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ButtChew
10-12-2009, 02:42 PM
Haven't jb my phone since back in the 2.x days, decided to recently. Are there any apps that let you download movie files through safari? I'm not talking about the streaming / torrent type stuff, but if there is a link to a movie I want a "right click -> save as" type feature.

iphonewarrior
10-12-2009, 03:01 PM
Nope.

You can however use dTunes. Depending on what size movies your talking about, do you mean a full movie?

If size isn't an issue then you can defo download through dTunes, you need to have Terminal installed as well. All available from Cydia.

ButtChew
10-12-2009, 03:03 PM
Nah, mainly for streaming sites that link directly to the mpg files. Takes forever to load on anything but wifi. And if you play/pause it often times messes them up.

What is dtunes exactly?

iphonewarrior
10-12-2009, 03:08 PM
We can't discuss much further as it's against forum policy. The information I have given you is only from what I've read, I wanted a better understanding also, hence the research. You'll find that google and/or yahoo have the answer.

ButtChew
10-12-2009, 03:12 PM
lol, can't talk about music downloadnig on a forum dedicated to hacking/unlocking phones? It's legal to download mp3's if you own the original (iTunes or CD).

Craziness. I'll check it out though, thanks.

iphonewarrior
10-12-2009, 03:17 PM
This site isn't dedicated to hacking/unlocking phones.

You weren't talking about downloading music, you were talking about downloading movies. I'm sure there's a law, that has something to do with copyright out there somewhere ;)

Google is your friend, search well and you will get an answer.

Europa
10-12-2009, 03:24 PM
Jailbreaking isn't illegal, and is in fact encouraged here because it enhances the user experience. Discussing cracked apps is stealing from developers and it is against forum policy. Pirating music ruffles the feathers of many people here, and while it isn't against forum policy (AFAIK), you just don't want to go there. Trust me. So far, no one has really seemed to mind when we discuss movie torrents. This is just my perception.

ButtChew
10-12-2009, 03:32 PM
You weren't talking about downloading music, you were talking about downloading movies. I'm sure there's a law, that has something to do with Copyright out there somewhere ;)

You can download any form of media (software, video, music) as long as you own the original.

Jailbreaking isn't illegal, and is in fact encouraged here because it enhances the user experience.

Isn't it against AT&T ToS and Contract?
I know unlocking it is, especially modifying the broadband.

Hacking my satellite would enhance my experience with added channels, but doesn't mean it's legal :dft011:wicked_smile

Discussing cracked apps is stealing from developers and it is against forum policy.

dTunes isn't cracked? It's legit I thought.

Pirating music ruffles the feathers of many people here, and while it isn't against forum policy (AFAIK), you just don't want to go there. Trust me. So far, no one has really seemed to mind when we discuss movie torrents. This is just my perception.

Thanks for the heads up :dft010:smiling

iphonewarrior
10-12-2009, 03:32 PM
Jailbreaking isn't illegal, and is in fact encouraged here because it enhances the user experience. Discussing cracked apps is stealing from developers and it is against forum policy. Pirating music ruffles the feathers of many people here, and while it isn't against forum policy (AFAIK), you just don't want to go there. Trust me. So far, no one has really seemed to mind when we discuss movie torrents. This is just my perception.

It's an area where I don't really want to go to.

As for ruffling feathers over music. It's exactly the same with films.

When you download a Torrent and use whichever piece software you use to download the movie/application i.e Vuze ...your still stealing it. You haven't payed for it (unless it was free in the first place, but thats a different subject), so why should any normal person go and spend there hard earned cash on buying it legit, when you can just steal it.
If this isn't forum policy, then it should be. If cracked apps are wirtten into our rules, then movie/music downloading should be in there as well.

ButtChew
10-12-2009, 03:39 PM
When you download a Torrent ... your still stealing it.

It's only stealing if you don't own the original. I don't want to spend the time converting / resizing / debugging a DVD I already own to get it into a good iPhone format. If I own a movie, it's perfectly legal for me to DL an iPhone version of it.

If cracked apps are wirtten into our rules, then movie/music downloading should be in there as well.

I agree, jailbreaking is cracking/hacking Apple's copyrighted software.

iphonewarrior
10-12-2009, 03:43 PM
Well then.... lets go back to your opening post.

You want an app that will allow downloading through Safari. Well dTunes does this.

If you find an iPhone compatible site, which allows you to download the file then go for it.

Your statements confuse me, you say that it's not stealing if you own the original.
Tell me why you want to download it when you have the original, why don't you just convert them on your desktop and sync them to your iPhone through iTunes????????

ButtChew
10-12-2009, 03:48 PM
You want an app that will allow downloading through Safari. Well dTunes does this.

I can post a direct link into dTunes and it will download it?

Your statements confuse me, you say that it's not stealing if you own the original. Tell me why you want to download it when you have the original, why don't you just convert them on your desktop and sync them to your iPhone through iTunes????????

Two reasons:

1) I'm at work, most of my iphone tinkering is done at work. I don't have my movie collection with me.

2) Turning a DVD into a legit iphone format takes time, and more importantly software that I don't have. Even with the software, you're talking an hour minimum if you were proficient in it. Getting the DVD onto your computer, converting VOB's and stripping out menus, converting to an MPEG, making sure the screen format is adjusted propery (4:3, etc). I can download a 100MB version in minutes, why spend 1-2 hours?

