How different is the new iPhone gonna be?

[isal]

What do you think?

By reading the forum, it seems that the new iPhone isn't going to be much different from the current 3G. Apart from the updated Camera and Memory. What's your guess?

I've personally gotten so bored with the iPhone shape and look. Apple should make something absolutely new and different.

I would prefer to get a HTC Touch HD rather than a "NEW" iPhone. Would you upgrade to the new iPhone?

[iNinja]

Thats the only other phone that has caught my eye, but not the one with the qwerty keyboard, just the touchscreen one.

However, i just dont think i couldnt upgrade to the new iphone, i love the 3g and the new 3.0 just makes it better!

[acosmichippo]

I think the basic iPhone design is perfect.

[psylichon]

I understand the desire for different toys every so often, but seriously how much can you change the design of an iPhone and still have it be an iPhone? The shape, the size, the home button... it's all iconic at this point and I don't see them straying very far from this now-famous form factor.

In my opinion, it should really only get thinner and be made of different materials but everything else (cosmetically) is fine.

[isal]

I understand the desire for different toys every so often, but seriously how much can you change the design of an iPhone and still have it be an iPhone? The shape, the size, the home button... it's all iconic at this point and I don't see them straying very far from this now-famous form factor.

In my opinion, it should really only get thinner and be made of different materials but everything else (cosmetically) is fine.

I upgraded to an iPhone 3G and returned it in 2 days, because there was nothing different than the V1 I have. I feel the V1 looks so much better than the 3G.

Compare the Touch HD, Omnia HD and N97 with the iPhone, the iPhone looks premitive. Windows 6.5 is SO much better looking that the iPhone OS. I thought they were going to change/upgrade the look, but that's not gonna happen. There is no home screen with the iPhone. The 6.5 home screen with the widgets is amazing.

I'm not saying change the look of the phone. I mean update it. Make it look different so that there is a logical reson for one to upgrade. And for god's sake, CHANGE the menu screen!

They've already robbed us by not giving the features they are eventually going to provide in 3.0, built in when the V1 came out. It took 2 years for the iPhone to have cut-copy and MMS. The no-MMS in V1 is absolute crap.

I'm gonna wait till June, if there is no change, I'm going with the Touch HD.

[psylichon]

Well now we're simply talking opinions, and I just disagree with a lot of yours. I think the iPhone is still the sexiest, simplest, best phone out there. Adding bells and whistles and new stuff just for the sake of new stuff doesn't interest me. To each his own, though.

[acosmichippo]

I love my v1 as much as anyone, but disagree with pretty much everything else.

I haven't seen any phone (available in the us) that makes the iPhone look primitive... And DEFINITELY not a windows mobile phone.

[Napoleon_PhoneApart]

The iPhone is the iconic "cool" phone. Why change a winning appearance dramatically when the present one works?

[Terry M.]

Wow. I couldn't disagree more about WinMo OS. One main reason I switched to the iPhone was to get away from that horrible OS that kept freezing and needing reset.

[JWiPhone]

I agree with Psylichon. It is the simplicity and intuitive interface that makes the iPhone a cut above its competition. I feel the OS is also a much smoother system compared to the WinMO system. The only changes I would like to see is the path Apple is taking with improved camera, updated 3.0 firmware, and improved processor. Hopefully, one day we will see multi-core and OLED screens, but I hope the basic design stays the same.

[Youngbinks]

I too imagine it won't have a drastic change from the current look or appeal. Maybe a different color or casing, but the overall look I believe will remain the same.

[isal]

I have used Windows Mobile for 4 years in three different phones and I haven't found it any better feature wise than the iPhone OS. The look of the iPhone OS makes it better. There is nothing that the iPhone offers that Windows doesn't other than multi-touch. Windows Mobile 6.5 comes very close to the iPhone in the smoothness and surpasses it in usability in my opinion.

I have no complain with the present iPhone, the only thing I would hate to see Apple doing is keeping the same design with just an upgraded camera and memory. Omnia HD offers a bigger screen and a 8 megapixel camera. With the maybe new iPhone this summer I hope they have something comparable to that.

A leaner design (much like the original iPhone, I don't mind a little thickness infact, the V1 is so much better to hold), a bigger screen, HD camabilities, 32 GB memory and atleast a 5 megapixel camera WITH flash and an actual homescreen and we would yet again have a perfect phone.

I have a V1 and a 3G and I love them and I would hate to part with them!

[ADDam]

I HOPE the new iPhone is the same shape of the 3G, but aluminum like the 1st gen. I don't want it to be any thinner, my sister has a iPod Touch and it just doesn't feel as good in the hands.

Ooo, How about a rubberized MATTE Black aluminum!?

[acosmichippo]

Anodized.

But apparently that process is very un-green.

