3.1 beta

[shutter13]

Just got an email from apple that 3.1 beta is posted on the developers site. I'm in the movie Theater right now, but I'll be looking at it later. Looks like 3.1 official is just around the corner.

Added in 3.1 (I am reading these via twitter, haven't loaded it myself)
*Non-destructive video editing (trimming a video now allows you to "Save as Copy"
*Voice Control over bluetooth
*iPhone vibrates when moving icons
*Updated AT&T carrier settings to 4.2
*updated modem firmware 5.08.01

*Improvements to OpenGL and Quartz
*API's allow third party apps to access videos and edit them

Ultrasn0w users are advised to stay away from this update or you will lose your unlock.

[fsas06]

maybe its to get us ready for mms ???

[dturner]

Just got an email from apple that 3.1 beta is posted on the developers site. I'm in the movie Theater right now, but I'll be looking at it later. Looks like 3.1 official is just around the corner.
Saw it posted on Twitter a few minutes ago. Hope the final is real soon.

[bwise05]

wouldn't that be nice!

[fsas06]

on modmyi.com they said its just some bug fixes...so i dont think it will be anything big. but i dono how we could have bugs in 3.0 when it just came out like last week lol

[bwise05]

on modmyi.com they said its just some bug fixes...so i dont think it will be anything big. but i dono how we could have bugs in 3.0 when it just came out like last week lol

i know one big one was that the battery life on the 3.0 is highly affected. and the icons for the apps are not correct alot of the time.. hopefully they fix these..

[iphonewarrior]

I'm game for battery updates- well at least the power management side of things, 3.1 will hopefully solve my issues.

Thanks for letting the rest of us know shutter.

[termleech]

3.1 bug fix includes fixing that pesky jailbreaking / unlocking bug :)

I'm sure at this early in the game there is little to see in the beta's. Most of the things they push in the early beta's is the new API's in the SDK. Then towards the end we see more features. I'm pretty happy with 3.0 right now so I think I'll pass on 3.1 until I see so more about it and how buggy is may or may not be.

[dutchtrumpet]

much faster update with the 3Gs!

[TAEWING59]

MMS option for me is a go. not hacks or anything. problem is AT&T still doesn't support it :(

[iphun]

I can confirm that in 3.1 the carrier file is updated to 4.2 up from 4.0 and the mms options are back!!! Although it doesn't function since we need at&t support at least it shows we might see it soon!!

[Kuntry]

Anyone wanna set me up with a dev slot on their account :wink: My old 3G is listed on an account but I have since sold that phone. Send me PM if you want to "Hook a brother up":smile:

EDIT: Here's a question. I contacted the person who listed my 3G on his Dev account to ask if he could REMOVE my 3G UDID and add my 3GS UDID in its place and he says its not possible and wants another $10 to add my 3GS in a new slot. Is this true that you cannot remove a device from a developer account and it will free up a slot?

[shutter13]

Anyone wanna set me up with a dev slot on their account :wink: My old 3G is listed on an account but I have since sold that phone. Send me PM if you want to "Hook a brother up":smile:

EDIT: Here's a question. I contacted the person who listed my 3G on his Dev account to ask if he could REMOVE my 3G UDID and add my 3GS UDID in its place and he says its not possible and wants another $10 to add my 3GS in a new slot. Is this true that you cannot remove a device from a developer account and it will free up a slot?

No, he cannot remove yur device and replace it. He has 100 slots. If he deletes one...it isn't replaced with an empty slot. What he can do is edit your original slot to change the UDID for your new device. I did that for someone when they replaced their 3G during the beta phase.

[iphun]

No, he cannot remove yur device and replace it. He has 100 slots. If he deletes one...it isn't replaced with an empty slot. What he can do is edit your original slot to change the UDID for your new device. I did that for someone when they replaced their 3G during the beta phase.

Oops I removed my 3G not realizing it would make me lose a slot. Oh well I won't miss it.

[Kuntry]

No, he cannot remove yur device and replace it. He has 100 slots. If he deletes one...it isn't replaced with an empty slot. What he can do is edit your original slot to change the UDID for your new device. I did that for someone when they replaced their 3G during the beta phase.
Thank you for the response. Apparently this guy wants to make another $10 off me and I refuse to do that. Oh well. I guess I'll wait till the final.