Europa
10-12-2009, 03:50 PM
You're correct, dTunes isn't a cracked app.

Jailbreaking and unlocking aren't a violation of the ToS. You have to use the jailbreak perform a malicious act, for it to become illegal.

ButtChew
10-12-2009, 03:55 PM
Jailbreaking and unlocking aren't a violation of the ToS. You have to use the jailbreak perform a malicious act, for it to become illegal.

But it's modifying Apple's copyrighted operating system in a manner they don't allow?

The malicious act makes sense, but an act doesn't have to me malicious to be illegal. Take winterboard, you don't think someone had submitted a theme app to the App Store? Apple said no, we don't want that on the iPhone. Cracked apps like winterboard get around that.

Seems like we're hitting on semantics now, and I don't actually disagree with you, but I'm sure there are some programs (like the free tether programs) that are illegal, or at least violate contracts/ToS.

Europa
10-12-2009, 04:01 PM
Ok, but AFAIK, there have only been a few people actually charged. All of them performed malicious acts. I believe David Ritz was the first one. He performed a command line zone transfer to trap a spammer.

ButtChew
10-13-2009, 10:34 AM
Again, just because a few were charged instead of many, doesn't make it legal. Millions of people illegally DL mp3's on an hourly basis. How many stories do you hear about them being prosecuted? Doesn't happen often, but doesn't make it anymore right.

But I digress, and to keep the thread on topic I found the exact type of app I was originally looking for (available through Cydia):

The app "Safari Download Plug-In" will let you download

This plugin supports downloading of various archive files (zip, rar, dmg) as well as exes, torrents, and all media types that the built-in media player supports. Choose between downloading and streaming at the push of a button.

iphonewarrior
10-13-2009, 03:39 PM
I can't believe this thread it still running. This discussion is on the hairy edge of reason.

This needs to be locked.

diverdown
10-13-2009, 04:44 PM
I can post a direct link into dTunes and it will download it?



Two reasons:

1) I'm at work, most of my iphone tinkering is done at work. I don't have my movie collection with me.

2) Turning a DVD into a legit iphone format takes time, and more importantly software that I don't have. Even with the software, you're talking an hour minimum if you were proficient in it. Getting the DVD onto your computer, converting VOB's and stripping out menus, converting to an MPEG, making sure the screen format is adjusted propery (4:3, etc). I can download a 100MB version in minutes, why spend 1-2 hours?

Actually its a relatively easy process. You can use handbrake for Mac or cloneDVD Mobile for PC. Pop your movie into your drive, select the iphone presets and hit start.......45 minutes later your done. Drag it into your music/movie folder download the cover art from Wikipedia and then sync with iTunes.

ButtChew
10-14-2009, 09:53 AM
You can use handbrake for Mac or cloneDVD Mobile for PC.

Well first off, that software is $50. And you would need additional software (AnyDVD) to successfully rip certain DVD's which is another $40 ... and that is only the mobile version. I'd have to buy even more software to rip it for viewing through my PC at home.

45 minutes later your done.

Why would I spend almost $100, and 45 minutes, when I can spend $0 and have it ready in 10 minutes?

This discussion is on the hairy edge of reason.

This needs to be locked.

Nothing illegal or against forum policies are being discussed. Download applications, whether for a computer or mobile phone, are 100% legit and offer many benefits that enhance file handling.

diverdown
10-14-2009, 10:18 AM
[QUOTE=ButtChew;532239]Well first off, that software is $50. And you would need additional software (AnyDVD) to successfully rip certain DVD's which is another $40 ... and that is only the mobile version. I'd have to buy even more software to rip it for viewing through my PC at home.

Why would I spend almost $100, and 45 minutes, when I can spend $0 and have it ready in 10 minutes?

You have a point. However, if you have a Mac, I believe Handbrake is free and no additional software is required. I have a pretty extensive collection of DVD's and found both CloneDVD Mobile and AnyDVD to be well worth the price. They are updated quite often and the updates are free. Both Handbrake and CloneDVD Mobile offer several format choices and I have had no problem watching them on my iPhone, Mac or TV.

I'll bet that it most likely works out to more than 10 minutes if you factor the time it takes to find the videos on the net and to find them in the format and quality you want. The cost for the programs was justified in my mind as I know both the quality and format I'm getting......I just que them up and go about whatever else I was doing...

~S

ButtChew
10-14-2009, 10:23 AM
Yeah, I'm probably just stingy :p

I have 20mbps internet though, so downloading a 100MB file only takes a little over 1 minute if I hit 1.5MB/s (which isn't close to my cap). As far as finding the movies, I'm high up in a lot of private trackers thanks to my upload speeds and a dedicated seed box. In the end though, I don't think I'd ever encounter a movie I couldn't find and download in under 20 minutes.

Tell ya what, you buy me a license and I'll try it out :ok:ok

diverdown
10-14-2009, 10:29 AM
Yeah, I'm probably just stingy :p

I have 20mbps internet though, so downloading a 100MB file only takes a little over 1 minute if I hit 1.5MB/s (which isn't close to my cap). As far as finding the movies, I'm high up in a lot of private trackers thanks to my upload speeds and a dedicated seed box. In the end though, I don't think I'd ever encounter a movie I couldn't find and download in under 20 minutes.

Tell ya what, you buy me a license and I'll try it out :ok:ok

They offer a trial period.....download and try it...... :dft003:coolkid
~S