MMS on original - Page 2

Europa · 04-10-2009, 02:12 PM

AFAIK, it will not work on a 3G phone while that phone is running on Edge.

Feel free to complain to Apple (on the Apple Suggestion site) that MMS doesn't work on Edge (on a V1 or a V2 or a V3). Maybe in 2 years it will !

Yep, SwirrlyMMS will still be there, although it doesn't work for everyone.

shutter13 · 04-10-2009, 03:12 PM

Originally Posted by Ezekiel2517

even though i have a 3g anyways, this kinda pisses me off that they would do that. if it has anything to do with a 3g chip, does that mean you wont be able to send mms on a 3g while on edge?

i wonder if someone will come up with a jailbreak that will let you have mms on the v1? dont you think that would be possible?

First part...I turn 3G off and mms in 3.0 works fine for me. I do not believe they would be able to get away with 3G service only getting mms, to many areas do not have 3G service.

Second part, iRealSMS developer has already stated they were going to make iRealSMS compatable with 3.0 and would include the MMS hook, hopefully they will also make it compatable with the original iPhone. If not, people may find swirlymms starts working effortlessly once at&t flips the iPhone switch for mms.

firewire · 04-13-2009, 01:05 AM

According to shutter, MMS works fine on Edge. It makes absolutely no sense to limit even their latest product's capabilities (the 3G) to markets that support the latest network. There is no way MMS depends on there being 3G capability; if this turns out to be true then Apple has made one of the stupidest marketing decisions ever.

So, the two changes to hardware were 3G and GPS; if these two have no effect on MMS availability, then what else could possibly be limiting its usage to the 3G only?

styfle · 04-13-2009, 01:09 AM

Anyone else think its weird how there is an option to turn MMS on and off in the 3.0 beta? Its been in beta 1 and 2...

shutter13 · 04-13-2009, 12:25 PM

Originally Posted by firewire

So, the two changes to hardware were 3G and GPS; if these two have no effect on MMS availability, then what else could possibly be limiting its usage to the 3G only?

I assume that on the 3G you receive even an edge signal through the 3G chip, perhaps the software limitation is that it has to pass through said chip. I do not know the technical specs for these things, so maybe I'm wrong. I can say though, that so far mms is working fine on my iPhone 3G with no 3G signal and/or with 3G turned off.

Originally Posted by styfle

Anyone else think its weird how there is an option to turn MMS on and off in the 3.0 beta? Its been in beta 1 and 2...

I hadn't thought about it, but yes it is odd. Since MMS counts towards a message count and (if no message plan) data. There really is no reason to be able to turn it off or on, since we are required to have a data plan and we cannot turn sms on and off.

mittenman · 04-13-2009, 12:44 PM

Originally Posted by shutter13

I assume that on the 3G you receive even an edge signal through the 3G chip, perhaps the software limitation is that it has to pass through said chip. I do not know the technical specs for these things, so maybe I'm wrong. I can say though, that so far mms is working fine on my iPhone 3G with no 3G signal and/or with 3G turned off.

I hadn't thought about it, but yes it is odd. Since MMS counts towards a message count and (if no message plan) data. There really is no reason to be able to turn it off or on, since we are required to have a data plan and we cannot turn sms on and off.

This may be because ATT hasn't set up the MMS for iPhones yet. Possibly, when 3.0 official comes out and ATT is ready for MMS on iPhone, it will only work on 3G service. ??????

styfle · 04-13-2009, 12:47 PM

Originally Posted by styfle

Anyone else think its weird how there is an option to turn MMS on and off in the 3.0 beta? Its been in beta 1 and 2...

And to add to that this toggle exists on the v1 even though they claim it wont be available for the v1. (I thought this was implied since I posted in this thread)