Tom Tom is here

[eplchamps0304]

Tom Tom navigation software is out. It is only available in NZ at the moment. The pricing for USA Canada is $125. They can go to hell.

[ZR_Yancy]

I'm not gonna be purchasing that app anytime soon. That price is outrageous! I know it may come with hardware but still. I can buy a standalone GPS unit for less than that.

[Napoleon_PhoneApart]

You can get a refurbished TomTom 130 for $49.99 after $20 mail-in rebate from Newegg.

I just bought a refurbished TomTom XL 330s with TTS for $99 from them. Works great. I was also able to download the latest maps using the TomTom HOME 2 software.

[aknightstale41]

Tom Tom navigation software is out. It is only available in NZ at the moment. The pricing for USA Canada is $125. They can go to hell.

lol, that's actually cheaper than what was leaked last month.

[MileHighRob]

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lol, that's actually cheaper than what was leaked last month.
Yes, significantly too.

[eplchamps0304]

Correction. That's is in NZ$. In US $ it's 80 bucks. Let's wait and see what it does that the others don't do.

[gotzaiPhone]

apparently its in the Australian store now, so I'm guessing a time zone thing??

[djwindsor]

Anything less than $100 will be nice, but it still doesn't compare to having a stand along unit with TTS for $99! The only thing you're paying for is the convenience of having one less gadget. I still think it will be a good seller. People will like the convenience. BUT... when you think of that extra piece of hardware, how does that differ from just having a stand alone unit? Makes no sense to me. I'll pass...... Napoleon..thanks for the heads up. I own a Tom Tom XL330 without TTS. Somehow I scratched the front screen pretty bad so I may just want to get a nice BRAND new one :)

[Youngbinks]

I'm glad I picked up my Garmin around Christmas last year and didn't wait around.

[Napoleon_PhoneApart]

Yeah - I've been weighing the pros and cons of having a turn-by-turn navigation app on my iPhone for some time. I just don't want my iPhone locked into that task in my car when I might have to take a call. Also, the volume of my iPhone isn't sufficient to overcome the volume of my radio at the volumes I usually use.

Therefore, I've decided to go the separate GPS unit route.

[Youngbinks]

Yeah - I've been weighing the pros and cons of having a turn-by-turn navigation app on my iPhone for some time. I just don't want my iPhone locked into that task in my car when I might have to take a call. Also, the volume of my iPhone isn't sufficient to overcome the volume of my radio at the volumes I usually use.

Therefore, I've decided to go the separate GPS unit route.

I completely agree with that. I don't want to have to deal with grabbing the phone while driving to attempt and see who is calling and the volume would certainly be an issue as well.

Also, there are still areas where the GPS on the iPhone is quite sub-par whereas my Garmin can always pinpoint my exact location.

[Europa]

I'm going to be getting a stand alone Garmin or Tom Tom instead as well. The app is just not worth it IMO due to cost, extra hardware required/recommended, and use of it ties up the phone. I also don't really like how apps like this cause extreme heat on the phone when used for extended periods of time.

Initially I was thinking a stand alone will also be better in that you're going to have better coverage areas since the stand alones use satellites and the apps require a cell signal. But then after thinking about it, I'm not sure if this is true if you have the Tom Tom iPhone hardware since it has an independed GPS. Because it has this independent GPS chip, do you think it will continue to work when you lose your AT&T signal and drop to no service?

Either way, I'm going with a stand alone.

[ct2k7]

AYEEEE is slow :(

[eye-Fone]

I'm glad I have built-in navigation in two of my three automobiles. The third car? I don't need nav.

[termleech]

TomTom is going to have a hard time convincing people to spend $100 on their app when there are other apps for much cheaper in the store that IMHO are just as good. I've got the Navigon app and I'm VERY happy with it. I'm glad I decided to get it and not wait for TomTom.

[chris]

I think it's hard to compare this to a standalone GPS unit. To do so, I think you need to include the price of the mount, which I haven't seen. If it includes an antenna, speakerphone and hands-free dialing, it's going to be at least $75-$100.