[icecreamman2]

wait so do we update if were just testers? can i wait for the normal 3.1 and install that?

[eureka]

has anyone updated to the beta thus far?
feedback would be great
how is the speed of the new build? and how about battery life with push enabled?

[iphun]

wait so do we update if were just testers? can i wait for the normal 3.1 and install that?

If you are using the SAME device (same UDID) as when you were on 3.0 beta then yes you can update, but if you got a different phone then it has a different UDID meaning, as shutter said, your dev will need to modify your slot with your new UDID.

[Kuntry]

If you are using the SAME device (same UDID) as when you were on 3.0 beta then yes you can update, but if you got a different phone then it has a different UDID meaning, as shutter said, your dev will need to modify your slot with your new UDID.
....if your dev isn't a dou***bag. :wink:

EDIT: According to my dev, iphun and shutter are mistaken (i believe you guys, not him) He insists that you cannot edit a slot...only add a new one.

[iphun]

has anyone updated to the beta thus far?
feedback would be great
how is the speed of the new build? and how about battery life with push enabled?

I am updated and I don't notice any speed difference at all, if anything it is slightly faster. It literally just came out not long ago, so once I am fully charged I will see how my life lasts on 3.1. I have push enabled so I will be able to tell you how it lasts with it.

[shutter13]

....if your dev isn't a dou***bag. :wink:

EDIT: According to my dev, iphun and shutter are mistaken (i believe you guys, not him) He insists that you cannot edit a slot...only add a new one.

He's wrong. In the device portal you have the option to modify any entry you have made, to include change the UDID, makes sense in case one of your testers replaces their device, you can modify their entry without losing a slot.

[Watcher]

I think I'm going to sit this beta out until the official release because my iPhone is working swimmingly. No problems whatsoever! I also don't like the fact that they changed the baseband, which means you can't revert back to 3.0, I believe.

[fsas06]

im not sure if i want to get in this new beta yet, but i got a new phone and im on your dev account shutter, but do u want to update my UDID number ?

[iphun]

....if your dev isn't a dou***bag. :wink:

EDIT: According to my dev, iphun and shutter are mistaken (i believe you guys, not him) He insists that you cannot edit a slot...only add a new one.

He definitely is one. Well there's a modify button for your slot so it is possible. I would tell him what to do so he realizes you either know what you are doing or know someone that does. Too bad you don't know anything about their account or you could threaten to turn them into apple! Or email apple your old UDID and tell them someone illegally added it :laugh2:

Some good things I am noticing about 3.1 is:
-speaker seems much louder than the 3G now
-something about compass seems smoother (might just be my imagination)
-mms ability is added back, carrier is updated to 4.2
-you can now edit video and save both the edited one and original
-seems to be charging faster, I hope that doesn't mean it will drain faster!

[shutter13]

He definitely is one. Well there's a modify button for your slot so it is possible. I would tell him what to do so he realizes you either know what you are doing or know someone that does. Too bad you don't know anything about their account or you could threaten to turn them into apple! Or email apple your old UDID and tell them someone illegally added it :laugh2:

Some good things I am noticing about 3.1 is:
-speaker seems much louder than the 3G now
-something about compass seems smoother (might just be my imagination)
-mms ability is added back, carrier is updated to 4.2
-you can now edit video and save both the edited one and original
-seems to be charging faster, I hope that doesn't mean it will drain faster!

Did you update ...or restore?

[iphun]

Did you update ...or restore?

Update..

I also noticed the options for what's included for the spotlight function are gone under settings>general>home. Not a big deal just something I noticed.

Here's a list of some of the new features: http://www.quickpwn.com/2009/06/whats-new-in-iphone-os-31-beta.html

[Hondamaker]

Some good things I am noticing about 3.1 is:
-speaker seems much louder than the 3G now

Speaker on the 3GS is already MUCH louder than the 3G!

[jlhollander]

no, modifying the device udid also takes up a spot in the total number of devices that it uses. I just modified my device from my old 3G to my 3GS and it counted as a spot.

