Video Calling (ichat)? [Archive]

iphun

06-02-2009, 08:14 AM

What exactly is this. Wouldn't the camera have to be on the front of the phone for this to work? The picture from the "Fido" roadmap doesn't reflect this....

Look in the bottom right corner, it says that the image isn't the product you are going to see. I'm not sure about iChat coming, at least on at&t, but maybe some carriers will support it. Maybe we will see a front facing camera, but since the 4 and 8GB will most likely be budget versions that won't include the front facing camera and maybe other features in the higher priced versions.

http://www.slipperybrick.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/fido-leak-16a.jpg

adnurahs

06-02-2009, 08:19 AM

Look in the bottom right corner, it says that this isn't the product you are going to see. I'm not sure about iChat coming, at least on at&t, but maybe some carriers will support it. Maybe we will see a front facing camera, but since the 4 and 8GB will most likely be budget versions that won't include the front facing camera and maybe other features in the higher priced versions.

Hi iphun - Why don't you think AT&T will get iChat? Will it be an additional cost to us rather than just go in with the unlimited data package some people have? I thought maybe iChat was a software and would just go in with the unlimited package. I hope so.

iphun

06-02-2009, 08:30 AM

Hi iphun - Why don't you think AT&T will get iChat? Will it be an additional cost to us rather than just go in with the unlimited data package some people have? I thought maybe iChat was a software and would just go in with the unlimited package. I hope so.

Hi adnurahs - I remember someone saying that something like iChat which is streaming video would be against their terms of service. Now I could be wrong especially since iChat is a little different than streaming TV for example through Sling since there probably won't be tons of people that will be willing or able to do it since it will be an iphone only feature(at this time). I think if they do have it they might include it at an additional cost, but I think we already pay enough for the data so it's hard to say. iChat is kind of the messages app, phone app, and safari all put together which we pay to use each unless you don't pay for texts, so they should just charge it off of those plans.

adnurahs

06-02-2009, 08:45 AM

Hi adnurahs - I remember someone saying that something like iChat which is streaming video would be against their terms of service. Now I could be wrong especially since iChat is a little different than streaming TV for example through Sling since there probably won't be tons of people that will be willing or able to do it since it will be an iphone only feature(at this time). I think if they do have it they might include it at an additional cost, but I think we already pay enough for the data so it's hard to say. iChat is kind of the messages app, phone app, and safari all put together which we pay to use each unless you don't pay for texts, so they should just charge it off of those plans.

I had no idea what iChat was. Thanks for clearning that up for me. I feel like NOOB sometimes! LOL!! I think you have a point, they may offer it, if they do, at an additional price. It would be nice if they can include it in the data package. I pay for the unlimited texts $30 per month for a family plan. We'll see how it goes. AT&T did say that prices would be lower, but I think that was only for the new people coming in.

Now I am even more excited than before. Monday, can't get here soon enough. I took off of work yesterday knowing that I wanted to take off on the 8th too. I don't think I can be at work all day while the announcement is going on. I hope someone posts some streaming links.

Thanx again iphun!

iphun

06-02-2009, 09:27 AM

I had no idea what iChat was. Thanks for clearning that up for me. I feel like NOOB sometimes! LOL!! I think you have a point, they may offer it, if they do, at an additional price. It would be nice if they can include it in the data package. I pay for the unlimited texts $30 per month for a family plan. We'll see how it goes. AT&T did say that prices would be lower, but I think that was only for the new people coming in.

Now I am even more excited than before. Monday, can't get here soon enough. I took off of work yesterday knowing that I wanted to take off on the 8th too. I don't think I can be at work all day while the announcement is going on. I hope someone posts some streaming links.

Thanx again iphun!

No problem! Here's iChat on the mac, so we would probably see a condensed version of it http://www.apple.com/macosx/features/ichat.html

I have also heard that Fido doesn't charge extra to tether and didn't have a problem with people doing on 3.0. They include tethering into their data plans but at&t doesn't, so that's where I could see them charging us. But then again iChat is different from tethering since you will have to talk to someone using a 3rd gen iphone, unless they make it possible to chat with a Mac. I just don't see a massive amount of iChat traffic to let at&t worry about the network being stressed.

