This Is So Sad

[ZR_Yancy]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mScGC7nFDxM

[TarekElsakka]

What??????? I just read the video's title and I am shocked. I can't wait for the download to finish so I can actually watch this. I am in shock, I swear.

EDIT: Oh my God, I can not believe this. I really feel bad for her and I am also really scared. Damn, I hope she'll recover from that soon. I've never heard of that disease before and this is really really shocking. God, the girl is so beautiful but her case is weird. :'(

[Londonrockz568]

Omg... that is heart breaking.

[Londonrockz568]

I got this in an email its about the H1N1 vaccine thats being handed out like skittles to the masses.

DR. RUSSELL BLAYLOCK ON SWINE FLU

This is an email sent to a friend of Dr. Blaylock and is now being forwarded to anyone interested. Please pass it along. Also note the attached biography of Dr. Blaylock. Dr. Blaylock is a board certified neurosurgeon, author and lecturer. He attended the LSU
School of Medicine in New Orleans and completed his general surgical internship and neurosurgical residency at the Medical University of South Carolina in Charleston , SC.


No one should take this vaccine (Swine Flu vaccine)—it is one of the most dangerous vaccines ever devised. It contains an immune adjuvant called squalene (MF-59) which has been shown to cause severe autoimmune disorders such as MS, rheumatoid arthritis and Lupus.

The newsletter for August covers this and it may not be out yet. This is the vaccine adjuvant that is strongly linked to the Gulf War syndrome, which killed over 10,000 soldiers and caused a 200% increase in the fatal disease ALS (Lou Gehreg disease). This virus H1N1 kills by causing a “cytokine storm”, which means that it cause the body’s immune system to overreact and that is why it is killing young people and is a mild disease in the elderly. (The elderly have weakened immune systems.) This vaccine is a very powerful immune stimulator and carries the real possibility of making the lethality of the virus much greater.

One’s best protection is vitamin D3.. One should take 5000 IU a day now and when the
disease begins to spread increase the dose to 15,000 IU a day. Vitamin D3
modulates the immune reaction, reducing the chance of an overreaction and stimulates the body to produce what are called antimicrobial peptides, which are powerful killers of viruses that does not involve immunity. This is dose related, which means the higher the dose of vitamin D3 the better the protection. Fish oils (the best is Carlson’s Norwegian lemon flavored fish oil) also reduce immune overreaction. One teaspoon a day should be
sufficient.

For severe symptoms, one teaspoon twice a day. Antioxidants of various kins also help—this includes, quercetin, curcumin, grapeseed extract, vitamin C and natural vitamin E. A good multivitamin/mineral such as Extend Core (www.vrp.com) is also essential.

[TarekElsakka]

I knew that vaccine was lethal. I mean no one creates such a vaccine in NO time if you know what I mean. I think this is the fastest vaccine ever created for a disease like that.

[Napoleon_PhoneApart]

That is really tragic for that young lady. I had heard something in passing on the news last week about a reaction an ex-Redskins cheerleader had had to the shot, but I had no idea how much damage it had done. It surely makes one think twice about getting a flu shot.

[TarekElsakka]

Don't get it dude. I've also heard a lot of bad things about the shot even before KNOWING about that video and how dangerous the shot can be. If you catch the flu (I hope you don't) then just take the tummy flu (or w.e they call it) and stay at home and recover. Your butt already wrinkled from sitting on the PC most of the week so another week will not make a difference, Naps. :p

[Londonrockz568]

I knew that vaccine was lethal. I mean no one creates such a vaccine in NO time if you know what I mean. I think this is the fastest vaccine ever created for a disease like that.

This is what i put on Facebook. I shared the video from this thread.

"Something is up....since when has the world put out a vaccine so quickly for something??? Call me crazy, but both the Swine Flu and reg Flu vaccines are something else and public has no idea what it is yet they just take it or get the vaccine like a bag of skittles. I told my mom i dont want any months ago and she looked at me like i was crazy... and now all of a sudden, there are videos and emails flying around about how people are getting SEVERE damage after getting the vaccines. I know vaccines sometimes make you sick, but when you get a FLU vaccine and it gives you a complete Nervous system disorder!! Something is going on... and the people who get the vaccines are guinea pig test subjects. DO NOT GET THE VACCINES."

[TarekElsakka]

I completely agree. If the vaccine is actually more dangerous than the Flu itself then why take the risk? Seriously, this is dumb.

[Londonrockz568]

I dont want it...

Call it hollywood, or Crazy, or paranoid... but in this day and age something like whats going on in FRINGE on tv is somewhat a reality.

[aknightstale41]

If your under 60 it's definately better to not get a flu shot, and actually better to get the flu as often as possible because you build up immunity to it over time, kinda like a bee keeper who gets stung hundreds of times but it dosent affect him.

