iPhone the best phone ever ? I DONT THINK SO!!

[mr.reggaeton72]

WHY IS THE IPHONE CALLED THE REVOLUTIONARY PHONE THAT CHANGED EVERYTHING ?

Why is the iphone been called the revolutionary phone ?, if you look at it into detail, its actually the worst phone every made. I have had 2 iphone 3g, and i do not see why is the iphone been called the best phone ever, personally the iphone is overrated.

The iphone is a phone that has literally nothing. When the iphone was first launched, i wanted Apple to do themselves a favor and take back what they said about the iphone been the best phone every made.

The iphone has a 3.0 megapixel camera, i mean come on, The Sony Ericsson Satio has 12.1 Megapixels. The samsung f700 has 5 megapixels. In camera the iphone has the worst camera ever on the market rigth now. It doesnt even supports flash and the video recordings are recorded in VGA, thats the worst recording camera quality there is!!

Apple just recently made an Ad about Cut Copy & Paste, Are you serious ?, they make it look like the iphone is the ONLY phone in the world that has that feature, i dont think they know that Cut Copy & Paste has been around for like, what ? 10 years ?

AT&T, Apple and MMS, Is the iphone the only phone on the market that does not support MMS ?, i do understand that the 3.0 OS already supports it, but this is a feature that was suppose to be on the iphone 1st version. And now they were bragging there MMS like it was the first phone in the world that supported MMS.

Im sure that we love how safari renders pages in its full, But every internet page out there has something that runs on JAVA, and of course, again, the so called BEST PHONE IN THE WORLD, doesnt support it.

Bluetooth is something that everybody loves, and when im with my friends hanging out and they want a song or picture i have, im actually embarrased that my iphone cannot send files over bluetooth, while the phone that my friend had which is the Motorola V197 that is about 5 years old has this ability.

Im not beating down on the iphone, and i personally like it just to listen to music and make calls. But it still lacking wayyy to many features that other OLDER phones already have, like WebCam to be able to make Video Conference, Flash for camera, JAVA, Higher Megapixels in camera, and wayyy more stuff that is lacking.

Imagine the iphone without any apps. It would be the worst phone ever created. it really bothers people to see a company name there product ''THE BEST'' while it doesnt even stand up to expectations that even the simplest phones have.

Apple now wants to launch a new iphone with every new feature that they could think of that is lacking on the iphone, recently i was reading and article about Apple ordering 3.2 to 5 megapixel lens for a new iphone that might be coming later this year, and of course this means another iphone in the market.

We have to admit that the installation of faster processors is a good idea, and putting more memory to expand it to 32 gb was pretty neat, Im not hating on apple because i personally have an iphone and recently had an ipod touch, but why people that overrate there products ?, calling them the best in the market right now, when there are dozens of other products that beat them in each of there aspects.

[ZJH90]

I'm not quite sure what you were hoping would come of this post, but thanks?

[The Apple]

Name a phone device that is better than iPhone and tell us why it is better. It is easy to focus on the negative aspects of something. Try to put this device side by side with the device you think is superb, and detail out the points. I truly believe iPhone is revolutionary and the best phone device on the market. There are things that need to be worked on with it though. When you name the devices you think are superior, we will tell you what needs to be changed and improved with them.

[macscac]

congrats!!!
enjoy your "not the worlds best phone"

i however, took pictures of my blackberry bold last nite so that i could put it up on ebay because i ADORE my 3gs.

[mr.reggaeton72]

sony ericsson satio(every negative aspect i mentioned here..im going to put them side by side with this phone

12.1 megapixel camera - 3.0 megapixel
webcam for video conference of 2 megapixels - iphone does not
share files by bluetooth - iphone does not
java for web pages - iphone does not
32 gbs of memory - same as iphone
MMS( a long time ago) - iphone still doesnt support it(cause of ATT)but it should have support it since iphone 1st gen

It comes unlock for any carrier
has the same music capabilities..video capabilites

i think it beats the iphone for a lot

and of course the basics which every phone has

cut copy and paste
tethering
and everything u can think of

[mr.reggaeton72]

however, you uploaded them to EBAY because of an application that was built...iphone didnt come with that app...imagine if iphone didnt have any apps..that it just had the norrmal apps that it has...i dont think u will be saying ''iphone the best phone in the world''

[macscac]

seriously.
you dont like the phone. great.
you keep saying "if it didnt have apps, we wouldnt say its a great phone"
perhaps.
but IT DOES HAVE APPS.

duh. what retard uses a cellphone to create an ebay auction when they have a computer in the same room?
you?

go make love to your sony.

[aggieman]

If I wanted a phone that ran boring ole S60 I'd go with the N97. Good luck getting continued support and development on a Sony Ericsson phone. Been there done that with the Xperia. It just now gets a firmware update to get it working decently after almost a year.

I've had just about every phone out there and I'd never classify the iPhone as the worst. It and the Pre are the two best devices on the market right now.

And don't read so much into megapixels. The 5mp Nokia n82 is still the best cameraphone on the market.

[mr.reggaeton72]

yes ur right, i never said the iphone was the worst phone, i just said i think its overrated. and perhaps you should look at this website if you think that the nokia n82 is the highest phone in megapixels

http://www.mydigitallife.info/2009/06/01/new-sony-ericsson-satio-idou-with-121-megapixel-camera-with-intuitive-touch-focus/

not every phone that is made is sold on the US...im from dominican republic, and the phone company over there do not require a contract for phones, you basically use pay what you use, its just like a calling card, you put in and you use it and when its gone its gone...

all of the phones that are made ship over there because they do not require a contract...they are all unlocked, and since every phone in the US is required a contract, some companies like sanyo, sony and other, see a better opportunity selling unlocked phones to everybody rather then sticking with only 1 company...and its true...why stick with 1 company when you can have all of them..all that is required is a SIM card..

[PapaST]

good write up... thanks for the perspective

[KabaModern]

Sorry to burst your bubble, but a higher megapixel count means nothing. You, unfortunately, sir, are sucked into the Megapixel Myth.

Google:
http://www.google.com/search?q=The+Megapixel+Myth

And one of the top hits:
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/02/08/technology/08pogue.html

Just an FYI. So that argument is out the window.

[Circpro]

ok so you don't think its the "BEST" phone ever, but let's step back and call it what it really is... THE BEST MARKETING CAMPAIGN EVER....

I was a long time Treo user turned iphone user simply because I was given an ipod touch... Everyone is entitled to their own opinion...

Speaking of Java...back to my Starbucks Java Frappuccino Ice Cream.....

[mr.reggaeton72]

ok so you don't think its the "BEST" phone ever, but let's step back and call it what it really is... THE BEST MARKETING CAMPAIGN EVER....

I was a long time Treo user turned iphone user simply because I was given an ipod touch... Everyone is entitled to their own opinion...

Speaking of Java...back to my Starbucks Java Frappuccino Ice Cream.....

Yes is true it is the best campaign ever..an I did not say that the iPhone is a bad phone...but that is overrated as the best phone which is not true..the iPhone is defenetley a good phone but I'm just saying dat it's not the best phone as how it's advertised

[mr.reggaeton72]

FIY...I have already read this...an probably u should try telling dat to apple..since there the ones bragging about there 3.0 megapixel so cool auto focus camera..

[aggieman]

yes ur right, i never said the iphone was the worst phone, i just said i think its overrated. and perhaps you should look at this website if you think that the nokia n82 is the highest phone in megapixels

http://www.mydigitallife.info/2009/06/01/new-sony-ericsson-satio-idou-with-121-megapixel-camera-with-intuitive-touch-focus/

not every phone that is made is sold on the US...im from dominican republic, and the phone company over there do not require a contract for phones, you basically use pay what you use, its just like a calling card, you put in and you use it and when its gone its gone...

all of the phones that are made ship over there because they do not require a contract...they are all unlocked, and since every phone in the US is required a contract, some companies like sanyo, sony and other, see a better opportunity selling unlocked phones to everybody rather then sticking with only 1 company...and its true...why stick with 1 company when you can have all of them..all that is required is a SIM card..

Dude I think you totally didn't comprehend my post. And I know all about unlocked phones. I've had about every Nokia n series, e series you can imagine as well as the samsung innov8 which had an 8mp camera. I don't give 2 sh@ts about megapixel count. If that is what you are basing your camera quality rankings on you are poorly mistaken and need to educate yourself. I'll take a 4mp standalone camera over any cameraphone out there. You are forgetting to take into account many factors. By your reasoning I guess the 12 mp Satio is higher quality than my Nikon D60

here you go you need this link. http://www.firstglimpsemag.com/editorial/article.asp?article=articles%2F2008%2Ff0501%2F22f0 1%2F22f01.asp

again I'll stand my my claim all around the n82 is the best cameraphone money can buy. Even better than the N86 8mp. The xenon flash on the n82 vs dual LED on N86 give it the advantage. And I'd be willing to bet they both have a higher quality lens than the satio. I don't know of any phone with a camera good enough to make that be my main factor in buying a phone. Oh and as far as unlocked I've had many but I just don't buy the BS about why lock yourself into a contract. I'm gonna pay for service and data no matter who I'm with! And the iPhone is unlockable although the 3gs isn't yet. I've got a unlocked Bold, storm or N95 if I need a different sim while in Mexico or elsewhere

[aggieman]

FIY...I have already read this...an probably u should try telling dat to apple..since there the ones bragging about there 3.0 megapixel so cool auto focus camera..

compared to what they had it's a definite improvement. In fact I took my N95 on my vacation with me last week and took pics with both. Point and shoot quality? No. Decent enough for the average person to snap a quick shot? Indeed. In fact I think these pics are above average for a phone.


http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j187/jaskinner76/iPhoneUpload-3.jpg?t=1246911305
http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j187/jaskinner76/iPhoneUpload-2.jpg?t=1246911447
http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j187/jaskinner76/iPhoneUpload-4.jpg?t=1246911554

[mr.reggaeton72]

wow very interested indeed..a very decent quality, at first i though it was ur house..i was just about to ask for an invitation :)

[mr.reggaeton72]

Dude I think you totally didn't comprehend my post. And I know all about unlocked phones. I've had about every Nokia n series, e series you can imagine as well as the samsung innov8 which had an 8mp camera. I don't give 2 sh@ts about megapixel count. If that is what you are basing your camera quality rankings on you are poorly mistaken and need to educate yourself. I'll take a 4mp standalone camera over any cameraphone out there. You are forgetting to take into account many factors. By your reasoning I guess the 12 mp Satio is higher quality than my Nikon D60

here you go you need this link. http://www.firstglimpsemag.com/editorial/article.asp?article=articles%2F2008%2Ff0501%2F22f0 1%2F22f01.asp

again I'll stand my my claim all around the n82 is the best cameraphone money can buy. Even better than the N86 8mp. The xenon flash on the n82 vs dual LED on N86 give it the advantage. And I'd be willing to bet they both have a higher quality lens than the satio. I don't know of any phone with a camera good enough to make that be my main factor in buying a phone. Oh and as far as unlocked I've had many but I just don't buy the BS about why lock yourself into a contract. I'm gonna pay for service and data no matter who I'm with! And the iPhone is unlockable although the 3gs isn't yet. I've got a unlocked Bold, storm or N95 if I need a different sim while in Mexico or elsewhere


hey i totally understood your post...and i myself had also have my couple of dozens of cellphones...all mostly sony ericssons...i know dat the megapixel count doesnt matter on the quality of an image...only on its size...but hey...i like to know...how did this post get to been from 'iphone not been the best phone ever'...to a discussion about megapixels :gasp:

[aggieman]

wow very interested indeed..a very decent quality, at first i though it was ur house..i was just about to ask for an invitation :)

Lol I wish man. That was the spa outside my room on my vacation last week. I very much treated it like my house for a week!!