I know!! I am glad I have monday off, I just wouldn't be able to pay attention to anything other than iphone news. I used http://live.gdgt.com/ for the 3.0 keynote, but I don't know if they'll be covering WWDC because there's no mention of it on the site. But don't worry there will be tons of live sites popping up soon.

doron

06-02-2009, 09:34 AM

I predicted this last year...chk out my thread:

http://www.everythingicafe.com/forum/iphone/ichat-on-the-iphone-24543.html

doron

06-02-2009, 09:37 AM

Look in the bottom right corner, it says that this isn't the product you are going to see. I'm not sure about iChat coming, at least on at&t, but maybe some carriers will support it. Maybe we will see a front facing camera, but since the 4 and 8GB will most likely be budget versions that won't include the front facing camera and maybe other features in the higher priced versions.

http://www.slipperybrick.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/fido-leak-16a.jpg

actually this is to be interpreted as IMAGE not actual product...not App not actual product...

doron

06-02-2009, 09:38 AM

What exactly is this. Wouldn't the camera have to be on the front of the phone for this to work? The picture from the "Fido" roadmap doesn't reflect this....

Yes the camera will be on the front of the phone, just as in a MacBook. Tight work...hope it comes thru this time...

iphun

06-02-2009, 09:51 AM

actually this is to be interpreted as IMAGE not actual product...not App not actual product...

Fixed it, that's what I meant lol. I am thinking it will be in there this year. That will be another one of those things other phones won't be able to compete with and you will see them implementing not long after because of apple.

adnurahs

06-02-2009, 09:55 AM

No problem! Here's iChat on the mac, so we would probably see a condensed version of it http://www.apple.com/macosx/features/ichat.html

I have also heard that Fido doesn't charge extra to tether and didn't have a problem with people doing on 3.0. They include tethering into their data plans but at&t doesn't, so that's where I could see them charging us. But then again iChat is different from tethering since you will have to talk to someone using a 3rd gen iphone, unless they make it possible to chat with a Mac. I just don't see a massive amount of iChat traffic to let at&t worry about the network being stressed.

I know!! I am glad I have monday off, I just wouldn't be able to pay attention to anything other than iphone news. I used http://live.gdgt.com/ for the 3.0 keynote, but I don't know if they'll be covering WWDC because there's no mention of it on the site. But don't worry there will be tons of live sites popping up soon.

Thanx for the link to iChat. I don't have a Mac yet! *Gasp* I know, I know! :frown: Sad state of affairs, but my husband knows we gotta get one. He has the final word. I'm the electronics geek and I get him into stuff. He knew nothing of the iphone until I made him sit down and look at last years WWDC, then he was interested. He knows our antiquated PC can't handle another thing so maybe, just maybe we will get an iMac or a Mac book Pro or something soon! This new iphone, I told him, will totally blow out our computer with little to no space left on it even our external hard drive is stressed and stretched. :frown: Uh! But I am optomistic :laugh2:. If this iChat stuff is true, it will probably be the thing to push him to just buy the new computer. He's already looking forward to the video recording on the iPhone and he wants Garage band. :laugh2:

Yeah, I know! I may not be able to pay any attention here at work. I took off last year because of that very reason. I may have to blow another day next Monday and make it up on the back end.

iphun

06-02-2009, 10:20 AM

Thanx for the link to iChat. I don't have a Mac yet! *Gasp* I know, I know! :frown: Sad state of affairs, but my husband knows we gotta get one. He has the final word. I'm the electronics geek and I get him into stuff. He knew nothing of the iphone until I made him sit down and look at last years WWDC, then he was interested. He knows our antiquated PC can't handle another thing so maybe, just maybe we will get an iMac or a Mac book Pro or something soon! This new iphone, I told him, will totally blow out our computer with little to no space left on it even our external hard drive is stressed and stretched. :frown: Uh! But I am optomistic :laugh2:. If this iChat stuff is true, it will probably be the thing to push him to just buy the new computer. He's already looking forward to the video recording on the iPhone and he wants Garage band.

Yeah, I know! I may not be able to pay any attention here at work. I took off last year because of that very reason. I may have to blow another day next Monday and make it up on the back end.

