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Old 07-06-2007, 03:53 PM   #11 (permalink)
 
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Then why did they pull the post if the source was so good?
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Old 07-06-2007, 04:06 PM   #12 (permalink)
 
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Then why did they pull the post if the source was so good?
Clearly the source wasn't that good after all. That's the kind of bad information a company like Apple definitely doesn't want out there.
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Old 07-06-2007, 04:09 PM   #13 (permalink)
 
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I personally believe there is no way there is 3G in this device, and they didn't report it to the FCC. Like jbaraga said, the government would be all over them. I just can't see Apple taking such a risky chance.
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Old 07-06-2007, 04:28 PM   #14 (permalink)
 
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Personaly I don't think there is 3g in iPhone. But there is no harm in wishing that this guy is right.
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I believe these are the actual FCC docs (found the link via an article about the FCC approval). I haven't read them and honestly I wouldn't know what most of it meant anyway, but if anyone here wants to kill some time...

http://gullfoss2.fcc.gov/oetcf/eas/r...%27BCGA1203%27

I guess my question would be if the FCC's approval would care if its Edge or 3g? Based on other stuff I read it was approved the tests said

"The Apple Inc. A1203 GSM Cellular Telephone with Bluetooth and Wifi, FCC ID: BCGA1203, is in compliance with the limits for general population uncontrolled exposure specified in FCC 2.1093. The device was tested according to the measurement standards and procedures specified in FCC OET Bulletin 65, Supplement C (Edition 01-01) and IEEE p1528/D1.2, April 21, 2003."

With all the people already taking the thing apart, you'd think it would have either been confirmed by now whether there is in fact a 3g chip in there. On another forum I frequent someone posted that their brother works @ MIT and a student there had disassembled one and said a chip is in there that can handle 3g, but this is info that's being relayed through a few people...

Personally I'd love to find out the phone does 3g, but I'm also not crossing my fingers. Either way I am happy with the phone, 3g or not. Edge does what I need, and the WIFI is awsome
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The iPhone doesn't have a 3g chip.
if you read the article gsm and edge combine to make 3g. I know it doesnt make sense.
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Old 07-06-2007, 04:47 PM   #17 (permalink)
 
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Actually, considering how much criticism Apple took for the phone not having 3G over the last 6 months, I would think they'd have reassured everyone that it will have it eventually if it was only a matter of activation. Just doesn't make sense to hide a huge selling point.
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Originally Posted by prolix21 View Post
With all the people already taking the thing apart, you'd think it would have either been confirmed by now whether there is in fact a 3g chip in there. On another forum I frequent someone posted that their brother works @ MIT and a student there had disassembled one and said a chip is in there that can handle 3g, but this is info that's being relayed through a few people...

They may have confused the SIM card with the chip set. It has been posted here that the SIM card says 3G on it, but this only means the SIM is 3G capable. Also, supposedly all AT&T phones come with a 3G SIM card. But this does not mean the phone is 3G capable. I have read read several interviews where Steve Jobs specifically stated there is no 3G chipset in the phone. It would definitely be a big screwup for him to say this if it was not true.
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Old 07-06-2007, 05:03 PM   #19 (permalink)
 
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I'm not buying it. Unless they covertly disguised the 3G chip as some other kind of chip (maybe tortilla?), then I can't imagine that as many people as there have been who've cracked open their iPhones wouldn't have said, "there's no 3G chip". Unless they are all foolish nerds who need a 3G logo smack dab on top of the chip to tell them it's 3G.

So that leads me to my next question....does anyone here know what a 3G chip that would work for an iPhone actually look like? All the ones I've seen just look like regular old chips that have random letters and numbers on 'em. How the heck do you tell the difference? (Sorry, I'm just a paramedic)
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Old 07-06-2007, 05:25 PM   #20 (permalink)
 
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As much as I would love this too be true, I doubt current iPhones are 3G enabled. Jobs already stated that they didnt use 3g because of the power consumption as the main issue but also because of the lack of chips available. Besides that, if you look at any of the various iphone disassembly photos ou can see that there is no 3g chipse, unless it is disguissed in some way.
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