The rumor mill has been quiet for too long [Archive]

Londonrockz568

05-04-2009, 10:31 AM

Alright guys/gals well its May, 1 month left before the new iphone comes out and whats bugging me the most is that its been "quiet" so to say.

The closer to release date the more things come up but is it still to soon?

psylichon

05-04-2009, 11:53 AM

It's probably not going to be released in June, you know. If something comes out this summer, it will likely follow the same schedule as last year: revealed in June, released in July.

I think all the main rumors are already in place regarding hardware enhancements. All we need now is those case design leaks and we're set for June.

chris

05-04-2009, 12:02 PM

Having spent the better half of the last few weeks reporting on Pre rumors (http://www.everythingpre.com/articles/categories/rumors/), I'm kind of glad we've taken a break from rumors at EIC. I suspect things should start ramping up if June will bring a new iPhone. Plenty of iPhone HD rumors a few weeks back, but things have quieted down. Calm before the Storm (ahem, new iPhone).

It's been nutty over there...

-Chris

Londonrockz568

05-04-2009, 12:19 PM

Yeah, like im so desperate for to see any type of leaked iphone images. I wana know what its gona look like.

If only governments had the secrecy that Apple has. Oh what a world.

2white2fight

05-04-2009, 12:45 PM

yea i just wana see what it looks like, i realy dont care for alot of upgrades. If everything is in hd, the battery life is going to go down.

Londonrockz568

05-04-2009, 12:55 PM

The battery life we dont know about yet. Allegedly they have a bigger capacity battery.

Napoleon_PhoneApart

05-04-2009, 12:57 PM

yea i just wana see what it looks like, i realy dont care for alot of upgrades. If everything is in hd, the battery life is going to go down.

I agree with London, despite all the nasty things he says about me. :smile:

You're assuming that the battery in the new iPhone will remain the same. I'm thinking that it'll be an upgraded design in order to better handle the extra demand forced upon it by (possible) HD recording, improved screen, etc.

Also, some of the chips in the new iPhone may be improved versions with lower power consumption characteristics.

Crap - I'm starting to get excited for the new iPhone! Again!

2white2fight

05-04-2009, 04:31 PM

I agree with London, despite all the nasty things he says about me. :smile:

You're assuming that the battery in the new iPhone will remain the same. I'm thinking that it'll be an upgraded design in order to better handle the extra demand forced upon it by (possible) HD recording, improved screen, etc.

Also, some of the chips in the new iPhone may be improved versions with lower power consumption characteristics.

Crap - I'm starting to get excited for the new iPhone! Again!

Ye they may be true but iam thinking it's gunna be worse. I hope the battery is bigger or more cells and last longer

Napoleon_PhoneApart

05-04-2009, 05:14 PM

It won't be worse.

danipoak

05-04-2009, 07:52 PM

Just think back to the new MBP. There were some significant battery updates in that thing. Why wouldn't they apply that technology on a smaller scale?

Mikozee

05-04-2009, 10:00 PM

There's no rumors because we've pretty much sapped the topic raisin dry.

Londonrockz568

05-04-2009, 10:10 PM

lol, there is no snapping up anything dry.

The battery has two choices.
Either apple makes the other chips/programs less demanding and more efficient thus taking less power and keeping the battery the same as it is with the 3G.

Or
They upgrade the battery performance and enhance the efficiency of the chips/programs inside the phone to be less demanding which is what i think they're doing.

Everything is exponential, and with a completely new model im pretty sure the chips are going to be more efficient and the battery will have more capacity. Lets not forget people, the iphone's battery in a standard razor would prolly keep the razor working for days.

Europa

05-05-2009, 04:23 AM

Hey London, the yellow in your sig hurts my eyes and I can't read the text anyway, (unless I drag my mouse over it to highlight it and change it to black).

Londonrockz568

05-05-2009, 04:29 AM

Adjust ur screen? I shall change it.

Phxblue

05-05-2009, 04:38 AM

I heard they are going to implement a translucent casing for the phone to assist in signal reception.

Londonrockz568

05-05-2009, 04:56 AM

I heard they are going to implement a translucent casing for the phone to assist in signal reception.

