AT&T MMS is now working!

[TAEWING59]

Just updated to the Beta 2 of iPhone OS 3.0 and MMS is working!

[TAEWING59]

btw i still have spots open :D
email me at: taewing509@yahoo.com

[shillingem]

Nice! I am downloading the newest version now, so we'll see what happens...
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[mitchellm4]

Nice! I am downloading the newest version now, so we'll see what happens...
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same here! im excited!!!

[stapes]

Still not working for me dang it !! Just called ATT and got my iphone text plan switched to a standard messaging plan and still no dice. Oh wellz

[Watcher]

btw i still have spots open :D
email me at: taewing509@yahoo.com
Mine doesn't work! YouTube still doesn't work either. :frown:

[TAEWING59]

well mine works haha sorry mine works, its strange YouTube is still a no go.

[kevlar08]

well mine works haha sorry mine works, its strange YouTube is still a no go.

restoring as a new phone seems to fix the youtube problem

[kevlar08]

i just updated to beta 2 and still no go on the mms

[Watcher]

restoring as a new phone seems to fix the youtube problem
That's too much of a hassle as I don't have a MobileMe or those other syncing apps. I'm not convinced that the loss of YouTube is worth starting from scratch. I'll wait until they patch that one.

[kevlar08]

That's too much of a hassle as I don't have a MobileMe or those other syncing apps. I'm not convinced that the loss of YouTube is worth starting from scratch. I'll wait until they patch that one.

if you dont have mobileme yahoo is another great way to sync your contacts at least

[BrownGem]

Yahoo works great. If you use yahoo messenger though....allllll of those contacts are in that window when you sign on. I back up contacts through yahoo but I rarely use the messenger. Might wanna just keep that in mind..for those of you that need ...privacy :)

[BrownGem]

I actually wonder if MMS is going to work when the firmware is released...for EVERYONE. I see some pissed off people and phone calls in our future.

[hotskate]

mine isnt working but youtube is anyone kow if i do a restore it will work or any other ideas?

[Watcher]

I actually wonder if MMS is going to work when the firmware is released...for EVERYONE. I see some pissed off people and phone calls in our future.
Seriously! I don't understand why they would wait to enable such an anticipated and therefore important feature until the public release. They're just asking for trouble. Just let us test it already! However, it might just be that AT&T was peeved and considered the activation of MMS a breach of contract on Apple's part. I hope they don't increase the cost of the data package when it comes out. :gasp:

[Watcher]

if you dont have mobileme yahoo is another great way to sync your contacts at least
Thanks, man. I decided to use my highly ignored Outlook and sync it that way because I need to restore this puppy as a new phone. I didn't realize how much I used YouTube!

[Watcher]

mine isnt working but youtube is anyone kow if i do a restore it will work or any other ideas?
I believe the people who got it to work were lucky by getting an AT&T rep to provision MMS on their accounts before they decided to do the massive ban on it from here forward. Lucky blokes! :tounge:

[hotskate]

thats the only way?

[Watcher]

thats the only way?
As far as I know, yeah. I believe someone else mentioned having the jailbroken app SwirlyMMS prior to the 3.0 update and after they updated, MMS worked. It might have something to do with the settings SwirlyMMS configured, though.

[cdelauz]

I just got a MMS this morning, so Im good. I had ATT provision my MMS before this whole chaos.

[hotskate]

what did you say ?

[shutter13]

As far as I know, yeah. I believe someone else mentioned having the jailbroken app SwirlyMMS prior to the 3.0 update and after they updated, MMS worked. It might have something to do with the settings SwirlyMMS configured, though.

Actually it had nothing to do with the settings, since I set up as a new phone, nothing from swirly was left over. My point was that MMS was already enabled on my acct. With beta 1 I had to use the hacked ipcc file to get mms working. with beta 2, setting up as a new phone, it just worked (maybe the ipcc file is not altered when you update?).

To get AT&T to provision MMS your going to have to be tricky, or have a good friend that works for them, or take the people out of the equation and trick the system. Methods of how have been posted several times since beta 1 came out.

[Watcher]

Oops, my misunderstanding.

[jcrusor]

I just confirmed it on my phone.

A bit slow but it does work!

[bwise05]

I just spoke with AT&T and told her to check my provisions and change the mms messaging and change to on so that I can test mms features on 3.0 and she did and then she said okay enjoy ur mms messaging. And someone there told her she couldn't do it. And she reveresed it. I'm going to try again later. But my guess is if u are bold to the point. They may allow it!

[TAEWING59]

Pop your sim card in another mms phone and try to send one. If it doesn't send then its your acc. Keep the sim in there and call AT&T. I did try the ipcc and it didn't work so I went back to the original. So try that and let us know.

[Hondamaker]

Actually it had nothing to do with the settings, since I set up as a new phone, nothing from swirly was left over. My point was that MMS was already enabled on my acct. With beta 1 I had to use the hacked ipcc file to get mms working. with beta 2, setting up as a new phone, it just worked (maybe the ipcc file is not altered when you update?).

To get AT&T to provision MMS your going to have to be tricky, or have a good friend that works for them, or take the people out of the equation and trick the system. Methods of how have been posted several times since beta 1 came out.I need that ipcc file since I deleted it. Where can I get it?

[shutter13]

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=N5ZSO0H8

I just uploaded that one, that's the one I used on beta 1. Word of warning...I have read that the file still works on beta 2, but am not sure, I have not used it on the second beta, didn't need it.

[Napoleon_PhoneApart]

I used the same ipcc files with 3.0 beta 2 as I did with 3.0 beta 1 and it seems to be working fine for me.

[inkhead]

Everyone here listen up. Don't tell them that, they know about iPhone. Here's how you can easily call and get the planned changed.

When you call let them know you will be using a blackberry for a while and switching back and forth between your iphone and your work blackberry for business trip. Tell them someone told you to get a regular TXT package, and MMS so you can have WORKING text messages on your trip that don't cost you $600 or your boss will be pissed.

Or just say you are going to try out a friends blackberry for the weekend to see if you like it better.

Anything along those lines. They can't not change your plan, the contract states you can change the plan to anything you like upgrade or downgrade, and it states you may use different phones.

I just spoke with AT&T and told her to check my provisions and change the mms messaging and change to on so that I can test mms features on 3.0 and she did and then she said okay enjoy ur mms messaging. And someone there told her she couldn't do it. And she reveresed it. I'm going to try again later. But my guess is if u are bold to the point. They may allow it!

[hotskate]

so i got them to put my mms on :) and mms is not working on the phone. i did look at my att.com account and it shows its a regular unlimited text plan with mms picture etc. any ideas

[TAEWING59]

Try putting your sim card into an orginal mms phone and see if it works that's what I did before beta 2 came out. Then put it back into to iPhone and see if it works

[shutter13]

Also make sure you have rebooted your phone since the change was made. Otherwise the changes won't take effect.

[hotskate]

i restarted it ...

[hotskate]

http://www.mypicx.com/04022009/ATT/

[TAEWING59]

has anyone tried putting the sim card into a diff phone?