[ZR_Yancy]

and actually better to get the flu as often as possible because you build up immunity to it over time, kinda like a bee keeper who gets stung hundreds of times but it dosent affect him.

No thanks. I don't plan on walking in reverse for the rest of my life.:dft002:amazed

[BrownGem]

Tragic outcome for this lady and there is no cure. This is a rare reaction to vaccines but it does happen. I have refused flu vaccines since there inception and I definitely will not be taking the H1N1 vaccine either. Plenty of people have gotten swine flu and have recovered....just as with the regular flu. The media is really causing a hysteria with this issue. People died from the flu before Swine flu came along but you never heard anything about it. I am exposed to flu patients constantly on my job and I still will not be taking the vaccine. People under 25 are most at risk because their immunity isn't as strong from lack of exposure. Pay attention if your child (or you) gets the flu. If they don't feel better in a couple of days....take them to a doctor. Loss of appetite is normal but most people drink fluids without a problem. If they feel really bad right off the bat and can't eat or drink....or have a very high fever.....take them to a doctor sooner. Any complaints of stomach pain or discomfort...go to the doctor. Even after going to the doctor you STILL must be vigilant. If they feel worse the day after going to the doctor...go BACK to the doctor. Sometimes an emergency room visit is better because they see so much of what is going on with patients who are sicker than normal. You can't let it go on for an extended period.
I am by no means an expert but I am a nurse that works with children in a large hospital so I have seen this Swine flu in action....and death from it. These are the things I would do to protect me and loved ones.
We have all experienced the flu so just stay alert to the symptoms. The best defense is FAST treatment.
London mentioned vitamin B. I also read Vitamin D is important. People don't go out much in winter and Vitamin D is deficient from lack of exposure to sunlight.

[Napoleon_PhoneApart]

No thanks. I don't plan on walking in reverse for the rest of my life.:dft002:amazed

Did you misread his post?

[ZR_Yancy]

Did you misread his post?

Yes. Reading comprehension pwns me.:dft001:embarrassed

[Europa]

No one should take this vaccine (Swine Flu vaccine)—it is one of the most dangerous vaccines ever devised. It contains an immune adjuvant called squalene (MF-59) which has been shown to cause severe autoimmune disorders such as MS, rheumatoid arthritis and Lupus.

The newsletter for August covers this and it may not be out yet.This is the vaccine adjuvant that is strongly linked to the Gulf War syndrome, which killed over 10,000 soldiers and caused a 200% increase in the fatal disease ALS (Lou Gehreg disease). This virus H1N1 kills by causing a “cytokine storm”, which means that it cause the body’s immune system to overreact and that is why it is killing young people and is a mild disease in the elderly. (The elderly have weakened immune systems.) This vaccine is a very powerful immune stimulator and carries the real possibility of making the lethality of the virus much greater.

That's BS. A weakened immune system is no more a normal part of aging than Alzheimer's disease is.

I haven't missed an annual flu shot since the early 90's when I was in the military and skipping it was not an option. I'm a nurse and since heath care workers have frequent exposure, we have to sign a waiver if we wish to decline vaccination. Not getting the vaccine puts our coworkers and patients at risk, so I'm a strong advocate of vaccination. I haven't received the H1N1 vaccination yet, but only because I work nights and I'm too lazy to go in and get it in the daytime. They offer the annual flu shots early in the morning, so I get it right after work, but the hours aren't as good for the H1N1. I'm waiting for them to come around with the "flu vaccine cart" while I'm working.

This is media sensationalism. What happened to this girl is extremely sad. However, thousands of people die needlessly every year as a result of not getting vaccinated. You have to look at the numbers. Her case is a one in a million.

[computerfox]

I knew that vaccine was lethal. I mean no one creates such a vaccine in NO time if you know what I mean. I think this is the fastest vaccine ever created for a disease like that.

agreed! did people freak out this much when the regular flu came out?

[Europa]

The CDC/WHO has not "freaked out" any more than they have in the past when a strain became a pandemic.

[computerfox]

good point europa, but in the end more people die from the regular flu.

[BrownGem]

A lot of health professionals refuse the vaccine. The way I see it is I am the one at risk. I just stay home if I get sick. While the reaction in the video is rare...it is definitely a serious side effect.

[computerfox]

A lot of health professionals refuse the vaccine. The way I see it is I am the one at risk. I just stay home if I get sick. While the reaction in the video is rare...it is definitely a serious side effect.

same here. if i feel like i would just be wasting time going to class, i would just stay at home and try to heal a lot sooner. that vaccine is like russian roulette.

[JWiPhone]

I have never gotten a flu shot and never intend to. This swine flu can kiss my a$$.

[Europa]

same here. if i feel like i would just be wasting time going to class, i would just stay at home and try to heal a lot sooner. that vaccine is like russian roulette.
Russian Roulette has 1/6 odds. The odds of serious complications related to the H1N1 vaccine are no where near that.