Not going to happen any time soon. Apple is all about looks and formfactor. I dont think many people will be pleased to see the circuit boards, solder, inards of the phone. People will liken it to being "cheap".

Phxblue

05-05-2009, 05:01 AM

Yeah, I made it up.

2white2fight

05-05-2009, 12:42 PM

i hope the screens bigger, and yea the processer power may be less because there upgrading and going " green" haha

psylichon

05-05-2009, 01:13 PM

seanwes

05-05-2009, 01:35 PM

Well, my prediction at this point:

Name: iPhone HD
HD video recording
HD video output
HD video editing
Upload to Youtube and other services
3.2 MP still camera with AF/macro (not so sure about flash)
Higher-rez screen (800x480)... same 3.5" size
Faster CPU with more system memory
Starts at 32GB
Similar form factor... perhaps thinner... back to aluminum for the casing
7.2 MBPS 3G speed (this will affect the current 3G as well)

And that's it! Certainly good enough for me!

http://messenger.msn.com/MMM2006-04-19_17.00/Resource/emoticons/thumbs_up.gif

Napoleon_PhoneApart

05-05-2009, 01:43 PM

Well, my prediction at this point:

Name: iPhone HD
HD video recording
HD video output
HD video editing
Upload to Youtube and other services
3.2 MP still camera with AF/macro (not so sure about flash)
Higher-rez screen (800x480)... same 3.5" size
Faster CPU with more system memory
Starts at 16GB
Similar form factor... perhaps thinner... back to aluminum for the casing
7.2 MBPS 3G speed (this will affect the current 3G as well)

And that's it! Certainly good enough for me!

+1!

Those updates would be schweeeet!

firewire

05-05-2009, 05:02 PM

I know I am reaching but an OLED screen would be a hell of an upgrade. Colors, contrast, thickness and power usage would all be improved with this one change.

psylichon

05-05-2009, 05:15 PM

That's a good point. I could add OLED to my prediction list without much hesitation this year.

Napoleon_PhoneApart

05-05-2009, 05:37 PM

That would be schweeeter!

JWiPhone

05-05-2009, 10:49 PM

I agree with everything on psylichon's list with one exception. I don't believe there will be an aluminum backing. I would be quite happy with that list. I think OLED technology is still a year away for the iPhone. I hope I'm wrong though.

Indy

05-05-2009, 10:50 PM

I'm a little suprised as well that its been so quiet here lately, or the past 2 weeks solid at least. I hunt for any and all snippets of info on a daily basis to keep the nextgen thread up to date and its a bummer to go day after day after day with little to no news. Ah well, maybe things will pick back up. Seems it did come to a screeching halt all of the sudden though. Can't wait till June 8th. ;)

psylichon

05-05-2009, 11:01 PM

I'm calling it... case photo leaks any day now...

2white2fight

05-06-2009, 01:14 PM

I'm calling it... case photo leaks any day now...

i know... that one with the black back may be it but iam hoping for a surdy back because the pastic on my iphone is garbage

billnye97

05-06-2009, 03:21 PM

Well, my prediction at this point:

Name: iPhone HD
HD video recording
HD video output
HD video editing
Upload to Youtube and other services
3.2 MP still camera with AF/macro (not so sure about flash)
Higher-rez screen (800x480)... same 3.5" size
Faster CPU with more system memory
Starts at 16GB
Similar form factor... perhaps thinner... back to aluminum for the casing
7.2 MBPS 3G speed (this will affect the current 3G as well)

And that's it! Certainly good enough for me!

With all of this what do you think the expected cost will be? That's a ton of stuff to still keep the $199 (low end model) and $299 (high end) pricepoint. I'm of course assuming everyone is going to extend their ATT contract another 2 years.

psylichon

05-06-2009, 03:26 PM

billnye97

05-06-2009, 03:36 PM

I've said it in another thread, but I'll repeat it here... I think the pricing structure this time around will look something like this:

8GB 3G: $99
16GB 3G: $199
16GB 3GHD: $299
32GB 3GHD: $399

Or something along those lines.

