After all the hype...

[BigCiX]

....im really not that impressed with the new iphone. Seems to me apple just rushed this phone out to try and stay on top of the competition and not lose any loyal customers to the pre. Ill definetly be upgrading to the new OS but not waiting in line another 10 1/2 hours. I really expected alot more this time around but i guess i gotta wait another year or so. Dang apple...i was really hoping for a front face camera and a non scratchable backing!!!!

[Napoleon_PhoneApart]

I'm definitely into the faster processor and video recording, though.

[dturner]

I agree with everything you say except one point. I will be really surprised if there are lines like there were for past phone releases.:wink:

[Europa]

I agree with everything you say except one point. I will be really surprised if there are lines like there were for past phone releases.:wink:
They definetely won't be as long since you can preorder them online and have them delivered on iDay 3.0.

[firewire]

They definetely won't be as long since you can preorder them online and have them delivered on iDay 3.0.
Which sounds like even Apple is treating this release as a run of the mill update as opposed to a major upgrade.

[Nemss316]

The biggest news was the $99 iPhone 3G. That is going to turn more heads I think than the 3GS announcement.

[Cantwait4iPhone]

Which sounds like even Apple is treating this release as a run of the mill update as opposed to a major upgrade.

Right, that's what's bound to happen eventually. Not every iPhone release can be a huge update, there just isn't enough change to make every time around. The first iPhone changed the way phones work, and the next few are going to make minor adjustments to make that a little bit better each time.

The fact that they are allowing preorders is just showing that they're improving the release day process. Instead of having people wait around, they'd rather streamline the process and make it easier for everyone. A good thing.

[Europa]

Which sounds like even Apple is treating this release as a run of the mill update as opposed to a major upgrade.
Or they just want to sell more of them by making the process much easier!

10 minutes to order the 3G S today or wait in line at Apple store for hours on end with no guarantee that they won't be sold out...hmmm

[JWiPhone]

I just placed my order online..Black iPhone 3GS 32GB..My first iPhone. I'm having it shipped to me, delivered on the 19th with free shipping. I hate lines LOL

[firewire]

Or they just want to sell more of them by making the process much easier!

10 minutes to order the 3G S today or wait in line at Apple store for hours on end with no guarantee that they won't be sold out...hmmm
Artificial shortages + media hype of said shortages = large demand. They knew what they were doing last year. It was all a plan. They know they can't fool enough people with the 3gs so they didn't bother and are letting you get it online, something they were very capable of doing for the 3g as well.

[iphun]

I just placed my order online..Black iPhone 3GS 32GB..My first iPhone. I'm having it shipped to me, delivered on the 19th with free shipping. I hate lines LOL

I would do that, but I need a little work around so I can get the cheaper price. That means a trip to an at&t store and being very nice to the reps to get what I want.

[kevlar08]

I am also disappointed with the new iPhone. There was plenty apple could of did to impress us like front facing camera, or even just change the form of the new phone. But instead they didn't do much at all. And with all the hassel of paying the full price I see little motivation to upgrade

[Napoleon_PhoneApart]

I am also disappointed with the new iPhone. There was plenty apple could of did to impress us like front facing camera, or even just change the form of the new phone. But instead they didn't do much at all. And with all the hassel of paying the full price I see little motivation to upgrade

Yeah, I know.

Faster processor, 256K RAM, video recording and editing, voice control, magnetometer, upgraded camera, better battery life...

If only Apple had put on a wooden back in chartreuse...that would have been a major upgrade and I'd be all over it like a cheap suit...

[kevlar08]

Yeah, I know.

Faster processor, 256K RAM, video recording and editing, voice control, magnetometer, upgraded camera, better battery life...

If only Apple had put on a wooden back in chartreuse...that would have been a major upgrade and I'd be all over it like a cheap suit...

So your convinced that's the best a company like apple could do in year?
You think that's $600 worth of upgrades?

[iphun]

So your convinced that's the best a company like apple could do in year?

Camera could have been better but yeah I think it is the best they can do without having the battery life horrible and keep the phone the same size. OLED I think they will do but want to test it's life first and I have heard it isn't good in the sun, so maybe not even next year. And a front camera will come when ichat comes with the iphone which will be when there is a 4G network.
There was nothing wrong with the case and they are going to still sell the 8GB 3G so they want them to all look the same.

[styfle]

Yeah, I know.

Faster processor, 256MB RAM, video recording and editing, voice control, magnetometer, upgraded camera, better battery life...

If only Apple had put on a wooden back in chartreuse...that would have been a major upgrade and I'd be all over it like a cheap suit...

Fixed. That would suck if it had less RAM lol.