[iphun]

Speaker on the 3GS is already MUCH louder than the 3G!

Yeah it definitely was much louder on 3.0, but on 3.1 it is ridiculously louder!

[Hondamaker]

Yeah it definitely was much louder on 3.0, but on 3.1 it is ridiculously louder!Damn, I guess that's not so bad, eh?

[Kuntry]

Damn, I guess that's not so bad, eh?
The only negative I foresee with this would be distortion. My 3GS speaker already distorts a little bit if I have the volume maxed out (could be my ringtone though. I'm rockin that song from Pineapple Express "All I wanna do is >BOOM BOOM BOOM< and a >CHA-CHING< and take ya money") :laugh2:

[shutter13]

no, modifying the device udid also takes up a spot in the total number of devices that it uses. I just modified my device from my old 3G to my 3GS and it counted as a spot.

The first time I did it...I don't recall it counting down...but I have modified 3 devices now, and my total comes up 3 shy of 100 when I add what I have left and the devices I have already registered.

[stevetim]

Seems the firmware is now 305MB versus the 286MB of the original 3.0betas. Wonder what is here?

[iphun]

Seems the firmware is now 305MB versus the 286MB of the original 3.0betas. Wonder what is here?

I noticed that too. Give it a day or two until someone breaks it down, we might hear of something new being hidden in 3.1.

[iphun]

The Phone and Calculator apps now have support for copy and paste.

[pashtasuman]

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[2white2fight]

i like it alot, when unlocking it goes alot faster, seem to be slighty faster as another user said

[termleech]

Now that the MMS icon is back, can anyone who had MMS working before (they are on a family plan or whatever) see if they can send MMS with the MMS icon back? I'm curious if the MMS settings are correct it's just still a matter of the opt out on the iPhone or if the MMS settings are wrong still.

[shutter13]

Seems the firmware is now 305MB versus the 286MB of the original 3.0betas. Wonder what is here?

I restored my 3gs as a new phone a couple of days after I got it, the 3.0 for the 3gs was the same size as the 3.1 beta. 3gs has more features, it's a bigger download. 3.1 for V1 and 3G are slightly larger than the 3.0 betas at about 239 and 240 MB.

[dcom]

I did the 3.1 beta update last night (3G, not 3GS) and Option-clicked "Check for Updates" (on MBP). Had no issues, all songs, videos, apps still intact after update.

Not much is known about what was changed but one thing I found is the sound alert when you do Find My Iphone plays at full volume regardless of the volume setting on the phone. Before the update, the alert volume seemed to follow the setting.

Also, when you tap and hold an icon to move it around the screen, you get a vibration alert.

Even though the carrier version went to 4.2, it still didn't enable any MMS or Tethering options in Settings.

[iphun]

Now that the MMS icon is back, can anyone who had MMS working before (they are on a family plan or whatever) see if they can send MMS with the MMS icon back? I'm curious if the MMS settings are correct it's just still a matter of the opt out on the iPhone or if the MMS settings are wrong still.

I had it working the during every beta and on the GM release, but as soon as I got my 3GS it stopped working. I called and they said all the 3GS's were already opted out automatically when they were activated, but at&t has to flip the switch so we can use it. They currently have a temporary block on it until all the 3G's are opted out then they will turn it on for us. Maybe they will start letting 3GS users have mms since they are automatically provisioned and 3.1 adds the mms options back.

[2white2fight]

iam so pissed! 3.1 beta ipod feature keeps crashing! no ipod :(

[shutter13]

iam so pissed! 3.1 beta ipod feature keeps crashing! no ipod :(

On what device? I'm using the ipod on my 3GS right now, no issues so far.

[2white2fight]

On what device? I'm using the ipod on my 3GS right now, no issues so far.

3g, iam trying to do a sync and put some new music on to see if it clears that up

[cdelauz]

Can we run the modified ipcc 5.0 file on this beta?

[cdelauz]

So far for the users who have been running the 3.1, can you give us a bit more info over al how the phone is running?

lag in text?? over all snappiness on the phone? any issue? what phone are you using 3G or 3Gs?

Thanks.

[shutter13]

So far for the users who have been running the 3.1, can you give us a bit more info over al how the phone is running?

lag in text?? over all snappiness on the phone? any issue? what phone are you using 3G or 3Gs?