This is the perfect time to get a mac just in time so your new iphone won't have to ever meet your old computer :tounge: If he want's Garage Band really bad just take him to an apple store and let him play with it a little, I bet you'll probably be leaving with a new mac after he gets into other stuff. Yeah if you got a mac you guys could iChat with each other :wink: You gotta sell it to him with ever little feature even if you have to bring up the dumbest features just to make it look good. :laugh2:

bulls6pack

06-02-2009, 12:19 PM

Napoleon_PhoneApart

06-02-2009, 12:35 PM

This is the perfect time to get a mac just in time so your new iphone won't have to ever meet your old computer :tounge:

Actually, my iPhone and XP get along very well. It seems like quite a bit of iPhone "hacking" software comes out for Windows first, anyway.

I'm not denigrating Mac at all - I have a Leopard drive on my PC as well.

Napoleon_PhoneApart

06-02-2009, 12:36 PM

iphun

06-02-2009, 01:13 PM

The only thing that stinks about iChat is, you have to know someone with an iPhone, I think? It wouldnt be on other phones would it? If it is true about iPhone only, I only know 1 other person with an iPhone, and Im not close enough to that person to video chat all the time.

That's what I was saying about at&t probably not having a problem with it. They doubt it's going to be like calling someone, and even if you can chat with a mac or pc you still won't use that a whole lot either. It will be something it will have, but we will never really use and forget about. The front camera would get almost all it's use for taking pictures, I'm figuring they would let us take pictures with it.

adnurahs

06-02-2009, 01:18 PM

This is the perfect time to get a mac just in time so your new iphone won't have to ever meet your old computer :tounge: If he want's Garage Band really bad just take him to an apple store and let him play with it a little, I bet you'll probably be leaving with a new mac after he gets into other stuff. Yeah if you got a mac you guys could iChat with each other :wink: You gotta sell it to him with ever little feature even if you have to bring up the dumbest features just to make it look good. :laugh2:

LOL!! Sell it to him! I will do just that! LOL!! I know him, he's stubborn but if things make sense to him, he'll buy it, after an onslaught of questions for the sales people he might take that wallet out.

I'll see how it goes. The cheapest iMac $1,400, I think, is 1 billion % better than what we have now.

adnurahs

06-02-2009, 01:20 PM

Actually, my iPhone and XP get along very well. It seems like quite a bit of iPhone "hacking" software comes out for Windows first, anyway.

I'm not denigrating Mac at all - I have a Leopard drive on my PC as well.

I bet you have a lot of space on your PC and I gather it's not as old as 2001. My computer was born in 2001 :foot: and although it isn't dead yet, it is on life support and soon it may be pointless and we will have to pull the plug. :gasp:

Napoleon_PhoneApart

06-02-2009, 01:24 PM

I bet you have a lot of space on your PC and I gather it's not as old as 2001. My computer was born in 2001 :foot: and although it isn't dead yet, it is on life support and soon it may be pointless and we will have to pull the plug. :gasp:

Well, yeah - I rebuild from time to time and have around four terabytes of hard drive space to play with.

adnurahs

06-02-2009, 01:27 PM

Well, yeah - I rebuild from time to time and have around four terabytes of hard drive space to play with.

WHAT!!! Four Terabytes!! You are serious sir! Very very serious! That's cool and economical! You Rock! :2cool: I can definately say that! That is awesome. Puts my POS to shame indeed! WOW!

I guess I shouldn't be so impressed, but I would not want to upgrade my POS anymore than I already have.

I want to move on up to a MAC. But you are awesome my man, awesome!
Four whole Terabytes! :gasp:

Napoleon_PhoneApart

06-02-2009, 01:44 PM

WHAT!!! Four Terabytes!! You are serious sir! Very very serious! That's cool and economical! You Rock! :2cool: I can definately say that! That is awesome. Puts my POS to shame indeed! WOW!

I guess I shouldn't be so impressed, but I would not want to upgrade my POS anymore than I already have.

I want to move on up to a MAC. But you are awesome my man, awesome!
Four whole Terabytes! :gasp:

Four terabytes is nice, but it can also lead to sloppy "housekeeping" on the drives. I could probably free up another 500 gigs by doing another round of "housecleaning." :smile:

adnurahs

06-02-2009, 02:19 PM

Four terabytes is nice, but it can also lead to sloppy "housekeeping" on the drives. I could probably free up another 500 gigs by doing another round of "housecleaning." :smile:

I can imagine it's a big task to hae that much space. Can you partition it at all?