[iphonewarrior]

I've had Tamiflu, the anti-viral for Swine Flu, it wasn't a shot or anything, it was in a form of tablets. I had to take two a day. They make you feel really sick and a little light headed.

I didn't really have a choice about declining it or asking for something else.

[KabaModern]

I got the Flu Shot last year and plan on getting it again this year. My work offers vaccination for free. I don't plan on getting the H1N1 vaccination, however.

[Lincoln]

I know four people that have had the swine flu in the past three or so weeks. They were out of school for a week, then came back perfectly fine. They said they felt pretty crappy, but it wasn't all that terrible. I really think people are really overreacting to it. No vaccination for me.

[Eragon]

My two younger daughters (8 and 5) were just given nasal spray shots. They are supposed to get a second dose in a couple of weeks. One of my 11 year old's class mates missed several weeks of school after coming down with Swine Flu. Doctors' offices are still asking patients to come into the offices even if they don't have the Swine Flu variant in order to statistically track the outbreak.

Swine Flu I can deal with. Getting a staff infection after going to the hospital because of the Swine Flu scares the hell out of me.

Europa is absolutely correct regarding the sensationalism people attributing to this outbreak. Last Spring, the federal government issued a memo to staff asking people to not congregate more than 2 feet from each other to prevent spreading of infection. I'm just glad I wasn't one of the rocket scientist feds who authored that memo.

Andromeda Strain, anyone?

[computerfox]

I know four people that have had the swine flu in the past three or so weeks. They were out of school for a week, then came back perfectly fine. They said they felt pretty crappy, but it wasn't all that terrible. I really think people are really overreacting to it. No vaccination for me.


yeah, the same thing actually happened with a girl in my calc class a couple weeks ago.

[Cjvdh]

Oh my that is absolutely horrible. Now my fiance doesn't even want to get the swine flu shot.

[Krunk83]

I got this in an email its about the H1N1 vaccine thats being handed out like skittles to the masses.

DR. RUSSELL BLAYLOCK ON SWINE FLU

This is an email sent to a friend of Dr. Blaylock and is now being forwarded to anyone interested. Please pass it along. Also note the attached biography of Dr. Blaylock. Dr. Blaylock is a board certified neurosurgeon, author and lecturer. He attended the LSU
School of Medicine in New Orleans and completed his general surgical internship and neurosurgical residency at the Medical University of South Carolina in Charleston , SC.


No one should take this vaccine (Swine Flu vaccine)—it is one of the most dangerous vaccines ever devised. It contains an immune adjuvant called squalene (MF-59) which has been shown to cause severe autoimmune disorders such as MS, rheumatoid arthritis and Lupus.

The newsletter for August covers this and it may not be out yet. This is the vaccine adjuvant that is strongly linked to the Gulf War syndrome, which killed over 10,000 soldiers and caused a 200% increase in the fatal disease ALS (Lou Gehreg disease). This virus H1N1 kills by causing a “cytokine storm”, which means that it cause the body’s immune system to overreact and that is why it is killing young people and is a mild disease in the elderly. (The elderly have weakened immune systems.) This vaccine is a very powerful immune stimulator and carries the real possibility of making the lethality of the virus much greater.

One’s best protection is vitamin D3.. One should take 5000 IU a day now and when the
disease begins to spread increase the dose to 15,000 IU a day. Vitamin D3
modulates the immune reaction, reducing the chance of an overreaction and stimulates the body to produce what are called antimicrobial peptides, which are powerful killers of viruses that does not involve immunity. This is dose related, which means the higher the dose of vitamin D3 the better the protection. Fish oils (the best is Carlson’s Norwegian lemon flavored fish oil) also reduce immune overreaction. One teaspoon a day should be
sufficient.


For severe symptoms, one teaspoon twice a day. Antioxidants of various kins also help—this includes, quercetin, curcumin, grapeseed extract, vitamin C and natural vitamin E. A good multivitamin/mineral such as Extend Core (www.vrp.com (http://www.vrp.com)) is also essential.

Too bad this happened to the girl from a regular flu shot, not the H1N1.

[Krunk83]

Don't get it dude. I've also heard a lot of bad things about the shot even before KNOWING about that video and how dangerous the shot can be. If you catch the flu (I hope you don't) then just take the tummy flu (or w.e they call it) and stay at home and recover. Your butt already wrinkled from sitting on the PC most of the week so another week will not make a difference, Naps. :p


People really shouldn't be dishing out advice on here on something that can be life or death to some people. This flu kills in days. I girl here in Chicago was feeling sick and went to take and nap and never woke up. It was the H1N1.

Do what your doctor says...

[Krunk83]

Oh my that is absolutely horrible. Now my fiance doesn't even want to get the swine flu shot.


