Awesome free application switcher.. Kirikae now on Cydia.

[jptolife]

I haven't seen any threads on this so I thought I'd start one. I got it yesterday and I must say it works pretty well, especially if you have backgrounder installed as well. From any application all you have to do is double click the home button and it will bring up all the current running apps. From there you can switch to any app you want. If you have backgrounder installed, it will enable backgrounder on the app you are running and open the other application. It is so sweet!

[iphonewarrior]

mQuickDo does this much better... all you do is certain preset swipes across your screen and it works perfectly. I'd check it out, it's totally changed the way in which I use the phone.

[kakofonix]

Kirikae is free and has virtually no learning curve, unlike mQuickDo. In my books, "free" trumps everytime. :dft012:wink

[iphonewarrior]

You maybe right, but usually in my experience paying for apps, usually means there better.

I suggest the OP still tries mQuickDo. If they don't like it then fair enough, but it really is a good, well designed application. I'm sure i'm not the only one on here that likes mQuickDo.

[Napoleon_PhoneApart]

I agree totally with iphonewarrior. mQuickDo has definitely changed the way I use my 3GS. Nothing against Kirikae, but free does not always equal better, or none of us would have iPhones.

[jptolife]

I completely understand and agree with you iphonewarrior, but I already tried it and I uninstalled it the same day. A great app but just not for me. This app is just what I needed, very simple and straightforward. I also agree with kakofonix, free is the way to go. ^_^

[iphonewarrior]

I agree totally with iphonewarrior. mQuickDo has definitely changed the way I use my 3GS. Nothing against Kirikae, but free does not always equal better, or none of us would have iPhones.

Kevin, you deserve a thanks in return as you were the person that informed me of this app.

I don't understand why the majority of people go for the cheaper/free option.

These apps cost money because they are good, the devs know they are good.

I really would try it, you will not be unhappy with your purchase. The gestures/swipes are easy enough to learn, you could master them in 5 minutes.

Just do it.

[Napoleon_PhoneApart]

Well, mQuickDo does have a small learning curve.

In this day and age of instant gratification and short attention spans, a lot of really good apps get passed up.

[kakofonix]

LMAO! Is this a pissing contest or what? I was speaking for myself. Mind you, I do have mQuickDo and, to state the obvious, paid for it.

[jptolife]

LOL... Everyone has preferences and likes. I think everyone can agree and respect that.

[Napoleon_PhoneApart]

http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w20/Gathomblipoob/pissing-contest-thumb1292058.jpg

[iphonewarrior]

http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w20/Gathomblipoob/pissing-contest-thumb1292058.jpg

Nice pic, thats me and you I guess.

I think we've just been dissed. :dft011:wicked_smile

[jptolife]

LMAO.. I don't understand what this whole thing has turned to. I was just trying to talk about an application that I think is very useful. You guys already have an app that you use and like, so why are you getting irritated that I found another one that I like and will probably use as opposed to using the one you like? I said it before, mQuickdo is a great app, but I DO NOT want to use it. Its my preference.

[iphonewarrior]

Your getting this all wrong.

I do not have a problem with what you choose to use. Chill out.

We are only playing. Reading back over this thread, I/we have said nothing to upset/offend anyone.

[kakofonix]

Y'all good sport!:ok:ok

I particularly like the golden urinal...will add it to my assenal (or is that arsenal?) :dft011:wicked_smile

[iphonewarrior]

Y'all good sport!:ok:ok

I particularly like the golden urinal...will add it to my assenal (or is that arsenal?) :dft011:wicked_smile

How random... lol. :dft012:wink

[jptolife]

Your getting this all wrong.

I do not have a problem with what you choose to use. Chill out.