[styfle]

I'm not even reading his post...
Is there a way to block a thread to make it look like its deleted for me?

[aggieman]

hey i totally understood your post...and i myself had also have my couple of dozens of cellphones...all mostly sony ericssons...i know dat the megapixel count doesnt matter on the quality of an image...only on its size...but hey...i like to know...how did this post get to been from 'iphone not been the best phone ever'...to a discussion about megapixels :gasp:

I think everyone was thinking you were stressing camera as the thing that makes the iPhone inferior. I used to be a huge S60 fan until the iPhone came out. As apple has continually refined the iPhone I have began to like S60 based phones less an less. Really the main thing the iPhone is now lacking is multitasking and with the 3GS there is no reason for this omission. Bad Apple! But the whole experience in general I think the iPhone wins overall just slightly over the awesome Palm Pre. This is all my opinion of course and all the debate is in good fun :) seriously though I feel like the 3GS is a whole new device. I love having my iPod/psp/phone/email/work calendar all in one device. Sure others do that but in my opinion none do it as well. Pre has the potential though.

[mr.reggaeton72]

yes indeed i love having all my stuff in one...and is true, apple has refined the iphone little by little, and i hope to see more stuff like WebCam, REMOVABLE BATTERY :d:d:d:d..and plenty of other stuff, but hey, you and me think the same, because when i saw the iphone 3g i immediatley changed it for my previous phone which was a 5 megapixel sony ericsson k850, which didnt take very good pics,

but hey, i dont think that im the only one who thinks that the iphone camera is kinda bad, even apple thinks its kinda bad, cause after the 3GS..there planning on making another iphone with higher megapixels...i think u and i should talk to apple about no matter how high the megapixel is on a camera, it doesnt change the quality,

look at the post below

http://www.iphone-hacks.com/2009/04/04/apple-ordering-32-and-5-megapixel-camera-sensors-for-iphone/

[monkeysrock0622]

yes indeed i love having all my stuff in one...and is true, apple has refined the iphone little by little, and i hope to see more stuff like WebCam, REMOVABLE BATTERY :d:d:d:d..and plenty of other stuff, but hey, you and me think the same, because when i saw the iphone 3g i immediatley changed it for my previous phone which was a 5 megapixel sony ericsson k850, which didnt take very good pics,

but hey, i dont think that im the only one who thinks that the iphone camera is kinda bad, even apple thinks its kinda bad, cause after the 3GS..there planning on making another iphone with higher megapixels...i think u and i should talk to apple about no matter how high the megapixel is on a camera, it doesnt change the quality,

look at the post below

http://www.iphone-hacks.com/2009/04/04/apple-ordering-32-and-5-megapixel-camera-sensors-for-iphone/
Im pretty sure Apple knows that its not just MP that count when making a good camera, but most people still think that which is why they need to keep updating the size to make people think it has a better camera. No one will buy a device just because they say it takes better pictures, they need some kind of specs.

Now, the iPhone as a whole, it is fantastic. Things like bluetooth and Java and webcam, none of those are a necessity. Most people don't need them which is why the iPhone is so successful. If they were popular features the tons of people use all the time, then the iPhone would have failed (or maybe not, since it doesnt have mms which is big too). You can't decide how good a phone is solely on the features that it lacks. You have to look at what it does have too. Other phones might have some of the same features, but what makes the iPhone so great is how well those features are implicated.

[unnecessary]

So where does this leave the iPhone?




Still the best selling phone to date.

/end

[mr.reggaeton72]

yes indeed is true what you say..most people out there just buy cameras depending on the megapixel capability that it says...and im sure that they will be able to make a better camera for the iphone(not just megapixel but also quality and HD video recordings and probably a xenon flash)..and yes is also true what you said that there are some features like webcam that are not needed...even if it had one...it would not work because theres no carrier in the US that currently supports that( i think, but im sure for ATT)

but there are many features that lack the iphone that are needed...JAVA IS NEEDED BADLY...most of the websites in the world run java...

but anyway...ur mostly right and i have to agree with you..the iphone has the same exact amount of features that everybody wants...for a normal user that just play games and make calls the iphone is the best..but for a user that is more "up to date" with technology like me and you:)...its missing some stuff that im sure are coming soon

[Spikey911]

I agree somewhat with the OP.

I had a Tmobile Dash (Windows Mobile), it was great at the time, but WM is very utilitarian in design. It gets the job done, but not very smoothly.

My son then bought an Ipod Touch and the browser just blew me away. Far better than anything I had ever seen on a mobile device.
The games are fantastic, better than the usual Java things I had seen.

Days later I had a used unlocked Iphone 2g in my hands. Loved it at first, but then began to realize I could not stream my internet radio while I browsed the net. I then found out I also could not have AIM running in the background..Pretty much useless.
I also found out that some of my favorite emulators did not exist such as Atari 2600, Commodore 64, etc.. Found out no Slingbox app existed at that time.
Became real disappointed in the phone.

Right now 3.0 has started me back to liking the Iphone a little better with push notifications, I think thats a real good step in the right direction.
MMS is finally here, that also helps.

However I feel the Iphone has so much more untapped potential.

Best phone? No, but I don't know of anything comparable.........Good Phone? Yes

[mr.reggaeton72]

yes indeed..i totally agree with you..you have a point..the iphone has a lot to be done before it can be called the BEST PHONE IN THE WORLD...now...the iphone is a pretty amazing fun phone, but its lacking some basic features that were suppose to be there in the first place..most of those features were responded in the 3.0 update..the iphone has a big amount of potential to be the best phone in the world..but right now it has a long way to go...

[Napoleon_PhoneApart]

I think everyone was thinking you were stressing camera as the thing that makes the iPhone inferior. I used to be a huge S60 fan until the iPhone came out. As apple has continually refined the iPhone I have began to like S60 based phones less an less. Really the main thing the iPhone is now lacking is multitasking and with the 3GS there is no reason for this omission. Bad Apple! But the whole experience in general I think the iPhone wins overall just slightly over the awesome Palm Pre. This is all my opinion of course and all the debate is in good fun :) seriously though I feel like the 3GS is a whole new device. I love having my iPod/psp/phone/email/work calendar all in one device. Sure others do that but in my opinion none do it as well. Pre has the potential though.

Then tell your buddies in the Pre forum that Gathomblipoob is not a troll! Jeesh! :smile:

[Napoleon_PhoneApart]

I agree somewhat with the OP.

I had a Tmobile Dash (Windows Mobile), it was great at the time, but WM is very utilitarian in design. It gets the job done, but not very smoothly.

My son then bought an Ipod Touch and the browser just blew me away. Far better than anything I had ever seen on a mobile device.
The games are fantastic, better than the usual Java things I had seen.

Days later I had a used unlocked Iphone 2g in my hands. Loved it at first, but then began to realize I could not stream my internet radio while I browsed the net. I then found out I also could not have AIM running in the background..Pretty much useless.
I also found out that some of my favorite emulators did not exist such as Atari 2600, Commodore 64, etc.. Found out no Slingbox app existed at that time.
Became real disappointed in the phone.

Right now 3.0 has started me back to liking the Iphone a little better with push notifications, I think thats a real good step in the right direction.
MMS is finally here, that also helps.

However I feel the Iphone has so much more untapped potential.

Best phone? No, but I don't know of anything comparable.........Good Phone? Yes

You do know now that you can jailbreak and run Backgrounder in order to stream music in the background, right?

[aknightstale41]

Sorry to burst your bubble, but a higher megapixel count means nothing. You, unfortunately, sir, are sucked into the Megapixel Myth.

Google:
http://www.google.com/search?q=The+Megapixel+Myth

And one of the top hits:
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/02/08/technology/08pogue.html

Just an FYI. So that argument is out the window.

Basically our 3.0 mp camera is no different than a 6.0 mp camera... cooool... I didn't know this.

[Napoleon_PhoneApart]

I'm a little tired of being told that the iPhone is a gaming phone. I don't play that many games on it, nor do I make that many phone calls, but I'm getting plenty of use out of it. Broaden your mind a little, Reggae...

[psylichon]

Everyone play nice. This is the sort of thread that gets closed down quickly because people take it way too seriously. Take a step back and relax, peeps. Opinions only here... no personal attacks...

[iCafe]

Im sorry i just cant take someone with the name Mr.Reggeaton seriously
that spanish music makes my ears bleed

[acosmichippo]

holy crap guys.

http://enigma.dune.net/~eric/Do-not-feed-the-troll.PNG

[Spikey911]

You do know now that you can jailbreak and run Backgrounder in order to stream music in the background, right?


Yes, but it crashes quite often

[iNinja]

I dont think that is accurate, backgrounder used to be quite stable! Might have changed since the 3.0 update though

[Napoleon_PhoneApart]

Yes, but it crashes quite often

Backgrounder has been absolutely stable for me on my 3GS.

[PapaST]

holy crap guys.

http://enigma.dune.net/~eric/Do-not-feed-the-troll.PNG


Exactly! just say interesting... and thanks for your perspective and move on. A fifth-grader can see what they're up to.

[MrMike6by9]

As someone who has used a WinMo phone for a year and a half and who loves tech ... maybe a bit too much, I can safely say that I'm still over 90% sure that I will get a GS as soon as my upgrade permits. I have never seen or heard of anything that is perfect in this life so I don't expect this phone to be different. It merely has to worth my time and money. So far, that seems to be within the realm of possibility for this current iteration.

YMMV

[rarity]

You're not beating down on the iPhone...umm okay then.

[Citsur86]

I understand your position but do not agree.

The iPhone was not called revolutionary simply for the combination of software and hardware which it is made up of, but by its enabling factors. The software, though lacking in some areas, still is more intuitive and superior in the areas of human computer interaction and information visualization than any other phone.

What further and more definately made the iPhone revolutionary was its ability to open a doorway into development focused entirely on a handheld device and in such great numbers. Sure there are people who develop for blackberry, sony ericson (maybe?), but there are many more developing for iPhone. There is a reason the iPhone has 50,000+ apps, these developers willing to develop on an SDK provided and created by Apple. The creation of iTunes and integration of video, music, apps, podcasts, etc that it allowed for while simoultaneously syncing all that to a device to use mobily is what seperates the iPhone from the group. Quoting Aladdin, because its one of my all time favorites, it truely is a "Diamond in the Rough".

[aggieman]

Then tell your buddies in the Pre forum that Gathomblipoob is not a troll! Jeesh! :smile:

oh, but you, er, he is :tounge:

[tate]

OP you need to count to 10. LOL!!!

Apple has been making phones for how long now? And Sony for how long, as for that how long has other phone companys been making them compared to Apple.
Just my view on the camera, hell if I want to take a good pic i'll just use my good camera not my iPhone. That's why they call them phones, and cameras cameras.
I just get tierd of people complaining about the dang camera on the iPhone. Sorry!! If you want to take a pic use a camera.

