Will IPhone be sync with MS Outlook?

[Kabeyun]

Originally Posted by aloshka

If you watch the keynote carefully he did say "the iphone will sync with your calendar and contacts on MAC AND Windows". Windows doesn't really have any other calendar programs that are worth mentioning other than outlook.

Email can be synced too, but only via IMAP (possibly iTunes too). IMAP will sync all your folders etc, but is not push in anyway. Although Yahoo! managed to make it push somehow (probably sends a text message when you have new email, forcing the phone to go pick it up. Much like the blackberries, OTA ActiveSync works behind the curtains).

A reasonable inference. Yahoo's service, like many, is not true push, but a timed server sniff, called "pull" for lack of a better term. I was under the impression that BB represented a true server-sided push service.

-K

[aloshka]

I believe Yahoo! has some special push imap for iPhone. If it was a timed poll like pop3 Steve Jobs wouldn't give it such high mention, and call it "PUSH IMAP" more than once and distinguishing it from the "IMAP" exchange which doesn't push.

Sending an SMS when an email arrives is really PUSH email. A device like the blackberry never polls anything. Instead when an email comes in, a server sends a specially encoded SMS to the device. When the device receives it, it goes out and grabs the message that's pending on the server.

[Kabeyun]

Originally Posted by aloshka

Sending an SMS when an email arrives is really PUSH email. A device like the blackberry never polls anything. Instead when an email comes in, a server sends a specially encoded SMS to the device. When the device receives it, it goes out and grabs the message that's pending on the server.

Isn't push e-mail where the mail server send the message to the mobile device upon receipt? In BB's case, if the BB Enterprise Server sends an SMS message (which is news to me, but OK) rather than the e-mail message itself, that then triggers a mail pull by the device, is that really push mail? I suppose all this is just semantics.

I did go back and read about Yahoo's "IMAP-Push" for iPhone. Potentially good stuff!

-K

[aloshka]

Originally Posted by Kabeyun

Isn't push e-mail where the mail server send the message to the mobile device upon receipt? In BB's case, if the BB Enterprise Server sends an SMS message (which is news to me, but OK) rather than the e-mail message itself, that then triggers a mail pull by the device, is that really push mail? I suppose all this is just semantics.

I did go back and read about Yahoo's "IMAP-Push" for iPhone. Potentially good stuff!

-K

I think it's all background work, and last I checked on how that work was a long time ago. I know WinMo works like that for sure. Next time you... send yourself a message and watch the active sync / ports that are open and responding. Quite interesting how the "push" technology works.

[joe]

I do think it is semantics. If an email hits the server and the iPhone is immediately notified, that's it. It just has to send the headers.

[ebrunn]

Originally Posted by Kabeyun

How do you figure? Please post refs; it'd be very helpful. Thx.

-K

I was just going out on a limb their. But like wot said, you can sync your contacts and calender from Outlook to iTunes right now, so I think that it should be able your email settings as well.

[mav]

If you watch the keynote, which everyone should BTW, Jobs does state that that Outlook will be synced to the iPhone on both Mac and PC. iTunes currently syncs Outlook contacts, calendars, tasks, etc to iPod so I don't see why it wouldn't sync it to iPhone.

[paulmassey]

Originally Posted by Kabeyun

iPhone will not sync with Outlook (ref).

-K

what a bummer

[Kabeyun]

Originally Posted by paulmassey

what a bummer

Don't be too bummed; wot_fat pointed out that Outlook data can sync via iTunes. If it's critical for you, I suggest waiting to see what experiences are reported after release. There's still hope!

-K

[idjmeka]

There most likely will be sync functions with ms tools because apple knows they'll make the big bang for there buck if they make it compatible and truely revolutionary, if you know what I mean? The iPhone isn't set to some specific age group its set to teens whom like their iPod and cell phone, business men/women, music obsessive people(me), & phone obsessive people (me).

There will be hope, if not built into it I'm sure someone here will make a widget or program to make it possible.