[shutter13]

You should try taewing's suggestion first, if you can send and receive MMS in an MMS supported phone, and after putting the sim back in the iPhone you cannot....you can try updating to this ipcc. It will add a menu to your network settings tab to add in the APN, Username and Password for the network.

APN should be wap.cingular rname and password blank, these settings work for me.
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=N5ZSO0H8

http://www.naturecoastphotography.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/001%7E1.PNGhttp://www.naturecoastphotography.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/002%7E4.PNG

[hotskate]

I have to find someone with a different att phone... I am looking at the screen shot you posted i do not have that option in my phone... Internet tethering and cellular data network

[shutter13]

I have to find someone with a different att phone... I am looking at the screen shot you posted i do not have that option in my phone... Internet tethering and cellular data network

you won't see those options unless you update your carrier settings with the ipcc file I posted. Until I used it, I didn't have them either, but mms still worked so you may not need to use it.

[wildonrio]

Mine still doesn't work. What am I doing wrong?


at&t ipcc 5.0 carrier file loaded
account provisioned for mms by at&t rep
on 3.0 beta 2

EDIT: Now it works. It just took a while to kick in. I also had to restart my phone.

[hotskate]

Okay i know im asking so many questions but that file you posted how and why does it differ from what apple gave out for the beta 2

[shutter13]

Can you send a message with your sim in a different phone?

[shutter13]

Okay i know im asking so many questions but that file you posted how and why does it differ from what apple gave out for the beta 2

To my knowledge it opens up the options posted in the screen shots.

[hotskate]

but that isp was not released from apple right?

[shutter13]

The ipcc was hacked, it is not official.

[hotskate]

Thanks for the info.

[TAEWING59]

okay well accidentaly clicked the wrong file and updated my IPCC and not MMS doesnt work

[TAEWING59]

nvm it does now. idk why it works now. cause i couldnt for anything get it to work in the old MMS phone. so i had them switch me to a MEdia Net Unlim plan. and didnt work so i hung up called back and had everything switched back. put the sim back in iPhone 3G. and it works. what the hell ever. it works thats all i care about

[hotskate]

Wait up so how is your plan setup now?

[TAEWING59]

Family Messaging. iPhone 3G Data.

[koolhand79]

i dunno whats going on with my mms. i put my sim in another phone and it sent one. i put it in the iphone and nothing. it just seems to randomly work

[lowram00]

yea i put my sim in a other phone and back in my iphone and mms worked then it stoped

[shutter13]

I have read that putting the phone in airplane mode then switching it back can get it working again, maybe it makes the phone re-register with the network, don't know why it would work. You might also check your wifi, some have said mms won't work with wifi turned one, my experience has been that is doesn't matter.

[TAEWING59]

Mine doesn't work anymore

[iphun]

I have read that putting the phone in airplane mode then switching it back can get it working again, maybe it makes the phone re-register with the network, don't know why it would work. You might also check your wifi, some have said mms won't work with wifi turned one, my experience has been that is doesn't matter.

If mms ever stops working for me putting the phone into airplane mode always seems to correct it. Maybe when you log back in (reconnect) to the system it puts you on the mms provisioned server again since they may have switched you to back the iphone servers.

[TAEWING59]

Stoped working. And I didn't do anything

[Watcher]

Stoped working. And I didn't do anything
Perhaps that is the result of the "front door/back door" way that MMS can be either activated or subsequently blocked that someone else mentioned earlier on this forum. :frown:

[TAEWING59]

Well all the carriers really need to get in shape and get mms activated. I guess when the system did the sweep it cought that I was using an iPhone. Cause I I'd send an mms from another phone before. And now I can't using the same phone as before

[BlindSpoTT]

Mine works!!!! I had tried the cracked carrier update on beta 1 and got nothing. When I updated to beta 2 I assume the cracked carrier update was removed (since I updated as a new phone). I then went to my friend at an AT&T dealer at the local mall. He took my "iPhone Messaging Plan" off and put it on a standerd messaging plan. Bada bing bada boom, I can now send and recieve MMS!!!

Again I don't know if I still have the patched carrier update or not, does anybody know how to tell? Someone I think said something about the carrier being AT&T 3.5 or AT&T 5.something... Mine say AT&T 3.5 and mine works.

Good luck all. If any of you are in the York, PA area lmk I can tell you who to see to fix yours.

[TAEWING59]

Idt you do 3.5 is the original I think. But i had it and AT&T took it away :(

[TAEWING59]

Okay so I poped in my dads sim card and sent a mms and it works so it has to be on AT&T end

[BlindSpoTT]

WTF. Mine stopped working now... I tried reboot, airplain mode. Anyothet ideas?

[TAEWING59]

WTF. Mine stopped working now... I tried reboot, airplain mode. Anyothet ideas?

prolly cause AT&T's system does a "sweep" every few days.

[BlindSpoTT]

prolly cause AT&T's system does a "sweep" every few days.
i called them and its still on a standard plan... those &*^#&^$(#^$%#

[Hondamaker]

prolly cause AT&T's system does a "sweep" every few days.
Prolly cause we're not supposed to have it till June. It's a fluke if anyone has it now. Duh!

[cdelauz]

"Knock on wood" Mines is still working.

[TAEWING59]

okay so i got it working, all i did was put it in a MMS phone, it didnt work, make a call, still nothing, went to my https://mymedianet.wireless.att.com and did that, then IT WORKED! put it back in my iPhone and bam! woohoo!

[kevlar08]

Is anybody else worried that all this changing of plans to non iPhone plans might ruin requirements to upgrade to a new iPhone if they are released?

[shutter13]

Is anybody else worried that all this changing of plans to non iPhone plans might ruin requirements to upgrade to a new iPhone if they are released?

No because your upgrade eligibility has nothing to do with the periphery plans you have. It will be based on the date of activation.

[koolhand79]

No because your upgrade eligibility has nothing to do with the periphery plans you have. It will be based on the date of activation.

But last time didnt they give a slight pardon to those who had purchased the previous iphone???? I dont think changing your messaging plan would constitute u not being eligible for an upgrade when iphone 3.0 comes out. i think mot of us(i know i did) still kept the iphone data plan. it actually didnt even offer me the option to change my data plan even tho the OLAM showed i was using a Tilt. But yea popping your sim out and going to medianet on a capable phone seems to do the trick everytime if u had mms working before. it mut trick the system again until they do their sweep

[shutter13]

That was my point, if they allow you to upgrade early for the new iPhone...the requirements will be you would have to have had an iPhone 3G activated on the network by a certain date, most likely a a fair bit before the new iPhone was announced/released.

[TAEWING59]

One thing is that (quote from an AT&T Retail Rep) "iPhone 3G users who have bought the iPhone 3G at the subsidized price, will NOT be able to upgrade earlier than the 2 year contract date (or 21 months)" he also said that, "dont bank on there being a new iPhone because we knew 4-6 months ahead of time about the iPhone 3G, and weve heard nothing about a new iPhone"

[Hondamaker]

One thing is that (quote from an AT&T Retail Rep) "iPhone 3G users who have bought the iPhone 3G at the subsidized price, will NOT be able to upgrade earlier than the 2 year contract date (or 21 months)" he also said that, "dont bank on there being a new iPhone because we knew 4-6 months ahead of time about the iPhone 3G, and weve heard nothing about a new iPhone"He's full of poop on both counts.

