Great little app

[vansouza]

http://uphonehome.com (http://uphonehome.com/)

found this at macrumors if that is ok... point your iphone there...:laugh2:

[xoulo]

is this for real?.... i dont trust those chat things

[Doc Holiday]

First of all, I would like to think us iPhone users have some level of intelligence and know the difference between an application and a webpage with just a bunch of links on it. I've seen these iinked webpages popping up calling themselves apps and it's pissing me off. As a developer, calling this an app is a joke. It's like me creating a search application just by making a webpage with a link to google on it, give us anxious "real" application hungry owners a break from these so-called "web apps"

[alb0zf1n3st]

First of all, I would like to think us iPhone users have some level of intelligence and know the difference between an application and a webpage with just a bunch of links on it. I've seen these iinked webpages popping up calling themselves apps and it's pissing me off. As a developer, calling this an app is a joke. It's like me creating a search application just by making a webpage with a link to google on it, give us anxious "real" application hungry owners a break from these so-called "web apps"


Very well done.

[stiphone]

well said Doc!!!

[Juego]

First of all, I would like to think us iPhone users have some level of intelligence and know the difference between an application and a webpage with just a bunch of links on it. I've seen these iinked webpages popping up calling themselves apps and it's pissing me off. As a developer, calling this an app is a joke. It's like me creating a search application just by making a webpage with a link to google on it, give us anxious "real" application hungry owners a break from these so-called "web apps"
Agreed :2cool:

[dsuppa]

As a developer, calling this an app is a joke. It's like me creating a search application just by making a webpage with a link to google on i.


You get a standing ovation for this alone.

Oh yeah and "Your A Daisy If You Do", lol.

[Boros]

Damn, you're smug.

The poor guy was just trying to post something helpful. No, it's definately not an app, but these stupid Web pages are about all we have right now. Personally, I found it to be a useful bookmark.

Being new here, I'm surprised at how rude some of these responses are.


First of all, I would like to think us iPhone users have some level of intelligence and know the difference between an application and a webpage with just a bunch of links on it. I've seen these iinked webpages popping up calling themselves apps and it's pissing me off. As a developer, calling this an app is a joke. It's like me creating a search application just by making a webpage with a link to google on it, give us anxious "real" application hungry owners a break from these so-called "web apps"

[dsuppa]

it's a forum about 85% of the people on all forums are rude. It adds color :laugh2:

[Doc Holiday]

Damn, you're smug.

The poor guy was just trying to post something helpful. No, it's definately not an app, but these stupid Web pages are about all we have right now. Personally, I found it to be a useful bookmark.

Being new here, I'm surprised at how rude some of these responses are.

First off, welcome to the forum. I'm sure by now you've found a lot of useful information.

It is not my intent to hurt anyone's feelings, it is just my opinion which many iPhone users share. I didn't call the poster any names and by my response I hope he/she, as well as others, now understand the difference. You're right, web apps are the only thing available right now, but not all of them are stupid. I mentioned this in a previous post, that web apps have their place and when developed correctly for the iphone can be quite useful such as the remote desktop apps floating around.

Many of us on here can't wait for "real" applications to be released and we are on here to keep an eye out, anxious for anything new. So when someone posts "new iphone app" and we find out its a web page of links it's disapointing and yesterday i vented.

If you found it useful, cool. In a few steps you can do the same thing. All I'm saying is that this post and simiilar ones should be called "Nice Links Page". By the way, you're way to nice by calling him a poor guy, but I'll give you the benefit of the doubt in that he was trying to be helpful. You make me sound like I'm the big bully, damn I one of the good guys on here ha ha ha

[vansouza]

First off, welcome to the forum. I'm sure by now you've found a lot of useful information.

So when someone posts "new iphone app" and we find out its a web page of links it's disapointing and yesterday i vented.

You make me sound like I'm the big bully, damn I one of the good guys on here ha ha ha

I am less then a year to Macs but I have three of them; I admit I stepped on toes here but yes, some of you come of as rude, which I guess is ok because I came off as stupid.