[Youngbinks]

Green shmeen. Anodized looks awesome.

[Napoleon_PhoneApart]

Green shmeen. Anodized looks awesome.

Thanks, Youngbinks..

Screw green - give us what we want.

[scottjf8]

I HOPE the new iPhone is the same shape of the 3G, but aluminum like the 1st gen. I don't want it to be any thinner, my sister has a iPod Touch and it just doesn't feel as good in the hands.

Ooo, How about a rubberized MATTE Black aluminum!?

I think they moved from aluminum to plastic in the 3G one is because of the GPS chip reception.

[acosmichippo]

yes, that is their excuse.

[ADDam]

Titanium? Pure Silver?

[acosmichippo]

kryptonite.

now THAT is green.

[Napoleon_PhoneApart]

And red. And white.

[unnecessary]

I upgraded to an iPhone 3G and returned it in 2 days, because there was nothing different than the V1 I have. I feel the V1 looks so much better than the 3G.

Compare the Touch HD, Omnia HD and N97 with the iPhone, the iPhone looks premitive. Windows 6.5 is SO much better looking that the iPhone OS. I thought they were going to change/upgrade the look, but that's not gonna happen. There is no home screen with the iPhone. The 6.5 home screen with the widgets is amazing.

I'm not saying change the look of the phone. I mean update it. Make it look different so that there is a logical reson for one to upgrade. And for god's sake, CHANGE the menu screen!

They've already robbed us by not giving the features they are eventually going to provide in 3.0, built in when the V1 came out. It took 2 years for the iPhone to have cut-copy and MMS. The no-MMS in V1 is absolute crap.

I'm gonna wait till June, if there is no change, I'm going with the Touch HD.

LOL you said Windows Mobile

[damstr]

I upgraded to an iPhone 3G and returned it in 2 days, because there was nothing different than the V1 I have. I feel the V1 looks so much better than the 3G.

Compare the Touch HD, Omnia HD and N97 with the iPhone, the iPhone looks premitive. Windows 6.5 is SO much better looking that the iPhone OS. I thought they were going to change/upgrade the look, but that's not gonna happen. There is no home screen with the iPhone. The 6.5 home screen with the widgets is amazing.

I'm not saying change the look of the phone. I mean update it. Make it look different so that there is a logical reson for one to upgrade. And for god's sake, CHANGE the menu screen!

They've already robbed us by not giving the features they are eventually going to provide in 3.0, built in when the V1 came out. It took 2 years for the iPhone to have cut-copy and MMS. The no-MMS in V1 is absolute crap.

I'm gonna wait till June, if there is no change, I'm going with the Touch HD.
Wow. The 3G iphone is worlds better then the V1. Design and all. The metal backing on the V1 was a terrible choice. The plastic backing on the 3G helps it stay in your hand. Also feels better holding it.

[iGal]

The new phone will be black or white, just like the 3G version.

Theorize all you want, but that's what it'll be!

[glsda]

The new phone will be black or white, just like the 3G version.

Theorize all you want, but that's what it'll be!


And that settles that. lol :tounge:

[danipoak]

What can they really change about the form factor? It's a touch screen phone. There are no buttons to change, changing the shape would be just weird, what do you want? A screen that starts off wide at the bottom then narrows as it goes up? All there is to change is to make it slimmer as the technology gets better.

[psylichon]

I obviously agree. It's a slate phone with an iconic home button. It's not going to change drastically any time soon.

[firewire]

I just hope they don't pull a fast one like they did with the white 3G only being available in the 16gb version. I bought the 16gb ONLY for the white color. In essence I paid 100 dollars for a 2 by 4 inch piece of plastic.

[kisstine]

Wow. The 3G iphone is worlds better then the V1. Design and all. The metal backing on the V1 was a terrible choice. The plastic backing on the 3G helps it stay in your hand. Also feels better holding it.

I love it when someone else says that out loud. Sometimes I feel like I'm the only person on the planet who prefers the plastic over the aluminum. My v1 was slippery. My 3G, not a bit. The curved design and plastic back were key to that and tremendous improvements in my opinion.

[Napoleon_PhoneApart]

I prefer the plastic back as well, kisstine.

[psylichon]

Mmmm... grippy rubberized finish: bring it. That rumor from Indy today was sweeeet...

[Napoleon_PhoneApart]

Mmmm... grippy rubberized finish: bring it. That rumor from Indy today was sweeeet...

I like that idea as well...

[acosmichippo]

i thought that was only one of three prototypes being developed...

anyway, there's plenty you can do to aluminum to make it more "grippy", but not much you can do with plastic to make it more durable... other than adding more plastic, of course.

[psylichon]

there's plenty you can do to aluminum to make it more "grippy"

See, I disagree.