[kevlar08]

Camera could have been better but yeah I think it is the best they can do without having the battery life horrible and keep the phone the same size. OLED I think they will do but want to test it's life first and I have heard it isn't good in the sun, so maybe not even next year. And a front camera will come when ichat comes with the iphone which will be when there is a 4G network.
There was nothing wrong with the case and they are going to still sell the 8GB 3G so they want them to all look the same.

i guess i got my expectations to high then i guess. i would of liked to have been blown away by the latest iphone.

[psylichon]

I blame the mockups. They get expectations unreasonably high. Apple does amazing tech, but this stuff costs money, people! We wouldn't be able to afford an iPhone with a larger, OLED screen and another camera and FM transmitter and whatnot if it were actually released in today's market.

And it shouldn't be looked at as an "upgrade" for current users. It's an iPhone. You already have one, this one's just better. Personally, I think $200 with Apple gets you the most amazingly advanced phone on the market, hands down, no questions asked. And it's still sexy, to me at least. I have zero complaints. People just expect too much.

[iphun]

i guess i got my expectations to high then i guess. i would of liked to have been blown away by the latest iphone.

We definitely got our hopes high with all the concepts and rumors, but I am happy with this upgrade. Yeah we would have loved more, but the phone is still ahead of most in a lot of areas. I think what we see each year is limited by batteries and some stuff just uses too much battery to add it now. We will soon see processors that match the ones in our computers they just need to make them very efficient on battery consumption. And the network limits a lot, but I think the year of the 4G will be when we see the biggest update.

[iphun]

I blame the mockups. They get expectations unreasonably high. Apple does amazing tech, but this stuff costs money, people! We wouldn't be able to afford an iPhone with a larger, OLED screen and another camera and FM transmitter and whatnot if it were actually released in today's market.

And it shouldn't be looked at as an "upgrade" for current users. It's an iPhone. You already have one, this one's just better. Personally, I think $200 with Apple gets you the most amazingly advanced phone on the market, hands down, no questions asked. And it's still sexy, to me at least. I have zero complaints. People just expect too much.

Completely agree, nothing I can even add :smile:

[kevlar08]

True all good points and the features added in the 3gs are great don't get me wrong. But I'm use to apple being light years ahead of everything else

[psylichon]

In my opinion, they still are in many respects. Sure, there are phones out there with higher MP cameras and perhaps a few other tricks that the iPhone doesn't do, but no one has near the complete package like the 3GS.

Again, Apple doesn't need to kill itself bringing a higher-tech device to stay ahead in this game, I don't think. They're already there, they just need to maintain. They brought smart, reasonable upgrades to the platform to keep it competitive for the next year or so and that's all they need to do well. I think they found a nice balance.

[iphun]

In my opinion, they still are in many respects. Sure, there are phones out there with higher MP cameras and perhaps a few other tricks that the iPhone doesn't do, but no one has near the complete package like the 3GS.

Again, Apple doesn't need to kill itself bringing a higher-tech device to stay ahead in this game, I don't think. They're already there, they just need to maintain. They brought smart, reasonable upgrades to the platform to keep it competitive for the next year or so and that's all they need to do well. I think they found a nice balance.

And the camera is nothing without great software which the iphone has.

They have sold what over 40 million iphone and ipod touches worldwide, so they are doing something right. Why make unnecessary changes when you don't have to make them. Apple likes to test most features so they are done right when they release them, and they are doing fine at the rate of upgrades right now. They just added many features people have been asking for and maybe the features you want will be there next year.

[glsda]

Yeah well if Apple is so far ahead why don't they have the cheese slicing ability of the Pre> lol :tounge:

[ZR_Yancy]

It looks like a lot of people let down by the supposedly not so stellar hardware upgrade are forgetting a very big reason why the iPhone is so good. The apps. With the upgrades they made to the 3GS, there are going to be a whole new level of apps coming down the pipe. For example, now that we have video, it's going to be possible for devs to create apps that will have the ability of iMovie editing quality home videos right on the iPhone 3GS. Or a whole new line of Navigational apps now that the new 3GS has compass ability. I can't wait to see what the devs are going to give us.

[iphun]

It looks like a lot of people let down by the supposedly not so stellar hardware upgrade are forgetting a very big reason why the iPhone is so good. The apps. With the upgrades they made to the 3GS, there are going to be a whole new level of apps coming down the pipe. For example, now that we have video, it's going to be possible for devs to create apps that will have the ability of iMovie editing quality home videos right on the iPhone 3GS. Or a whole new line of Navigational apps now that the new 3GS has compass ability. I can't wait to see what the devs are going to give us.

Not only the whole new world of aps for the 3GS, but there are over 1000 API's for all iphones. The only features the V1 and 3G won't get will have to do with the 3GS specific changes.