[Londonrockz568]

http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb161/PokerStick/Troll_spray.jpg

Yawn. You dont like the phone thats great, kudos to you.

Its an Apple product, the f700 is from Samsung, Sony Ericsson is the mp3/mobile phone branch of Sony. Comparing an American based company vs a Korean company vs a Japanese/Swedish partnership company never will make sense. Each company has their own niche and aesthetics.

12 mp vs 2/3.5mp. If you want to have great pictures that bad go buy a fkin Nikon DSLR.

Mad about its VGA recording? Go buy a Camcorder/handycam/video camera.

The iPhone IS Apple's greatest phone and acheivement outside of Personal computers or notebooks.

The copy and paste is a monumental add on since it was not present on the first gen and 3g for quite some time.

When you make an argument for future reference dont bash a product then redundant your whole argument by saying "not beating down on it". You clearly just told everyone your entire post had no point then.

IT IS PHONE/MOBILE DEVICE AT THE END OF THE DAY not a swiss army knife.

[isal]

First of all Mr. Whatever... a camera doesn't define if a phone is better. An iPhone V1 takes better pictures than a N95. And as the post above me said... if you want good photos, buy a camera.

What makes iPhone the BEST phone out there?

An amazing yet easy-to-use UI. Which is now copied by WinMo and S60, what happened? 6.5 is yet to come, but the beta doesn't look impressive and the S60 with the Nokia 5800 and the N97 FAILED badly. It was actually hard to use the Nokia 5800.

50,000 APPS across every category possible + jailbreaking. There is nothing that an iPhone can not do. From measuring your sugar levels to playing NFS Undercover (Never has there been games of such high quality on a mobile device) to streaming live music to Skype.

Even though the browser doesn't support Java, it still serves the purpose of a mobile phone's browser way past any phone in it's league. You can erase ALL your data wirelessly incase of a theft, can the Satio or any other phone do that? You can even pin-point where your phone is.

The on-screen keyboard has many advantages, go see Steve Jobs 2007 keynote speech.

iPod is the best music player without a doubt. "Genius Playlists" is an out of the world feature.

In it's league of a casual-business phone... It's a class apart.


BTW, I typed this on my iPhone... the keyboard is pretty darn good!

[terrywills]

I dont want to go to detail. First it calls iPhone not iCamera. Second it does not have pimples all over its face like all the other smartphones. And finally it's touch screen is much more fun than any other.
I am sure that I don' need to talk about its functions and fashion.

[Europa]

WHY IS THE IPHONE CALLED THE REVOLUTIONARY PHONE THAT CHANGED EVERYTHING ?
First touchscreen smartphone. Apple started it and they all followed.
Why is the iphone been called the revolutionary phone ?, if you look at it into detail, its actually the worst phone every made. LOL I have had 2 iphone 3g, and i do not see why is the iphone been called the best phone ever, personally the iphone is overrated.
IMO it has the best user interface. That goes a very long way. You could have a phone with all the specs you want, but if the UI sucks, you're not going to use it much. That's why most mobile internet browsing is done on iPhones and iPods.

The iphone is a phone that has literally nothing. Nothing? When the iphone was first launched, i wanted Apple to do themselves a favor and take back what they said about the iphone been the best phone every made. I don't think they ever said it was the best phone ever. It has a 3.0 megapixel camera, i mean come on, The Sony Ericsson Satio has 12.1 Megapixels. The samsung f700 has 5 megapixels. In camera the iphone has the worst camera ever on the market rigth now. It doesnt even supports flash and the video recordings are recorded in VGA, thats the worst recording camera quality there is!!
Learn a little bit about optics and then come back here with a valid argument. Megapixels mean almost nothing and this statement just show's you aren't very informed about cameras.
Apple just recently made an Ad about Cut Copy & Paste, Are you serious ?, they make it look like the iphone is the ONLY phone in the world that has that feature, i dont think they know that Cut Copy & Paste has been around for like, what ? 10 years ? They aren't trying to make it sound like they invented it, just that it's the first iPhone with copy paste (stock). It was something that everyone wanted so they included it and then they made an ad about it announcing the feature. What's wrong with that?

AT&T, Apple and MMS, Is the iphone the only phone on the market that does not support MMS ?, i do understand that the 3.0 OS already supports it, but this is a feature that was suppose to be on the iphone 1st version. And now they were bragging there MMS like it was the first phone in the world that supported MMS.
The phone is completely capable of MMS. It works on all carriers but AT&T and the AT&T issues with it should soon be resolved. You complaint is directed at the wrong company here. Who's to say it was supposed to be on the V1? If you want to complain about about a phone (3GS) I think you should stick to that one phone (3GS). Do you really think they are trying to convince the public that this is the first phone with MMS?

Im sure that we love how safari renders pages in its full, But every internet page out there has something that runs on JAVA, and of course, again, the so called BEST PHONE IN THE WORLD, doesnt support it.
Not included for security reasons.

Bluetooth is something that everybody loves, and when im with my friends hanging out and they want a song or picture i have, im actually embarrased that my iphone cannot send files over bluetooth, while the phone that my friend had which is the Motorola V197 that is about 5 years old has this ability.

Im not beating down on the iphone, Really????? and i personally like it just to listen to music and make calls. But it still lacking wayyy to many features that other OLDER phones already have, like WebCam to be able to make Video Conference, Flash for camera, JAVA, Higher Megapixels in camera, and wayyy more stuff that is lacking.

Imagine the iphone without any apps. It would be the worst phone ever created. Well it has Apps and even if it didn't, that's a ridiculous statement. it really bothers people to see a company name there product ''THE BEST'' while it doesnt even stand up to expectations that even the simplest phones have.

Apple now wants to launch a new iphone with every new feature that they could think of that is lacking on the iphone, recently i was reading and article about Apple ordering 3.2 to 5 megapixel lens for a new iphone that might be coming later this year, and of course this means another iphone in the market.
What's wrong with a new phone every year? Yes, technology moves that fast and makes it possible to put better hardware in every year and charge the same price.
We have to admit that the installation of faster processors is a good idea, and putting more memory to expand it to 32 gb was pretty neat, Im not hating on apple because i personally have an iphone and recently had an ipod touch, but why people that overrate there products ?, calling them the best in the market right now, when there are dozens of other products that beat them in each of there aspects.
Well the sales numbers don't lie. If it wasn't a good product, it wouldn't do so good in the market.

......................

[Griffinaz]

Name a phone device that is better than iPhone and tell us why it is better. It is easy to focus on the negative aspects of something. Try to put this device side by side with the device you think is superb, and detail out the points. I truly believe iPhone is revolutionary and the best phone device on the market. There are things that need to be worked on with it though. When you name the devices you think are superior, we will tell you what needs to be changed and improved with them.

I agree. There are lots of other phones out there that have better features but show me a single phone that has all the features of the iPhone but better. Some phones have better keyboards, great but do they also do browsing, games, etc.. with the same quality as the iPhone? There are some that probably have better games or browse better but do those phones have a great mail program also and the other capabilities of the iPhone? On and on... The reason the iPhone is held in such high regard is not because it is the best phone at everything it does (lack of flash ring a bell) but instead it is because it does a lot of things, many many more than most phones out there do, and does most of them very well. Overall it is a very good complete package without claiming to be the best phone possible at every feature it has.

[Hondamaker]

Just another troll, joining just so he can bash the iPhone. That gets so old after a while.....

[optimusprime5823]

for me i still feel iphone is the best no matter what people say

[psylichon]

Why does everyone keep correctly identifying this as a troll thread, and then continue to go into point-by-point battle? This makes no sense to me.

I personally find these sorts of threads really embarrassing for a forum of any genre, but if you all are having fun, far be it from me to be a buzzkill and close it.

[djwindsor]

Okay. I'm going to chime in since I am a newbie on this forum. I just did a search and saw lots of interesting content so I joined. The iPhone is pretty much the first smartphone I've ever owned. In the past I've had a cell phone and a PDA (Palm Pilot then a Sony unit). What I like best about the iPhone is its simplicity. Anyone can pick it up and figure it out within a few minutes. It truly is AMAZING and YES REVOLUTIONARY!!!! I looked at Blackberry and for the life of me I don't get it!! I am pretty smart but that phone has to be the most complicated piece of tech!!! Very unintuitive. I looked at the Voyager and countless others. I get bored of tech very quickly and I alway look to upgrade. Well, guess what, there still is nothing on the market that is better than the iPhone IMHO. I haven't looked at the PRE but I've read mixed reviews and lots of issues with build quality. I probably have over one hundred APPs on my phone and I never get bored while waiting in line anymore. As to the camera aspect.... Who the heck cares???? It's there and convenient if I need to take a quick photo of something. The quality is decent and with 3rd party APPS it can really make the photos look sharper. It's not megapixels but optics which allows the camera to take nice pictures. My phone is jail broken and I have Cycorder if I ever need to record video. Believe it or not, it's not bad! Still haven't figured out how to get the video files off the phone onto my MAC (anyone know??). Bottom line... the iPhone is the one to beat and no one seems to be able to catch up with it. Gotta love it!!!

[Londonrockz568]

Just another troll, joining just so he can bash the iPhone. That gets so old after a while.....

You would thing they'd learn and stop after the second iteration of the phone came out in july 08. (the 3g)

[psylichon]

London, you posted a picture of troll spray then went into a heated debate on the subject. You would think you'd learn. ;)

[Napoleon_PhoneApart]

I don't think he's a troll, just a bit incoherent...

[Londonrockz568]

A heated debate?

You have nothing else to say on the subject of his post or others yet you and the old bag target mine.

Happy Trolling.
http://pics.bikerag.com/Uploads/data/500/258Troll_spray.jpg

[ct2k7]

The iPhone, as I recall it, is the only phone on the market in which you can hotswap the SIM card without powering down the device and removing the battery.

[MrMike6by9]

The iPhone, as I recall it, is the only phone on the market in which you can hotswap the SIM card without powering down the device and removing the battery.

I'm not certain that is an admirable feature since the general consensus suggests that if the device (of whatever nature) has not finished accessing the memory card, the card might become usable, then you're hosed.

YMMV

[ct2k7]

I'm not certain that is an admirable feature since the general consensus suggests that if the device (of whatever nature) has not finished accessing the memory card, the card might become usable, then you're hosed.

YMMV

True, apart from I make SIM backups.

[dimab]

LOL. everyone put on your tinfoil hats!

[billnye97]

Imagine the iphone without any apps. It would be the worst phone ever created. it really bothers people to see a company name there product ''THE BEST'' while it doesnt even stand up to expectations that even the simplest phones have.

Um yeah when the V1 iPhone was released it didn't have downloadable apps (talking about non-JB phones) and it was still pretty cool in my book. The addition of apps is what really blew the market up. With iTunes as it's distribution any other company would be hard pressed to reach that many people.
Yes there are features that we would all like to be added but it's a pretty nice piece of tech if you ask me. I know I would really be lost without mine nowadays.

[pretty p]

id like to put in a response.....i myself was iphone hater just for the fact that everyone jumped on the bandwagon....but definitely the iphone is a great phone...but its not the best...i pretty much prefer my blackberry bold over the iphone...but then again thats because...i need the push email....i need to be able to multi task......camera wise...i dont even use the camera on either phone. the iphone is pretty much for my entertainment and i really wouldnt depend on the iphone for much because it crashes too much....but i love it though, and my kids sure do love their ipod touches.....And again....this is just my 2 cents....everyone is entitles to their own opinion right?.....enjoy ...