It was from a regular flu shot, not the H1N1.

[psylichon]

Perspective:

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2603/4052849920_151eb84599_b.jpg

[evolution83]

Well, thx to Dave and Europa I had no idea this thread was here.

I heard a long time ago the swine flu shot is bad news, so I really don't know what to do. Usually when I get the flu I get it pretty bad and have to take a few days off from work. I better start taking a multi. Last thing I need is to get the flu and freak out over it.

[acosmichippo]

I can see why someone in healthcare, or other high-risk people may want it, but I honestly fail to see why the general population ought to get any kind of flu vaccination. 10 years ago, if you got sick, you dealt with it. Take some ibuprofen and mucinex, and you're good to go.

[acosmichippo]

You have to look at the numbers. Her case is a one in a million.

Yes, but look at ALL the numbers. what are the odds of something similar happening if you forego the vaccine and contract the flu?

I'll take my chances with the flu.

[Europa]

I can see why someone in healthcare, or other high-risk people may want it, but I honestly fail to see why the general population ought to get any kind of flu vaccination. 10 years ago, if you got sick, you dealt with it. Take some ibuprofen and mucinex, and you're good to go.
I tend to agree with this, especially concerning the H1N1 vaccine. It's too new and not worth the risks IMO. After researching the H1N1 vaccine, I've decided to decline it although I do frequently care for patients with swine flu at work. We use precautions, but exposure at some point is ultimately inevitable. I never miss the annual Influenza vaccine though.
Yes, but look at ALL the numbers. what are the odds of something similar happening if you forego the vaccine and contract the flu?

I'll take my chances with the flu.
I agree. I've changed my standpoint on it since writing that.

[The Apple]

According to Dave's chart, you better not have sex. STD related deaths are 467% more prevalent. Looking at that chart I fully expect the media to warn us about the Leprosy epidemic.

[juls1585]

i saw this on the news a few weeks ago and it broke my heart! i decided im not going to get either of the flu vaccines. i have lupus and im really nervous about getting them and ending up sick from them as i dont deal well with medicines. least if i dont get them i know i can handle the regular flu...ive just become the germ police with baby whipes, hand sanitizer and everything else that could keep me safe

[diverdown]

Saw this in the newspaper.....



Swine Flu - Advice

Dr. Vinay Goyal is an MBBS,DRM,DNB (Intensivist and Thyroid specialist) having clinical experience of over 20 years. He has worked in institutions like Hinduja Hospital , Bombay Hospital , Saifee Hospital , Tata Memorial etc.. Presently, he is heading our Nuclear Medicine Department and Thyroid clinic at Riddhivinayak Cardiac and Critical Centre, Malad (W). The following message given by him:

The only portals of entry are the nostrils and mouth/throat. In a global epidemic of this nature, it's almost impossible to avoid coming into contact with H1N1 in spite of all precautions. Contact with H1N1 is not so much of a problem as proliferation is. While you are still healthy and not showing any symptoms of H1N1 infection, in order to prevent proliferation, aggravation of symptoms and development of secondary infections, some very simple steps, not fully highlighted in most official communications, can be practiced (instead of focusing on how to stock N95 or Tamiflu):

1. Frequent hand-washing (well highlighted in all official communications).

2. "Hands-off-the-face" approach. Resist all temptations to touch any part of face (unless you want to eat, bathe or slap).

3. *Gargle twice a day with warm salt water (use Listerine if you don't trust salt). *H1N1 takes 2-3 days after initial infection in the throat/ nasal cavity to proliferate and show characteristic symptoms. Simple gargling prevents proliferation. In a way, gargling with salt water has the same effect on a healthy individual that Tamiflu has on an infected one. Don't underestimate this simple, inexpensive and powerful preventative method.

4. *Similar to 3 above, *clean your nostrils at least once every day with warm salt water. Not everybody may be good at Jala Neti or Sutra Neti (very good Yoga asana to clean nasal cavities), but *blowing the nose hard once a day and swabbing both nostrils with cotton buds dipped in warm salt water is very effective in bringing down viral population.

5. *Boost your natural immunity with foods that are rich in Vitamin C (Alma and other citrus fruits). *If you have to supplement with Vitamin C tablets, make sure that it also has Zinc to boost absorption.

6. *Drink as much of warm liquids (tea, coffee, etc) as you can. *Drinking warm liquids has the same effect as gargling, but in the reverse direction. They wash off proliferating viruses from the throat into the stomach where they cannot survive, proliferate or do any harm.

[UpTheIrons]

The H1N1 vaccine has just been released and I've never heard anything on the news yet about people dying because they had the vaccination. I am in a high risk group, being 45 years old and diabetic. In Pueblo, CO, a 37 year old diabetic woman died from the virus. I'll take my chance and get the vaccination.