I've been using the Palm Pre's GPS, which is great, but there are times it cannot find a signal. I have a feeling it would be more of the same with the 3GS, if you don't go for he mount.

I think the complete package does look great, just think a standalone might be better for me. I opted for a refurbed Garmin 885t.

[naviwilliams]

I like TomTom, I even have one! But, at the same time, $99.99 for the iPhone version. Are you serious? Rhetorical, of course.

And, that's just SOFTWARE you're paying for...

[drockx]

well with the price being a little ridiculous for what you're actually getting, does anyone know if there is anywhere that you can find iphone apps on p2p or torrent? Or do apps not transfer from iphone to iphone?

[Napoleon_PhoneApart]

We don't discuss cracked apps here. Thanks.

[chris]

well with the price being a little ridiculous for what you're actually getting, does anyone know if there is anywhere that you can find iphone apps on p2p or torrent? Or do apps not transfer from iphone to iphone?

Please review our forum policy (http://www.everythingicafe.com/forum/how-to-guides-forums/everything-icafe-forum-policy-6737.html).

[up10ad]

We don't discuss cracked apps here. Thanks.
You just want to be a moderator so bad, doncha? DONCHA?

[Napoleon_PhoneApart]

You just want to be a moderator so bad, doncha? DONCHA?

Yes, sir. Yes, sir!

Am I being enough of a sycophant for you? :ok:ok

[wildonrio]

I bought this app immediately with no reserversation whatsoever. Am I crazy?

[chris]

I bought this app immediately with no reserversation whatsoever. Am I crazy?


You tell us.:dft012:wink Have you given it a test drive yet? Share some screenshots when you do.

[BigCiX]

question...does the screen rotate for the original 3G or it's only for the 3GS?

[skipere]

According to Gizmodo :
Confirmed: TomTom's GPS Car Kit Will Work with iPod Touch, Third Party Apps

Mon, 17 Aug 2009 11:40:58 -0
Good news: According to Yann Lafargue, PR guy at TomTom, the incoming TomTom GPS Car Kit will work with the iPod touch , enabling full GPS capabilities in Apple's smart multimedia player:
Oui, je confirme et il fonctionnera avec un iPod Touch ou d'autres logiciels de navigations concurrents. Pour la disponibilité, je ne peux pas répondre.
It will work with the iPod touch and other competing GPS (iPhone OS) software. I can't comment on availability.
In other words, the car kit contains a full GPS, which apparently will not only work with the iPod touch, but also replace the iPhone's GPS with a faster, more accurate unit. [ Mac4ever (http://www.mac4ever.com/news/46850/application_iphone_tomtom_repond_a_mac4ever/) via Macenstein (http://macenstein.com/default/) ]

[wildonrio]

You tell us.:dft012:wink Have you given it a test drive yet? Share some screenshots when you do.
I'm still at my office, I'll test it out at lunch when I go home.

[Prelector]

And how about live traffic info? Does it display any live traffic info, will it reroute based on live traffic conditions? Can't find anyone mentioning this yet.

[firewire]

TomTom is going to have a hard time convincing people to spend $100 on their app when there are other apps for much cheaper in the store that IMHO are just as good. I've got the Navigon app and I'm VERY happy with it. I'm glad I decided to get it and not wait for TomTom.
I've messed around with the Navigon app and what's up with it's address input? First off it doesn't let you physically write in the address you have to choose from like cross streets. This is NYC for crying out loud. What if you don't know the cross street? Isn't that the point of the GPS? I don't know I wasnlt too fond of it at all.

[wildonrio]

Ok I tried out TomTom. I wasn't blown away or anything, but it was simple and intuitive. The graphics aren't very cool, it's all just very dumbed down and easy. It did everything I wanted to, however. Found the address quickly, routed me there correctly with voice instructions. I was holding my phone in my lap also, and the GPS signal stayed strong. I'll have a more valid opinion after the next few days but my initial reaction is, it's fine. I actually like Garmin's software a lot better, but it didn't look like they were developing any iPhone software so I took the plunge with TomTom.