[TAEWING59]

with all do respect, how would you know?

[shutter13]

2 reasons why I do not think they will allow the same type of early upgrade there was from the original iPhone.


The original iPhone was not subsidized, the 3g was. There is no reason for AT&T to allow you a second subsidized phone prior to your upgrade time.
The rumored "trade in" program AT&T might be launching in June. Basically they will give you 50-200 bucks ffor your current iPhone 3g towards the unsubsidized price of the new iPhone.

However, I do think they will do the exception upgrade like they do with the 3G, basically add 200 bucks to the subsidized price. Of course there will be restrictions their too; Account in good standing, can't have had an upgrade in the previous 6 months, probably others.

[koolhand79]

That would really suck if they didnt offer current iphone users a chance to get it at the subsidized price. it wouldnt surprise me but it certainly would suck.

[kevlar08]

2 reasons why I do not think they will allow the same type of early upgrade there was from the original iPhone.


The original iPhone was not subsidized, the 3g was. There is no reason for AT&T to allow you a second subsidized phone prior to your upgrade time.
The rumored "trade in" program AT&T might be launching in June. Basically they will give you 50-200 bucks ffor your current iPhone 3g towards the unsubsidized price of the new iPhone.

However, I do think they will do the exception upgrade like they do with the 3G, basically add 200 bucks to the subsidized price. Of course there will be restrictions their too; Account in good standing, can't have had an upgrade in the previous 6 months, probably others.

your first reason doesn't make sense to me. I had bought a subsidized blackjack a month before i bought my unsubsidized iphone V1, so i was in a 2 year commitment, then the iphone 3G came out 6 months later, i was able to upgrade to the 3G for the subsidized 199 price. So i bout two subsidized phones in 7 months. AT&T's reasons for allowing iphone users to upgrade early can't be only based on the V1 being unsubsidized

[koolhand79]

boy has this thread taken an unexpected twist!!!!! lol. Well back on topic i lost my MMS for a hot second. then i did the airplane mode trick and that got me going again. Its almost comical how many different things u have to do to keep it going. When att doesnt want u to have something they really dont want u to have it. Geeezzz

[TAEWING59]

As i've said before that's just the way the system is set up. They have to change it. They ate getting all the iPhone provision and tech tools set up first. But if you have it working dint screw with anything cause its very sensitive lol

[Hondamaker]

with all do respect, how would you know?Well, it's almost been confirmed that there will be a new iPhone this summer, and ATT tells me that I'm eligible for an upgrade after 12 months. ATT reps/support never know anything till the last minute, that's been confirmed as well.

[iphun]

Well, it's almost been confirmed that there will be a new iPhone this summer, and ATT tells me that I'm eligible for an upgrade after 12 months. ATT reps/support never know anything till the last minute, that's been confirmed as well.

Sometimes they are never told anything, for example MMS, the only reason AT&T now knows about it was because of all the 3.0 users calling in to get it activated. I wonder if apple would have ever told them if it wasn't for us giving AT&T a heads up.

[TAEWING59]

Any update on AT&T activating MMS on iPhones?

[hotskate]

well my provisions are all set by att and i have tried the download and still nothing is working... now my youtube doesnt work!

[Hondamaker]

Any update on AT&T activating MMS on iPhones?For Christ's sake, give it up until the official release. It aint gonna happen for most of us till then, so have some patience for the love of God!

[Napoleon_PhoneApart]

But mine is working...:tounge:

[iphun]

Still working here too

[koolhand79]

For Christ's sake, give it up until the official release. It aint gonna happen for most of us till then, so have some patience for the love of God!

Thank You!!!!!! It isnt suppose to work for anyone yet. If it does its a fluke!!!! NOT THE NORM............ now with that said.... MINE WORKS LOL :tounge:

[2white2fight]

well mine works haha sorry mine works, its strange YouTube is still a no go.

you had to make i new phone to make youtube work ensted of uploading a backup witch wakes youtube not work

[jimsizzle]

Its working! I tried everything listed on these posts this weekend to no avail. Tried it Monday morning and bam works like a charm! So pumped

[TAEWING59]

What exactly did you do?

[jimsizzle]

I did it all called Att they had no idea what I was talking about. I did they carrier update and made sure user name and password were corect then switched sim cards with a known mms phone and signed up for the mymedianet thing and changed messaging plan to unlimited nothing worked. Then all of a sudden this mourning it work like a charm

[TAEWING59]

anyones start working with the 3.0beta3 update?

[bwise05]

i just did and lost my MMS which i just got working 2 days ago... anyone have an idea on how to fix this?

[up10ad]

Mine started with v3.0 b3 update. I am on unlimited Family text and on b2 I did install the updated carrier file. It did not work prior to b3. Can send and receive.

Just in case someone testing for MMS has overlooked it, there is a toggle to turn it on in Settings|Messages. It definitely won't work if it is turned off.

[chavezr6]

I just updated to Beta three last night and while it says I have it and will load a picture up to 95% then has a red "!".

Just tried to the switch off and on, now it's completely gone. WTF!

[Watcher]

Yesterday I was lucky enough to get an unsuspecting AT&T rep to provision MMS for me and they wanted to send me to the Technical Support dept after her test photo message didn't work to which I replied, "That's okay, I'll call them later". My thoughts were they would know better and possibly reverse my MMS provisioning. I've restarted several times and I still get the "!" next to every message I try to send out. I even updated the AT&T carrier settings to 5.0 to no avail. :frown:

[iphun]

I just updated to Beta three last night and while it says I have it and will load a picture up to 95% then has a red "!".

Just tried to the switch off and on, now it's completely gone. WTF!

What is gone? You should try the airplane mode off and on to try to get it to work. Also get off any iphone messaging plans.

Yesterday I was lucky enough to get an unsuspecting AT&T rep to provision MMS for me and they wanted to send me to the Technical Support dept after her test photo message didn't work to which I replied, "That's okay, I'll call them later". My thoughts were they would know better and possibly reverse my MMS provisioning. I've restarted several times and I still get the "!" next to every message I try to send out. I even updated the AT&T carrier settings to 5.0 to no avail. :frown:
Same as above airplane mode got me working, I think it re registers to the mms provisioned network. And after airplane mode don't try to resend with the "!" just send a new one. Oh and reset network settings can always help.

[chavezr6]

iphun,

Tried turning the airport mode off and on to no avail. Still nothing. If I restore through iTunes do I need internet access? I'm at work and using my phone to tether, which I could only get to work once I updated the Carrier file to 5.0.

[rpeterslll]

Has anyone noticed on iPhone 3.0 Beta when sending a text to multiple recipients that the texts get sent out as MMS messages? People that cant receive MMS messages wont receive the text. People that do receive MMS messages on other phones receive the message as MMS.