If they are going to push the HD aspect do you really think they will only start with 16GB? I think to really take advantage of it you would have to start with 32 and go up from there. Although I just need more storage for my musica and videos so I'd have to really think about upgrading (and missing out on three consecutive iDays) this time around.

psylichon

05-06-2009, 03:44 PM

Well, that's a good point. If they can do 64 GB, I think it will be available also, but they will price themselves out of the market a bit starting the new iPhone at 32GB, I think. With a faster CPU, it could do some serious compression on the fly, giving high-quality results with relatively small file sizes. It will have to shrink it down to upload to youtube, etc, after all.

Napoleon_PhoneApart

05-06-2009, 05:50 PM

Then again, with many of these parts probably being cheaper than they were a year ago, Apple may be able to maintain the same price points as last year.

gogoplata1980

05-06-2009, 06:01 PM

Hey guys, I'm new here but I just wanted to say I've been lurking around here for a few weeks and I really appreciate the info I get from guys like Indy and psylichon! Sorry to hijack a thread but I figured this didn't need a new thread being started. :)
I'm a G1 user who cannot wait to see if a new iPhone will be available this summer. I tried tricking myself into thinking the G1 could hang with the iPhone. It cannot.

iphun

05-06-2009, 07:49 PM

If they are going to push the HD aspect do you really think they will only start with 16GB? I think to really take advantage of it you would have to start with 32 and go up from there. Although I just need more storage for my musica and videos so I'd have to really think about upgrading (and missing out on three consecutive iDays) this time around.

I agree, I think it will go:

8GB 3G: $99
16GB 3G: $199
32GB 3GHD: $299
64GB 3GHD: $399

My reasoning is that I think instead of 8, 16, 16, 32, they would rather count up and not repeat. For example just like the above revisions to psylichons predictions, it would go 8, 16, 32, 64. And those new sizes would obviously be to handle the large HD pictures, video, etc. while allowing for tons of music, tv shows, movies, and of course those 11 pages of apps.

Londonrockz568

05-06-2009, 07:59 PM

Here's how im thinking it would be. I've added some to psy's post.

Iphone HD 16gig/32gig.
Features:
iLife:
{iMovie HD video recording
iMovie HD basic video editing
HD video output
iPhoto management of pictures
iWeb upload to Youtube/Facebook/MobileMe and other services}

Push Email
iChat as dedicated Instant Messenger app using front camera for video chats.
OSX GUI
Adobe Flash support limited

HardWare:
3.2 MP Video chat camera
5.0 MP Still Camera with AF/macro (not so sure about flash)

OLED Screen same 3.5" size (easily and cheaply made at this size. OLED's get expensive the bigger the screen size).

Faster CPU with more system memory, More efficient, smaller "greener" chipsets since this is a major upgrade.

7.2 MBPS 3G speed (this will affect the current 3G as well)

Similar form factor however it'll be lighter, thinner (due to OLED screen) back to aluminum for the casing. (This will also fit into the design language of apples other products. Maybe a variation like dull (v1) for 16gig, and Glossy (iTouch) for 32gig.

Thats all i could think of.

I want to see some leaked pictures already sighs...

gogoplata1980

05-06-2009, 08:05 PM

Man, you guys are getting me super excited for the new iPhone! For once in my life I'm in the position to get the better version of something instead of being an early adopter as I usually am!

billnye97

05-07-2009, 09:02 AM

I agree, I think it will go:

8GB 3G: $99
16GB 3G: $199
32GB 3GHD: $299
64GB 3GHD: $399

My reasoning is that I think instead of 8, 16, 16, 32, they would rather count up and not repeat. For example just like the above revisions to psylichons predictions, it would go 8, 16, 32, 64. And those new sizes would obviously be to handle the large HD pictures, video, etc. while allowing for tons of music, tv shows, movies, and of course those 11 pages of apps.

I think that would be nice and I would be comfortable with the pricepoints (even though they are a little high for the average joe). I guess the thinking would be that if you want a cheap iPhone go with the current 3G and if you want a higher end model go with the 3GHD.

Londonrockz568

05-07-2009, 04:38 PM

Steve loves boasting. He's obv gona price it nicely so that Apple sells a record number of them better than what they did with the 3G.

billnye97

05-08-2009, 11:40 AM

Steve loves boasting. He's obv gona price it nicely so that Apple sells a record number of them better than what they did with the 3G.