Also, I would have taken screenshots but there's nothing to see really. It's just the map view we're all familiar with, and the menu option screenshots you can see on iTunes.

What I'm wondering now is, will they charge to update the maps? There are no options in the menus for in app purchases for map upgrades or anything.

[up10ad]

Got it last night, will test it tomorrow on my 2.5 hr trip to Meeker. This will test how good the maps really are.

[btitus]

You can get a refurbished TomTom 130 for $49.99 after $20 mail-in rebate from Newegg.

I just bought a refurbished TomTom XL 330s with TTS for $99 from them. Works great. I was also able to download the latest maps using the TomTom HOME 2 software.

That is a great deal. Might have to look into that! I really enjoyed having turn by turn navigation on my Treo using Sprint Navigation. I am soooo annoyed that there are so many "basic" features missing on the iphone that other less sophisticated phones have as standand features...:dft007:angry

[Napoleon_PhoneApart]

I don't fault Apple or AT&T for not having free turn-by-turn navigation on the iPhone. I'd rather use a dedicated unit, anyway, and my 3GS gives me so much more than other phones I've had.

My sister's LG Lotus from Sprint has free TBT navigation, and while it works pretty well, the small screen and insufficient volume make it useless, in my opinion.

[eye-Fone]

Got it last night, will test it tomorrow on my 2.5 hr trip to Meeker. This will test how good the maps really are.
That's a relatively easy route (http://www.bing.com/maps/default.aspx?v=2&FORM=LMLTCC&cp=39.394514~-108.122864&style=r&lvl=8&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&phx=0&phy=0&phscl=1&rtp=pos.38.7447901815176_-108.070869594812_Delta%2C%20CO__~pos.40.0373842567 205_-107.907164990902_Meeker%2C%20CO__&rtop=0~0~0&encType=1) to navigate! There aren't many alternate routes to consider. :dft012:wink

Let's see TomTom show some really complex navigation algorithms (like Los Angeles, Boston, Seattle, etc.)

[up10ad]

The route is easy but the test will be to see how well they map the lesser used roads around Meeker and elsewhere in the boonies. Trust me, I've had dedicated units that got lost as soon as we hit town. I understand that a test in a busy city with variable routes will tell you other things, but my test will tell me a lot about the maps.

[djwindsor]

I got the APP for evaluation and I've used it for an entire day. The program loads MUCH faster than Navigon and the time to acquire a GPS signal is faster too. The graphics are typical Tom Tom though a little more sparse than their dedicated units. The switch to go from day to night view is much quicker than Navigon. Come to think about it, I forgot if Navigon even has a night time feature. Since I've deleted it, I can't go back and check. Another nice feature is the ability to see a listing of the route on the Tom Tom. I had Navigon 1.0 and that did NOT have it. Not sure if they updated it in 1.1. Navigon had a lot of icons for national chains scattered about the map. There was no way I could see to make them go away. I don't care if there is a Staples down the block, but as you're driving you see their logo. I am sure it was some sort of logo placement scheme with revenue going to Navigon for the free publicity. Same as the icons of McDonalds in my Prius built in Nav. The route calculations are quick however the trip lengths I was taking were no greater than 30 miles so it should be fast to compute anyway. The voice quality is EXCELLENT!!! Don't let anyone tell you otherwise. I could not tell the difference from my dedicated Tom Tom and the iPhone. I set the voice to British English as I like the way she sounds. "Go straight off!!!". As opposed to American vernacular, "Go Straight!!! (no funny comments please!!). There is an option to turn on/off their IQ routing. This is some type of methodology developed by Tom Tom to provide an optimum route at a specific time of day bearing in mind traffic conditions. I didn't like it, so I turned it off and set the iPhone to ask me each time I plan a route if I want FAST, SHORT etc. I still haven't played around with the POIs and I plan to do a comparison of the stand alone unit and the iPhone unit. Another nice thing is that the map does keep up with frequent turns and it recalculates when you go off the route very, very quickly. Truth be told, if I wasn't looking at the unit, I'd swear I was using the dedicated Tom Tom. The maps work landscape and portrait and the transition is quick. Overall, I like it very much and would never go back to the Navigon even with their trademark lane assist feature and cool 3D view of the sky and roads. The menu functions are easy as pie and very Apple iPhone like. There is no way you need a manual as it is so simple to use. Now the decision everyone will have to make is if they want to spend close to another Benjie on the hardware. I don't think it is worth it. I drove all over today and the only time I lacked an adequate signal fix was driving on the lower level of the Verrazano Bridge (connects Brooklyn with Staten Island). Only issue I have is that the price is not commensurate with what you're getting. Yes, I do realize development time translates into dollars but I can't imagine it was that complex that they have to charge $100!!! I really think they are pricing themselves out of the market. Time will tell. More later when I do some more testing. Questions?? Please feel free.