Londonrockz568

06-02-2009, 02:51 PM

Four terabytes is nice, but it can also lead to sloppy "housekeeping" on the drives. I could probably free up another 500 gigs by doing another round of "housecleaning." :smile:

Made my day lol.

cliffeman

06-02-2009, 04:30 PM

He'd never have to worry about having space issues storing his pr0n! :p

I've got a 2TB network drive.

Napoleon_PhoneApart

06-02-2009, 05:32 PM

He'd never have to worry about having space issues storing his pr0n! :p

I've got a 2TB network drive.

Actually, no porn.

And to adnurahs, yes, I partition them into several drives.

monkeysrock0622

06-02-2009, 07:16 PM

iphun

06-02-2009, 07:24 PM

Back on topic for a moment, if they put a front facing video camera you can bet that tons of phones will have them in the next year as everyone will be trying to catch up with Apple once again. You would probably be able to video chat with people on computers too. And as for the cost, even if AT&T decides to charge extra for it or not allow it on their network, you would be able to use it on WiFi.

Yep that's what I said :laugh2: They have become the one to model off of for successful phones, so in the coming years we would see almost every phone having video chat. That's a good point, I could see at&t saying there's enough wifi hotspots they offer for them to block it on their network. Plus if apple can't get the quality to their level of approval over the at&t network then they would make the decision themselves to make it wifi only.

styfle

06-02-2009, 07:27 PM

Sorry to burst anyones bubble but I don't see ichat coming to the iphone in the near future. We just don't have the bandwidth. Even if it was wi-fi only I just don't see it coming out yet. I could be way wrong though.

monkeysrock0622

06-02-2009, 07:45 PM

styfle

06-02-2009, 07:57 PM

You are probably right, but AT&T is also upgrading their system ahead of the iPhone launch. It doubles the speed of current 3G and every tower they have now can be upgraded by software and they are adding more towers this year. Plus they created a system to move some cell phones to 2G at certain times to create a better 3G environment for the smartphone users.
Exactly, all that just to keep BROWSING speeds normal. I mean if normal internet usage is killing AT&T, there's no way they can sustain video chat. Video chat requires a constant stream: upload and download for BOTH phones the chat. We would see cell towers on fire if there were video conferencing on the iphone.

iphun

06-02-2009, 08:01 PM

Exactly, all that just to keep BROWSING speeds normal. I mean if normal internet usage is killing AT&T, there's no way they can sustain video chat. Video chat requires a constant stream: upload and download for BOTH phones the chat. We would see cell towers on fire if there were video conferencing on the iphone.

And we would need one heck of a battery to handle the constant uploading and downloading because the current battery wouldn't stand a chance with video chat.

styfle

06-02-2009, 08:49 PM

And we would need one heck of a battery to handle the constant uploading and downloading because the current battery wouldn't stand a chance with video chat.
Oh yeah I totally forgot that. iChat kills my macbook battery: down from almost 7 hours to 2 hours.

mitchwisemen

06-20-2009, 09:49 AM

Look in the bottom right corner, it says that the image isn't the product you are going to see. I'm not sure about iChat coming, at least on at&t, but maybe some carriers will support it. Maybe we will see a front facing camera, but since the 4 and 8GB will most likely be budget versions that won't include the front facing camera and maybe other features in the higher priced versions.

http://www.slipperybrick.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/fido-leak-16a.jpg
wow~~awesome!!!!!!!!http://www.intocpa.com/flash/34/b/happy.gif

innocentmonda

06-26-2009, 09:52 AM

video chat will be the coolest section in iphone

Sloan Gretchen

07-11-2009, 05:50 AM

Now I could be wrong especially since iChat is a little different than streaming TV for example through Sling since there probably won't be tons of people that will be willing or able to do it since it will be an iphone only feature(at this time). I think if they do have it they might include it at an additional cost, but I think we already pay enough for the data so it's hard to say.

mr.conspiracist

07-12-2009, 07:06 PM

Hi iphun - Why don't you think AT&T will get iChat? Will it be an additional cost to us rather than just go in with the unlimited data package some people have? I thought maybe iChat was a software and would just go in with the unlimited package. I hope so.

the next thing they need is a bunch of phones sending video and not the regular voice while all the other users are downloading something
they should tho. they have video chat for regular phones ( video share i believe they call it )