[th3godf4th3r]

i have beta 3 now, carrier settings 5.0, and have unlimited messaging for non iphone. the only thing i havent done, and cant do is get another phone to register with medianet

still no mms

i tried the airplane mode, no worky

[chavezr6]

I'm in the same boat. Just got off the phone with AT&T and verified I have the non Iphone messaging too. Weird.

[iphun]

iphun,

Tried turning the airport mode off and on to no avail. Still nothing. If I restore through iTunes do I need internet access? I'm at work and using my phone to tether, which I could only get to work once I updated the Carrier file to 5.0.

As long as you have the ipsw on the computer already I don't think you need to have internet, but if I'm wrong the only thing that would happen is that it might not get activated(even though this was supposed to be a temporary fix for people who didn't register through a developer).

Make sure you try a network settings restore, while on the phone with at&t they reset on their end then had me reset network settings on my phone under settings> general> reset> reset network settings. You could at least try the one on your end. It will restart the phone so don't worry when that happens.

[kevlar08]

Has anyone noticed on iPhone 3.0 Beta when sending a text to multiple recipients that the texts get sent out as MMS messages? People that cant receive MMS messages wont receive the text. People that do receive MMS messages on other phones receive the message as MMS.

this was fixed for most people after updating to newer beta's

[rpeterslll]

Is this supposed to be fixed with Beta 3? I tried it just yesterday and my SMS went out to Multiple recipients still.

[rpeterslll]

this was fixed for most people after updating to newer beta's

Was this supposed to be fixed with Beta 3? I tried it yesterday and my SMS still went out to multiple recipients as MMS.

[Watcher]

Sending MMS works! I have yet to see if I can receive MMS. Make sure you open a NEW contact to send an MMS. I noticed when I tried to send it on a preexisting SMS conversation, it wouldn't work. But when I sent it on a new one, the top read "New MMS" and it went through! I also reset my Network Settings as iphun suggested previously. :2cool:

[hotskate]

As long as you have the ipsw on the computer already I don't think you need to have internet, but if I'm wrong the only thing that would happen is that it might not get activated(even though this was supposed to be a temporary fix for people who didn't register through a developer).

Make sure you try a network settings restore, while on the phone with at&t they reset on their end then had me reset network settings on my phone under settings> general> reset> reset network settings. You could at least try the one on your end. It will restart the phone so don't worry when that happens.



Do I need to get the other update so i have the internet tathering option ... I think it is the carrier update? im on the beta 3 .3

[Hondamaker]

Watcher, my god your avatar is creepy.

[Watcher]

Watcher, my god your avatar is creepy.
You never heard of the Watcher in Marvel Comics?

"The Watchers are a fictional (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fictional) race of extraterrestrials (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extraterrestrials) that appear in comic books (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comic_books) published by Marvel Comics (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marvel_Comics). Created by Stan Lee (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stan_Lee) and Jack Kirby (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Kirby), the first Watcher - named Uatu (who is pictured on my avatar) - appears in Fantastic Four (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fantastic_Four) #13 (April 1963). The Watchers are one of the oldest species in the universe, and are committed to observing and compiling knowledge on all aspects of the universe. This policy of non-interference is due to a well-meaning attempt by the Watchers to bestow knowledge on another race which resulted in that race destroying itself. Despite this, the Watcher Uatu has revealed himself to the superhero (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superhero) team the Fantastic Four (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fantastic_Four), and aids them on several occasions against global threats such as the Molecule Man (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Molecule_Man), Galactus (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galactus) and the Overmind (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overmind_%28comics%29). After blatant interference with the mission of the Kree soldier Mar-vell (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mar-vell), Uatu is put on trial by his own race, but is released on the provision that he never directly interfere again." - taken from Wikipedia

[Hondamaker]

You never heard of the Watcher in Marvel Comics?

"The Watchers are a fictional (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fictional) race of extraterrestrials (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extraterrestrials) that appear in comic books (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comic_books) published by Marvel Comics (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marvel_Comics). Created by Stan Lee (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stan_Lee) and Jack Kirby (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Kirby), the first Watcher - named Uatu (who is pictured on my avatar) - appears in Fantastic Four (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fantastic_Four) #13 (April 1963). The Watchers are one of the oldest species in the universe, and are committed to observing and compiling knowledge on all aspects of the universe. This policy of non-interference is due to a well-meaning attempt by the Watchers to bestow knowledge on another race which resulted in that race destroying itself. Despite this, the Watcher Uatu has revealed himself to the superhero (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superhero) team the Fantastic Four (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fantastic_Four), and aids them on several occasions against global threats such as the Molecule Man (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Molecule_Man), Galactus (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galactus) and the Overmind (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overmind_%28comics%29). After blatant interference with the mission of the Kree soldier Mar-vell (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mar-vell), Uatu is put on trial by his own race, but is released on the provision that he never directly interfere again." - taken from WikipediaNo, but I hear about them on night time talk radio (coast to coast a.m. with George Nory)

[iphun]

Do I need to get the other update so i have the internet tathering option ... I think it is the carrier update? im on the beta 3 .3

To get the tethering option, if you don't have it in this beta, you need the carrier update. The file is usually called ATT_US.ipcc and there were many on the mms forums, but I don't think this mms thread.

[iPhoneMonster]

Is it possible for me to change my vote? Because I said that it doesn't work and im on AT&T but what I meant was it doesn't work and im not with AT&T - Optus Official Australia Carrier.

[Napoleon_PhoneApart]

No, but I hear about them on night time talk radio (coast to coast a.m. with George Nory)


You must mean UFO Phil...:laugh2:

[Watcher]

Okay, this is weird... MMS worked for like 10 minutes. I was able to send for that time but I didn't seem to be able to receive. When I tried to email a photo to my phone number with the AT&T suffix, it said:

"Remote host said: 550 <phonenumber@mms.att.net> has restricted MMS email.

[iphun]

Okay, this is weird... MMS worked for like 10 minutes. I was able to send for that time but I didn't seem to be able to receive. When I tried to email a photo to my phone number with the AT&T suffix, it said:

"Remote host said: 550 <phonenumber@mms.att.net> has restricted MMS email.

Toggle airplane mode once then try to send a new mms. I could never get those emails to go through to my number but I haven't tried with the new ability to receive them.

[Watcher]

Toggle airplane mode once then try to send a new mms. I could never get those emails to go through to my number but I haven't tried with the new ability to receive them.
Nope. No dice...

[jmiphone33]

wow!! my MMS all of a sudden started working!! lleetttss goooo!! maybe apple is slowly switching on the MMS switch???!!!!???

[hotskate]

wow!! my MMS all of a sudden started working!! lleetttss goooo!! maybe apple is slowly switching on the MMS switch???!!!!???

do you have the network settings ipc downloaded on your phone?

[jmiphone33]

do you have the network settings ipc downloaded on your phone?