[eye-Fone]

I set the voice to British English as I like the way she sounds. "Go straight off!!!". As opposed to American vernacular, "Go Straight!!!.
What other "dirty talk" does she know? :004:drooling

[iNinja]

If the gps holder / receiver works with 3rd party apps does that mean it would work with the Navigon app? I have bought that and apart from the load time, im really happy with it. I do however need a windshield mount, and I might just buy that if you can purchase it as a standalone.

Any news on the holder yet? Doesnt appear on the tomtom iPhone website? I would have thought if the app is that expensive it should be heavily discounted for people who have bought the app and around $60 - $80 otherwise? Ideas?

[eplchamps0304]

Two things I feel make navigon better
1. Lane guidiance- this is very important when driving in a totally strange area. It helps me take the correct exit and stay in the most suitable lanes. Tomtom lacks this.

2. Signpost display. Navigon displays the same signs you would see on the highyway large and very clear. Tomtom displays a small text on which way to go.

[iNinja]

I hope this isnt going to be the price tomtom charge for the mount alone... Im really hoping that this company is just being one of those idiot companies that try to rip people off with pre orders...

http://www.handtec.co.uk/product.php/2126/tomtom-for-iphone-inc-mount

[up10ad]

That's over $187 US! ^^^^^^^

[chris]

If you put it in the cart it's 99 Euros, which is $125 US. Not that I'm buying it, but simply passing along the pricing.

Bundle is $225.

[iNinja]

If you put it in the cart it's 99 Euros, which is $125 US. Not that I'm buying it, but simply passing along the pricing.

Bundle is $225.

Is that not plus tax though? what a rip off!! I cant believe this. Im not buying it. Navigon and a standalone holder...

[RossMc]

When I first seen the mount on that website I thought it was the mount and mabey a redeemable code to be able to download the software for free but then I seen at the bottom

No software included this will only be avaliable via iTunes :|

[eplchamps0304]

In my opinion if you pay that much for a mount that is dependent on a particular software, on a particular phone, then you want to be ripped off. A regular brand name mount without a gps chip goes for as high as $30. Tomtom will charge at least $50 for the mount. The total is $$$.

[gotzaiPhone]

Two things I feel make navigon better
1. Lane guidiance- this is very important when driving in a totally strange area. It helps me take the correct exit and stay in the most suitable lanes. Tomtom lacks this.

2. Signpost display. Navigon displays the same signs you would see on the highyway large and very clear. Tomtom displays a small text on which way to go.

Agreed, both extremely important features IMHO.

[azsprty]

I have been waiting for this like everyone else but all I read is one negative review after another on itunes and other sites. Guess I will pass and if I really need on I will spend a little extra and get a nice Garmin

[up10ad]

OK, did my test this morning. Not a test of the navigation capabilities specifically since my route only had a handful of turns, but it was long and covered everything from Interstate to small town roads.

