Is this true?

[apple718]

today i went o the geek bar because my battery was dieing fast....he asked me if i am using an original apple charger or an aftermarket. i told him after market and he told me that's why my battery is dieing because it doesn't fully charge the iphone. was he BSing me or is this true?

[Adam1389]

As long as its putting out the correct voltage and amps, it shouldn't matter if its aftermarket or not.

[psylichon]

How "aftermarket" are we talking here? Did it have a "made for iPod" or "made for iPhone" logo on it?

[Adam1389]

Just curious too...What are your usage times?

[apple718]

it has a sticker that says "for iphone 3g"...lol
my usage times are:
Time since last full charge
usage: 0 mins
standby: 0 mins

call time

current period 1 hour 55 mins
lifetime 1 hour 55 mins

cellular network data
sent 8.4MB
recieved 118 MB

i have the phone currently on charge as i read these usage times to you...
should i just keep it on charge even if its full?

[Adam1389]

It won't hurt anything to keep it plugged in, the phone will cut the charge off when its full. Go as long as you can using the phone like normal and post your usage data here again. There might be a few changes you can make to save your battery life.

[apple718]

ok so since my last reply which was like a lil over an hour ago.. since then i took it off charge i downloaded 2 games and played them both for a little here is my usage.

time since last charge 1 hr 27 min
stand by 2 hrs 7 mins

call time the same as before

cellular network data

sent 9.0MB
received 131MB

there is some battery gone already...is this normal?? do you think the charger plays a role?

[apple718]

also just a little about my settings
push data is off
fetch is on 30min
location services is off
3g is off
wifi is off
screen light it set to about 10%

[Neo-Tech]

Woah! Your battery should be lasting ALOT longer if you've turned off most of the power hungry features. Try a normal charger or the USB port on your PC/Mac.

[Adam1389]

With 3G on, Push on, and fetch at 15 minutes, brightness at about 1/4, I am getting about 5 hours of usage, and maybe 8 hours of standby, that gets me down around 10%

[apple718]

so what do you guys/girls say should i buy an original apple charger or should i go to apple store and tell them to fix this problem.

[Adam1389]

Did you try charging off your USB port on a computer?

[apple718]

ye i did that before and its the same thing.

[Adam1389]

Same as with the aftermarket charger? Then it sounds like the charger is fine, your phone battery is in need of replacement. When you go back to the Apple store, tell them you are using an Apple charger this time ;) They won't know the difference.

[apple718]

lol ok thanks .... he also said he was going to try and restore my factory settings but then asked about the charger...do you think i should restore the phone to factory settings?

[Adam1389]

Just tell them you have restored it, the guy I talked to kept wanting to, but I told him I did a couple times with no change, he finally checked it off his list of things to do ;) Do a good backup though before you go in

[apple718]

ok thanks Adam i will go...and let you know how it goes.

[Adam1389]

Good luck. Don't take no for an answer ;)

[apple718]

ill be going tomorrow but just to tell you the battery already has the first bar gone...and i took the phone of charge an hr ago and wrote a few text messages .

[Neo-Tech]

So any luck? :)

[2white2fight]

Woah! Your battery should be lasting ALOT longer if you've turned off most of the power hungry features. Try a normal charger or the USB port on your PC/Mac.

yea dude thats bad it looks like you have turned off everything and your battery is not lasting long? that suckss

[apple718]

ye so i went to the store and told him my battery dies he started running tests then he started to give me a talk about my setting. my setting were all good..so he goes to me" i didn't find any problems with your iphone. you should consider this a privilege that i am changing you this iphone. we wont do it again" so i got mad and i told him that he should consider it a privilege that i baught an iphone and that it wasnt my problem weather or not he found a problem with the phone. i also told him ill come back again if there is a problem with the phone and he will change it for me. i told him i have warranty on this phone and that he can basically KISS MY ASS untill the warranty is over. i also told him its not my problem that he doesnt seem to find anything wrong with the phone. then he started saying we your seeting are not rite and this should be off and that should be off so i interupted him and told him" why dont you shut off the phone and this was it wont loose battery. this dude turned everything off and said now you should have a problem so i laughed at him...well anyways i got the new iphone he told me to run down the battery and put it on charge and so i did...i took it off this morning around 8am its now 1230 pm i made a few phone calls sent a few text messages and downloaded an app. my 3g is on push is off location if off 3g is on blue tooth is off screen screen is on the "g" in brightness. and here are my usage tell me if it seems normal..and also i am still using the aftermarket charger..and still debating weather or no i should get the original one.

time since last full charge
usage 1hr 19mins
standby 4hrs 16mins
call time
current period 1hr 57 mins
lifetime 1hr 57mins
cellular network data
sent 8.5MB
recieved
177MB

my battery has the first bar gone.
what do you think?

[aknightstale41]

Sounds like it worked out for you, except for the rude tech...for the most part thought there usually pretty helpful with exchanges and sevice.
coolbeans your back on iphone island.

[apple718]

lol thanks..but i still don't know what to do with the charger...the ones on eBay i don't trust because half of them are a bunch of crap and i don't want to pat $30 for the charger from apple

[psylichon]

Do you have auto-bright on? Turn that off if you haven't already.

[Conv5]

Congratz on full battery power:laugh2:

[apple718]

haha thanks...but i am still contemplating about the charger grrr

[shutter13]

I ran my battery down last week till it shut off. I got right at 6 hours of usage 1 Day and 13 hours of standby (none of the usage was iPod all of it internet, apps and video) before it shut off. I keep 3G on (even though no 3G network in my area), location services on, wifi on, autobrightness on and bluetooth off. This is average for me. If it's iPod usage I can get alot more.

[Conv5]

I ran my battery down last week till it shut off. I got right at 6 hours of usage 1 Day and 13 hours of standby (none of the usage was iPod all of it internet, apps and video) before it shut off. I keep 3G on (even though no 3G network in my area), location services on, wifi on, autobrightness on and bluetooth off. This is average for me. If it's iPod usage I can get alot more.

Same with my iPhone

[Neo-Tech]

Do you have auto-bright on? Turn that off if you haven't already.
Why would you want to do that? It's such an awesome feature :)

and well done OP, you should complain to Apple HQ though about that rep, I'm sure he'll get a telling off :)

[apple718]

ehh someone will come in one day and really set him straight.

[psylichon]

Why would you want to do that? It's such an awesome feature :)

I can't tell if you're joking or not. Auto-bright doesn't really make a difference in use for me, and if you're outside with it on, it will absolutely crank your brightness to a batter-withering extreme. The irony is that higher brightness really achieves nothing in direct sunlight, where the reflective light will be much stronger than anything the iPhone can churn out.

[Neo-Tech]

Nope, wasn't joking. Auto-Brightness makes it much easier for me in the sunlight, but that's probably because I am in the UK and the sun isn't as strong.

[psylichon]

Well, it would be a nice feature if it didn't cause such a strain on the battery. I recently recommended a friend here turn it off, and he got hours of extra usage per charge as a result.

[Bryman]

so i have a question

1. what does PUSH under fetch new data do? i have fetch to manual but PUSH is on. what is it?


im an iphone noob so be gentle.

[Neo-Tech]

Since I can't be bothered explaining, here:
http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en-GB&q=push+mail+on+iphone&sourceid=navclient-ff&rlz=1B3GGGL_en-GBGB320GB320&ie=UTF-8