We are only playing. Reading back over this thread, I/we have said nothing to upset/offend anyone.

lol.. good to know. Not that I was upset or offended, but I just really like this app. :ok:ok

[patrickj]

I'll probably give this app a look, but here's two things I like better about mQuickDo right away:

It doesn't make use of the home button - which both saves a bit of wear and tear, and keeps that freed up to use it as standard for a favorite to launch with a double tap

More importantly, if I've understood this new app correctly, it only lets you switch to apps running in the background. I've found I don't need to do that - I use mQuickDo to switch between my most commonly used apps, and I let them launch fresh each time. This saves battery life, and I've seen virtually zero difference in speed of launching.

[rojocrandall]

Thanks for the heads up jptolife - Kirikae is just what I needed - quick, simple, and free way to access my backgrounded apps. (The old pre-3.0 Backgrounder had this built in.) Maybe someday if I have the time, I'll look into mQuickDo. Don't need a big fat do-it-all knife in my pocket when a slender single blade will do.

[Tinman]

This app does what it does VERY well. In fact IMO it does what it does better than mQuickDo (for app switching). Unlike mQuickDo it automatically enables background operation for the current app before switching to another.

With mQuickDo I have to first hold down home to enable backgrounding, taking me to the springboard (I don't use app-level auto backgrounding for many apps, such as games). I then have to switch to the app I want. And often times I've forgotten about this and I ended up exiting the app, so I have to start it all over again.


Waaaay easier to understand too. It just works.


Edit: You can also terminate apps with this app too. Swipe a running app to kill it. Even this is, IMO, better implemented than MQD where you have to drag an app to... to? To open space and hope it works the first time (for me it takes an average of two tries to close an app).


http://www.everythingicafe.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=5446&stc=1&d=1252527105


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Mike

[Napoleon_PhoneApart]

Just enable backgrounding operation in the Backgrounder menu.

Actually, I like mQuickDo for a lot more than just application switching. I like it for putting the iPhone to sleep, returning to my home page, taking screenshots, and selecting from five apps of my choice from the lock screen.

[Tinman]

Just enable backgrounding operation in the Backgrounder menu.

I know that, but as I stated : I don't want to enable auto-backgrounding for many of the apps I run, like games. Actually, with Kirikae I don't have any apps set to auto-background operation. No longer need that.


Actually, I like mQuickDo for a lot more than just application switching. I like it for putting the iPhone to sleep, returning to my home page, taking screenshots, and selecting from five apps of my choice from the lock screen.Don't really use any of those features except for the 5 quick apps (which I have setup to not show on the lock screen--hated that). I press home to go home, use SBSettings for iPhone power and shutdown options, and take screen-shots by pressing home and power.

I do have a screenshot gesture setup in MQD but after fumbling with it one time I had to ask myself, "why?" Pressing home/power seems easier to remember and just works.

I realize some like the gestures thing with MQD. But to me it was like going back to a Palm or something: having to memorize arcane gestures to do something--and sometimes getting it wrong. The iPhone freed me from that and I guess I don't wanna go back.

The only thing I use for MQD now is the 5 app launch thing. But that seems to be coming to Kirikae soon. If it is added I will make a donation.

So I might actually delete mQuickDo.

I think the only reason there is MQB Vs Kirikae debate in this thread is because the first reply outright stated that MQD "does this much better." Considering "this" is app switching, and after using both, IMO Kirikae does it better, cleaner, and it is of course free. YMMV.




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Mike

[jptolife]

This app does what it does VERY well. In fact IMO it does what it does better than mQuickDo (for app switching). Unlike mQuickDo it automatically enables background operation for the current app before switching to another.

With mQuickDo I have to first hold down home to enable backgrounding, taking me to the springboard (I don't use app-level auto backgrounding for many apps, such as games). I then have to switch to the app I want. And often times I've forgotten about this and I ended up exiting the app, so I have to start it all over again.


Waaaay easier to understand too. It just works.