[ct2k7]

id like to put in a response.....i myself was iphone hater just for the fact that everyone jumped on the bandwagon....but definitely the iphone is a great phone...but its not the best...i pretty much prefer my blackberry bold over the iphone...but then again thats because...i need the push email....i need to be able to multi task......camera wise...i dont even use the camera on either phone. the iphone is pretty much for my entertainment and i really wouldnt depend on the iphone for much because it crashes too much....but i love it though, and my kids sure do love their ipod touches.....And again....this is just my 2 cents....everyone is entitles to their own opinion right?.....enjoy ...

Yes, and that's why no one can say what the best phone is, it depends, as you pointed out, mostly on their opinion.

I don't really need push, becuase I'm the reciever or puller (this sounds really wrong).

The only crashes I've seen is through applications which haven't properly been rewritten for the iPhone OS 3.0.

[pretty p]

by the way....out of those 50,000 apps....pretty much a lot of apps are pretty much the same apps made by different people....basically you have double or triple amounts of the same apps that does the same thing.

[pretty p]

you're right it all depends on the person who's using the phone. and no that didnt sound right at all ...ahah glad you caught that....

[mr.reggaeton72]

Im sorry i just cant take someone with the name Mr.Reggeaton seriously
that spanish music makes my ears bleed

so ?..i dont give f*** wat you like or dont like...and less if you cant stand me or not..wat the f*** is wrong with u..u stupid or somethin

[djwindsor]

This guy doesn't seem like he has all his gigabytes. What a SCMUCK!!

[Hondamaker]

A heated debate?

You have nothing else to say on the subject of his post or others yet you and the old bag target mine.

Happy Trolling.

Who's the 'old bag'? I gotzta know!

[Napoleon_PhoneApart]

iCafe and Mr. Reggaeton:

Please knock off the personal attacks and swearing. You both might get banned, with would probably actually please a lot of us.

[djwindsor]

Perhaps they should do that already. This thread really has no value other than he said/she said. ZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzz!!!

[2white2fight]

i think its the multi touch and i agree with whoever said its a good phone. It is, but certainly not the best. The worst part about the iphone is it drops the connection alot and goes back and forth between edge and 3g. Most annoying. All phones ive had on tmobie, att, sprint never did this. The network chip in the iphone is worrible too. But ok

[psylichon]

What's so worrible about the network chip? Are you referring to Wifi? Mine connects as fast as my Wifi will deliver.

[iNinja]

Mine too.... apart from a bug on 3.1 my wifi has been as fast as my laptop when connected through it.

[Hondamaker]

What's so worrible about the network chip? Are you referring to Wifi? Mine connects as fast as my Wifi will deliver.I dunno, Dave--what is so worrible about it? :dft012:wink

[The Apple]

I wate waving worrible wabits. Waving to be walf wammered to wack a wand weld winders my wappiness. Wa wa wa wa wa wa we we we we we we we.

[aggieman]

What's so worrible about the network chip? Are you referring to Wifi? Mine connects as fast as my Wifi will deliver.

i think he's referring to it bouncing from 3G to EDGE alot. I had that problem alot the first 6 months or so with the 3G and horrible call reception with the first iPhone, but I hardly ever see the 'E' on my iPhone anymore. My wifes 3g nor my 3GS bounce to EDGE very often.

Now the wifi, i do have issues with it. Not necessarily speed, but the range doesn't seem to be as good as with some of my other phones. The Bold and N95 both have a much better range than the iPhone. Strangely enough I've noticed my HP laptop gets better range than my MacBook.

[acosmichippo]

i think he's referring to it bouncing from 3G to EDGE alot. I had that problem alot with the first iPhone...

really?......

[mr.reggaeton72]

really?......


lol lol lol lol ...i wouldnt have noticed what he said if he wasnt for u

[mr.reggaeton72]

What's so worrible about the network chip? Are you referring to Wifi? Mine connects as fast as my Wifi will deliver.


my iphone sometimes connect to the wifi but delivers no connection, like i would connect and it would say connected and when i go to safari it would not launch and it would say NO INTERNET CONNECTION, although when i checked on my PC it did had internet, and so did my laptop, only my iphone didnt have connection

any problems like this before ?

[psylichon]

I dunno, Dave--what is so worrible about it? :dft012:wink

Read the last sentence in the post before mine.

Reggae, it sounds like you might need to set a new WEP key.

[mr.reggaeton72]

by the way....out of those 50,000 apps....pretty much a lot of apps are pretty much the same apps made by different people....basically you have double or triple amounts of the same apps that does the same thing.

ur right, apple should do something about it, theres like 100 apps that send MMS, 500 mafia games that do the same which i upgrade ur character(which is kinda boring and dumb the)..if you actually have 1 app that has 1 special function that no other app in the app store does, there would be only like 25.000 apps instead of 50.000

[aggieman]

really?......

sorry, it was early, hadn't yet had my coffee so I didn't catch on to dave's sarcasm...

[Hondamaker]

Read the last sentence in the post before mine.

Reggae, it sounds like you might need to set a new WEP key.Whoops! Now I see...

[psylichon]

sorry, it was early, hadn't yet had my coffee so I didn't catch on to dave's sarcasm...

Hehe, not what Hippo was "reallying" about... try again:

i think he's referring to it bouncing from 3G to EDGE alot. I had that problem alot with the first iPhone

[jlhollander]

So, I know i'm jumping in the deep end of a long thread, but some of the facts and statements from the OP aren't entirely correct... 32 gig? not standard. The Satio comes standard with 128mb of internal memory, thought the box includes an 8 gig micro sd card, so upgrading to a 32 gig sd would be an additional... oh, thats right. you can't buy those. The actual price of the phone isn't available yet, and since it is going to be sold unlocked, it will only be available at a ridiculous price. Not to mention the fact that it is only going to be available in some select markets in the 4th quarter of 2009, while the iPhone is available almost worldwide. And one more thing to think about, would this phone even exist if there was never an iPhone to begin with??? I think that most of the phones that are being unveiled and released in todays market are only coming to fruition out of necessity for these companies to create a competing device to attempt to take back market share from which the iphone has bitten into.

[Tinman]

iCafe and Mr. Reggaeton:

Please knock off the personal attacks and swearing. You both might get banned, with would probably actually please a lot of us.

In this case iCafe neither swore nor attacted personally. He stated he couldn't take the OP seriously and that he didn't like that kind of music. Opinions.

What iCafe did do was beat the OP at his own game. Something no one else in this thread has been able to do.

I know iCafe is disliked by many, and perhaps deservedly so. But sometimes you need to read beyond the text as written, as there is often more to it than meets the eye. It's probably why he's still here and is not banned. Or not, what do I know...


--
Mike

[aggieman]

Hehe, not what Hippo was "reallying" about... try again:

I meant to say iPhone 3G..fixed. :ok:ok

maybe i should post less from work. i don't seem to multitask well ;)

[Napoleon_PhoneApart]

In this case iCafe neither swore nor attacted personally. He stated he couldn't take the OP seriously and that he didn't like that kind of music. Opinions.

What iCafe did do was beat the OP at his own game. Something no one else in this thread has been able to do.

I know iCafe is disliked by many, and perhaps deservedly so. But sometimes you need to read beyond the text as written, as there is often more to it than meets the eye. It's probably why he's still here and is not banned. Or not, what do I know...


--
Mike

Perhaps I should reconsider my statement, since I could have sworn that iCafe had more than one post in this thread. Maybe I'm getting senile...:dft008:suprised

[Big T]

I had a big long post easy to pick holes when the answer is jailbreak it LOL
or spend even more money to get basic functions to work.

jailbreak it can you take your mobile back to any apple store after you do "NO".

My TP-LINK WR841N v2 router does not work now iphone after update
and yes try looking at other forums.

I am one of many who's iphones do not work the way it should after the 3.0 update, and yes it will work on basic routers.
apart from the above "N" series

http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=2044754&tstart=15

[acosmichippo]

Wow, that's a lot of misinformation packed into one post.

[iNinja]

Wow, this post is really really misleading...Please see my answers in read below

one quick answer Nokia97 and many others

it works you don't get ripped off backing up your own music your own pictures your own video you can make your own ringtones or message alert it does what it says.
How do you get ripped of backing up your music? It is the most simple device to sync with. You just plug it in and sync.. all your music is on the phone. Its THAT simple. You can also add your own ringtones to the Iphone, whilst there are many Jailbreak options for message tones.

iphone gives you bluetooth mmmmm still 3.0 does not work with all basic bluetooth that works with every other cheap phone.
The iPhone has never claimed to transfer files via bluetooth, however 3.1 software enables music control va bluetooth and the iPhone can stream music via bluetooth also.

does iphone wifi or bluetooth let you move music to another phone thats not the same model of phone or anything worth having can it transfer a ringtone that the owner made up not in or from itunes.
The iPhone has never claimed to do this - therefore its not a failure of the device, just a feature that isnt included. Can your N97 sync with iTunes or download apps via the app store? No. That doesnt mean the N97 is a failure, it means it hasnt got that feature enabled.

with wifi next to Phone sitting on router I get 1 bar
before 3.0 I got alot of routers around me in the same area after 3.0 I get 1 and i have to be within 10 yards.
This is most likely an individual fault, I have 3.0 and 3.1 and a white iPhone 3gs - my signal is superb. Try a restore or take it into a genius who will provide without question the best aftersales service of any large company.

can I store my own work on phone and transfer to my own pc without paying $99 mobile me a year "NO".
maybe affter a jailbreak.
There are several cheap app store apps that enable you to do this. It is effortless

They should change the name of iphone 3G or 3GS to IRIP OFF 3G or 3GS.
It does not say if you buy this phone there is a 98% chance it might not work with your router the wifi range is dropped by 89% or more you can't create your own ringtone or message alert tone in itues your battery might last as long as it says on the box as long as you keep wifi turned off and bluetooth turned off. or phone on standby.
Wow, those %'s are completely ficticious. My router works 100% fine and my battery since the 3.1 update has lasted 32% longer with 3g / wifi / bluetooth on all day. (Those %'s are also made up, but the fact is my router is fine, as is all other routers i connect to, and my battery since the 3.1 update is a lot better. Again, if the N97 had the same feature list and screen as the iPhone, the battery life would be the same...this isnt an iPhone failure, its just that battery technology isnt being developed as mobile tech.

you might be able to use an ipod dock that fits your iphone without removing the protective case you bought for it "not very many".
If you buy a protective case you should see if one of its features is "use in a dock without removing" - such as the incase slider. If you buy a bulky case this isnt the docks fault it wont fit. Again, to use the n97 as an example, if i bought a slick case for that then it would fit, if I bought a larger one, it wouldn't

and the baw breaker of all like most people on the plannet if you get your computer infected by a virus in 99% of most cases you have to do a full format to make sure you get rid of virus.
By "baw" i presume you mean jaw...so ill base my response on that.... Mac's at the moment do not get virus' - get one of those. Seriously though, how is that the iPhones fault? If you download a virus because you have inadequate virus protection that is your fault. Good antivirus software lets you remove a virus without a restore, if you know how. Also, you really should keep your files backed up. Worst case scenario, you have to restore (becasue you havent got virus software good enough or you have downloaded a virus because you lack the skills to download legal software, then use a 3rd party program to transfer your data from your phone to your computer after the restore.

you get 5 chances with your own paid for apps to get them back cause the drm in itunes thinks your trying to copy oyur own stuff LOL.
What the hell does that even mean?? Seriously, use some grammer.