Well that's what I'm hoping for at least. Between this and a trip to England I'm gonna be broke this summer.

Londonrockz568

05-19-2009, 12:38 PM

I knew it. I just knew apple was going to use a oled screen.

Indy

05-19-2009, 12:47 PM

@londonrocks ?

gogoplata1980

05-19-2009, 01:08 PM

I knew it. I just knew apple was going to use a oled screen.

Break out with your inside info! :)
You can't bring up something like that and not cite your sources! :tounge:

Indy

05-19-2009, 01:14 PM

Maybe this? http://cultofmac.com/new-iphone-specs-launch-date-leaked/10921

gogoplata1980

05-19-2009, 01:25 PM

Maybe this? http://cultofmac.com/new-iphone-specs-launch-date-leaked/10921

Yeah, I think you're right, as usual! :tounge:
Man, that phone looks amazing. The specs certainly are impressive if true.
I hope this is real because it helps me hold out for this new one easier.
I just wish that the "Nokia" stated release date of July 1st was the date as opposed to the July 17th date.

Londonrockz568

05-20-2009, 01:08 AM

lol. Nokia's still exist? Seriously

When the iPhone came out, its like all those other phones kinda disappeared. Now its the "in thing" to have a smart phone instead of a what is now called "basic" phone.

The only thing people hear about now, are Samsung, iPhone, Blackberry and a little of Motorola.

But i Digress. I was right that apple was gona use OLED screens. They are cheap when this small, and since the OLED printing process is very thin (and cheaply done at a small size alota space can be free'd up or eliminated thus making the device iTouch thin (oh joy one can hope). Im really contemplating camping outside the Miami Apple store or stalking the mall security in Aventura when the doors open for this.

lehuukha

05-20-2009, 03:06 PM

I'm still debating whether I should get the new one or not. But either way the specs are sick.

amendolaro

05-20-2009, 10:24 PM

lies i tell u!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

amendolaro

05-20-2009, 10:31 PM

lolllllllllllllllllll

atran4321

05-21-2009, 06:02 PM

I have a feeling its going to be the same iphone with just better specs and maybe slightly better battery life due to OLED.

Londonrockz568

05-23-2009, 02:37 AM

How can you say that when the specs have been leaked already lol.

Lets not forget, this is a MAJOR overhaul of the iPhone. To put it into perspective, its as big as Apple changing everything on their computers from the White plastic to the sleek Aluminum.

Napoleon_PhoneApart

05-23-2009, 06:18 AM

Londonrockz568

05-23-2009, 04:15 PM

Yeah that true, but judging by my other post. Apple is going to just refresh the 3G in Chromatic colours with 3.0 software and sell the 32gb as the completely overhauled, new software and new hardware 3.5 mp camera etc etc one.

psylichon

05-23-2009, 04:55 PM

London, that color thing was a mockup! Why are you acting like it's a confirmed rumor or something?

Londonrockz568

05-23-2009, 07:31 PM

Because its more fodder lolz

Napoleon_PhoneApart

05-23-2009, 07:56 PM

Leave my fodder (and my mudder) outta this!

Londonrockz568

05-23-2009, 10:37 PM

Lol napy. Are u gona get the new iphone?

Napoleon_PhoneApart

05-23-2009, 11:11 PM

Lol napy. Are u gona get the new iphone?

In a heartbeat!

Londonrockz568

05-23-2009, 11:41 PM

Sweet! i dont know if i should get one when they come out or wait like 3 or 4 weeks after the initial "outa stock" or lines die down. U gona camp or wait in line?!

Napoleon_PhoneApart

05-23-2009, 11:44 PM

Knowing me and the last two iPhone releases, I'll be camping in line. :smile:

2white2fight

05-24-2009, 12:10 AM

so iam suprised that i havent seen any connection rumors. Like faster 3g speeds, or longer range radio, or like 802.11n wifi antenna

Napoleon_PhoneApart

05-24-2009, 12:24 AM

so iam suprised that i havent seen any connection rumors. Like faster 3g speeds, or longer range radio, or like 802.11n wifi antenna

Here ya go:

http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/09/04/04/next_ipod_touch_iphone_to_support_low_power_802_11 n_mode.html