Edit: You can also terminate apps with this app too. Swipe a running app to kill it. Even this is, IMO, better implemented than MQD where you have to drag an app to... to? To open space and hope it works the first time (for me it takes an average of two tries to close an app).


http://www.everythingicafe.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=5446&stc=1&d=1252527105


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Mike

Exactly.. This app is perfect for me. I just find it to be SO useful yet so simple. Love it.

[jptolife]

The app has just been updated to include the launching of apps. :)

[Tinman]

One thing I find interesting about Kirikae is that when I kill Mail and iPod apps they seem to stay closed. When I kill them with SBSettings or mQuickDo they come right back as being active, even if I don't launch them again. Backgrounder badges show almost immediately, and they show up again as active processes.

But with Kirikae they do not show as active processes after I kill them, unless I actually open them again.

Anyone else have Mail and iPod apps come back after trying to kill via SBSettings or MQD?


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Mike

[kakofonix]

One thing I find interesting about Kirikae is that when I kill Mail and iPod apps they seem to stay closed. When I kill them with SBSettings or mQuickDo they come right back as being active, even if I don't launch them again. Backgrounder badges show almost immediately, and they show up again as active processes.

But with Kirikae they do not show as active processes after I kill them, unless I actually open them again.

Anyone else have Mail and iPod apps come back after trying to kill via SBSettings or MQD?


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Mike

Yes, everything you observed happens to me too. To verify whether Kirikae (must mean something in some other language, uh?) was actually killing those apps, I watched the SB Settings status bar memory display and noticed huge gains in free memory. This app's power is understated. Simplicity is truly the hallmark of genius.

[kakofonix]

Here's an odd development -the "Delete" button for mails now says "Quit", just like in Kirikae...

[Tinman]

Yea same thing for Notes, and probably anything else that uses that slide-to-delete control. I suspect the app's author changed the text for "Delete" not realizing it would be global.

I can live with it, but I could also live with having "Delete" be the text when killing apps (though I realize there will be people who think that means deleting the app itself).

One other bug is that if you have iPod in your Kirikae favorites it will crash. So remove iPod and it will be fine. You can still get to iPod anyway just by double-pressing Home again once Kirikae is loaded on the first double-press.

Both of the above issues have been reported so I'd expect a fix rather quickly.


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Mike

[psylichon]

This thread literally made me laugh. App switching turf wars FTW. Lol... can't wait until I can jailbreak again...

[Napoleon_PhoneApart]

This truly is the Land of the Geeks!

[kakofonix]

The disturbing thing is that statement by Napo gave me warm fuzzies...

[iphonewarrior]

I have just installed this on my 3GS, has anyone had problems with Voice Control.

I hold the home button down, Voice Control launches and then crashes...

[kakofonix]

VC works fine for me...

[iphonewarrior]

Even with Kirikae and backgrounder installed?

I'm going to have to have a play with my settings a little.

[Tinman]

No problems with Voice Control here either. Well, other than it doesn't like my NY accent.



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Mike

[patrickj]

No problems with Voice Control here either. Well, other than it doesn't like my NY accent.



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Mike

Hmm, disliking NY accents is a hidden feature that I find very impressive.

[Tinman]

Hmm, disliking NY accents is a hidden feature that I find very impressive.

Watch it there, Patrick. I know where ya' live, punk. ;)



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Mike

[iphonewarrior]

It must not like my phone at all. I've removed it and reinstalled it, it's still not playing ball. It crashes on launch.

If anyone has a way round this then I'm all ears. The only reason I'm using this app is because I can't transfer my mQuickDo license.

[Napoleon_PhoneApart]

You can't transfer it?

[iphonewarrior]

It wont let me, I have the license as well. Do you think I should contact mCleaner to see why I can't transfer?

[iphonewarrior]

I get a pop-up saying ...the serial number is illegal.

[Napoleon_PhoneApart]

Have you contacted the developer?

[iphonewarrior]

Yes, I sent an email to thr address they provide. I'm just waiting to hear back from them.