Thanks.

3GS; have noticed no lag anywhere, although I have not noticed a speed increase as some have reported. Phone is pretty much just as snappy as it was before the update. I restored from a back up.

[2white2fight]

3GS; have noticed no lag anywhere, although I have not noticed a speed increase as some have reported. Phone is pretty much just as snappy as it was before the update. I restored from a back up.

i just did the alt update thing, i just put new music on and it fixed, every weird bug for the ipod to crash.... gotta go report to apple now hehe

[iphun]

i just did the alt update thing, i just put new music on and it fixed, every weird bug for the ipod to crash.... gotta go report to apple now hehe

Just uncheck all your music/videos and resync them back. I didn't have that problem it just worked after I updated but some people on the devforums were having that problem.

[iphun]

Can we run the modified ipcc 5.0 file on this beta?

Yeah you probably can but there is no use in adding it since they updated the carrier to 4.2 and added back all the mms options. So I think we will see mms by mid july since this beta is pretty solid. Maybe 1-2 more betas and we will have the final release, whether at&t will be ready or not, lets hope they will be.

[2white2fight]

Just uncheck all your music/videos and resync them back. I didn't have that problem it just worked after I updated but some people on the devforums were having that problem.

yea thats what i did<3, guess your a lucky one iphun!

[iphun]

yea thats what i did<3, guess your a lucky one iphun!

Lol I realized I basically just told you what you already did :laugh2: I guess I am lucky :wink:

I noticed on top of the phone app supporting copy and paste, also in contacts you can now copy phone #'s. And I don't have 3.1 installed on my 3G since it isn't activated anymore but I heard on the devforums that the 3G now has the battery percentage, so the V1 probably has it now also.

[Bitewound]

Anyone know which file # it is for the 3GS?
Is it
1,1_3.1 7c97d

1,2_3.1 7c97d

or
2,1 _3.1 7c97d

[2white2fight]

Lol I realized I basically just told you what you already did :laugh2: I guess I am lucky :wink:

I noticed on top of the phone app supporting copy and paste, also in contacts you can now copy phone #'s. And I don't have 3.1 installed on my 3G since it isn't activated anymore but I heard on the devforums that the 3G now has the battery percentage, so the V1 probably has it now also.

how do i find that??

[shutter13]

Anyone know which file # it is for the 3GS?
Is it
1,1_3.1 7c97d

1,2_3.1 7c97d

or
2,1 _3.1 7c97d

2,1 _3.1 7c97d = 3GS

[Sirius389]

Anyone know which file # it is for the 3GS?
Is it
1,1_3.1 7c97d

1,2_3.1 7c97d

or
2,1 _3.1 7c97d

1,1_3.1 7c97d - iPhone v1

1,2_3.1 7c97d - iPhone 3G

2,1 _3.1 7c97d - iPhone 3GS

Ahh, a minute too late, lol

[shutter13]

how do i find that??

Settings>General>Usage

[Bitewound]

OK Update didn't work- stuck in DFU mode and the phone will NOT restore-Suggestions ????

[shutter13]

OK Update didn't work- stuck in DFU mode and the phone will NOT restore-Suggestions ????

Where did you download the update? What is the size of the ipsw you are trying to update to? How did the update not work? Need more information.

[2white2fight]

Settings>General>Usage

So the battery percentage option is not there so I guess 3g doesn't have it

[iigreatoneii]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but you don't need to pay someone set you up with a Dev Slot to get this new update right?

It works the same as the 3.0 GM seed did..

I already installed 3.1 on my 3G and haven't experienced any problems. No lagging or anything like that. I can now add a photo to text messages but when it tries to send it, it fills the bar up to 90% and then stops and evenutally tells you the message can't go through. So, AT&T is still dragging on that feature...

That and a couple of the other features previously mentioned are all that is included in this update, thus far... maybe something else will be discovered...

It's already on Demonoid (as I figured it would be) for download.

[dcom]

...I heard on the devforums that the 3G now has the battery percentage, so the V1 probably has it now also.

Not sure where that would be but my 3G 3.1 doesn't have the percentage option in Settings->General->Usage or anywhere else.

