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Old 07-03-2009, 03:51 PM   #11 (permalink)
 
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yeah, you dont need a whole update for MMS. on 3.0, with the 5.0 Ipcc file, MMS works. all that is necessary is that carrier update. from what i have heard from the beta'ers is that it is just some bug fixes....no mms
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Originally Posted by dirt_mover3g View Post
I figured it was just going to be a carrier update too, but it makes sense that apple might have to do something on their end to provide the icons in the messages app for mms. But I could be wrong.
I think there were enough features and bugs for apple to have 3.1 ready for later this summer so they just threw the carrier update in with it. I was told by an at&t rep that apple included everything to make mms work so that it was all up to at&t. They just hid the buttons in 3.0 for at&t customers for reasons like a few people said, if they were there iphone 3G and 3GS users would be calling at&t and coming around here asking why their mms isn't working. We even have people come around now and then asking why the camera icon isn't there. Depending on the bugs in 3.1 (I don't see many) I think it will definitely be in mid to late july. This isn't like going from 2.2.1 to 3.0 where there were lots of bugs.
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Originally Posted by mitchellm4 View Post
yeah, you dont need a whole update for MMS. on 3.0, with the 5.0 Ipcc file, MMS works. all that is necessary is that carrier update. from what i have heard from the beta'ers is that it is just some bug fixes....no mms
In 3.1 beta the carrier file is 4.2 up from 4.0 that was in 3.0's final release. And the icons and options are there in 3.1 beta 1. It has always been up to the carriers to get it working since apple included all the provisioning and settings on the phone's end to have it working.
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I had MMS on my 3G with the 5.0 carrier file, but I added the 5.0 carrier file to the 3GS and I get all the options and icons for MMS, but it doesn't work.
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^ yeah that makes sense. there were few sadder days then when i finally got MMS working about a month ago and after a day, my phone bricked and it brought me back to 4.0
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I had MMS on my 3G with the 5.0 carrier file, but I added the 5.0 carrier file to the 3GS and I get all the options and icons for MMS, but it doesn't work.
Yeah the rep I talked to said that with the 3GS it is a lot harder to get working since they were all correctly provisioned when they were activated and they will not provision us like they did back in the 3.0 beta days cause it would mess up the correct provisioning. They could flip the switch for the 3GS users but want everyone to be able to use it at once, which is very stupid of them. I think the 3GS should have had the icons and been able to use it since release so that every 3G and 3GS aren't sending mms's at once.The carrier file doesn't do anything on at&t's end all it does is let the icon show up on 3.0 because on the betas I was able to send on the stock carrier file.
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Im on the 3GS and i have the family texting plan, currently running beta 3.1 and I can send MMS
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I still believe it'll be a carrier update.
It would be so stupid to make you upgrade your WHOLE firmware, and if you do that would suck.
The camera icon is there, its' just hidden, and i think a carrier update would unhide it
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I still believe it'll be a carrier update.
It would be so stupid to make you upgrade your WHOLE firmware, and if you do that would suck.
The camera icon is there, its' just hidden, and i think a carrier update would unhide it
The firmware upgrade is from apple but they are including the carrier update in it. If at&t was ready tomorrow for mms then the 4.2 carrier update would be release through iTunes, but they won't be and since at&t is expecting to be ready for later this summer and apple is preparing an update of their own for new features and bugs then they will be releasing both at the same time when at&t is ready. Apple probably knows when they want the update to be released and at&t knows when mms should be ready so they will probably release it in one update rather than a carrier followed by a software or vice versa. Apple will want it to be all in one and easy and not require you to be connecting to itunes for an update a few days after the other update. Apple or at&t can wait on the other if necessary.
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