I'l update when I get a reply

[patrickj]

Watch it there, Patrick. I know where ya' live, punk. ;)



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Mike

Ruh-roh. Careful though - my large dog'll get ya. And by get ya of course I mean he'll yawn, give your bollocks a long sniff, and ask you to go get him donuts :)

[3GiphoneE]

I've dwld mQuickdo as well, but it knocks out sbS settings coz of the swiping.???
Can any1 help?

[Europa]

You'll need move the gesture bar to the bottom of the screen. For more information regarding mQuickdo, see these threads,

http://www.everythingicafe.com/forum/third-party-applications/multitasking-with-mquickdo-and-backgrounder-51988.html

http://www.everythingicafe.com/forum/iphone-modifications/mquickdo-question-52124.html

http://www.everythingicafe.com/forum/third-party-applications/mquickdo-virtual-home-and-power-button-for-the-iphone-47395.html

[iphonewarrior]

I've dwld mQuickdo as well, but it knocks out sbS settings coz of the swiping.???
Can any1 help?

You don't need to move the gesture bar unless you've moved it. It's default location is at the bottom.

Launch mQuickDo and hit the settings tab, the second toggle down from the top- 'Trigger by StatusBar' make sure it's to OFF.

Doing this will allow SBSettings to work as normal.

[iphonewarrior]

Have you contacted the developer?

I got a reply from mCleaner with my new serial number... everything is working as it should. I love how quick it launches apps, I can't believe I've waited to so long to get the 3GS

[3GiphoneE]

thx for the quick reply. I've just dwld it so im new @ this app. Still testing it out.

[iphonewarrior]

thx for the quick reply. I've just dwld it so im new @ this app. Still testing it out.

Was the problem 'Trigger by StatusBar' ?

[3GiphoneE]

I uncheck'd the "trigger in status bar" so now works from the bottom, I'm learning how to manipulate the backgrounder w/mquick for multitasking. Kinda tricky when you're @ work. But so far it's a keeper. Amazing, cool stuff.

[Tinman]

mQuickDo is like so, July. I've removed it. And this is a Kirikae thread anyway!

Now back on topic Kirikae has been updated... No more issue with "Quit" showing in other apps. Very nice app.

As for free Vs. paid as far as Cydia is concerned? Probably never spend again for me. I'm stuck here on firmware 3.0 with no jailbreak out yet for 3.1, so if I upgrade I just lost the apps I paid for till jb is released. I hate that. (Not hating the app developers--it's Apple for being such a PITA about it.)



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Mike

[Napoleon_PhoneApart]

I uncheck'd the "trigger in status bar" so now works from the bottom, I'm learning how to manipulate the backgrounder w/mquick for multitasking. Kinda tricky when you're @ work. But so far it's a keeper. Amazing, cool stuff.

I have mQuickDo set to activate (and deactivate) backgrounding in apps with a short left-to-right swipe. Works great.

[iphonewarrior]

mQuickDo is like so, July. I've removed it. And this is a Kirikae thread anyway!

Now back on topic Kirikae has been updated... No more issue with "Quit" showing in other apps. Very nice app.

I thought I'd give it another try, and to no surprise it's still messing up my Voice Control, don't ask me why as I really do not know why.

Confused.

[Tinman]

I thought I'd give it another try, and to no surprise it's still messing up my Voice Control, don't ask me why as I really do not know why.

Confused.

The author is pretty responsive. In Cydia try adding a comment about it. He fixed the issue with "Quit" displaying in all slide-to-delete lists, as well as a bug that would crash springboard if iPod was a favorite, in like a day.

Wish I could help but that doesn't happen to me with VC.



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Mike

[iphonewarrior]

Thats what concerns me, no one else has piped up and commented on issues. I don't think it's a massive problem as mQuickDo does it for me as it's simple. But Kirikae is also simple-which is good.

I'll try contacting him/her and I'll see if I get a response. My VC just launches and crashes after about 1 second, strange huh.