[psylichon]

I can't speak firsthand, but I see accounts in IRC chat from earlier this morning stating that the 3.1 beta was installed on a new 3GS without a registered UDID without any issue. In other words, I don't think you need to have a registered UDID for this one.

Again, take this information as second-hand only and proceed with caution as always...

[Bitewound]

Where did you download the update? What is the size of the ipsw you are trying to update to? How did the update not work? Need more information.
Got file from Torrent site 304.5 mb
Have since used your file and it is still stuck in recovery mode. I have tried restoring to 3.0 GM and i'm still in recovery mode.
I have tried to restore 9 times- i get error 3004.

[psylichon]

Bitewound, that sounds like an iTunes mismatch error code. Are you sure you have the latest 8.2 update? If so, maybe reinstall iTunes?

[Bitewound]

Itunes says it's the current version 8.2 -will i lose all my music if i uninstall and reinstall??

[psylichon]

Don't uninstall. Try just reinstalling overtop first.

[Bitewound]

Don't uninstall. Try just reinstalling overtop first.
Just download it again??

[iphun]

Not sure where that would be but my 3G 3.1 doesn't have the percentage option in Settings->General->Usage or anywhere else.
Someone on the devforums said that their 3G had it. If it was there it would be in the same place that the 3GS has it which is: Settings->General->Usage
Got file from Torrent site 304.5 mb
Have since used your file and it is still stuck in recovery mode. I have tried restoring to 3.0 GM and i'm still in recovery mode.
I have tried to restore 9 times- i get error 3004.
I have heard error 3004 has to do with your UDID not being able to be validated on the apple servers.
http://www.quickpwn.com/forums/iphone-os-3-0/3309-eroor-3004-a.html

[Bitewound]

I have heard error 3004 has to do with your UDID not being able to be validated on the apple servers.
http://www.quickpwn.com/forums/iphone-os-3-0/3309-eroor-3004-a.html
Hmm well my UDID is registered

[cdelauz]

Shutter you set it up as a new phone then restored from back up?

[iphun]

Hmm well my UDID is registered

It's not necessarily that you aren't registered but that they couldn't validate it. Maybe restart your computer then try or reinstall itunes like psylichon said. You don't have to uninstall itunes just download it or find the one that you downloaded before and run the file again to reinstall.

[stevetim]

Bitewound, that sounds like an iTunes mismatch error code. Are you sure you have the latest 8.2 update? If so, maybe reinstall iTunes?

This will do the trick.

If you're on a Mac, create a different user account, DL iTunes and install on the new account after you have deleted the old iTunes and did a reboot.

You really should uninstall the old iTunes first.

[fsas06]

im gona take the jump lol hope all goes well haha

[shutter13]

Hmm well my UDID is registered

Yes it is, I've double checked it several times.

Shutter you set it up as a new phone then restored from back up?

no just restored from back up. Never set up as a new phone.

[Bitewound]

It's not necessarily that you aren't registered but that they couldn't validate it. Maybe restart your computer then try or reinstall itunes like psylichon said. You don't have to uninstall itunes just download it or find the one that you downloaded before and run the file again to reinstall.I already tried restarting my computer, and tried to restore to 3.0 and i keep getting that 3004 error. I can't get it out of recovery mode- when i try to restore-i get the error right after it says validating phone on Apple servers.

[psylichon]

Bitewound, did you register the UDID of your new 3GS? Or just your old iPhone?

[Bitewound]

This will do the trick.

If you're on a Mac, create a different user account, DL iTunes and install on the new account after you have deleted the old iTunes and did a reboot.

You really should uninstall the old iTunes first.
Thank you, I'll do that as a last resort-I really don't want to have to upload all my music again or lose my last backup.

[Bitewound]

Bitewound, did you register the UDID of your new 3GS? Or just your old iPhone?
The new 3GS

[badge]

i can confirm after 3.1 upgrade on my 3g ipod will not work.

[cdelauz]

OK, thanks!!

[iNinja]

I had my 3g registered with Taewing, could you please add my 3gs or would i have to pay again?

If anyone has any spare spots, id really appreciate it. Could you please PM me?
Thanks ;)

[badge]

there are rumours it works without being registered ..