I was able to put the iPhone in my breast pocket and it maintained GPS just fine.
Hearing the instructions was sometimes a bit tough even with the radio at the minimum volume needed to listen to talk radio.
It showed my position off the Interstate at least 4 times for periods up to 15-30 seconds, even in areas where there have been no hwy changes in decades.
The iphone got very warm after about 15 minutes of use, but not overly hot.
I received two calls while enroute. The return to Tom Tom was seamless and automatic, and GPS re-linked within seconds.
Before leaving I charged my iPhone overnight and turned off 3G, WiFi and Bluetooth. By the time I travelled the 133 miles (2hrs 20 min) to my destination, my battery hit bottom. When the low battery warning displayed it stopped the app until I acknowledged it, then Tom Tom resumed.
This last issue may be problematic for long trips w/o a charger in the vehicle. I can't imagine how much quicker it would drain the battery with 3G and Bluetooth enabled, but that may be the ticket for hearing the turn instructions better.

Worth $100? Maybe I'll get Navigon and try it on the way home. Reports seem to suggest it is very nice.

[ox-boy]

UK iPhone members

Clinton Cards selling 2 x £15 iTunes vouchers for £20

Makes TomTom app £40!!!

[eye-Fone]

Thanks, Rick, for the informative play-by-play review.

You mentioned you may try Navigon. How does one go about applying for a refund on either on of those apps (or any app, for that matter)? I've heard that getting refunds on apps from the AppStore is close to impossible.

[Youngbinks]

At this point I'm glad I went with the Garmin unit. $225 for the bundle is just a bit ridiculous, considering the low prices of stand-alone units these days.

[hitrho5]

According to Gizmodo :
Confirmed: TomTom's GPS Car Kit Will Work with iPod Touch, Third Party Apps

Mon, 17 Aug 2009 11:40:58 -0
Good news: According to Yann Lafargue, PR guy at TomTom, the incoming TomTom GPS Car Kit will work with the iPod touch , enabling full GPS capabilities in Apple's smart multimedia player:
Oui, je confirme et il fonctionnera avec un iPod Touch ou d'autres logiciels de navigations concurrents. Pour la disponibilité, je ne peux pas répondre.
It will work with the iPod touch and other competing GPS (iPhone OS) software. I can't comment on availability.
In other words, the car kit contains a full GPS, which apparently will not only work with the iPod touch, but also replace the iPhone's GPS with a faster, more accurate unit. [ Mac4ever (http://www.mac4ever.com/news/46850/application_iphone_tomtom_repond_a_mac4ever/) via Macenstein (http://macenstein.com/default/) ]

Okay, here's the pricing for TomTom in the US iTunes App Store. There are 4 different apps that each provide navigation for a different region.

Australia - $79.99
New Zealand - $94.99
US & Canada - $99.99
Western Europe - $139.99

Good thing I don't need it. And to those of you that do, good luck contemplating.....

[Tinman]

Captain Obvious to the rescue! ;)


--
Mike

[Inverted]

OK, did my test this morning. Not a test of the navigation capabilities specifically since my route only had a handful of turns, but it was long and covered everything from Interstate to small town roads.

I was able to put the iPhone in my breast pocket and it maintained GPS just fine.
Hearing the instructions was sometimes a bit tough even with the radio at the minimum volume needed to listen to talk radio.
It showed my position off the Interstate at least 4 times for periods up to 15-30 seconds, even in areas where there have been no hwy changes in decades.
The iphone got very warm after about 15 minutes of use, but not overly hot.
I received two calls while enroute. The return to Tom Tom was seamless and automatic, and GPS re-linked within seconds.
Before leaving I charged my iPhone overnight and turned off 3G, WiFi and Bluetooth. By the time I travelled the 133 miles (2hrs 20 min) to my destination, my battery hit bottom. When the low battery warning displayed it stopped the app until I acknowledged it, then Tom Tom resumed.
This last issue may be problematic for long trips w/o a charger in the vehicle. I can't imagine how much quicker it would drain the battery with 3G and Bluetooth enabled, but that may be the ticket for hearing the turn instructions better.

Worth $100? Maybe I'll get Navigon and try it on the way home. Reports seem to suggest it is very nice.