If your like me you update your machine new processor graphics card whatever most of the time its better to scrub your system to get a clean system if you change your motherboard itunes thinks its another computer thats 2 out of 5 chances gone do this another three times you have nothing all that money you paid for down the plug hole.
it maybe £0.59p to £5.99p times that by 80 or more apps and its alot of money lost.
Are you being serious? You can unauthorise a computer by going into your iTunes account. You really should do your homework.

does that answer your ?

It worked on TP-LINK WR841N v2 router does not now after update

Seriously, this is one of the worst posts I have ever read on these boards. Your spelling, punctuation and grammar are horrible, but the worst part is you make up facts and percentages without any real knowledge of the subject you are talking about. If you did even 30 mins research into the points you have raised you will realise that most of them are incorrect.

[Napoleon_PhoneApart]

Wow, this post is really really misleading...Please see my answers in read below



Seriously, this is one of the worst posts I have ever read on these boards. Your spelling, punctuation and grammer are horrible, but the worst part is you make up facts and percentages without any real knowledge of the subject you are talking about. If you did even 30 mins research into the points you have raised you will realise that most of them are incorrect.

This guy Big T has to be a computer illiterate 15 year old.

Anyone older than that with even a shred of self respect wouldn't have pushed the submit button on that post.

[MrMike6by9]

Many thanks for your calm refutation of the OP's misinformation. :ok:ok

However, you made one very small faux pas. It's grammar not grammer. :dft001:embarrassed

[aggieman]

one quick answer Nokia97 and many others

it works you don't get ripped off backing up your own music your own pictures your own video you can make your own ringtones or message alert it does what it says.

iphone gives you bluetooth mmmmm still 3.0 does not work with all basic bluetooth that works with every other cheap phone.

does iphone wifi or bluetooth let you move music to another phone thats not the same model of phone or anything worth having can it transfer a ringtone that the owner made up not in or from itunes.

with wifi next to Phone sitting on router I get 1 bar
before 3.0 I got alot of routers around me in the same area after 3.0 I get 1 and i have to be within 10 yards.

can I store my own work on phone and transfer to my own pc without paying $99 mobile me a year "NO".
maybe affter a jailbreak.

They should change the name of iphone 3G or 3GS to IRIP OFF 3G or 3GS.
It does not say if you buy this phone there is a 98% chance it might not work with your router the wifi range is dropped by 89% or more you can't create your own ringtone or message alert tone in itues your battery might last as long as it says on the box as long as you keep wifi turned off and bluetooth turned off. or phone on standby.

you might be able to use an ipod dock that fits your iphone without removing the protective case you bought for it "not very many".

and the baw breaker of all like most people on the plannet if you get your computer infected by a virus in 99% of most cases you have to do a full format to make sure you get rid of virus.

you get 5 chances with your own paid for apps to get them back cause the drm in itunes thinks your trying to copy oyur own stuff LOL.

If your like me you update your machine new processor graphics card whatever most of the time its better to scrub your system to get a clean system if you change your motherboard itunes thinks its another computer thats 2 out of 5 chances gone do this another three times you have nothing all that money you paid for down the plug hole.
it maybe £0.59p to £5.99p times that by 80 or more apps and its alot of money lost.

does that answer your ?





It worked on TP-LINK WR841N v2 router does not now after update

FAIL.

I have the N97 and it is a joke.

it has to be the clumsiest, worst implemented touch screen phone I've ever seen. Even the Xperia X1 which only lasted 2 days with me was better.

Resistive touch? Please. Half the touches don't even register.

The keyboard sucks, it really really sucks!

Battery is a dog. Worse than the Pre's.

Sure the browser supports flash, but other than that it is slow, clunky, outdated.

Everything on the N97 or S60 in general always has so many extra steps. Sure the hardware is great with the camera and speakers and there are alot of features, but it always pisses me off to no end trying to use the damn thing. I like my N95-4 and liked my N85 alot better.

And like the others said, alot of misinformation in your post regarding the iPhone.

[iNinja]

Many thanks for your calm refutation of the OP's misinformation. :ok:ok

However, you made one very small faux pas. It's grammar not grammer. :dft001:embarrassed


Ummm no, i was talking about Kelsey Grammer. :dft011:wicked_smile

Arghhh I cant believe I was calling out this guy for his poor spelling and grammar, and i made that mistake!!
*hangs head in shame whilst editing post*

[aggieman]

Ummm no, i was talking about Kelsey Grammer. :dft011:wicked_smile

Arghhh I cant believe I was calling out this guy for his poor spelling and grammar, and i made that mistake!!
*hangs head in shame whilst editing post*

LOL it happens. At least you can blame it on the iPhone keyboard :ok:ok

[Napoleon_PhoneApart]

Ummm no, i was talking about Kelsey Grammer. :dft011:wicked_smile

Arghhh I cant believe I was calling out this guy for his poor spelling and grammar, and i made that mistake!!
*hangs head in shame whilst editing post*

And I actually held off in publicly ridiculing you.

[Hondamaker]

Big T = Troll.

Seems he just created that post to see what kind of responses he would get. There's no real validity to his 'facts'. Just my $.02

[iNinja]

And I actually held off in publicly ridiculing you.

I know... im impressed with your self control! :dft011:wicked_smile

[MrMike6by9]

^^^
Just soes you know, there was no ridicule intended on my part. Keep up the good work.

Peace

[iNinja]

^^^
Just soes you know, there was no ridicule intended on my part. Keep up the good work.

Peace

Ha I know, I'm not offended at all, I like a bit of banter ;)

[Londonrockz568]

I find it funny when people blame the phone because it switches from 3g to edge.
Blame your location, area, amount of buildings, interference, and then YOUR network.

The only time i go on edge is if im inside the mall, or somewhere on the outskirts of town, or in the middle of the city where sky scrapers are around.

That nokia post? lol

Reading Hippos "really?" Made my day.

[Napoleon_PhoneApart]

Speaking of Nokia:

http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/09/07/17/nokia_stock_nosedives_as_apple_gains_on_market_lea der.html

[mr.reggaeton72]

Speaking of Nokia:

http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/09/07/17/nokia_stock_nosedives_as_apple_gains_on_market_lea der.html

its amazing how only 1 single phone can make a worldwide established company like Nokia lose an average of 8.6 billion and overtake a dozen of other smartphones...while apple continues to rise year after year and gain success...it migth not be the best phone but i defenetly have to agree its the best SELLING smartphone EVER

[Napoleon_PhoneApart]

And I own one!

Actually two, but hopefully Craigslist will help me unload my 3G.

[mr.reggaeton72]

And I own one!

Actually two, but hopefully Craigslist will help me unload my 3G.

what nokias u got ?

[Napoleon_PhoneApart]

what nokias u got ?

I have an iPhone 3G and 3GS.

[mr.reggaeton72]

I have an iPhone 3G and 3GS.


oops my bad:dft011:wicked_smile...i though u meant to say dat u had 2 nokias

[jarofclay73]

My sister has bought nothing but Nokia dumbphones her whole life. She just got an iPhone 3GS and she's lovin' it!

[mr.reggaeton72]

My sister has bought nothing but Nokia dumbphones her whole life. She just got an iPhone 3GS and she's lovin' it!

looks like everybody is gettin a 3GS...i think ima have to get myself 1 too...or maybe just wait for the 4th gen iphone....jummm

[Saurabh]

The phone is aimed at dumb America and its the MOST user friendly phone to date. That is why its so revolutionary because grandma whos never touched a computer can now touch the screen of the apple iphone and make colors fly.

[Napoleon_PhoneApart]

The phone is aimed at dumb America and its the MOST user friendly phone to date. That is why its so revolutionary because grandma whos never touched a computer can now touch the screen of the apple iphone and make colors fly.

My IQ is around 140 and I stilll love my 3GS, smart ass. :dft010:smiling

[The Apple]

The phone is aimed at dumb America and its the MOST user friendly phone to date. That is why its so revolutionary because grandma whos never touched a computer can now touch the screen of the apple iphone and make colors fly.

So now it is dumb to make devices easier to use and more user friendly. It is dumb to make a product even grandma can use.

The gun made hunting easier to get needed food. That was dumb.

The automobile made travel easier for everyone. That was dumb.

The telephone made communications across the world easier. That was dumb.

The internet made getting information easier. That was dumb.

If I said what I really wanted to say here, Macgirl would give me an infraction. So saying what I would really like to say here would be dumb.

You are right.......Americans are SOOOOO dumb.



Now re-read my post above and replace the word dumb anywhere it was used with the word revolutionary. After that everything will actually make sense.

[Saurabh]

I wasnt trying to insult america. I am too american and i FALL for the iphone as a medical student. Its so revolutionary because it can be operated by anyone, compared to a windows mobile phone. DUMB IS GOOD.... sometimes ;-)

[mr.reggaeton72]

The phone is aimed at dumb America and its the MOST user friendly phone to date. That is why its so revolutionary because grandma whos never touched a computer can now touch the screen of the apple iphone and make colors fly.

That is why is the worlds #1 selling smartphone..it might not be the best phone ever...but it's UI makes it easy to use even for my 3 year old little brother

[Saurabh]

That is why is the worlds #1 selling smartphone..it might not be the best phone ever...but it's UI makes it easy to use even for my 3 year old little brother

EXACTLY that is why its to REVOLUTIONARY. It allows the ones who never learned the basics of the comouter to jump right into the iphone, which has everything one can ask for in the RIGHT amounts. Good amount of games, media, and functionality. Id call it the well rounded phone, and i have had one since the first was releases back in 07.

[The Apple]

I wasnt trying to insult america. I am too american and i FALL for the iphone as a medical student. Its so revolutionary because it can be operated by anyone, compared to a windows mobile phone. DUMB IS GOOD.... sometimes ;-)

Thanks for clarifying this. I am one american that is getting tired of people talking down about americans, so that is why I replied as I did.:dft012:wink

[Saurabh]

Thanks for clarifying this. I am one american that is getting tired of people talking down about americans, so that is why I replied as I did.:dft012:wink

No problem, sorry if my message was not clear. :ok:ok

[Londonrockz568]

So now it is dumb to make devices easier to use and more user friendly. It is dumb to make a product even grandma can use.

The gun made hunting easier to get needed food. That was dumb.

The automobile made travel easier for everyone. That was dumb.

The telephone made communications across the world easier. That was dumb.

The internet made getting information easier. That was dumb.

If I said what I really wanted to say here, Macgirl would give me an infraction. So saying what I would really like to say here would be dumb.

You are right.......Americans are SOOOOO dumb.



Now re-read my post above and replace the word dumb anywhere it was used with the word revolutionary. After that everything will actually make sense.

Americans arent dumb..... maybe a bit pudgy here and there but by no means are they dumb.

+1 Apple good reply. :D

[psylichon]

Americans arent dumb..... maybe a bit pudgy here and there

What is it with your obsession with fat people? :032:unsure

[Napoleon_PhoneApart]

What is it with your obsession with fat people? :032:unsure

I was wondering the same thing.

