Enterprise Data Plan($45) vs. Personal Data ($30) question - Page 8

endy · 07-25-2008, 12:20 PM

Originally Posted by Marciexyz

Exchange sync uses different protocols - been a while, can't recall which (RPC over HTTPS maybe, plus some used in maintaining heartbeat with the Exchange server). AT&T can see the different traffic types and slap data overage charges on for traffic that is not within the accepted data types."

You are correct Exchange does use RPC (remote procedure calls) over HTTPS, if it is configured on exchange server/IIS side (microsoft webserver). ATT has no control over this, it is a standard feature of current Exchange release. It is the same setup that is used for Palm phones etc. It does use a heartbeat and some can say it is truely not pure push technology. That heartbeat is what eats the battery life on all phones that are set for mail to be delivered when it arrives at exchange.

Because it is using HTTPs, and therefor encrypted, there is no way for AT&T to determine what is being sent to and from exchange. All they can see is HTTPs traffic to a webserver.

Now on the iphone side, if they wanted, and looks like they are not doing it. Also its smacks of big brother so doubtful they would even try. They could technically track it based on the webmail app, since you must configure it as an exchange account and somehow report back to AT&T when it is being used. This would still not be definitive proof of business use since there are personal exchange servers.

Forgot to add, yes they could disable firmware support for exchange based on activation codes etc. But I would bet that would be cracked sooner then someone unlocking or jailbraking a new iphone firmware release

flabyboy · 07-25-2008, 01:00 PM

Originally Posted by dimensiondvdrob

I am using push. My phone is set to push and I get my mail pushed to me. I am sure ATT only sells the enterprise data plan to people that have accounts that are in a business name.

I actually have a FAN account thru my work, but signed up for the $30 plan because I thought our IT department would not support the iphone. They decided to support it and I connected to the exchange server. I get push email, calender, contacts, ect.. No extra money yet. I keep checking my account to make sure it doesn't jump to enterprise.

dimensiondvdrob · 07-26-2008, 12:46 PM

Originally Posted by Ramesh

Thanks wh0re.

Well... You know me.

SriramSrinivasan · 08-18-2008, 10:14 AM

Guys,

Can you please post about your bill information whether AT & T charged you for using MS exchange?

Curious to know

Thanks

dimensiondvdrob · 08-18-2008, 10:26 AM

Originally Posted by SriramSrinivasan

Guys,

Can you please post about your bill information whether AT & T charged you for using MS exchange?

Curious to know

Thanks

No, I did not get charged the $45 plan. I paid the $30 plan and I use exchange.

iLobster · 08-18-2008, 10:57 AM

Psh. You guys think $45 is expensive? In Japan we only have one choice. $70 a month for data and a calling plan that includes ZERO free talk minutes. That's right, if you like talking, it gets really expensive really fast.

But this is actually an improvement that Steve Jobs basically forced down Softbank's throats. My old data/talk plan was $110 a month, and again, no free talk minutes!

VTDr0p0ut · 08-18-2008, 11:14 AM

I'll double-confirm: Microsoft Exchange working on standard data plan.

chrismmm · 08-18-2008, 11:21 AM

how does it compare to any other offers?

dimensiondvdrob · 08-18-2008, 12:13 PM

Originally Posted by iLobster

Psh. You guys think $45 is expensive? In Japan we only have one choice. $70 a month for data and a calling plan that includes ZERO free talk minutes. That's right, if you like talking, it gets really expensive really fast.

But this is actually an improvement that Steve Jobs basically forced down Softbank's throats. My old data/talk plan was $110 a month, and again, no free talk minutes!

Nope. No complaints here from me. I am paying $30 per month and happy to do so. This is just the cost of doing business. I want the data plan and stuff, so I have to pay for it and I am OK with that. I may be in the minority, but complaining will not change anything.

dimensiondvdrob · 08-18-2008, 12:16 PM

Originally Posted by VTDr0p0ut

I'll double-confirm: Microsoft Exchange working on standard data plan.

I'll re-iterate for people that did not understand:

$30 is the data rate you'll pay if you are on a personal account. If you are on a business account, AT&T will most likely put you on the $45 data plan for businesses, or if you buy into the fact that you cannot use Exchange on the personal $30 plan. You can use Exchange or anything else you wanna use on the personal $30 plan without paying the higher rate.