I am so impressed with Navigon that I wont even bother trying TomTom. Navigon works too well for me to try anything else at this point. I have used CoPilot, Sygic, and Telenav/ATT Navigator. CoPilot wouldnt pick up my GPS signal for the entire half hour drive to work, while maps would just fine. Sygic for some reason would never load the North American map even though I had the North American version. Telenav for the iPhone is just horrible, I have it for my Blackberry and swear by it, on the BB only that is lol. Navigon is right on the money, I love the popups for fast food, gas, starbucks etc, the voice guidence is right on. I love the exit picture pop ups and lane guidance. If I get ahold of TomTom to test I will but I wont pay for it no way.

[Napoleon_PhoneApart]

Bully for you.

[up10ad]

You having a bad day my friend? ^^^^

[eplchamps0304]

What's the point if showing POI on the map when you can't click on them to reveal what they are? I would like it to actually show what it is when you touch it like in copilot.

[Napoleon_PhoneApart]

You having a bad day my friend? ^^^^

My comment was directed at his last sentence.

[firewire]

I was looking at Tom Tom Western Europe for when I do my travels and I was a little disappointed Greece wasn't included. Greece is Western Europe politically but Eastern Europe geographically. I guess by their title they meant location wise. Now I have to wait till they come out with an updated version.

One thing I'll give to Navigon is that they included the whole continent of Europe for a similar price to what Tom Tom charges only they offer half the countries. Kind of ridiculous if you ask me.

I do like the US version better on the Tom Tom though than Navigon. I had problems finding easy addresses on Navigon where Tom Tom found them right away.

[djwindsor]

Thanks, Rick, for the informative play-by-play review.

I've heard that getting refunds on apps from the AppStore is close to impossible.

Not true. I got a refund for Sim City as the first version was buggy and never worked right. Consumers don't realize how much power they yield when they purchase something with a credit card. It's called CHARGEBACK. If you buy something that does NOT work, you're entitled to a refund. Trust me, I don't know where you heard it from but you CAN get a refund. I have the exchange of emails to prove it, but I think you guys believe me anyway. :ok:ok

[djwindsor]

For those on the fence deciding whether to buy Navigon or Tom Tom here is my spin on it. I would definitely go with the Tom Tom because I think their company is committed to making sure the APP is updated. I can assure you that TTS is coming very soon. I bet they are reading every one of the comments posted on Apple. As an aside, has anyone ever read some of those reviews? It is frightening to think that these people are able to function as humans. Alright.. back to my comparison. Navigon pulled out of the NA market for a reason. It was already saturated with too many players. Anyone who bought PNDs from them MAY not be able to get map updates. I haven't done research, but I am wondering indeed if they are going to provide updates. This begs the question, will they bill diligent in updating the software for the iPhone. Early on, it seems they may since they have addressed many short comings with a very quick 1.1 release. The IQ routing on Tom Tom was confusing to me at first but now I understand why it takes you on a slightly different route (based on historical data to avoid traffic). Tom Tom will undoubtedly bring more goodies to the table over time than Navigon (just my gut feeling). Right now I consider the Tom Tom a better program because of the following important reasons:

1- TT loads MUCH faster and locks onto the GPS signal and holds on to it for dear life. No so with Navigon. You can fart and it loses the signal and takes like 15-30 seconds to regain it.
2- Text listing of your trip is available to view on TT... not on Navigon 1.0
3- Accessing frequent functions is quicker on TT than Navigon.
4- Choosing different types of routes is much easier on TT. When set up properly, the TT will ask you FAST, SHORT etc whereas on the Navigon it is a laborious process of menu digging to change to a shortened route.
5- Detours, travel via, avoid areas is MUCH easier on the TT.

Lastly before I get too winded (I tend to do that) is that when you are approaching a junction/split the TT does its usual thing where it keeps zooming so that you can see where you have to go. On the Navigon I did notice their lane guidance scheme but I was annoyed that the same picture of the sign and where you have to go stayed on too long.
6- TT reroutes WAY faster than Navigon
7- Voice is clearer on TT and though she can be annoying, she gives thorough instructions whereas the lady on Navigon is kind of shy. Alright.. I have to make a sandwich for dinner. Let me know if I can help anyone decide if there is something I failed to cover.

