Enterprise Data Plan($45) vs. Personal Data ($30) question

[Marciexyz]

Originally Posted by NikonNurse

connected push via exchange at work...pay 30 dolla, no more money that make me holla.
sorry couldn't resist.

U Rock! That pretty much tells it!

[Marciexyz]

Originally Posted by patrickj

Absolutely true that getting Exchange sync working is down to you / your phone's capability / your company's Exchange setup - not something AT&T prevents.

But ... just my recollection here, but I thought the place where AT&T does come into it is that their data rates (in the fine print) cover certain specific sorts of acceptable traffic - web browsing, consumer type email for example (POP< IMAP etc).

Exchange sync uses different protocols - been a while, can't recall which (RPC over HTTPS maybe, plus some used in maintaining heartbeat with the Exchange server). AT&T can see the different traffic types and slap data overage charges on for traffic that is not within the accepted data types.

I thought that's where the whole 'enterprise plan' element of things came into the equation. Not sure how often they really analyze the traffic, really charge the overage rate - but thought this was a reason that corporates cough up - for the ease of knowing those traffic types are included ...

Seems like several people now have said that they can get "push" to work via the enterprise server using the $30 data plan. Knowing how skilled telecoms are at getting our $$, this theory about traffic types sounds believable...does anyone know this for sure?

What about battery use; does "push" use more or less battery? I have heard that the server "pings" your phone when there is a change as opposed to an continuous checking that would suck up battery. If push pings, then push would typically use less battery.

[dimensiondvdrob]

Originally Posted by Marciexyz

That's cool. Do you know how your phone is getting the exchange server mail? Is it a push or does the phone periodically check for mail and download it to the phone? This is what I have heard is the difference between the personal data vs enterprise data. I don't know how the phone knows the difference unless it is a software thing at ATT.

I am using push. My phone is set to push and I get my mail pushed to me. I am sure ATT only sells the enterprise data plan to people that have accounts that are in a business name.

[Marciexyz]

Originally Posted by dimensiondvdrob

Actually, I am connected to my exchange server and get all my emails and I have the $30 individual plan for the iphone 3G. No enterprise plan needed.

Thanks for setting things straight. So, you have not encountered the data charges patrickj mentioned in the earlier post?

"But ... just my recollection here, but I thought the place where AT&T does come into it is that their data rates (in the fine print) cover certain specific sorts of acceptable traffic - web browsing, consumer type email for example (POP< IMAP etc).

Exchange sync uses different protocols - been a while, can't recall which (RPC over HTTPS maybe, plus some used in maintaining heartbeat with the Exchange server). AT&T can see the different traffic types and slap data overage charges on for traffic that is not within the accepted data types."

[Ramesh]

Originally Posted by Marciexyz

Thanks for setting things straight. So, you have not encountered the data charges patrickj mentioned in the earlier post?

"But ... just my recollection here, but I thought the place where AT&T does come into it is that their data rates (in the fine print) cover certain specific sorts of acceptable traffic - web browsing, consumer type email for example (POP< IMAP etc).

Exchange sync uses different protocols - been a while, can't recall which (RPC over HTTPS maybe, plus some used in maintaining heartbeat with the Exchange server). AT&T can see the different traffic types and slap data overage charges on for traffic that is not within the accepted data types."

Haven't gotten the first bill yet...

[dimensiondvdrob]

Originally Posted by Ramesh

Haven't gotten the first bill yet...

Me either.

[Marciexyz]

Originally Posted by Ramesh

Haven't gotten the first bill yet...

Hey Ramesh and Dimensiondverob, let us know how it worked when you get your first bill. We'll be waiting.

So, what is the thing with "thanks" and "thanked"?

Thanks

[dimensiondvdrob]

Originally Posted by Marciexyz

Hey Ramesh and Dimensiondverob, let us know how it worked when you get your first bill. We'll be waiting.

So, what is the thing with "thanks" and "thanked"?

Thanks

I'll let you know. I think the thanks thing is when you read a post you liked and was helpful to you, you click the thanks button and gives thanks to the poster.

[Ramesh]

Originally Posted by dimensiondvdrob

I'll let you know. I think the thanks thing is when you read a post you liked and was helpful to you, you click the thanks button and gives thanks to the poster.

Thanks wh0re.

[jbaraga]

Originally Posted by dimensiondvdrob

I am using push. My phone is set to push and I get my mail pushed to me. I am sure ATT only sells the enterprise data plan to people that have accounts that are in a business name.

I can't believe it took this long for someone to point this out.

AT&T isn't restricting access to a feature of the firmware based on what data plan someone is paying for. If someone has a personal account and pays their own bill, then their choice to check their work/Exchange e-mail is theirs. If someone has a business account, the assumption could be made that they will definitely be using the device for checking their work/Exchange e-mail.

It would be illogical to think that AT&T could get away with charging for business service to individuals with a personal accounts. My company has a contract with Verizon, but also give the option of keeping your own phone and cell phone plan and being reimbursed for your phone bill instead of getting a phone through the company.