Not being a programmer, I found the site I listed, to be just what I was looking for ... for now.

See you all around... Van

[vansouza]

Boros... thank you for getting what I meant in the post...

[SmartAlx]

it's a forum about 85% of the people on all forums are rude. It adds color :laugh2:You know in the early days of this forum (3 weeks ago) we were all commenting on how polite and cordial everybody is here. So please let's not be rude just because we think everybody else is going to be. Assume the best out of people. You might be right.

[Doc Holiday]

Hey Van, that's cool. You found something and posted it. But didn't you read my response, do you understand where I and many others are coming from?

By the way, you weren't very careful not to call this an app, thus the title of your thread "Great little app" and you weren't stepping on anybody's toes, you were just misleading. I don't know anybody who would call a portal page a web app, do you? Even your friend on here would agree with me on that.

I find that most of the people on here are actually quite helpful and to say "yes, you all are, or certainly come off as, rude" IS RUDE. Just because I didn't play cheerleader and say, "Great find Van, thanks!" I'm being rude? I was sarchastic at best and what does you owning a mac have to do with my opinion of your "great little app" find. Listen, I know you didn't create the page and my complaint isn't with you, but towards web programmers who create these pages and call them apps, that's all.

[Doc Holiday]

You know in the early days of this forum (3 weeks ago) we were all commenting on how polite and cordial everybody is here. So please let's not be rude just because we think everybody else is going to be. Assume the best out of people. You might be right.

Early on I bet it was nice here, but now that there are over a million iphone users, this board is being flooded with misinformation, repeated posts and people with different sensitivity levels. I have written numerous posts helping others out and it's frustrating reading misleading information. Yesterday I got fed up and spoke out, now I'm being called rude for doing so? How I see it, I assume nothing, so when someone posts something that's my impression of that person. I know you mean well, but with surge of iphone users now out there, this board needs all the help filtering the junk. Can we please drop this subject now?! I have encoding threads to post to :laugh2:

[vansouza]

Hey Van, that's cool. You found something and posted it. But didn't you read my response, do you understand where I and many others are coming from?

By the way, you weren't very careful not to call this an app, thus the title of your thread "Great little app" and you weren't stepping on anybody's toes, you were just misleading. I don't know anybody who would call a portal page a web app, do you? Even your friend on here would agree with me on that.

I find that most of the people on here are actually quite helpful and to say "yes, you all are, or certainly come off as, rude" IS RUDE. Just because I didn't play cheerleader and say, "Great find Van, thanks!" I'm being rude? I was sarchastic at best and what does you owning a mac have to do with my opinion of your "great little app" find. Listen, I know you didn't create the page and my complaint isn't with you, but towards web programmers who create these pages and call them apps, that's all.

As I understand it, at this stage of iPhone development, there are no real apps for the iPhone that Apple has not stuck in it. Web pages are in fact being called apps for the iPhone. I am not going to debate if they are or are not, but they are being called that.

That said... I agree with you... lets just drop it ... see you around...

[rj5620]

As I understand it, at this stage of iPhone development, there are no real apps for the iPhone that Apple has not stuck in it. Web pages are in fact being called apps for the iPhone. I am not going to debate if they are or are not, but they are being called that.

That said... I agree with you... lets just drop it ... see you around...

Van, thanks for the pointer very useful.:2cool:

[deac]

van

thanks for the cool find. Having all those assembled in one place is quite helpful to us new iPhoners. Been happily using Macs for 22 years which has nothing to do with this issue cause your find and post were helpful to iPhone. App, portal, thingy, widget, who cares what it is -- its helpful and makes using iPhone better.

ya'll chill

[Napoleon_PhoneApart]

it's a forum about 85% of the people on all forums are rude. It adds color :laugh2:

The power of anonymity! Internet=online CB radio...:laugh2:

[Napoleon_PhoneApart]

Early on I bet it was nice here, but now that there are over a million iphone users, this board is being flooded with misinformation...