Yes, I have the 5.0 ipcc on my phone...i got it from a website a while ago but that file didn't allow MMS to work on my phone and then one of my friends sent me his 5.0 ipcc file because he said it is different and made his MMS work and i tried it and it didn't work at first and now it does...:2cool:

[hotskate]

can you send me the file? did you put in the username and password?

[jmiphone33]

can you send me the file? did you put in the username and password?

no actually there's nothing in them at all...there's nowhere to put a username or password when i click on celluar data network..i dont know why..but it works haha:laugh2:

[hotskate]

you send and receive? can u email me the file?

[jmiphone33]

Yes both sending and receiving...its amazing..what's your email?

[bluedrib]

bluedrib@yahoo.com, thanks! hope it works for me 2

[hotskate]

ssayet@mac.com

[jmiphone33]

Emails sent..hope they work for you guys..happy iphoning...:2cool:

[LDrifter83]

Could someone send the file to me as well?

ls.drifter@gmail.com

[the_monitor]

Yes may I please get in on this guys? I have tried just about anything and everything to no avail.

xounkownxo@gmail.com

[the_monitor]

Also, did any of the guys who received the new IPCC get it to work?

[hotskate]

nope not working

[mitchellm4]

not working for me either. im on beta 4 with the 5.0 ipcc

[MrEous]

The IPCC file is in this Software forum...

[AGQ03]

it worked for me on beta v3 for about a day and then it stoped. Got it working again on v4. Lets see how long it last this time.

[jdawgydawg12]

i'm using beta 4 with an ipcc file that says AT&T 5.0, in Cellular Data Network, I get three APN Settings; APN One, APN Two, APN three. Can someone post what their settings are for these? or if not, can someone send me the right ipcc file?! I've exhausted my options. justineldredge@gmail.com thanks for the help!

[Hondamaker]

You guys have a little over a month now till 3.0 is an official release and MMS starts working for everyone. For Christ's sake, give it up! You're beating the hell out of a dead horse.

[iphun]

You guys have a little over a month now till 3.0 is an official release and MMS starts working for everyone. For Christ's sake, give it up! You're beating the hell out of a dead horse.

Yeah if you don't have it working by now then give it up, it's not that much longer until you have mms working officially. And I downgraded back to 3.5 ipcc and mine still works so it has NOTHING to do with the ipcc.

[Napoleon_PhoneApart]

Hahahaha!

I think I'll go send an MMS right now...:laugh2::laugh2::laugh2:

[iphun]

Hahahaha!

I think I'll go send an MMS right now...:laugh2::laugh2::laugh2:

I just sent one right before you said that... :laugh2::laugh2:

[jmiphone33]

I just sent one right before you said that... :laugh2::laugh2:

Well I sent one right before you did, so i beat both of you guys! hahahahahah:laugh2::2cool::laugh2:

[Watcher]

My MMS is working now - sending and receiving - and I'll tell you what I did in the exact order I did it.

First of all, I did NOT use the AT&T updated IPCC file! You don't need it! My carrier settings are still on 3.5 and MMS works, sending and receiving.

1. Get your account provisioned for MMS by an AT&T rep by dialing 611 from your iPhone. I merely stated that I am a beta tester under a developer for the iPhone 3.0 beta, but they didn't seem to care. They were more than happy to assist me with this and the next step.

2. Also get the AT&T rep on the phone to change your iPhone text messaging unlimited plan to a regular unlimited messaging plan.

3. Put your iPhone SIM card into an MMS capable phone like a Blackjack (preferably that was used or is used on AT&T), which is what I used, and make a few calls and "attempt" to send a few MMS pictures. I say "attempt" only because I tried several times to send MMS while it was in the Blackjack but they failed every time.

4. Put the SIM card back into your iPhone, do a hard reboot by holding the power and home buttons until you see the Apple logo and wait about 24 hours. MMS on my iPhone did not work right away as it was failing left and right. Just this morning I tried and it worked like a charm!

What I did NOT have to do was register with MediaNet, change my online account to some other phone besides the iPhone, nor did I have to use the IPCC file. I believe to get MMS working, you need only do what is listed here. The last obstacle is to get that SIM card to believe it's not in an iPhone anymore to remove the MMS block on it.

[Hondamaker]

Well I sent one right before you did, so i beat both of you guys! hahahahahah:laugh2::2cool::laugh2:I sent one to my wife at 3:30, so I beat all of ya!

[jagghy12]

It's working fine! Just sent one

[iphun]

I've been sending since a few days after beta 1 came out, so I beat everyone!!:laugh2::2cool::tounge:

[BrownGem]

The "it's working!" are gaining ground lol. All of us "it's not working" have hope. I don't have the beta sw. All I know is it had better work with the official release. Someone needs to get this dead horse outta here :tounge:

[shutter13]

I've been sending since a few days after beta 1 came out, so I beat everyone!!:laugh2::2cool::tounge:

Just to set the record straight...I was sending mms on 2.2.1 so...neener neener neener! :tounge:

[iphun]

Just to set the record straight...I was sending mms on 2.2.1 so...neener neener neener! :tounge:

I knew this was coming!! :laugh2: Well we have been sending through 3.0 without jailbreaking Tounge Smile

[the_monitor]

Still nothing here. Doesn't seem to matter what I do

[iphun]

Still nothing here. Doesn't seem to matter what I do

Like I mentioned before I can say for sure my mms works on both 3.5 and 5.0 so 5.0 isn't needed at all. It all depends on what at&t combination of settings you have and if they were done correct through at&t. I wonder if the day it comes out if the mms will even work and will everyone crash or make their servers slow to a crawl by bombarding the network with mms messages.

Did you have at&t before your iphone? If you did was your previous at&t phone capable of mms?

[Hondamaker]

I wonder if the day it comes out if the mms will even work and will everyone crash or make their servers slow to a crawl by bombarding the network with mms messages.

I doubt that since all the other phones on AT&T and the other networks use MMS sans problems.

[the_monitor]

Nope I switched to AT&T from verizon for this phone ;)

[Watcher]

Still nothing here. Doesn't seem to matter what I do
I bet it would work if you do what I suggested on page 14. I was skeptical also until I did all of it.

[iphun]

Nope I switched to AT&T from verizon for this phone ;)

Now you are only one person, but I wonder if people with new accounts and their first phone was an iphone, their account cannot be tricked into letting mms work. But the people who had an at&t phone before the iphone have a history of other capable phones so it's easier to trick their "door" system. Just a thought, but I would need more people to prove this.

Anyone with or without mms working, did you have an at&t phone/account before the iphone?

[Watcher]

Now you are only one person, but I wonder if people with new accounts and their first phone was an iphone, their account cannot be tricked into letting mms work. But the people who had an at&t phone before the iphone have a history of other capable phones so it's easier to trick their "door" system. Just a thought, but I would need more people to prove this.

Anyone with or without mms working, did you have an at&t phone/account before the iphone?
I had Verizon before the iPhone and my MMS is working.

[iphun]

I had Verizon before the iPhone and my MMS is working.

Ok then it disproves it, but worth a try. Didn't you use another at&t phone to put your sim into? How did you have an at&t phone?

