Nokia suing Apple? WOW!

[JWiPhone]

What I don't understand is why did Nokia decide to sue Apple now? Why didn't they take this action when Apple released the gen 1 iPhone?

[glsda]

so your saying that apple shouldnt pay fees ? rules dont apply to apple ?, if apple didnt pay fees, they should go unpunished ?, please give me a break..

Lighten up reggaeton, You inferred from my post what I didn't imply, "so your saying that apple shouldnt pay fees ? rules dont apply to apple ?, if apple didnt pay fees, they should go unpunished ?" You said it, not I nor did I imply it. Maybe your a Vulcan doing a mind meld and your antenna shorted out or you're hitting the battery acid a little early this evening. lol

[mr.reggaeton72]

Lighten up reggaeton, You inferred from my post what I didn't imply, "so your saying that apple shouldnt pay fees ? rules dont apply to apple ?, if apple didnt pay fees, they should go unpunished ?" You said it, not I nor did I imply it. Maybe your a Vulcan doing a mind meld and your antenna shorted out or you're hitting the battery acid a little early this evening. lol

i didnt understand anything you just said, but ok, the good thing is that you and me are on then same page...everybody who avoid the rules should be punished..

[kdarling]

What I don't understand is why did Nokia decide to sue Apple now? Why didn't they take this action when Apple released the gen 1 iPhone?

Well, it could take a while to figure out if there's an infringement. And then the news said that they'd been in negotiations for a year or so.

Apple already pays other companies for IP usage. In this GSM case, companies often share IP as part payment. Perhaps that's a sticking point.

At least Nokia isn't making Apple stop sales until the issue is decided, like Qualcomm had to do a couple of years ago in a similar kind of case.

[Londonrockz568]

What I don't understand is why did Nokia decide to sue Apple now? Why didn't they take this action when Apple released the gen 1 iPhone?

Nokia waiting for Apple to sell as many phones as possible.

I read somewhere that They are suing for every iphone sold that infringes on the patents.

[Londonrockz568]

i didnt understand anything you just said, but ok, the good thing is that you and me are on then same page...everybody who avoid the rules should be punished..

Rules are a form a control, by someone who wants to control many to his form and likeness of self control.

[acosmichippo]

Still, with IP there is an implied statute of limitations. As if to say "if you REALLY cared, you'd have said something from the start."

of course, I still have to read the link, so it may just be a recent addition to the iPhone GUI.

[acosmichippo]

Just read the article. It is very vague, and does not list any specifics, so there's no use speculating.

[kdarling]

Nokia waiting for Apple to sell as many phones as possible.

Time doesn't matter. It's basic math... a fee per device. Whether they start receiving license fees early or later on, it's the same amount in the end.

Still, with IP there is an implied statute of limitations. As if to say "if you REALLY cared, you'd have said something from the start."

Again, they have to first figure it out, then document it, then negotiate. In real life, that can take years. In this case, it sounds like they've been negotiating with Apple for at least a year.

Just read the article. It is very vague, and does not list any specifics, so there's no use speculating.

We know it's about GSM and WLANs, not UIs, and that the patents "cover wireless data, speech coding, security and encryption." Sounds like basic cellular phone programming.

If all other companies pay Nokia, that's a huge precedent. Just as with everyone ending up paying that patent holding company for Visual Voicemail. Once any large company pays, the rest must fall in line.

[Londonrockz568]

Time doesn't matter. It's basic math... a fee per device. Whether they start receiving license fees early or later on, it's the same amount in the end.



Again, they have to first figure it out, then document it, then negotiate. In real life, that can take years. In this case, it sounds like they've been negotiating with Apple for at least a year.



We know it's about GSM and WLANs, not UIs, and that the patents "cover wireless data, speech coding, security and encryption." Sounds like basic cellular phone programming.

If all other companies pay Nokia, that's a huge precedent. Just as with everyone ending up paying that patent holding company for Visual Voicemail. Once any large company pays, the rest must fall in line.

Time does matter wtf?? lol

If Apple only sold 500 iphones then the case would be miniscule.
Nokia waited for them to sell a HUGE number of units....they were patient waiting up to Generation 3 before making a move.