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Old 06-30-2008, 02:14 PM   #11 (permalink)
 
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I disagree entirely. I think the iPhone reviews overhyped the "fantastic and innovative" phone features of the iPhone. It is, hands down, the worst phone I've ever used.

Is it pretty? Yup
Is it gimmicky? You betcha...the little spinning graphic when you switch between the keypad and the phone features looks like something the geniuses at the Pontiac division of GM cooked up. All flash, no value.

But as a pure phone, there are far too many features missing from the device.

Things I miss when using my iPhone that I have become accustomed to on Bberries, HTC's, etc:

1) Easily recall a recently dialed/received number while on a call. With iPhone all you can do is look at your stored contacts while on a call.
2) Easily store a number someone gives you on a phone call, either as a new contact or in a scratchpad function....and I'm not even going to whine about lack of cut-and-paste here either.
3) The speed of just making a simple phone call is slower on the iPhone, requiring more button presses than on a "complicated" Bberry or many other PDA/Phone combo's. Example from a similar locked state on both the iPhone and my Pearl assuming both are returned from standby mode to main menu:

iPhone: 1: Slide, 2: enter passcode, 3: Touch phone icon, 4: Touch Keypad icon, 5: Dial number and hit Call (4 and 5 could also be hit Contacts then select contact and number but that's more steps). Minimum 5 steps to placing a call.

Bberry: 1: Enter passcode, 2: Dial number (smart enough to know you are dialing a phone number), 3: Hit Send key. 3 steps. Can also dial by contact in fewer than 5 steps.

Quite frankly, this was Apple's first attempt at creating a phone interface and their Computer-only experience shows. They made the iPhone resemble the UI more of a Skype or VOIP-based phone metaphor rather than really attempting to create a killer phone UI.

So as a pure phone that I use everyday (logged 2800 minutes last month on my iPhone) I find so many things missing, some big and some small. Then again, I'm not a phone neophyte. If this was my first phone or I just simply was a simpleton, maybe I'd not miss these features and think the phone really was "revolutionary." But at least in the VOICE feature department, the thing is at least 2-3 years behind the leading edge for features.
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So your saying the iPhone is. . .
Design over functionality?
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So your saying the iPhone is. . .
Design over functionality?
I'm saying it's a 1st generation effort from an inexperienced phone design team who couldn't quite figure out the basics because they did little to no competitive research. But that's pretty much the standard for Apple. They proclaim something "innovative" without ever really considering "productive innovation."
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I'm saying it's a 1st generation effort from an inexperienced phone design team who couldn't quite figure out the basics because they did little to no competitive research. But that's pretty much the standard for Apple. They proclaim something "innovative" without ever really considering "productive innovation."
Man, but are YOU in the minority!
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Man, but are YOU in the minority!
I am afraid he is..
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Man, but are YOU in the minority!
Look at the example I posted earlier. It's just one real world sample of where the iPhone's UI, while "purdy" is less efficient than just about any other phone on the market.

I don't mind being in the minority when I'm right.

Disclaimer: I'm an Apple fanboi. The only Windows installs left in my household or workplace are Boot Camp. I am an iPhone developer. I work closely with Apple on a number of projects. I am also an Apple consumer and frankly, experiencing their myopia from both sides of the table, I can tell you emphatically that by about the third release they finally relent and give in to the unwashed masses that usability and productivity need NOT be mutually exclusive components of a UI. OSX is a great example of this.

But if you personally believe that the v1 iPhone UI for the phone features is the best-in-class in the marketplace, then you either aren't very demanding of your CE gear or just went with the whole swamp-gas theory of "if Apple says so, it must be true."
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Look at the example I posted earlier. It's just one real world sample of where the iPhone's UI, while "purdy" is less efficient than just about any other phone on the market.

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You're so wrong. WTF do you get your info? Is that why there are so many BB-killers, and so many iPhone-wannabes now? Because the iPhone sucks? Your opinion, while respected, is just an opinion and nothing more. Look up the stats. Either way, we all have our opinion, and I respect yours. But most of us will heartily disagree with you.

and BTW, if Apple says so, it must be true!
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Wow Hondamaker!
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iphone is actually the only phone ever I can carry for more than 2MONTHS.... I can't get bored of my iphone....
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Hay RunamuckiPhone...what are you even here for....
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