A.d.d.?

[KabaModern]

Originally Posted by computerfox

actually it's more than "just" a "scientific" term for "lazy" or "not caring". there were test where many students couldn't focus straight and had short tension spans because of the WAY the teacher taught the subject. if a teacher is just throwing out facts and not expecting any feedback from the students, that's a good indicator that many of the students have focus issues. it's one thing to not care, it's another thing to not be able to focus for a long time.

So, you basically just said that the reason kids cannot focus is because of the teachers teaching style? Then how in the world can you consider that a scientific issue (A.D.D) with the student? Different kids learn by different teaching styles. That doesn't mean they have A.D.D.

[juls1585]

Originally Posted by Alexander

Personally I don't think ADD is real. I think it's just called being lazy or not caring. By giving it a scientific name we're able to manufacture and sell magical pills that make people actually get their work done.

NOW that upset me...but just so you know what ADD is:

There are two major types of ADD at this time (this aspect of ADD keeps evolving): ADD with hyperactivity (the traditional type of ADD) and ADD without hyperactivity ("inattentive" type). Here are the DSM IV diagnostic criteria in a condensed form:


Inattention (must meet six of the following to a degree that is "maladaptive"):

• Often fails to give close attention to details or makes mistakes in schoolwork;
• difficulty sustaining attention in tasks;
• seems not to listen;
• fails to follow instructions or finish work;
• unorganized;
• difficulties with schoolwork or homework;
• loses things like school assignments, books, tools, etc.;
• easily distracted;
• forgetful about daily activities.

ADD with Hyperactivity (must meet six of the following to a degree that is "maladaptive"):

• fidgety in a squirmy sense;
• doesn't stay seated;
• runs or climbs excessively (or feelings of restlessness in older children);
• difficulty playing quietly;
• often "on the go" or acts if "driven by a motor";
• often talks excessively;
• blurts out answers to questions;
• difficulty waiting in lines or waiting turns;
• often interrupts or intrudes on others.

As I said before I stopped taking medicine at around age 10. I had to work TWICE as hard as anyone else I felt to do good in school and I did. I went to college on scholarships. I didnt have any magic pills to help me with that. Im proud of the fact I did it on my own, but some people cant do it without.

[computerfox]

ADD with Hyperactivity (must meet six of the following to a degree that is "maladaptive"):

• fidgety in a squirmy sense;
• doesn't stay seated;
• runs or climbs excessively (or feelings of restlessness in older children);
• difficulty playing quietly;
• often "on the go" or acts if "driven by a motor";
• often talks excessively;
• blurts out answers to questions;
• difficulty waiting in lines or waiting turns;
• often interrupts or intrudes on others.

Yup!!!! that's me

Originally Posted by KabaModern

So, you basically just said that the reason kids cannot focus is because of the teachers teaching style? Then how in the world can you consider that a scientific issue (A.D.D) with the student? Different kids learn by different teaching styles. That doesn't mean they have A.D.D.

i didn't mean that that's the only reason, but that COULD be ONE of MANY. others are born with it. my point was that it's not just bad up bull crap to excuse someone from how they act. i never said that. i only said that there is such a thing as ad[h]d and many times that's the reason why they act the way that they do.

[juls1585]

Originally Posted by computerfox

Yup!!!! that's me

you and my little brother. im the first one.

my little brother was pretty extreem. he ended up having to be home schooled. hes always been a problem child though. very smart, but all those issues really hindered him

[computerfox]

Originally Posted by juls1585

you and my little brother. im the first one.

my little brother was pretty extreem. he ended up having to be home schooled. hes always been a problem child though. very smart, but all those issues really hindered him

yeah. i know very well how that feels. i know i'm intelligent, but i have trouble focussing and i can't stop moving. also as everyone already is aware of i can't stop talking. if i have something on my mind i say it. but i love the way that i am and i don't take medication for many reasons. one of which is because i love the way i already am and if i start taking medication it would take away apart of me.

[Alexander]

Originally Posted by juls1585

NOW that upset me...but just so you know what ADD is:

There are two major types of ADD at this time (this aspect of ADD keeps evolving): ADD with hyperactivity (the traditional type of ADD) and ADD without hyperactivity ("inattentive" type). Here are the DSM IV diagnostic criteria in a condensed form:


Inattention (must meet six of the following to a degree that is "maladaptive"):

• Often fails to give close attention to details or makes mistakes in schoolwork;
• difficulty sustaining attention in tasks;
• seems not to listen;
• fails to follow instructions or finish work;
• unorganized;
• difficulties with schoolwork or homework;
• loses things like school assignments, books, tools, etc.;
• easily distracted;
• forgetful about daily activities.

ADD with Hyperactivity (must meet six of the following to a degree that is "maladaptive"):

• fidgety in a squirmy sense;
• doesn't stay seated;
• runs or climbs excessively (or feelings of restlessness in older children);
• difficulty playing quietly;
• often "on the go" or acts if "driven by a motor";
• often talks excessively;
• blurts out answers to questions;
• difficulty waiting in lines or waiting turns;
• often interrupts or intrudes on others.

As I said before I stopped taking medicine at around age 10. I had to work TWICE as hard as anyone else I felt to do good in school and I did. I went to college on scholarships. I didnt have any magic pills to help me with that. Im proud of the fact I did it on my own, but some people cant do it without.

I mean sorry if I upset you, but I do know what ADD is and personally just don't think a leigtimate "disease" is the root of the problem. I read the list of ADD side effects and I think of someone simply 'not caring' for every one of them.

Just for the record I was diagnosed with ADD in 6th grade and have taken medication for it the past 6 years. I was diagnosed and prescribed as legitimately as anyone else, so I think I have a right to an opinion about it.

Why do I take medication for a disorder I don't believe exists? Because it really helps me focus. While I don't believe ADD is real, I definitely believe that the little beads of dextroamphetamine sulfate inside those capsules are.

Am I saying those pills are for everyone? Definitely not. Do they help more than they harm? Most often probably not the case.

[computerfox]

some that take the pills actually get very angry. they get a personality change due to the pills.

so you think having difficulties with school work means that they don't care? hmmm... that's interesting...

yes you do have the right to an opinion, regardless if you had it or not, but i think your opinion sounds a little kalis.

[Napoleon_PhoneApart]

Originally Posted by computerfox

some that take the pills actually get very angry. they get a personality change due to the pills.

so you think having difficulties with school work means that they don't care? hmmm... that's interesting...

yes you do have the right to an opinion, regardless if you had it or not, but i think your opinion sounds a little kalis.

Did you mean "callous?"

Don't condemn him for his opinion. A lot of people feel the way he does.

[computerfox]

Originally Posted by Napoleon_PhoneApart

Did you mean "callous?"

Don't condemn him for his opinion. A lot of people feel the way he does.

yeah lol thank you naps i'm not good with spelling those larger words...

agreed! i just wanted to let him know how i felt about his statement. i didn't mean to sound like i was condemning him

[Londonrockz568]

I have a short attention span, Im always moving about, fidgeting etc... and I dont like to make eye contact with other people. Idk why, but i get really nervous when looking into other peoples eyes.