Hell, Doc, this board was flooded with misinformation well before the release of the iPhone! :laugh2:

[oriolesfan23]

Is there a way to save some of those apps to the iPhone home screen, next to the other widgets?

[mynameisjesse]

I'm one of the creators of uPhoneHome and like one other person said, there are no true apps for the iPhone. If iBookmarks is considered an app for the iPhone, I see no reason as to why this wouldn't be. It's coded the same way, and it serves a purpose just like all the other ones do. It's been out for less than a week so we still have a loooot to add.

As for saying were just stealing links and calling it an app, that is absurd. It's ment to be used as your iPhones home page, a way to get to all these great iPhone 'apps' everyone loves with one simple click. I do not currently own an iPhone, but my partner does...this was created as something he wanted to have. Soon it will be much more but for as of right now we are trying to keep everything easy and simple.

Is there something you'd like to see us add? Is there something missing from it? Constructive criticism is more than welcomed.

[vansouza]

I'm one of the creators of uPhoneHome and like one other person said, there are no true apps for the iPhone. If iBookmarks is considered an app for the iPhone, I see no reason as to why this wouldn't be. It's coded the same way, and it serves a purpose just like all the other ones do. It's been out for less than a week so we still have a loooot to add.

As for saying were just stealing links and calling it an app, that is absurd. It's ment to be used as your iPhones home page, a way to get to all these great iPhone 'apps' everyone loves with one simple click. I do not currently own an iPhone, but my partner does...this was created as something he wanted to have. Soon it will be much more but for as of right now we are trying to keep everything easy and simple.

Is there something you'd like to see us add? Is there something missing from it? Constructive criticism is more than welcomed.

Thank you for your good work and welcome to the forum... Van

[Doc Holiday]

Hell, Doc, this board was flooded with misinformation well before the release of the iPhone! :laugh2:

A board with misinformation, yeah what a shock. :laugh2:

[Doc Holiday]

I'm one of the creators of uPhoneHome and like one other person said, there are no true apps for the iPhone. If iBookmarks is considered an app for the iPhone, I see no reason as to why this wouldn't be. It's coded the same way, and it serves a purpose just like all the other ones do. It's been out for less than a week so we still have a loooot to add.

As for saying were just stealing links and calling it an app, that is absurd. It's ment to be used as your iPhones home page, a way to get to all these great iPhone 'apps' everyone loves with one simple click. I do not currently own an iPhone, but my partner does...this was created as something he wanted to have. Soon it will be much more but for as of right now we are trying to keep everything easy and simple.

Wow, I thought we were going to drop this discussion, but I guess not. I'm glad in way, because maybe I'll be able to squash this "real" app vs. "web" app thing once and for all.

A "true" iPhone app can be run directly from the main screen or through the Safari web browser. Apps that run through Safari and are formatted for the iPhone are called "iPhone Web Apps" So with that said, there are "true" iPhone apps available, just none that run directly from the main screen without the use of Safari. A web page of links is neither. It's just a web page of links, you can't actually do antything, like play a game, search a database, remotely control your computer, chat with someone...

So what purpose does uPhoneHome and "apps" like this serve? It's not a bookmarks application (iBookmarks), because they're not my bookmarks. My assumption that it's purpose is to provide conveniently icon'd links to iPhone-friendly web pages. Is that a correct? But why do you have the linked pages open in a frame with your menu at the top? That gives the impression that those pages are your's when they really aren't. I didn't realize that was happening, so yes you are stealing linked content and displaying it as your own. You should just link to the sites without the frames and regardless of what it's meant for, the issue is what it is doing.