[Ramesh]

For those on the fence deciding whether to buy Navigon or Tom Tom here is my spin on it. I would definitely go with the Tom Tom because I think their company is committed to making sure the APP is updated. I can assure you that TTS is coming very soon. I bet they are reading every one of the comments posted on Apple. As an aside, has anyone ever read some of those reviews? It is frightening to think that these people are able to function as humans. Alright.. back to my comparison. Navigon pulled out of the NA market for a reason. It was already saturated with too many players. Anyone who bought PNDs from them MAY not be able to get map updates. I haven't done research, but I am wondering indeed if they are going to provide updates. This begs the question, will they bill diligent in updating the software for the iPhone. Early on, it seems they may since they have addressed many short comings with a very quick 1.1 release. The IQ routing on Tom Tom was confusing to me at first but now I understand why it takes you on a slightly different route (based on historical data to avoid traffic). Tom Tom will undoubtedly bring more goodies to the table over time than Navigon (just my gut feeling). Right now I consider the Tom Tom a better program because of the following important reasons:

1- TT loads MUCH faster and locks onto the GPS signal and holds on to it for dear life. No so with Navigon. You can fart and it loses the signal and takes like 15-30 seconds to regain it.
2- Text listing of your trip is available to view on TT... not on Navigon 1.0
3- Accessing frequent functions is quicker on TT than Navigon.
4- Choosing different types of routes is much easier on TT. When set up properly, the TT will ask you FAST, SHORT etc whereas on the Navigon it is a laborious process of menu digging to change to a shortened route.
5- Detours, travel via, avoid areas is MUCH easier on the TT.

Lastly before I get too winded (I tend to do that) is that when you are approaching a junction/split the TT does its usual thing where it keeps zooming so that you can see where you have to go. On the Navigon I did notice their lane guidance scheme but I was annoyed that the same picture of the sign and where you have to go stayed on too long.
6- TT reroutes WAY faster than Navigon
7- Voice is clearer on TT and though she can be annoying, she gives thorough instructions whereas the lady on Navigon is kind of shy. Alright.. I have to make a sandwich for dinner. Let me know if I can help anyone decide if there is something I failed to cover.

I would love to read this post and your other post. Can you please use the return key a few times? Makes it easier to read. ;)

[naviwilliams]

...so, does everyone say this is worth getting? I'm off to Panama Beach this weekend, and I'm trying to decide, do I take my TomTom One XL,or just get the TomTom for y iPhone.

Honestly, the money we all spend on gadgets!

[Tinman]

Right now it seems most reviews are rather negative.



--
Mike

[iNinja]

I wouldnt buy it at all, if you are going to buy it, id wait to see if there is any sign of an update 1st. Should be quite well publicised.

[eplchamps0304]

...so, does everyone say this is worth getting? I'm off to Panama Beach this weekend, and I'm trying to decide, do I take my TomTom One XL,or just get the TomTom for y iPhone.

Honestly, the money we all spend on gadgets!

if you already have a good stand alone gps, there is no need to rush and buy any gps app right now. You are better off waiting until all the developers have ironed out the kinks and adequately updated their apps. One thing that is common with all these apps is that they are all missing something that the other one has. I have used Navigon, Igo,Copilot,TomTom, Sygic. The top two would be Navigon and TomTom. The only problem I have with navigon is the actual map design, it's hard to read. However I like how navigon displays logos of major businesses. On tomtom it's just a bunch of generic pics. You can't tell what Resturant is ahead, or what gas station. Also tomtom needs to display the overhead street signs and lane guidiance. I can't believe they didn't already do this.

[wildonrio]

I don't like how TomTom doesn't tell you what side of the street the destination is on. My Garmin does this and it's really convenient so you know what lane to be in. If you don't know the side of the street, half the time you'll be in the wrong lane and end up passing it.

[eplchamps0304]

I don't like how TomTom doesn't tell you what side of the street the destination is on. My Garmin does this and it's really convenient so you know what lane to be in. If you don't know the side of the street, half the time you'll be in the wrong lane and end up passing it.

Very true. The other day I was driving down a commercial strip looking for a business. I knew my destination was about 100 meters ahead, but I had to decide if I wanted to go left or right. I ended up going left and the business was on the right.