Metal can only be corrugated or roughened-up. I don't want a "scrapey-feeling" coarse finish metal, nor do I want a fine matte-finish metal (which would basically be my current V1 aluminum... too slippery).

What's held up most impressively is my rubberized plastic case. All scratches literally rub right out of it even after 1.5 years. I don't know how they do it. If Apple could combine that finish with the strength of a metal underbacking, they would have a winner in my book.

[acosmichippo]

that's what i was getting at.

if you start with an aluminum base, the durability is there in a small form factor. If you want to change the texture, it's only a matter of applying a thin finish or skin.

on the other hand, if you start with a plastic case, then to get the same kind of durability of an aluminum case, you've gotta add a thick plastic case.

[iphun]

that's what i was getting at.

if you start with an aluminum base, the durability is there in a small form factor. If you want to change the texture, it's only a matter of applying a thin finish or skin.

on the other hand, if you start with a plastic case, then to get the same kind of durability of an aluminum case, you've gotta add a thick plastic case.

I like the idea of it but I could see the material applied to the aluminum base wearing off and looking like crap. Now the leaked photos a while back I liked and wouldn't mind that and I don't mind the current look. Really it doesn't matter what they do I know it will look good :laugh2:

[acosmichippo]

i'd still prefer straight aluminum. let people add a skin or case if they want grippines.

[iphun]

i'd still prefer straight aluminum. let people add a skin or case if they want grippines.

Definitely, I would love an aluminum case with a similar shape of the 3g.
It sounds like it could be a possibility and here (http://www.everythingicafe.com/forum/future-iphones/nextgeniphone-predictions-on-new-hardware-and-release-dates-40204-74.html#post443775) in the bold print it is mentioned that the chrome bezel is removed, so maybe they want the aluminum(or any similar metal) to be the highlight of the phone.

[psylichon]

I will use a case regardless of what finish they use, so I just hope they make it as thin as possible.

[amendolaro]

diff enought to buy new one!

[energie]

To the people that prefer plastic - your nuts. Just put a skin on it as acosmichippo suggested. I know some of you are all for Apple making the most profit possible, but Apple can definitely learn something from Nokia regarding build quality.

[kisstine]

To the people that prefer plastic - your nuts. Just put a skin on it as acosmichippo suggested. I know some of you are all for Apple making the most profit possible, but Apple can definitely learn something from Nokia regarding build quality.

My nuts what? There's no verb there, plus I have no nuts. If what you meant was "you're nuts," then you should have said so, though you'd still be mistaken.

I had my v1 for over a year before upgrading. I've had my 3G for nearly a year now. I feel 100% qualified to weigh my experiences with both devices and prioritize my preferences. I've always liked the look of the v1, but I had no durability problems with either phone and the curve of the 3G's plastic has always felt better in my hand AND, more importantly, the reception was vastly improved.

[dturner]

My nuts what? There's no verb there, plus I have no nuts. If what you meant was "you're nuts," then you should have said so, though you'd still be mistaken.

LMAO Good one!!!

[acosmichippo]

While you may not have had durability issues with your 3g, surely you can acknowledge that it has been an issue for a lot of people.

And an aluminum case can be curved just like the 3g's.

[Phxblue]

While you may not have had durability issues with your 3g, surely you can acknowledge that it has been an issue for a lot of people.

And an aluminum case can be curved just like the 3g's.

True True. But I prefer my phone naked and the aluminum is sooo slippery.

[Phxblue]

I like the way the plastic 3G feels in hand too. The aluminum was nice too but too slippery.

[energie]

My nuts what? There's no verb there, plus I have no nuts. If what you meant was "you're nuts," then you should have said so, though you'd still be mistaken.

I had my v1 for over a year before upgrading. I've had my 3G for nearly a year now. I feel 100% qualified to weigh my experiences with both devices and prioritize my preferences. I've always liked the look of the v1, but I had no durability problems with either phone and the curve of the 3G's plastic has always felt better in my hand AND, more importantly, the reception was vastly improved.

My 3G had gotten hairline cracks within 2 months of owning it. I exchanged it for another one and same deal (and that was with swapping sims with a minimum of 4 other phones so it barely got used). I decided to take the plunge and get a 1st gen. Couldn't be happier as it actually feels SOLID in comparison, and no hairline cracks. I guess in the end it's just a matter of opinion, and that I could have been having a streak of bad luck.

[psylichon]

energie, don't come into a new forum with guns blazing. Kisstine is a really sweet person who was just making a light-hearted joke.

edit: thanks for the edit. :)

[energie]

Extremely sorry about that, it went right over my head and I overreacted (for nothin').

[psylichon]

And life goes on... :)

Welcome to EIC, energie.