[Watcher]

Ok then it disproves it, but worth a try. Didn't you use another at&t phone to put your sim into? How did you have an at&t phone?
My buddy who owns an iPhone 3G also has a Blackjack that he once used on AT&T. I didn't even have to change my online account that says I own an iPhone 3G to get it to work.

[iphun]

My buddy who owns an iPhone 3G also has a Blackjack without a SIM card he used on AT&T. I didn't even have to change my online account that says I own an iPhone 3G to get it to work.

I figured a friend probably loaned it to you. I guess it will always be a mystery why some can get it to work and some can't. I didn't have to change my online account either, nothing is different on my account other than my messaging plan being for families(non iphone). Maybe they are letting some of us through to test it.

[Watcher]

Well, yeah... I changed my messaging plan to non-iPhone but I meant that on the first page of your account how it shows you own the iPhone. I didn't change that like some people suggest to get it to work.

[iphun]

Well, yeah... I changed my messaging plan to non-iPhone but I meant that on the first page of your account how it shows you own the iPhone. I didn't change that like some people suggest to get it to work.

Yeah I know what you mean about where it shows the phone you are using :laugh2:. I was just saying all I changed was the messaging plan. They will probably end up removing the iphone messaging plans cause they were only needed to differentiate us from phones that could send mms unless they need them for v1 phones.

[Hondamaker]

You guys need to go to the EIC chat room on IRC to have a conversation.

[Watcher]

A word of caution to those who are able to get MMS working without changing your iPhone unlimited text messaging plan to a non-iPhone unlimited messaging plan on AT&T: YOU WILL BE CHARGED $0.30 to send each picture!

I just reviewed my bill prior to changing my account to a non-iPhone unlimited messaging plan and the time I was able to get MMS working for a short period, I was charged for sending them. Luckily it was only 2 but I felt that I should warn everyone and urge them to get on the regular non-Phone unlimited messaging plan if they don't want to be charged for each MMS message!

[Hondamaker]

A word of caution to those who are able to get MMS working without changing your iPhone unlimited text messaging plan to a non-iPhone unlimited messaging plan on AT&T: YOU WILL BE CHARGED $0.30 to send each picture!

I just reviewed my bill prior to changing my account to a non-iPhone unlimited messaging plan and the time I was able to get MMS working for a short period, I was charged for sending them. Luckily it was only 2 but I felt that I should warn everyone and urge them to get on the regular non-Phone unlimited messaging plan if they don't want to be charged for each MMS message!
Watcher is right. I just checked m account and I've been charged .30 cents per MMS. Flipping AT&T.:angry:

[iphun]

Watcher is right. I just checked m account and I've been charged .30 cents per MMS. Flipping AT&T.:angry:

What's the damage to your bill? I know this can make you mad but they aren't doing anything wrong, we are, and the iphone plans don't allow for mms.:frown: They probably have no way of blocking it now cause I bet some of their "doors" system is being shut down and figured they would make some extra money on people using it too early. They can't do this to you if you have the regular messages plan or family plan(what I have always used) because they include mms, so if they charged you for it you could fight back or even sue them. Since I have the unlimited family messages plan I am ready for them to charge me so I can flip out on them.

[Watcher]

iphun,

I don't think you understand what I was getting at. This caution is only for those who aren't on the non-iPhone messaging plan.

(And whoever said my avatar was creepy needs to look at Hondamakers! :gasp: Wait a second... is that Wolverine?)

[Hondamaker]

iphun,

I don't think you understand what I was getting at. This caution is only for those who aren't on the non-iPhone messaging plan.

(And whoever said my avatar was creepy needs to look at Hondamakers! :gasp: Wait a second... is that Wolverine?)
But I am on the iPhone messaging plan!

[iphun]

iphun,

I don't think you understand what I was getting at. This caution is only for those who aren't on the non-iPhone messaging plan.

(And whoever said my avatar was creepy needs to look at Hondamakers! :gasp: Wait a second... is that Wolverine?)


I do understand what you were getting at, I was just asking Hondamaker how much he was getting charged and added some of my 2 cents.
But I do agree we need to warn everybody using mms about this to avoid massive charges on bills. If I didn't have a plan with mms I would have had a $27 charge on my last bill.

[Watcher]

But I am on the iPhone messaging plan!
I know. That's what I was saying - to make sure you're on the non-iPhone messaging plan. Get it changed pronto! I'd explain it to AT&T and they'll probably grandfather it into the plan... if they're nice.

[AGQ03]

I did what you are saying about changing the sim card to an old phone and it worked for about a day and then it stops working on both phones. So at this point I am just going to wait till the official release.

[iphun]

I did what you are saying about changing the sim card to an old phone and it worked for about a day and then it stops working on both phones. So at this point I am just going to wait till the official release.

Just flip the airplane mode switch on then off and then try to send one.

[frizz]

spoke with an AT&t and Apple rep not 1 minute ago and was told, and I quote" at this time apple does not support mms function on the iphone, until the release of firmware 3.0 in the summer, only a third party app will. The 3.0 firmware will include the mms support".

[Hondamaker]

Either he's mistaken, lying, or there's a big blunder going on at AT&T, cause there's a multitude of us who have real MMS.

[shutter13]

I don't think he's lying or mistaken. There is no official support for mms at this time. Some of us have just been lucky enough to find the combination of circumstances that it works for us. But if it were to stop we are on our own to get it working again.

[Hondamaker]

I don't think he's lying or mistaken. There is no official support for mms at this time. Some of us have just been lucky enough to find the combination of circumstances that it works for us. But if it were to stop we are on our own to get it working again.
Then all that's left is 'big blunder'. And we benefit from it! :2cool:

[Napoleon_PhoneApart]

Heheh.....

[cpmaster]

I just try this today I call AT&T and told them i have the 3.0 BETA and they hook me up with mms no hack nothing wack its all works good now the costumer service guy told me that apple never told AT&T about the BETA supporting mms so after so many calls from BETA testers asking to add mms they finely did it like i say this might been out for a while now but i just found this out my self today

NOTE: After he turn on mms on the AT&T side i had to Reset All Settings before i could get it to work im using 3.0 BETA 4

[frizz]

I take offense to being called a liar, when the reason for these forums is to help people with their iphones. Both reps told me that there were third party apps that offer mms services, but at this time neither Apple or At&t did. I was also unaware of the 3.0 beta being used by others.

[shutter13]

I take offense to being called a liar, when the reason for these forums is to help people with their iphones. Both reps told me that there were third party apps that offer mms services, but at this time neither Apple or At&t did. I was also unaware of the 3.0 beta being used by others.

No one called you a liar, Hondamaker was referring to the AT&T rep you spoke to, that person was lying, mistaken or AT&T as a group was blundering the issue. There are no 3rd party apps that offer true mms functionality save swirlyMMS and that is only for jailbroken phones.

[the_monitor]

Anyone get it working via cpmasters method?