Maybe a fat girl dumped him.

[Hondamaker]

What is it with your obsession with fat people? :032:unsureWell, at least he didn't say Americans were ugly.....the whole kettle/pot thing would have been a riot!

[duvi]

I'm not reading through 13 pages, but how is the iPhone overrated? The things it does, it does exceptionally well.

Copy & Paste - Although it's been around, how many touchscreen devices can do it like the iPhone? Heck, what phone (including non touchscreen devices) can even undue the paste?

It's a great phone to me because:


It renders beautiful HTML email
I only paid $300 + tax
I've never needed to reboot my iPhone from the device being frozen
Threaded SMS done well
App for everything (I'll get to a statement you made about this below)
I sometimes use my iPhone for web browsing over my PC that is next to me. That's how good the browser is.


Imagine the iphone without any apps.


I must say that is one of the dumbest statements I heard in a very long time. I'll add these then:


Imagine your Satio didn't have a camera at all
Imagine your Satio didn't have a webcam for video conference
Imagine your Satio didn't share files by bluetooth
Imagine your Satio didn't support java for web pages
Imagine your Satio had 8gb of storage


Now how bright does your quoted statement sound? It has those things and so does the iPhone with the apps.


Why does the iPhone have 90% satisfaction rating?
Why is the iPhone selling 1,000,000 phones over one weekend?


But the questions that I really want answered is:


Why did you buy it?
Why do you still have it?


Research goes a long way... all these features that it has (or doesn't have) were not hidden.

[Napoleon_PhoneApart]

That's a great post, duvi, and well-written.

[mr.reggaeton72]

I'm not reading through 13 pages, but how is the iPhone overrated? The things it does, it does exceptionally well.

Copy & Paste - Although it's been around, how many touchscreen devices can do it like the iPhone? Heck, what phone (including non touchscreen devices) can even undue the paste?

It's a great phone to me because:


It renders beautiful HTML email
I only paid $300 + tax
I've never needed to reboot my iPhone from the device being frozen
Threaded SMS done well
App for everything (I'll get to a statement you made about this below)
I sometimes use my iPhone for web browsing over my PC that is next to me. That's how good the browser is.




I must say that is one of the dumbest statements I heard in a very long time. I'll add these then:


Imagine your Satio didn't have a camera at all
Imagine your Satio didn't have a webcam for video conference
Imagine your Satio didn't share files by bluetooth
Imagine your Satio didn't support java for web pages
Imagine your Satio had 8gb of storage


Now how bright does your quoted statement sound? It has those things and so does the iPhone with the apps.


Why does the iPhone have 90% satisfaction rating?
Why is the iPhone selling 1,000,000 phones over one weekend?


But the questions that I really want answered is:


Why did you buy it?
Why do you still have it?


Research goes a long way... all these features that it has (or doesn't have) were not hidden.


WTF ?..you ONLY pay 300 with tax ?..r u dumb or something cause i would prefer to do something else with MY hard earn money rather then spending it on a phone company..maybe ur some guy with no life dat all dat does is waste money on cellphones companies and have no responsibility, not like me dat have a 3 year old son that needs my attention and cannot afford to look at his dad waste 300 with tax a month for some dumb old company...go ahead brag about ur 300 with tax

Now how bright does your quoted statement sound? It has those things and so does the iPhone with the apps.


dude do you even know wat ur talking about ? the iphone does everything with the apps ?, please do me the favor of finding me an app that would enable iphone to run java on safari, please do me dat favor, ill make it easier, find me an app dat would enable video conference, smart ass


But the questions that I really want answered is:


Why did you buy it?
Why do you still have it?


i only bougth it for the ipod app, thats it, cause i dont want to be carrying an mp3 and a phone at the same time

and hey smart ass, ive been trying to sell it for about a month now, THATS WHY I STILL HAVE IT


reasearch does go a long way, maybe you should have done urs before writing this post

[diverdown]

[quote=mr.reggaeton72;491661]WTF ?..you ONLY pay 300 with tax ?..r u dumb or something cause i would prefer to do something else with MY hard earn money rather then spending it on a phone company..maybe ur some guy with no life dat all dat does is waste money on cellphones companies and have no responsibility, not like me dat have a 3 year old son that needs my attention and cannot afford to look at his dad waste 300 with tax a month for some dumb old company...go ahead brag about ur 300 with tax

Dude...Chill....I think the OP meant that he only spent $300 on the phone itself, not 300 per month on serivce....I don't know anybody that is spending that kind of cash per month.

As for selling your current iphone, the best route is to unlock it and then sell it via ebay or craigslist. You get bigger bucks for the iphone when its unlocked.

~S

[mr.reggaeton72]

[quote=mr.reggaeton72;491661]WTF ?..you ONLY pay 300 with tax ?..r u dumb or something cause i would prefer to do something else with MY hard earn money rather then spending it on a phone company..maybe ur some guy with no life dat all dat does is waste money on cellphones companies and have no responsibility, not like me dat have a 3 year old son that needs my attention and cannot afford to look at his dad waste 300 with tax a month for some dumb old company...go ahead brag about ur 300 with tax

Dude...Chill....I think the OP meant that he only spent $300 on the phone itself, not 300 per month on serivce....I don't know anybody that is spending that kind of cash per month.

As for selling your current iphone, the best route is to unlock it and then sell it via ebay or craigslist. You get bigger bucks for the iphone when its unlocked.

~S


thank you...

[Londonrockz568]

WTF ?..you ONLY pay 300 with tax ?..r u dumb or something cause i would prefer to do something else with MY hard earn money rather then spending it on a phone company..maybe ur some guy with no life dat all dat does is waste money on cellphones companies and have no responsibility, not like me dat have a 3 year old son that needs my attention and cannot afford to look at his dad waste 300 with tax a month for some dumb old company...go ahead brag about ur 300 with tax
For starters, its not $300USD a month for the phone. He wasn't bragging about the tax and as far as i can see for the price to features the iPhone is unrivaled. If you are such a struggling parent a semi-luxury smart phone should have never came into your field of vision.

Now how bright does your quoted statement sound? It has those things and so does the iPhone with the apps.

dude do you even know wat ur talking about ? the iphone does everything with the apps ?, please do me the favor of finding me an app that would enable iphone to run java on safari, please do me dat favor, ill make it easier, find me an app dat would enable video conference, smart ass

It sounds like YOU have no clue to what you are talking about with that previous statement unrelated to phones about tax. If you are so mature and so smart you would have known that he wasnt bragging about tax, a tax bracket or even that the tax is $300 a month which it isnt.

As far as the Apps you STILL dont know what you're talking about seeing as you chose the 2 things PROGRAM WISE and HARDWARE WISE that the phone cannot do or doesn't have yet. This isn't some ****ty windows mobile its a new platform, a first mobile platform from Apple. Java/Flash didnt just spawn overnight with flash on mobile phones. Your other request for an app to enable a hardware feature is irrelevant...and furthers my argument that you havent a clue about what you bring up. In any regard learn this: Software (which are basically what apps are) can only do so much in the constraints of Hardware (physical aspects of the device).


But the questions that I really want answered is:


Why did you buy it?
Why do you still have it?


i only bougth it for the ipod app, thats it, cause i dont want to be carrying an mp3 and a phone at the same time

If you only bought it for the ipod function you should have stuck with an iPod Nano/iPod Classic/iPod Touch/iPod Shuffle instead of buying an iPhone then complaining about the phone aspect of it. If a phone, 2yr contract, credit check, paying for the phone and paying the monthly bill was not in your best interest it would seem to me that a budget conscious father of a 3yr old who doesn't know much should have known that the phone despite you liking or hating it is out of your budget and should have remained with his current phone, just buying a dedicated iPod for MUCH cheaper and no contracts/credit monthly payments.

and hey smart ass, ive been trying to sell it for about a month now, THATS WHY I STILL HAVE IT
Do us a favour and dont bring up your economic status when you have already spent the money on a "semi luxury Smart Phone". There are other phones out there as you've stated before so dont all of a sudden pull the i cant afford it card. A smart parent budgets for everything. Also for future reference dont come to an iPhone based forum and bash the product that the majority has before you try to sell it.

reasearch does go a long way, maybe you should have done urs before writing this post

RESEARCH, grammar and spelling does go a long way. Maybe you should go back to grade school and learn about something extensively before you make yourself look even less knowledgeable.

[The Apple]

When you all talk about the iPhone being a luxury item I tend to disagree. Things are getting to the point where it is no longer a luxury, it is a much needed set of tools. I understand you can do without it, and there are tons of other options. I have yet to find a device that could replace this phone, the Pre is the closest that I have found. This is not an "economy" device, but it is not a "luxury" device either. When you compare it to a car like that, you see real quick that it would probably be the consumers best buy of the mid-range class. My opinion, but you know what happens to opinions around here!!!:042:steaming_pile :042:steaming_pile :042:steaming_pile

[mr.reggaeton72]

WTF ?..you ONLY pay 300 with tax ?..r u dumb or something cause i would prefer to do something else with MY hard earn money rather then spending it on a phone company..maybe ur some guy with no life dat all dat does is waste money on cellphones companies and have no responsibility, not like me dat have a 3 year old son that needs my attention and cannot afford to look at his dad waste 300 with tax a month for some dumb old company...go ahead brag about ur 300 with tax
For starters, its not $300USD a month for the phone. He wasn't bragging about the tax and as far as i can see for the price to features the iPhone is unrivaled. If you are such a struggling parent a semi-luxury smart phone should have never came into your field of vision.

Now how bright does your quoted statement sound? It has those things and so does the iPhone with the apps.

dude do you even know wat ur talking about ? the iphone does everything with the apps ?, please do me the favor of finding me an app that would enable iphone to run java on safari, please do me dat favor, ill make it easier, find me an app dat would enable video conference, smart ass

It sounds like YOU have no clue to what you are talking about with that previous statement unrelated to phones about tax. If you are so mature and so smart you would have known that he wasnt bragging about tax, a tax bracket or even that the tax is $300 a month which it isnt.

As far as the Apps you STILL dont know what you're talking about seeing as you chose the 2 things PROGRAM WISE and HARDWARE WISE that the phone cannot do or doesn't have yet. This isn't some ****ty windows mobile its a new platform, a first mobile platform from Apple. Java/Flash didnt just spawn overnight with flash on mobile phones. Your other request for an app to enable a hardware feature is irrelevant...and furthers my argument that you havent a clue about what you bring up. In any regard learn this: Software (which are basically what apps are) can only do so much in the constraints of Hardware (physical aspects of the device).


But the questions that I really want answered is:


Why did you buy it?
Why do you still have it?


i only bougth it for the ipod app, thats it, cause i dont want to be carrying an mp3 and a phone at the same time

If you only bought it for the ipod function you should have stuck with an iPod Nano/iPod Classic/iPod Touch/iPod Shuffle instead of buying an iPhone then complaining about the phone aspect of it. If a phone, 2yr contract, credit check, paying for the phone and paying the monthly bill was not in your best interest it would seem to me that a budget conscious father of a 3yr old who doesn't know much should have known that the phone despite you liking or hating it is out of your budget and should have remained with his current phone, just buying a dedicated iPod for MUCH cheaper and no contracts/credit monthly payments.

and hey smart ass, ive been trying to sell it for about a month now, THATS WHY I STILL HAVE IT
Do us a favour and dont bring up your economic status when you have already spent the money on a "semi luxury Smart Phone". There are other phones out there as you've stated before so dont all of a sudden pull the i cant afford it card. A smart parent budgets for everything. Also for future reference dont come to an iPhone based forum and bash the product that the majority has before you try to sell it.

reasearch does go a long way, maybe you should have done urs before writing this post


RESEARCH, grammar and spelling does go a long way. Maybe you should go back to grade school and learn about something extensively before you make yourself look even less knowledgeable.


first of all im not a struggling parent, thats just for starters..just wanted to make that clear


It sounds like YOU have no clue to what you are talking about with that previous statement unrelated to phones about tax. If you are so mature and so smart you would have known that he wasnt bragging about tax, a tax bracket or even that the tax is $300 a month which it isnt.