[Cantwait4iPhone]

Personally, I never really understood the fact about the original being slippery or uncomfortable in your hand. Just me.

I do understand that the feel of the 3G is very nice, though, and I guess I like it either way. I am not quite familiar with the amount that aluminum affects connection strength, but I'm assuming it was significant if Apple made the change. Other things like cost factor certainly swayed their decision as well.

I think in any case it's fair to say that Apple is likely never going to go back to aluminum. I have seen 3Gs dropped, and I've certainly dropped my V1 a good amount of times, and neither took severe damage. While there are companies with higher-quality build, Apple seems to be doing a decent job.

Welcome, energie.

[kisstine]

energie, thank you for the apology and for the PM. no worries. plus, i didn't even get to see how nasty whatever you said even was because it was edited before i knew it was an issue. please feel free to disagree with me anytime; i respect almost every opinion here. welcome to EiC.

and dave, i'm gonna pretend you rode in on that big, white horse to come to my defense because of that secret crush you have on me instead of just because you're a mod. 'kay? :wink:

[energie]

Thanks for being cool about it kisstine! And thanks for the welcomes guys.

[connie]

Work on the inside (software, better camera, video, all the other stuff you guys want) they can change the outside up a little but sleek and simple is how Apple usually goes.
I say improve the inside, the outside is just fine.

[connie]

will the new iphone come with the dock like the first iphone had? i miss that with my 3g

Would be nice, but if I had to guess I'd say no, I don't see any of Apple's products coming with a lot of extras anymore.

[kevlar08]

will the new iphone come with the dock like the first iphone had? i miss that with my 3g

to be honest id prefer the new iphone to have a magnetic charging dock like the pre

[iphun]

to be honest id prefer the new iphone to have a magnetic charging dock like the pre

I don't think apple will ever do this until it can sync with itunes through the magnetic dock. But hey I could be wrong, I mean that could be another accessory to sell and make them $$$.

[kevlar08]

I don't think apple will ever do this until it can sync with itunes through the magnetic dock. But hey I could be wrong, I mean that could be another accessory to sell and make them $$$.

agreed probably wont happen but itd be something id love to see. Also with the new bluetooth capability's what is keeping the next gen iphone from connecting via bluetooth?

[iphun]

agreed probably wont happen but itd be something id love to see. Also with the new bluetooth capability's what is keeping the next gen iphone from connecting via bluetooth?

Well I don't think they will be separating themselves from the cable for a while. But I do think we should have a sync OTA option, the Pre has this so should the iphone. I'm not saying it needs to be as extensive as the physical itunes sync, but some vital things should be synced OTA. I'm guessing since we can't use the phone when it's being synced they figure it should just be connected with the cable.

[Clairelc6]

Whats so cool about wirelessly charging your phone if you still have to connect it to something. Apple is able to multitask with it's charging port making the phone very streamlined. Why would they want to go through the trouble of developing this new technology if what they have works well and fast?

[Phxblue]

Whats so cool about wirelessly charging your phone if you still have to connect it to something. Apple is able to multitask with it's charging port making the phone very streamlined. Why would they want to go through the trouble of developing this new technology if what they have works well and fast?

Maybe I am in dunce mode at the moment but I don't understand what your post is implying. :confused:

[Clairelc6]

someone said that apple should have the wireless charger for the iphone because the pre does. but either way you still have to dock your phone, might aswell be able to update it aswell as charge it.

maybe there wasnt a point, or maybe i am saying just because it seems like a cool concept does not necessarily make it useful.

[acosmichippo]

The main positive i see is a smaller chance of the connection wearing out or breaking.

[Clairelc6]

True, but over time anything breaks. :) I'm not sure how reliable the wireless charger would be, looks like i will have to do some research!

[iphun]

someone said that apple should have the wireless charger for the iphone because the pre does. but either way you still have to dock your phone, might aswell be able to update it aswell as charge it.

maybe there wasnt a point, or maybe i am saying just because it seems like a cool concept does not necessarily make it useful.

I don't think there's any point to having wireless charging. That's how I've always seen it, the usb cable is an all in one cable - syncing, charging, updating, restoring it handles it all. Until they can do all that through wireless charging they won't stop using the usb cable. Now if we can get wireless charging to where it just charges by itself when it's in your pocket then I am interested. The pre charges $20 for the back cover and $50 for the wireless dock, and to me that's not worth it just to wirelessly charge.

[acosmichippo]

in its current state, i tend to agree with you. The whole point of wireless technology is to not be tied down, but if the phone needs to be in contact with a special dock to charge "wirelessly", then that benefit is lost.

At any rate, it's an idea worth pursuing. wireless syncing should be easily achievable soon, and who knows, maybe something like solar or kinetic charging may make its way into phones. I bet in ten years they won't ever have to be plugged into anything.