[aknightstale41]

^^i agree, even gmap tells you what side your destination is.

[ZR_Yancy]

I'm still using G-Map because hasn't failed yet. These newer apps don't have enough to convince to replace it.

[aknightstale41]

Same here, was hoping TT would have it all...let's see what comes in an update, and the reviews of the gps mount.

[mike546]

Does the TomTom store the maps on your phone or down load them as you go? I had a Pre with the sprint GPS and it wouldn't work if you didn't have a cell signal to down load the maps. It worked fine around town but when I was out in the country it wouldn't.

[Napoleon_PhoneApart]

The maps are stored locally on the iPhone.

[Aetherhole]

I got it and I am very pleased with it. It is quick to respond, quick to recalculate, quick to pick up the GPS signal and it's very accurate, for me. The only complaint I have, goes along with everyone else's complain - vocalizing street names. That would help even more.

I like being able to play music while this app is running. Instructions interrupt the music and the music pauses and then continues without a hitch. Being able to turn off the screen is nice, too. Saves on battery life. I like being able to just listen to the directions, which was my main reason for getting this app.

I am glad I bought this and I look forward to getting the car adapter.

[wildonrio]

Being able to turn off the screen is nice, too. Saves on battery life. I like being able to just listen to the directions, which was my main reason for getting this app.

Wait a min, how are you able to turn off the screen? If I do that, the app stops working and when I look at it it says "Poor GPS signal". I think it's because sleeping the phone causes the location services to turn off. Are you just turning down the brightness?

[eplchamps0304]

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Actually this is annoying. I prefer the navigon method where the music keeps playing.

[Tinman]

I don't and would imagine Navigon will fix that in an update. When I tried it I missed several prompts because they came at a time when the music was loud.

All my music-playing GPS units lower the music during voice prompts.


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Mike

[djwindsor]

In most navigation apps (including car units) the music is usually muted to give voice instructions. When you are listening to music on your iPhone and you get a phone call the music pauses then resumes after the call. Would you like the music to play when you're on the phone? Honestly I can't see how this is a shortcoming. I definitely want to hear what the lady has to say.

Yes.... You can put the Tom Tom in sleep mode and it still gives you turn by turn instructions while the screen is dark. At least for me that's how its been working. Really nice if you are on a long trip and want to conserve battery power.

[eplchamps0304]

The music keeps playing at a lower volume when there is a voice prompt. This is similar to what happens when you have a stand alone gps unit and are playing music through you car stereo system.

[wildonrio]

Yeah I don't like how TomTom completely cuts the music. A nice gentle volume fade for each instruction would be so much cleaner.

[Aetherhole]

Yep, since I don't have the car adapter there is no good place to put my phone where I can see it without totally looking away from the road, so I just put it in sleep mode (pressing the power button) and it still gives me directions.

I definitely prefer having the music mute then give directions so this is a big bonus and nod to the TomTom for me.

[wildonrio]

Yep, since I don't have the car adapter there is no good place to put my phone where I can see it without totally looking away from the road, so I just put it in sleep mode (pressing the power button) and it still gives me directions.

I definitely prefer having the music mute then give directions so this is a big bonus and nod to the TomTom for me.
That is so weird that you can sleep your phone and still get instructions. Why would it work for you and not me? Are you jailbroken?

[eplchamps0304]

Yeah I don't like how TomTom completely cuts the music. A nice gentle volume fade for each instruction would be so much cleaner.

Like I said.

[Aetherhole]

Nope, not jailbroken.

As to the gentle volume fade, I think it definitely would be nice to have an option for one or the other in the options menu to cater to people's preference, but again, I prefer it completely muting it so it doesn't matter too much to me if they don't add the option.

[eplchamps0304]

That is so weird that you can sleep your phone and still get instructions. Why would it work for you and not me? Are you jailbroken?

I also sleep my phone and get instructions. The thing is that after a while the gps signal is lost.

[Aetherhole]

I've not had the signal lost even during sleep mode.

[JimP]

How much memory does the US/Canada set of maps consume?

/Jim