As far as the Apps you STILL dont know what you're talking about seeing as you chose the 2 things PROGRAM WISE and HARDWARE WISE that the phone cannot do or doesn't have yet. This isn't some ****ty windows mobile its a new platform, a first mobile platform from Apple. Java/Flash didnt just spawn overnight with flash on mobile phones. Your other request for an app to enable a hardware feature is irrelevant...and furthers my argument that you havent a clue about what you bring up. In any regard learn this: Software (which are basically what apps are) can only do so much in the constraints of Hardware (physical aspects of the device)


maybe u should have told this to DUVI since he was the one who said that the iphone could do anything with the apps..

If you only bought it for the ipod function you should have stuck with an iPod Nano/iPod Classic/iPod Touch/iPod Shuffle instead of buying an iPhone then complaining about the phone aspect of it. If a phone, 2yr contract, credit check, paying for the phone and paying the monthly bill was not in your best interest it would seem to me that a budget conscious father of a 3yr old who doesn't know much should have known that the phone despite you liking or hating it is out of your budget and should have remained with his current phone, just buying a dedicated iPod for MUCH cheaper and no contracts/credit monthly payments.


Please read again, I SAID that i wanted an ipod and a phone together, that i DID NOT want a separate MP3 player and a phone, that i did not want to have to carry 2 devices at the same time, that i only wanted to carry 1 device..please learn how to read before you post

Do us a favour and dont bring up your economic status when you have already spent the money on a "semi luxury Smart Phone". There are other phones out there as you've stated before so dont all of a sudden pull the i cant afford it card. A smart parent budgets for everything. Also for future reference dont come to an iPhone based forum and bash the product that the majority has before you try to sell it.

DID I EVER SAY THAT I CANT AFFORD IT ?, a good parent always sees every penny that he/she has, if i bougth and iphone is because i want an ipod and a phone together an because i can afford and i know that i will not need the money later..I DID say that 300 dollars is a lot for a phone and way more for a monthly bill, but fortunetly i didnt even pay a fraction of that..and my bill is not even close to that..if i have it is because and i can afford it and i know that my son will not need it later..IF MY IPHONE WOULD HAVE COST 300 DOLLARS I WOULDNT EVEN LOOK AT IT, but since i only bought it at 99 dollars, of course its affordable and 99 dollars is something that i wont have to regret buying later

[diverdown]

Hey guys, let's cool down before the mods need to jump in.......

~S

[mr.reggaeton72]

Hey guys, let's cool down before the mods need to jump in.......

~S

thank you..

[duvi]

Reading comprehension also goes a long way as well... I said it's a great phone to me because it was "only" 300 + tax, not the "phone plan".

I'm a manager at AT&T Mobility (not retail) and I see customers like you all the time. You just paid $200-$300 for a device and you then have to subscribe to a mandatory $30 data plan with a minimum of $40 (individual) or $60 (family) for a voice plan. You mean to tell me, paying $30 minimum more was a smarter choice then to have two devices (iPod/mp3 player and phone)? Since you are so worried about spending hard earned money, how about if you lose (or break) this device? You have just lost your 2 for 1 deal with no insurance and will pay twice the amount for the same device.

I can also tell you that the 3GS isn't that hard to sell. In fact, I wasn't even selling my 3G yet and I mentioned it to a co-worker I might and she went downstairs to the mac and handed me $350. Don't tell me it's hard to sell the 3GS, you can sell it for $500 easily, not even unlocked. So please use a better excuse next time. Once again, I work in the industry and can tell the real from the fake. I can also tell when someone is back peddling. Watch your step, so you don't trip.

PS... I have a three year old as well and two weekends ago, he asked me for an iPhone... he didn't mention the price though. I wonder if he knows it's $300+tax? :dft010:smiling

Also... I did some research and I found this page with a lot and I mean a lot of phones that can play music as well that don't require a data plan and if you pick the regular phones, the unlimited data can be half the price or more :ok:ok

http://www.wireless.att.com/cell-phone-service/cell-phones/cell-phones.jsp?feacondition=allphones&feapaytype=standard&startFilter=false&allTypes=on&feacamera=camera&feamp3Player=mp3Player&manatt=att&manblackberry=blackberry&manhtc=htc&manlg=lg&manmotorola=motorola&mannokia=nokia&manpantech=pantech&mansamsung=samsung&mansonyericsson=sonyericsson

PPS... Is the Satio even out yet? I haven't researched this device, but haven't heard of it. So it's either not in the U.S. and will cost and arm and a leg or isn't released yet. If it's the latter, how in the world are you comparing it to the iPhone?

[Napoleon_PhoneApart]

RESEARCH, grammar and spelling does go a long way. Maybe you should go back to grade school and learn about something extensively before you make yourself look even less knowledgeable.

Naw, I can't...

[duvi]

thank you..

Then why are you calling people idiots if your goal is to have everyone calm down?

HEY IDIOT...please read again, I SAID that i wanted an ipod and a phone together, that i DID NOT want a separate MP3 player and a phone, that i did not want to have to carry 2 devices at the same time, that i only wanted to carry 1 device..please learn how to read before you post

[duvi]

I find something very interesting and funny... so you have a 3 year old brother and 3 year old son? Were they born on the same day as well? Lol. :ok:ok

That is why is the worlds #1 selling smartphone..it might not be the best phone ever...but it's UI makes it easy to use even for my 3 year old little brother

WTF ?..you ONLY pay 300 with tax ?..r u dumb or something cause i would prefer to do something else with MY hard earn money rather then spending it on a phone company..maybe ur some guy with no life dat all dat does is waste money on cellphones companies and have no responsibility, not like me dat have a 3 year old son that needs my attention and cannot afford to look at his dad waste 300 with tax a month for some dumb old company...go ahead brag about ur 300 with tax

[mr.reggaeton72]

I find something very interesting and funny... so you have a 3 year old brother and 3 year old son? Were they born on the same day as well? Lol. :ok:ok


so...i have a 3 year old brother...and my son is also 3 years old...well my son is actually 2 years old he just turned 2...but i always say 3...is there a problem with that ?

[mr.reggaeton72]

Reading comprehension also goes a long way as well... I said it's a great phone to me because it was "only" 300 + tax, not the "phone plan".

I'm a manager at AT&T Mobility (not retail) and I see customers like you all the time. You just paid $200-$300 for a device and you then have to subscribe to a mandatory $30 data plan with a minimum of $40 (individual) or $60 (family) for a voice plan. You mean to tell me, paying $30 minimum more was a smarter choice then to have two devices (iPod/mp3 player and phone)? Since you are so worried about spending hard earned money, how about if you lose (or break) this device? You have just lost your 2 for 1 deal with no insurance and will pay twice the amount for the same device.

I can also tell you that the 3GS isn't that hard to sell. In fact, I wasn't even selling my 3G yet and I mentioned it to a co-worker I might and she went downstairs to the mac and handed me $350. Don't tell me it's hard to sell the 3GS, you can sell it for $500 easily, not even unlocked. So please use a better excuse next time. Once again, I work in the industry and can tell the real from the fake. I can also tell when someone is back peddling. Watch your step, so you don't trip.

PS... I have a three year old as well and two weekends ago, he asked me for an iPhone... he didn't mention the price though. I wonder if he knows it's $300+tax? :dft010:smiling

i think u should buy it to him...its always good to make ur family happy..at least i try too:dft012:wink...but 300 plus tax its too much money...why not just buy him a 3g that is 99 dollars right now..

Also... I did some research and I found this page with a lot and I mean a lot of phones that can play music as well that don't require a data plan and if you pick the regular phones, the unlimited data can be half the price or more :ok:ok

http://www.wireless.att.com/cell-phone-service/cell-phones/cell-phones.jsp?feacondition=allphones&feapaytype=standard&startFilter=false&allTypes=on&feacamera=camera&feamp3Player=mp3Player&manatt=att&manblackberry=blackberry&manhtc=htc&manlg=lg&manmotorola=motorola&mannokia=nokia&manpantech=pantech&mansamsung=samsung&mansonyericsson=sonyericsson

PPS... Is the Satio even out yet? I haven't researched this device, but haven't heard of it. So it's either not in the U.S. and will cost and arm and a leg or isn't released yet. If it's the latter, how in the world are you comparing it to the iPhone?

its not out in the US and will not sell in the US..:(...i heard that it was only out either in Spain or Tokio(i think)...but it will sell for around 700 - 1000(a big no to buy although i wish i could)

[Tinman]

...and my son is also 3 years old...well my son is actually 2 years old he just turned 2...but i always say 3...is there a problem with that ?

Actually, yes. Honesty, what a concept.



--
Mike

[KNK]

Hey TinMan how you doing. Love that plane, bet you could put a 2 yr old in the seat and he could fly it.

[Napoleon_PhoneApart]

Or maybe a three year old.

[phsycology]

Knk?!?!?!?!

[mr.reggaeton72]

Knk?!?!?!?!

?!?!?!?!...indeed

[Lincoln]

Infractions handed out as necessary - time to calm down in here. Making extensive posts in red trying to disprove another member's posts becomes very annoying, and gets you nowhere. Give it a rest. Thanks.

[KNK]

Infractions handed out as necessary - time to calm down in here. Making extensive posts in red trying to disprove another member's posts becomes very annoying, and gets you nowhere. Give it a rest. Thanks.

I see you are only a Super Moderator, when will you be a "Super Duper Moderator"???

[The Apple]

http://jyesmith.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/fight_club_soap.jpg

Welcome to the EIC fight club. As you have noticed there is a meeting in progress.

[Dustu2]

I'm going to go out on a limb and say that your horrible grammar and spelling(speaking to the OP), even though this is the intrawebs, invalidates any point that you make. =\

[Tinman]

Hey TinMan how you doing. Love that plane, bet you could put a 2 yr old in the seat and he could fly it.

Thanks. It's a lot of fun. Pricey, but that adds to the rush. You should see the really big one.

As for transporting a toddler, no problemo. I'm just waiting for someone who might volunteer a two-year-old, who was recently one, but always advertised as three. ;)



--
Mike

[mr.reggaeton72]

Thanks. It's a lot of fun. Pricey, but that adds to the rush. You should see the really big one.

As for transporting a toddler, no problemo. I'm just waiting for someone who might volunteer a two-year-old, who was recently one, but always advertised as three. ;)



--
Mike

ujum...keep waiting pal...

[iNinja]

ujum...keep waiting pal...

Hmmm, yes, that really made sense.

Mr Reggaeton, if you honestly believe the stuff you are writing about the iPhone 3GS, then please just sell it. It is certainly not difficult to sell. Ebay has around 800 iPhones listed and they are selling.