[icecreamman2]

Does this meen we will always be on betas and never have the normal version? Can I get out of testing and go to the normal version of 3.0.... So confused. I'm a tester btw

[fsas06]

i just did the alt update thing, i just put new music on and it fixed, every weird bug for the ipod to crash.... gotta go report to apple now hehe
im haveing the problem u had, i added some new songs to fix it. it worked, but then i didnt want to keep the song so i deleted them becuase i only put them on to fix it, and now that they are gone, my phone says i have now music what so ever.

[iNinja]

Could anyone confirm that it works without being a beta tester? Thanks

[psylichon]

Not personally, but I've spoken with up10ad (a registered developer) who says he updated his 3GS today and the UDID is definitely not registered yet with Apple.

[iNinja]

Ok, worst case scenario, if I try and update now, and it notices I havent got my UDID registered, what would happen?

Soory for sounding like a noob! :)

[psylichon]

Not sure, to be honest. I would wait.

[shutter13]

Ok, worst case scenario, if I try and update now, and it notices I havent got my UDID registered, what would happen?

Soory for sounding like a noob! :)

You would be stuck on the recovery screen until your UDID was registered, that is the worst case scenario.

[iNinja]

Thanks Shutter / Dave, I think ill wait then. I couldnt be without my phone! lol

[shutter13]

Thank you, I'll do that as a last resort-I really don't want to have to upload all my music again or lose my last backup.

If you can get access to a different computer (maybe a windows machine?) try loading it from there.

[badge]

Thanks Shutter / Dave, I think ill wait then. I couldnt be without my phone! lol
i would wait i lost my ipod part of phone

[shutter13]

i would wait i lost my ipod part of phone

Uncheck all your music - sync - recheck your music and resync. Someone else had the same issue in this thread and that worked for them.

[iphun]

i would wait i lost my ipod part of phone

Just unsync then resync your music and it should work.

[cdelauz]

So what would be the best way to load this sucker in my 3Gs

[AntonChigurh]

Any word on battery drain fixes?

[iphun]

Any word on battery drain fixes?

It seems to be a little better and this is only beta 1, so by the final release when they address everything I am sure it will be as close to what they said it would be.

[shutter13]

Any word on battery drain fixes?

I have not noticed any battery improvements...but my battery issue wasn't very bad. My phone will start to warm up after about 5-10 minutes of continuous use (3G first, then the 3GS after I got it), through a case it is not hot or uncomfortable, but noticeable. This "warming" issue began with the GM release of 3.0, never noticed it before on 2.2.1 or any of the betas.

[shutter13]

So what would be the best way to load this sucker in my 3Gs

I first did shift + update. When it was done, it didn't feel quite as snappy as it did on 3.0, so I restored from back up. Once I restarted after the restore it did feel just as snappy. Others have updated with no issues, so I would try that first, if you have issues...try restoring from back up, if you still have issues...restore and set up as new.

[Bitewound]

If you can get access to a different computer (maybe a windows machine?) try loading it from there.
Went to Apple -could not get an Appt today but figured if i was nice they might help me.

Lines are outrageous but nice apple guy tells me since i bought it at Best Buy- go swap it out there-if i had bought it at apple he would have just done it for me.

OK trudge back uptown- go to BB and speak to Mobile phone clerk. She takes me down to geek squad and they hook up my phone and it starts to restore. It finishes and she looks at me and says next time you try and jailbreak i'm not going to fix it for you!!!

I politely told her i never did try to jailbreak it but she accuses me again 2 more times.

I Nicely tried to explain that there is no jailbreak for a 3gs (that's been released anyway) so that action on my part, would be impossible.

She basically calls me a liar again.
i complained to the manager on duty and just wrote a lovely note about her to her supervisor.
I just backed up my phone.

[shutter13]

Went to Apple -could not get an Appt today but figured if i was nice they might help me.

Lines are outrageous but nice apple guy tells me since i bought it at Best Buy- go swap it out there-if i had bought it at apple he would have just done it for me.