[cubbie5150]

I wait with interest to read about build-quality of the S. I hope for Apple's sake they really did fix the problem many 3G owners had with cracks in the plastic housing. I think I read that Apple supposedly fixed that issue, but I there are posts on MacRumors to this day reporting cracking of the 3G housing. One of the things making me not want to upgrade yet from my Edge version is not wanting to deal with inferior build quality/cracking, especially since I live more than 2 hours away from the nearest Apple Store (for now at least)

[Nemss316]

The good news is that Apple will cover the phone if the cracks do appear. I haven't seen nearly as many posts lately on the cracking issue, perhaps Apple quietly solved the issue?

[JoHnOfDaDeAd]

Was the 3G 2x faster than the v1? If so, I am looking at a 4x upgrade when I move up to the 3GS:)

[argeleri]

I think the OP has a good point with existing 3g owners. Most of the upgrades you will get just from upgrading the OS. However for new users (like myself), this is really good news. Higher capacity, better battery life, etc. have now pushed me to buy the new 3GS. I already liked the iPhone 3G but was waiting until they increased storage and battery capacity. Looks like they did and now I'm switching over and buying.

[AWY]

I will be upgrading my son's V1 to the new 3G S, as a college graduation present. Personally, I have no issues with my current V1 and I think that is a wonderful phone. I don't need the next best and greatest offerings. I can afford to wait.

[bo7e1se]

Yeah well if Apple is so far ahead why don't they have the cheese slicing ability of the Pre> lol :tounge:


haha love it.. i work for sprint and i would NEVER give up my iphone for a pre

[iPhoneMonster]

I think what happened was that the iPhone 3G Was rushed out and the iPhone 3GS was what was meant to be. Next year, I think we will see the "real" 2,1 - which is what i'm waiting for.

[mitchwisemen]

I agree with everything you say except one point. I will be really surprised if there are lines like there were for past phone releases.:wink:
me too~~http://www.intocpa.com/flash/34/b/happy.gif

[Napoleon_PhoneApart]

me too~~http://www.intocpa.com/flash/34/b/happy.gif

Yeah - you and iPhoneMonster will get your new iPhones in 2010, and the "true" upgrade will appear in 2011...:laugh2:

[iPhoneMonster]

Check this link out:

http://www.theiphoneblog.com/2009/06/22/iphone-apple-charts-differences/

Did you check that table out? Look at how many improvements they've made from iPhone 3g to iPhone 3gs in comparison to original to 3g

[iPhoneMonster]

Yeah - you and iPhoneMonster will get your new iPhones in 2010, and the "true" upgrade will appear in 2011...:laugh2:

Then I'd wait for 2012 :D

[BigCiX]

I think what happened was that the iPhone 3G Was rushed out and the iPhone 3GS was what was meant to be. Next year, I think we will see the "real" 2,1 - which is what i'm waiting for.

i have to disagree on that one. I think the 3G was scheduled at a great time and much needed improvement with the 3G network. The 3G S is what i believed to be rushed. As far as im concerned the original 3G was plenty of fast enough. All it needed out the box that would be mms capabilities and maybe a "video recorder" and that would of held most customers over til 2010 release.

[acosmichippo]

Have you used a 3GS?

[BrownGem]

The 3GS is one of the most advanced devices on the market. Name one phone you would buy right now and sell your 3G or 3GS!! At subsidized pricing you get a smoking hot phone. Even at the the discount pricing a lot of us paid, I still do not regret the purchase. The 3G is a great phone. I think the 3GS is even better and will be made more so through offerings in the app store.

[iMeth]

....im really not that impressed with the new iphone. Seems to me apple just rushed this phone out to try and stay on top of the competition and not lose any loyal customers to the pre. Ill definetly be upgrading to the new OS but not waiting in line another 10 1/2 hours. I really expected alot more this time around but i guess i gotta wait another year or so. Dang apple...i was really hoping for a front face camera and a non scratchable backing!!!!

upgrade was huge... video recorder... etc compass faster 3G network.. 32GB... yeah

[acosmichippo]

I'm not a fan of the plastic back either, but I think anyone that says the 3GS is not a significant upgrade has no actually used one.

[Get_Zwole]

I'm not a fan of the plastic back either, but I think anyone that says the 3GS is not a significant upgrade has no actually used one.
i agree with that for sure. Somebody said that in best buy when i was getting a case, i compared mine with my buddies 3g its like a cable modem vs, 56k its not even fair lol. Crazy faster and a huge upgrade not only in speed if you ask me.

[ZR_Yancy]

I don't car about the back of the phone because my iPhone is always wearing a full case. I never see the back unless I change the case.

[Get_Zwole]

I dont mind the black plastic on the back its pretty high quality so its not cheap looking like the *cough* pre *cough* lol