So if I were to use uPhoneHome, how do I set this as my home page, umm you can't and maybe if you had an iPhone you'd know that, but at least your friend should of known that. So what I need to do if I want to continually use uPhoneHome is add this page to my bookmarks, but wait a sec, did I say "add to my bookmarks"? All the links to my iPhone favorites (THAT I, NOT EVERYONE, LOVE) are all here, IN MY BOOKMARKS. Selecting a specific page in my bookmarks is much faster than loading your "app" and scrolling through every iPhone-related link that people have suggested.

All these links and more can be easily found on the applications section of this website and users can pick and choose what they want and add them to their bookmarks PLUS a description of the page. On your "app" I can't tell what most of these do unless the name is self-explanatory. And why would I want every link to iPhone "app" pages? I don't have a link to every PC or Mac "app" on my computer, do you?

You have sort options that don't give any information on how things are sorted after you sort them (date sort doesn't list the dates and category sort doesn't list the categories)

A user can't customize it, at any given time their favorite link can be moved or removed without them knowing and it takes longer to select a page using this than selecting it in your bookmarks.

Maybe this feedback can help improve your "app" or whatever you want to call it.

If you find uPhoneHome and web pages like this useful, that's great. My problem is with people who create link pages and call them apps and people who steal content from other pages and display it as their own.

I can't wait till non-web apps start being developed so that when they come out, we can call web pages "web pages" again.

ADDENDUM: uPhoneHome is sneaky! By placing linked web apps in a frame, users can't get the web address of the actual web app to add to their bookmarks! So users of uPhoneHome have to link through their page. Hmm.. I'm interested to see what they plan on next.

[Doc Holiday]

van

thanks for the cool find. Having all those assembled in one place is quite helpful to us new iPhoners. Been happily using Macs for 22 years which has nothing to do with this issue cause your find and post were helpful to iPhone. App, portal, thingy, widget, who cares what it is -- its helpful and makes using iPhone better.

ya'll chill

Glad you find this useful. Let me ask you this, do you use all of those web apps? Wouldn't be nice to have just the web apps you actually use in one convenient location and displayed as what they are? I'll let in on a secret, it's called BOOKMARKS. It's the little book icon on the bottom of Safari. Take the web addresses of those web apps that you use and add them to your bookmarks. You can even give them custom names to describe them. But wait, uPhoneHome won't let you do that because they have hidden the actual web address by placing the web app in a frame. Isn't that suspicious to you? Why would they do that?

Why should I care what uPhoneHome and "web apps" like this are called? Because it's misleading for one. A links page is not an iPhone app. It's just a page being viewed on the browser with links on it like any other web page. You don't play games, search databases, remotely control your computer (these examples are iPhone apps). Secondly web apps like this are taking other people's content and displaying it as their own. Did you know the web apps displayed on uPhoneHome are not theirs? Perhaps you did. Did you notice when you click on an app, uPhoneHome's menu bar is at the top? You might not care, but what if you developed a web app and uPhoneHome linked it without permission and started using it for their own purposes and benefit would you care then?

I hope you understand the point I'm trying to make. I'm glad you're enoying your iPhone. I know i am! :laugh2:

[GQmacguy]

LOL you're on a rampage Doc! :wink: I agree with you on the whole misleading "apps" vs "link" thing. Apps are all those items that uPhonehome is portal-ing to. Hopefully people will begin to understand the difference between the two.

Now, that being said, I do want to state that Apple themself have said there will be no SDK for the iPhone as of right now and for the forseeable future. Anything that is written for the iPhone has to be coded and run in Safari, hence a web "app"; so we can actually can call them apps :tounge:

BUT I agree, LINK PORTALS ARE NOT APPS...

[GQmacguy]

But to the web coder that just posted: nicely done page. It does look WAY better than the other sites out there that list all those apps. Nice clean and iPhone-ish.

[azcats1]

Very nice link

[vansouza]

Says iPhone Applications on the home page, so I for one will continue to call them that. I don't care if it is a menu structured application that runs other applications so long as I can get what I want to run when I need it to run... God bless those making these apps for us who do not have the skill to do it for our selves. We can't all invent visicalc.