[cpmaster]

I take offense to being called a liar, when the reason for these forums is to help people with their iphones. Both reps told me that there were third party apps that offer mms services, but at this time neither Apple or At&t did. I was also unaware of the 3.0 beta being used by others.


you may have to talk to technical support first when i called i ask for technical support as soon as the rep got on the phone but he shored me that he could help me so i went on with it he kept asking me if i was sure that it was the 3.0 beta because if its not mms (javascript:void(0);) will not work i replayed yes its 3.0 BETA 4 to be exact so we went on with testing it after he turned it on at first it was not working so i went on to tell him that i installed a custom file a ippc (javascript:void(0);) file he ask me what was that i told him i was trying to mod my iPhone to see if i could get mms (javascript:void(0);) working so then he had me reset all settings to delete that file i installed so i did that and after about 10 min it started working i can now send pics ,contact info, Audio files via memo app (javascript:void(0);) and share Location using MMS (javascript:void(0);) Works like a charm now it finally feels like a reale update it no longer feels like a BETA anymore i am so happy now you might have to get the right rep on the phone because the rep i was talking to seem to know all about 3.0 BETA and knew just how to get MMS (javascript:void(0);) working im (javascript:void(0);) going to call AT&T (javascript:void(0);) tomorrow and ask if they have a record of the session the rep and i had on getting mms (javascript:void(0);) on and ask the the record number is if they have it and ask if i can get it if i do i will share it on here with you guys so you can get this working good luck guys!!! lET ME KNOW IF ANY OF YOU GUYS GET IT WORKING........

[Hondamaker]

Doesn't anyone use proper punctuation anymore? I'm outta breath from reading that huge, long sentence! And it's assured, not shored. LMAO :tounge:

Glad you got it working, though.

[mdmac]

you may have to talk to technical support first when i called i ask for technical support as soon as the rep got on the phone but he shored me that he could help me so i went on with it he kept asking me if i was sure that it was the 3.0 beta because if its not mms (javascript:void(0);) will not work i replayed yes its 3.0 BETA 4 to be exact so we went on with testing it after he turned it on at first it was not working so i went on to tell him that i installed a custom file a ippc (javascript:void(0);) file he ask me what was that i told him i was trying to mod my iPhone to see if i could get mms (javascript:void(0);) working so then he had me reset all settings to delete that file i installed so i did that and after about 10 min it started working i can now send pics ,contact info, Audio files via memo app (javascript:void(0);) and share Location using MMS (javascript:void(0);) Works like a charm now it finally feels like a reale update it no longer feels like a BETA anymore i am so happy now you might have to get the right rep on the phone because the rep i was talking to seem to know all about 3.0 BETA and knew just how to get MMS (javascript:void(0);) working im (javascript:void(0);) going to call AT&T (javascript:void(0);) tomorrow and ask if they have a record of the session the rep and i had on getting mms (javascript:void(0);) on and ask the the record number is if they have it and ask if i can get it if i do i will share it on here with you guys so you can get this working good luck guys!!! lET ME KNOW IF ANY OF YOU GUYS GET IT WORKING........

If you remove the updated carrier file and replace it with the original, won't the MMS option get removed? (assuming you are using beta 5)

[iphun]

If you remove the updated carrier file and replace it with the original, won't the MMS option get removed? (assuming you are using beta 5)

With beta 5 yes you need the have the 5.0 ipcc before you update itunes and update to beta 5. In beta 5 using the newest itunes the original ipcc will have the Cellular data network options added by apple but for now they hide the camera icon in messages and the option under settings for mms.

[Watcher]

I can't wait until someone hacks into those options and opens them up again.

Computer Hackers UNITE!!! :laugh2:

[iphun]

I can't wait until someone hacks into those options and opens them up again.

Computer Hackers UNITE!!! :laugh2:

I have a feeling we are going to see the final release during or shortly after WWDC, so we don't have much more time to wait until it is official and we can use mms with no hacks.

[mdmac]

So from what I understand... the current modified 5.0 IPCC might be holding some back from getting working MMS? My account has been provisioned for a while now and I've had no luck at all. If apple adds settings to the original IPCC when using the new itunes, (while hiding the mms options) can't we just:

SSH into the phone and grab the IPCC file
Edit it so as to enable the mms switch under message settings
downgrade itunes
option+click install the modified IPCC

What's also kinda weird is that whenever I leave the MMSC/PROXY settings blank... all signs of mms vanish. Aren't the MMS settings there in the original 3.5 file which doesn't have any MMSC/PROXY entries present in the IPCC?

Any thoughts?

[iphun]

So from what I understand... the current modified 5.0 IPCC might be holding some back from getting working MMS? My account has been provisioned for a while now and I've had no luck at all. If apple adds settings to the original IPCC when using the new itunes, (while hiding the mms options) can't we just:

SSH into the phone and grab the IPCC file
Edit it so as to enable the mms switch under message settings
downgrade itunes
option+click install the modified IPCC

What's also kinda weird is that whenever I leave the MMSC/PROXY settings blank... all signs of mms vanish. Aren't the MMS settings there in the original 3.5 file which doesn't have any MMSC/PROXY entries present in the IPCC?

Any thoughts?

You could try that but I really don't think it will work. They have been using 3.5 ipcc file for all beta releases, just like tethering the option was just hidden. 3.5 includes everything they just keep it hidden just as they are hiding all the mms options for now. Our 5.0 ipcc files included our own settings under CDN settings.

Yeah the mms settings have always been there, I have it working and all the fields(MMSC/PROXY) are blank and it works.

[mdmac]

I found something kinda interesting. I installed the 3.5 IPCC file and for some reason cellular data network was still able to be accessed. Well what I saw in there was that the APN for Cellular Data was just "phone" with no username or pass. The visual voicemail APN was acds.voicemail and the MMS settings were blank.

I rebooted and of course the cellular data network panel was gone.

[iphun]

I found something kinda interesting. I installed the 3.5 IPCC file and for some reason cellular data network was still able to be accessed. Well what I saw in there was that the APN for Cellular Data was just "phone" with no username or pass. The visual voicemail APN was acds.voicemail and the MMS settings were blank.

I rebooted and of course the cellular data network panel was gone.

Yeah we kinda knew this cause if you have the 5.0 ipcc file installed you get a different CDN screen than what came with that ipcc and looks like it could be what apple actually put there. I have 5.0 and I can still see the screen and it is different than the one that was seen on previous betas with this ipcc.

[up10ad]

I posted this in the ipcc problems thread, but it may be more relevant here.

I am on the Family Unlimited text plan
Updated beta 5 and iTunes from the b5 release bundle
MMS icons went away (expected)
Added the .ipcc file using my wife's MBA with the first iTunes 8.2 from beta 4
Got the MMS icons back

Still can't send MMS. I was able to do so for a day or so right after the b3 release but never reliably. I will try adding the name and password to the MMS settings, but I don't expect it to change anything.

[edit - UPDATE]

I tried turning Airplane mode on and off and when I tried to test it I found the MMS icons were all gone! I checked my settings I found that the Network|Cell Data settings still had MMS related settings but the Messages setting MMS options had disappeared! So had all the icons for MMS in the apps! Looks like they are really taking steps to keep us out of MMS.

