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Old 09-25-2007, 02:34 PM   #1 (permalink)
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After Apple's warning? It's scaring me into mod retirement.
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where did you see this article, and is the famous installer.app a mod?
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"Apple has discovered that many of the unauthorized iPhone unlocking programs available on the Internet cause irreparable damage to the iPhone's software, which will likely result in the modified iPhone becoming permanently inoperable when a future Apple-supplied iPhone software update is installed,"

Translation: Apple's restore code won't overwrite and/or work with the unlock code, so here's a friendly warning to be sure to restore first before getting this update.

It's a cleverly disguised way of helping modders out.

"This has nothing to do with proactively disabling a phone that is unlocked or hacked"

Translation: Since unlocking a phone is legal, we're saying our changes are not deliberate.

Now, if hackers can prove that the software changes were unnecessary, except to relock the phone, Apple could find itself on the wrong end of a lawsuit. Which, come to think of it, they might not want to win. Oh gosh, judge, our phones have to stay unlocked?

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where did you see this article, and is the famous installer.app a mod?
of course its a mod, and the article is on the home page of this website
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"Apple has discovered that many of the unauthorized iPhone unlocking programs available on the Internet cause irreparable damage to the iPhone's software, which will likely result in the modified iPhone becoming permanently inoperable when a future Apple-supplied iPhone software update is installed,"

Translation: Apple's restore code won't overwrite and/or work with the unlock code, so here's a friendly warning to be sure to restore first before getting this update.

It's a cleverly disguised way of helping modders out. Fools no one but idiot reporters.

"This has nothing to do with proactively disabling a phone that is unlocked or hacked"

Translation: Since unlocking a phone is legal, we're saying our changes are not deliberate.

Now, if hackers can prove that the software changes were unnecessary, except to relock the phone, Apple could find itself on the wrong end of a lawsuit. Which, come to think of it, they might not want to win. Oh gosh, judge, our phones have to stay unlocked?
thanks for the info...
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If you read the article carefully you will notice that what they are really talking about is unlocking the phone for use with other carriers. Apple has previously expressed a neutral stance towards third party apps.

I believe that there is no chance that Apple would attempt to render iPhones with third party apps unuseable. I do however believe that Apple is contractually obligated to do everything within their power to prevent unlocking.

Also, contrary to popular belief, I believe that just because it is legal for US phone owners to unlock their phones it does not dictate that it is illegal for Apple to try to prevent unlocking. These are two very different things, and the line between them seams to have been blurred by many.
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So does this mean using the iBrckr and adding things like the NES emulator and such are likely to not be included under the Apple update hammer?
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"Apple has discovered that many of the unauthorized iPhone unlocking programs available on the Internet cause irreparable damage to the iPhone's software, which will likely result in the modified iPhone becoming permanently inoperable when a future Apple-supplied iPhone software update is installed,"

Translation: Apple's restore code won't overwrite and/or work with the unlock code, so here's a friendly warning to be sure to restore first before getting this update.
Not exactly. The warning is primarily about the SIM unlock solutions, which modify the baseband and stay in place after a restore. There is a method to return the baseband to OEM condition, but an iTunes restore is not it.



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When the update comes out, all you have to do is restore the phone before you update, then you will be updating a "stock" iphone. Their claims hold no water...
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Here's the actual Apple text, btw:

"Apple has discovered that many of the unauthorized iPhone unlocking programs available on the Internet cause irreparable damage to the iPhone's software, which will likely result in the modified iPhone becoming permanently inoperable when a future Apple-supplied iPhone software update is installed.

"Apple plans to release the next iPhone software update, containing many new features including the iTunes Wi-Fi Music Store (www.itunes.com), later this week.

"Apple strongly discourages users from installing unauthorized unlocking programs on their iPhones. Users who make unauthorized modifications to the software on their iPhone violate their iPhone software license agreement and void their warranty. The permanent inability to use an iPhone due to installing unlocking software is not covered under the iPhone's warranty."
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