I don't want to say Asia, too big, or The Orient, too biased/prejudiced, or just Hong Kong as I am sure they are coming for several places. Anyway, sorry for the aside, it appears that a few vendors on e-bay have them now (so they claim) with the stubby going for as low as about $15 and the cable, albeit an even shorter one! going for as low as $14 shipped - the cable is about 6" give or take. Now, I plan to get a speck flip case - black, as soon as Amazon stops charging too much for it (versus the white/lt grey/dark grey one - that they sell for $17, the black should not cost an additional $6. No, as a matter of fact I am not a tightwad, but I am principled, and frankly I am a bit annoyed at apple decision to gouge consumers on these 'must have' items (unless of course the iphone 5 is your first one - then you don't need the adapters). Anyway, has anyone here actually obtained and used any of the secondary market, cloned(?), bootlegged(?), whatever, adapters? I have 2 stereos at home that the phones used to plug into, and a few other items as well. Again, apologies for the asides, thanks for your input. Cheers.