OK trudge back uptown- go to BB and speak to Mobile phone clerk. She takes me down to geek squad and they hook up my phone and it starts to restore. It finishes and she looks at me and says next time you try and jailbreak i'm not going to fix it for you!!!

I politely told her i never did try to jailbreak it but she accuses me again 2 more times.

I Nicely tried to explain that there is no jailbreak for a 3gs (that's been released anyway) so that action on my part, would be impossible.

She basically calls me a liar again.
i complained to the manager on duty and just wrote a lovely note about her to her supervisor.
I just backed up my phone.


That's too bad she treated you like that, you should have pointed her to this thread once she got your iPhone working again.

[Bitewound]

That's too bad she treated you like that, you should have pointed her to this thread once she got your iPhone working again.
Thanks, her attitude and accusations were totally uncalled for.

[iphun]

Yeah that sucks she had to be that way. It's not like she works for apple and apple employees usually don't even care when you have a jailbroken phone. They do care when you have beta versions on the phone though. I would have told her if she knew so much about iphones then she would know that there isn't a jb yet and until she is better educated she is in no position to be telling you what YOU did. By the 3rd accusation I would have flipped on her and made a scene so a manager would feel obligated to come over. Then try and milk it for a gift card or something :D

[Bitewound]

She had very little knowledge about Iphones. She couldn't understand why i would restore.I told her it's the first thing you do when something is wrong with your phone. I didn't tell her about the Beta Version - just told her the phone was buggy.

I've written to her supervisor and if that does not get an adequate response, I'll forward the email to his supervisor.

[iphun]

That just makes me think of a best buy commercial with some girl saying they know more than walmart about tv's. I bet you would have had a better experience at walmart even though this had to do with an iphone. If she didn't know why you would restore then she shouldn't be working around any technology! Anyone who has owned an ipod or iphone at least would remember seeing the 'Restore' 'If you are experiencing problems' in itunes. She probably would have given you a dumb look or accused you of jb'ing again if you said beta version.

Definitely pursue it and make sure they know how she treated you cause you never know what they might do do make you happy. And of course something needs to be done about her.

[Bitewound]

Hell, I've never written a complaint letter to any company about anyone before, but i intend to pursue this. If she had just accused me once, i might not be so annoyed, but even after explaining why i restored, she continued to call me a liar.:mad:

[icecreamman2]

can someone please answer my question! i am a beta tester curently on 3.0 GM, do i have to upgrade to 3.1 beta? will i always have to be on beta or when the official 3.1 rolls around can i have that instead? thanx in advance

[stevetim]

can someone please answer my question! i am a beta tester curently on 3.0 GM, do i have to upgrade to 3.1 beta? will i always have to be on beta or when the official 3.1 rolls around can i have that instead? thanx in advance

Try restoring your phone on iTunes.

It may DL the current Apple server 3.0, then it will not be beta?

[Bitewound]

can someone please answer my question! i am a beta tester curently on 3.0 GM, do i have to upgrade to 3.1 beta? will i always have to be on beta or when the official 3.1 rolls around can i have that instead? thanx in advance
NO, you don't have to upgrade to 3.1 unless you want to.

[dirt_mover3g]

Plus isn't the GM identical to the official anyway?

[iphun]

Plus isn't the GM identical to the official anyway?
Yes the GM was no different from the official. They share the same version number of 7a341. That's why the GM seed didn't require the phones UDID to be registered with the apple developer servers. But since 3.1 is currently on beta you will need to have your UDID registered, although I have heard people were able to update to 3.1 beta without being registered I wouldn't recommend it unless you have a dev willing to offer you a spot just in case.

[icecreamman2]

NO, you don't have to upgrade to 3.1 unless you want to.

thanx so much! also when the official 3.1 rolls around will i be able to get it?

[2white2fight]

thanx so much! also when the official 3.1 rolls around will i be able to get it?

week? 2 weeks?

[iphun]

thanx so much! also when the official 3.1 rolls around will i be able to get it?
Of course you will and trust me you'll want it because when it comes out it will probably come with the support for mms from at&t we have been waiting for.
week? 2 weeks?
Probably 2 weeks, with 1 or 2 more betas

[marciton]

How can we report bug to apple ?

[2white2fight]

How can we report bug to apple ?

only devs can realy