You will acheive a decent value for your iPhone, but to get the most out of it just unlock it.

You clearly are not able to like the iPhone, so instead of just critisicing it (on an iPhone forum, I might add) just stop talking about it and get rid.

Simple

[mr.reggaeton72]

Hmmm, yes, that really made sense.

Mr Reggaeton, if you honestly believe the stuff you are writing about the iPhone 3GS, then please just sell it. It is certainly not difficult to sell. Ebay has around 800 iPhones listed and they are selling.

You will acheive a decent value for your iPhone, but to get the most out of it just unlock it.

You clearly are not able to like the iPhone, so instead of just critisicing it (on an iPhone forum, I might add) just stop talking about it and get rid.

Simple

mmm...i never said dat i had an iphone 3gs...and if i did my bad..but thank you for the advice of where to sell it

[Tinman]

Otay, Panky!



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Mike

[duvi]

mmm...i never said dat i had an iphone 3gs...and if i did my bad..but thank you for the advice of where to sell it


Word? So you were comparing two phones, one of which is released, but you do not own and the other that has not been released and will probably not be on AT&T. :ok:ok

On a serious note, whatever phone you do have, whether it's a 2G, 3G or an unreleased iPhone 4G (lol), and you aren't happy, look for a new device. If you want, you can PM me and I'll help you find that device, even if it means changing carriers.

[garykirsten63]

You seem to be so angry with iPhone.But your points are absolutely right.iPhone provides so less facility than others.But something is that it is the most stylist phone in the market now in my eyes.Moreover it is more sucured than the other cell phones.

[mr.reggaeton72]

Word? So you were comparing two phones, one of which is released, but you do not own and the other that has not been released and will probably not be on AT&T. :ok:ok

On a serious note, whatever phone you do have, whether it's a 2G, 3G or an unreleased iPhone 4G (lol), and you aren't happy, look for a new device. If you want, you can PM me and I'll help you find that device, even if it means changing carriers.

thank you...i appreciate it

[mr.reggaeton72]

You seem to be so angry with iPhone.But your points are absolutely right.iPhone provides so less facility than others.But something is that it is the most stylist phone in the market now in my eyes.Moreover it is more sucured than the other cell phones.

yes..everything u said is true...it IS the worlds most stylist phone...i gotta hand it to you there..the iphone is hot and sexy:dft003:coolkid..and yes it is pretty secured

[Londonrockz568]

http://jyesmith.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/fight_club_soap.jpg

Welcome to the EIC fight club. As you have noticed there is a meeting in progress.

U broke "the" rule.

[mr.reggaeton72]

You seem to be so angry with iPhone.But your points are absolutely right.iPhone provides so less facility than others.But something is that it is the most stylist phone in the market now in my eyes.Moreover it is more sucured than the other cell phones.

although i wonder how the iphone 4g is going to look like, i hope is something different...

[Tinman]

They ain't say anyway about the V4 iPhone. Broken glass have here.


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Mike

[Napoleon_PhoneApart]

although i wonder how the iphone 4g is going to look like, i hope is something different...

Do you want actually useful upgrades, or just cosmetic upgrades?

[mr.reggaeton72]

Do you want actually useful upgrades, or just cosmetic upgrades?

useful upgrades - 85%
cosmetic upgrades - 15%

i would prefer more useful upgrades then cosmetic upgrades, but if a cell phone is hot and has a lot of features then is the right one for me:dft003:coolkid, for example, the nokia n95 is packed with features, but its hideous, ugly and really fat...and the iphone has some cool features but is lacking some other features, but its beautiful, thin and pretty..

[iNinja]

I disagree, with all apps available - infact even without - the N95 doesnt have that much more features than the iPhone 3gs.

[Londonrockz568]

Croucher lol, why? why post here. T_T

[iNinja]

Croucher lol, why? why post here. T_T

London i couldnt resist. It attracts me like a moth to a flame. ha. Right - NO MORE!!!

Also, you posted here to ;)

[Londonrockz568]

Only to save you lol.

[mr.reggaeton72]

I disagree, with all apps available - infact even without - the N95 doesnt have that much more features than the iPhone 3gs.

yea right...

[Europa]

yea right...
What can it do that a jailbroken iPhone can't do?

[mr.reggaeton72]

What can it do that a jailbroken iPhone can't do?

video conference, xenon flash, java, but let me ask you a question..

why do you even have to hack your phone, to enable features that were suppose to be intergrated into the iphone since the 1st version, ?, all of this features should be available without the jailbreak, now Apple wants to launch a new iphone per each new feature added.

i wont be surprised if the 2010 iphone finally has xenon flash,
and the 2011 iphone has the ability to send files over bluetooth
and the 2012 iphone to be able to ZOOM in on camera without having to buying some dumb old app,

and so on, an so on,

[Europa]

Java opens up vulnerabilities. Apple isn't willing to risk that.

Video conference would be cool. I'm hoping for it in next years model.

I'm sure the iPhone does things the N95 (that's also the name of a particulate respirator mask used in hospitals to protect against TB, anthrax, etc, lol) doesn't. I'm too tired to research that right now though.

Bottom line. There is no perfect phone that does everything every other phone does and manages to do it flawlessly, has a top notch UI, looks beautiful, has a good build quality, an exceptional waranty and sycning software, and is sold at a great price. Nothing achieves this, but I think the iPhone comes closest.

[Londonrockz568]

Europa, its pointless. Why bother replying to him lol.

[The Apple]

I'll just drop this right here.

:042:steaming_pile (http://www.liquidx.net/blog/2007/08/12/nokia-n95-sucks/)

Just click the steaming pile!

[mr.reggaeton72]

Java opens up vulnerabilities. Apple isn't willing to risk that.

Video conference would be cool. I'm hoping for it in next years model.

I'm sure the iPhone does things the N95 (that's also the name of a particulate respirator mask used in hospitals to protect against TB, anthrax, etc, lol) doesn't. I'm too tired to research that right now though.

Bottom line. There is no perfect phone that does everything every other phone does and manages to do it flawlessly, has a top notch UI, looks beautiful, has a good build quality, an exceptional waranty and sycning software, and is sold at a great price. Nothing achieves this, but I think the iPhone comes closest.

indeed....I agree with everything you just said...and the iPhone does have the best UI ever..at least for me..

[mr.reggaeton72]

Europa, its pointless. Why bother replying to him lol.

Ur starting to get on my last nerves..You need to mind your own damn business boy..

[diverdown]

Ur starting to get on my last nerves..You need to mind your own damn business boy..

Please keep the personal comments to the PM. Attacks like this are what get people banned and threads locked. This is a great community, lets keep it that way.

~S

[mr.reggaeton72]

Please keep the personal comments to the PM. Attacks like this are what get people banned and threads locked. This is a great community, lets keep it that way.

~S

thank you for the advice

[Hondamaker]

Please keep the personal comments to the PM. Attacks like this are what get people banned and threads locked. This is a great community, lets keep it that way.

~S
It won't be long before this thread is locked, and mr. r is banned, so just let it go.
As far as the n95, not only does it suck compared to the iPhone, but it's fugly, too!

[mr.reggaeton72]

It won't be long before this thread is locked, and mr. r is banned, so just let it go.
As far as the n95, not only does it suck compared to the iPhone, but it's fugly, too!

Well mm...not only ur extremetly wrong about me been banned because im still here..but the n95 got way more features then the iPhone..I prefer the iPhone because is softer and thinner and I really like the UI..And the n95 liked u said is extremetly "fugly"..But there's no way dat u can say dat the iPhone has more features then the n95..

[Hondamaker]

And the n95 liked u said is extremetly "fugly"..But there's no way dat u can say dat the iPhone has more features then the n95..
I didnt even imply that the iPhone had more features. More features, however, do not make a device better. Quality, not quantity.

[Napoleon_PhoneApart]

Well mm...not only ur extremetly wrong about me been banned because im still here..but the n95 got way more features then the iPhone..I prefer the iPhone because is softer and thinner and I really like the UI..And the n95 liked u said is extremetly "fugly"..But there's no way dat u can say dat the iPhone has more features then the n95..

Hondamaker didn't say that you had been banned, just that it wouldn't be too long before you are banned, A little reading comprehension can go a long way.

[mr.reggaeton72]

Hondamaker didn't say that you had been banned, just that it wouldn't be too long before you are banned, A little reading comprehension can go a long way.

Thank you V...

[The Apple]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v729/utrekker/ibtl.gif

[Hondamaker]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v729/utrekker/ibtl.gifDude, that is great! LMAO!

[Londonrockz568]

Ur starting to get on my last nerves..You need to mind your own damn business boy..

I love the irony of telling someone to mind their own business on a public forum. :010:shutup

Here's for you:005:snicker:005:snicker:
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_yFeC-Omt3c8/SK6Z1ZDjz2I/AAAAAAAAAao/IjytkOstgxM/s400/258Troll_spray.jpg

[Londonrockz568]

Nerves of lol'z IBTL

http://www.forumammo.com/cpg/albums/Upload/Upload/ban-him.JPG

http://images.icanhascheezburger.com/completestore/2008/11/29/128724433773579180.jpg

http://koti.mbnet.fi/tibe9mm/Troll_fail.jpg

[psylichon]

London, so help me if you post that troll spray picture one more time... it's not really funny, and you're doing exactly what your telling others to not do. Just knock it off.

Stop instigating each other, discuss the topic and not each other, and behave like the good little children all your mothers raised. Thanks.

[sigh] ah, it's nice to be back.

[Londonrockz568]

Ive been wondering where you were lol. How's it going, music etc. U kno u love teh troll spray its not meant for humor and i dont troll.

[mr.reggaeton72]

Nerves of lol'z IBTL

http://www.forumammo.com/cpg/albums/Upload/Upload/ban-him.JPG

http://images.icanhascheezburger.com/completestore/2008/11/29/128724433773579180.jpg

http://koti.mbnet.fi/tibe9mm/Troll_fail.jpg


i said what i had to say to you already,

[psylichon]

U kno u love teh troll spray its not meant for humor.

You know, it's really not your job to be a "troll identifier" whether you use a lame picture or not.

[Londonrockz568]

lol mr. R You are funny.

Here's a screenshot of your internets tough guy PM to me unleashing the fury.

{removed}

You made my day with your thought felt PM. Next time use Caps lock.

[psylichon]

London I asked nicely for you to stop posting in this thread unless you have something to contribute and now you're making PM's public? No! Take a hint, bro, geez...

[psylichon]

Ok, I guess it's infraction time. If this thread doesn't get back on course, it'll be thread closing time as well. Reggaeton, you are this close to a ban right now. Keep the posts unpersonal or your time here will be cut short.

[mr.reggaeton72]

Ok, I guess it's infraction time. If this thread doesn't get back on course, it'll be thread closing time as well. Reggaeton, you are this close to a ban right now. Keep the posts unpersonal or your time here will be cut short.

yes sir, but hey, you should warn other users not to mess with people they dont know, they will thank you later

[Londonrockz568]

Most of us dont know each other personally.
You are on a Public message bored.
He doesn't need to warn people who dont break the rules.
Toughen up its the internet.

My last post here tonight, time to go edit pictures i took today.

[psylichon]

Like I said. Thread closed. It's been... uh... a lot of fun, guys. Thanks.