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Old 05-27-2009, 05:00 PM   #11 (permalink)
 
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Originally Posted by styfle View Post
I hated the storm. The click touch screen was horrible. After trying to use it for 5 minutes I gave up.
I liked the click at first, but I got tired of it very fast. Glad to see that RIM has abandoned that method in the Storm 2.
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Old 05-27-2009, 06:50 PM   #12 (permalink)
 
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"Manhandle" is unlikely.

Competition is very likely between the two, and I'd say that's a good thing. At least there will be something rivaling the iPhone, pushing Apple to go bigger and better. I still don't like the way the Pre looks as much as the iPhone, but I agree that the interface looks nice.

So the answer to your question is no, probably not.
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You know the one thing that may keep me from getting the Pre is the physical keyboard. I come from a long line of blackberries and what kept me from getting the iphone was the virtual keyboard. I finally just said what the hell and now I am so proficient on the keyboard I would never go back to a hard keyboard. The other thing that would drive me crazy is that while surfing the web if there is something i need to type on the Pre you have to leave landscape mode and then open the keyboard. I have a feeling that would get old quickly.

Also, I had the blackberry Storm for one day before I returned it and bought the iphone. The storm sucked even after I tried installing the various "unofficial" operating systems that were supposed to cure many of the problems.
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Originally Posted by aggieman View Post
I liked the click at first, but I got tired of it very fast. Glad to see that RIM has abandoned that method in the Storm 2.
I didn't know they were getting rid of it. I wonder if it wasn't liked that much that they are removing that feature. I mean that was their biggest selling point about the phone and they are getting rid of it?? Sounds like it wasn't as big as they had hoped.
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You know the one thing that may keep me from getting the Pre is the physical keyboard. I come from a long line of blackberries and what kept me from getting the iphone was the virtual keyboard. I finally just said what the hell and now I am so proficient on the keyboard I would never go back to a hard keyboard. The other thing that would drive me crazy is that while surfing the web if there is something i need to type on the Pre you have to leave landscape mode and then open the keyboard. I have a feeling that would get old quickly.

Also, I had the blackberry Storm for one day before I returned it and bought the iphone. The storm sucked even after I tried installing the various "unofficial" operating systems that were supposed to cure many of the problems.
I never hesitated when I picked up my iphone, I always liked the idea of virtual typing. Seriously as soon as I picked up that phone and was typing faster and better on it than any other phone I had owned. But I have seen people struggle with the typing so it just depends. I will never and can't use physical keyboards anymore, they just irritate me . That is the downside with the G1 and the Pre having real keyboards, you can only type on them in one postition, the Pre portrait and the G1 landscape.
I think apple and palm will have some serious competition ahead of them, but really it will only benefit us in the end with better, cheaper, and more loaded phones.
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Old 05-27-2009, 10:19 PM   #15 (permalink)
 
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I didn't know they were getting rid of it. I wonder if it wasn't liked that much that they are removing that feature. I mean that was their biggest selling point about the phone and they are getting rid of it?? Sounds like it wasn't as big as they had hoped.
yeah every Storm 2 rumor/leaked photo i've seen points to them abandoning it. I guess can see the writing on the wall when it comes to the Storm. it started with good potential but poor implementation all the way around.
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With the App Store and growing popularity of the iPhone daily, I really don't see the Pre manhandling the iPhone at all.
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BGR has dissed the Pre's keyboard now..
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I look at the Pre articles and buzz about it and wonder if the media is just doing another repeat of touting yet another device as the iPhone killer yet again.

Everyone will say its the iphone killer just like they all did with the blackberry Storm, the Samsung instinct and various other iPhone "rival" phones. But once the new toy hype died down, many started waiting for the next killer. I dont see it as great competition i see it as a last ditch effort for Sprint to do something major so that the company along with a few mobile phone makers (palm esp) dont fall into obscurity.

Apple did what they do best which is form and factor in a cutting edge package. Blending a Phone, with an iPod and adding alot of expandability and Games (PSP) instead of having all these devices in your pockets. Before the iphone, many people had their cell phone in one pocket, their iPod in another and their PSP (if young) on occasion. What im getting at is Apple beat ALL these very very long standing mobile phone makers at their own game, and pretty much changed the rules of how to play to stay in for good.

Sorry for my lame metaphor but Apple has pretty much forced every smartphone maker to either match or attempt to raise the chips or fold out.

The phone looks great, and the specs are strong, but i dont see it manhandling the iPhone anytime soon.

I have a friend who is getting the Pre, he's upgrading from his instinct lets see if he will like the pre or come on over to the iphone. He does have an iTouch 2gen so if he likes that then the iphone isnt much different.
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Reasons I'm staying with the next generation iPhone and not Pre

I have been reading reviews and comparisons of the Pre vs iPhone.

The Pre will be released very soon on June 6th and there will be a lot of fanfare made over it. However, I do see a number of shortcomings with the Pre compared to the iPhone. Many of the comparisons made have been with the current iPhone 3G, but I choose to compare the next generation iPhone with its well-expected rumors.

I do admit these positives with the Pre:

  • the ergonomics and feel of the Pre in the hand
  • the user interface and capacitive touch and gestures
  • multitasking ability
  • responsivness of web browsing
  • removeable battery
  • used with several carriers (Sprint/Verizon)


Now for the negatives and these are the deal breaker for me:

  • physical keyboard which is small and makes typing very difficult (accidently hitting wrong keys, just reported on BoyGenius)
  • smaller screen, 3.1 vs iPhone 3.5, not good for viewing movies, gaming
  • 8GB compared to iPhone's 16 and 32GB
  • sparse software development and apps, Apple is well ahead in this area
  • no video recording, next gen iPhone will likely have this
  • camera is 3.0 compared to iPhone's rumored but likely 3.2
  • aesthetically not as beautiful as the iPhone, too plastic looking
  • Palm not as strong a company as Apple, and low on cash
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Originally Posted by Londonrockz568 View Post
I look at the Pre articles and buzz about it and wonder if the media is just doing another repeat of touting yet another device as the iPhone killer yet again.

Everyone will say its the iphone killer just like they all did with the blackberry Storm, the Samsung instinct and various other iPhone "rival" phones. But once the new toy hype died down, many started waiting for the next killer. I dont see it as great competition i see it as a last ditch effort for Sprint to do something major so that the company along with a few mobile phone makers (palm esp) dont fall into obscurity.

Apple did what they do best which is form and factor in a cutting edge package. Blending a Phone, with an iPod and adding alot of expandability and Games (PSP) instead of having all these devices in your pockets. Before the iphone, many people had their cell phone in one pocket, their iPod in another and their PSP (if young) on occasion. What im getting at is Apple beat ALL these very very long standing mobile phone makers at their own game, and pretty much changed the rules of how to play to stay in for good.

Sorry for my lame metaphor but Apple has pretty much forced every smartphone maker to either match or attempt to raise the chips or fold out.

The phone looks great, and the specs are strong, but i dont see it manhandling the iPhone anytime soon.

I have a friend who is getting the Pre, he's upgrading from his instinct lets see if he will like the pre or come on over to the iphone. He does have an iTouch 2gen so if he likes that then the iphone isnt much different.
Good post, London. +1
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