[iphun]

posted this in the ipcc problems thread, but it may be more relevant here.

I am on the Family Unlimited text plan
Updated beta 5 and iTunes from the b5 release bundle
MMS icons went away (expected)
Added the .ipcc file using my wife's MBA with the first iTunes 8.2 from beta 4
Got the MMS icons back

Still can't send MMS. I was able to do so for a day or so right after the b3 release but never reliably. I will try adding the name and password to the MMS settings, but I don't expect it to change anything.

One thing in addition to adding the user and pass(I don't use them and mine works, always has), but you could reset your network settings. This seems to work, most of the time.

Update- From what up10ad says ^^ DO NOT USE AIR PLANE MODE

[up10ad]

iphun, I edited my message above while you were posting. As you can see, Airplane didn't work. I had already tried resetting the network settings to no avail. Hmmmmm

[iphun]

iphun, I edited my message above while you were posting. As you can see, Airplane didn't work. I had already tried resetting the network settings to no avail. Hmmmmm

Yeah I saw then edited mine to go along with your edit haha:laugh2:

Ok this is wierd!! Do you do still have 5.0 carrier under about? I haven't experienced this but I guess you could reapply the 5.0 ipcc using your wife's MBA.
Personally I don't see the problem with us using mms, tethering I could see at&t having a fit about but mms is either included in out sms plan or the people who kept their iphone sms plans are paying $.30 an mms.

[up10ad]

Yep, still says 5.0 carrier. I reinstalled the ipcc file with the MBA and restarted the iPhone. It still has no MMS icons or settings for MMS under Messages. So strange.

[iphun]

Yep, still says 5.0 carrier. I reinstalled the ipcc file with the MBA and restarted the iPhone. It still has no MMS icons or settings for MMS under Messages. So strange.

Wow, maybe once it is gone then it is permanent until they give it the go ahead. On the NextGeniPhone thread there was a rumor Indy posted which said that 3.0 may be coming out earlier than the new phone in july, so maybe June 8th(WWDC) or not long after we will see it with full mms support. And with this odd update timing makes it look like they are working the kinks out for a release soon. Plus they just announced that all submitted apps have to be able to work on 3.0 or they will probably be rejected. A lot of rambling on, but just saying it looks like we may see a final release soon.

[Watcher]

Good, I hope it's released in June. Meanwhile, I'm going to stick with the MMS working on beta 4 until they force me to update which might be within the next week.

[Hondamaker]

Rick, I added the latest ipcc file before updating to the latest itunes. Then I installed beta 5.

[BlindSpoTT]

ok my last hope to get mms working AGAIN.... what is the username and password in the 5.0 ipcc files? thanks.

piss me off. i had this working in beta 1 for about a day, then it just stopped, i didnt even need the ipcc update. just change my plan to a standard, non i-phone, plan... if this doesnt work, anyother suggestions? my plan doesnt have to be unlimited does it? i only have 1500.

[Napoleon_PhoneApart]

Are you on an iPhone or non-iPhone plan?

I'm on a non-iPhone plan (200) and have had MMS the whole time.

[BlindSpoTT]

non-iphone 1500 plan. i had it for a day when i had the guy put that on.

[lowram00]

can someone post screen shots how there mms setting look like because i still cant get mine to work and i try everything and im on a family text and picture plan and my carrier is 5.0

[Youngbinks]

Well I'm on beta 5 but as of yet can't get MMS working.

[iphun]

can someone post screen shots how there mms setting look like because i still cant get mine to work and i try everything and im on a family text and picture plan and my carrier is 5.0

Everything sounds good for it to work, the only thing you may need is for at&t to provision you. I left all my settings "as is" and it has always worked. If you can get your hands on a mms capable phone, put your sim in there and see if it works. Also you could reset network settings and see if that helps.

[JustinCarpenter]

I got MMS working today for the first time. First attempt today. I am on 3.0 beta 5 with an IPCC from earlier that allows MMS settings.

1. Switched SIM into Samsung Blackjack 2.
2. Called AT&T and had them change me to an Unlimited Messaging Plan.
3. Restarted Blackjack 2. Text messages were sending and receiving fine, but not pictures.
4. Called AT&T back. They had me try the internet and that wasn't working either. They transfered me to tech support and he did something that made the internet work.
5. Picture messaging was now working on the Blackjack 2.
6. I switched the SIM back into my iPhone.
7. Turned the phone off (Power Off) and back on 3 times right in a row.
8. Picture messaging was not working on the iPhone.
9. Airplane mode toggled on and off multiple times.
10. Picture messaging now working on the iPhone.

All of this was done tonight because I decided I wanted it, so it can still be done.

Let me know if you have any questions about my process.

[jmiphone33]

I got MMS working today for the first time. First attempt today. I am on 3.0 beta 5 with an IPCC from earlier that allows MMS settings.

1. Switched SIM into Samsung Blackjack 2.
2. Called AT&T and had them change me to an Unlimited Messaging Plan.
3. Restarted Blackjack 2. Text messages were sending and receiving fine, but not pictures.
4. Called AT&T back. They had me try the internet and that wasn't working either. They transfered me to tech support and he did something that made the internet work.
5. Picture messaging was now working on the Blackjack 2.
6. I switched the SIM back into my iPhone.
7. Turned the phone off (Power Off) and back on 3 times right in a row.
8. Picture messaging was not working on the iPhone.
9. Airplane mode toggled on and off multiple times.
10. Picture messaging now working on the iPhone.

All of this was done tonight because I decided I wanted it, so it can still be done.

Let me know if you have any questions about my process.

What did you tell them to get the internet working on the blackjack?

[Watcher]

If you look back at the steps at how I got mine working, when I put my SIM in a BlackJack phone, the picture messaging and internet never worked in it, but at least 24 hours after I put it back in my iPhone, MMS was working. This leads me to believe that as along as you attempt to send them as well as make a few phone calls, there is obviously something this process does to overwrite part of the SIM card itself to unlock MMS when it's in the iPhone.

[JustinCarpenter]

I forgot to add this in, but they actually changed the IMEI on my account to the Blackjack. The Internet or picture messaging wasn't working so I called back and told them I wanted it working. They fixed it after about 20 minutes.

[jmiphone33]

I tried your technique and the lady said that she would have to change my whole plan around and delete my iphone data plan and replace it with a regular media net plan...so i didn't work...

[Watcher]

I tried your technique and the lady said that she would have to change my whole plan around and delete my iphone data plan and replace it with a regular media net plan...so i didn't work...
Yeah, the rep you got didn't know what she was talking about. The iPhone Data Plan is completely separate from the iPhone Text Plan. All that has to be done is change the iPhone Text Plan to a Non-iPhone Messaging Plan, which is the same price if they're both unlimited. Either the lady was completely clueless or that is what AT&T reps have been told to deter MMS beta activation.

[JustinCarpenter]

Ok, so when changing the IMEI to another phone, it automatically gets rid of the iPhone data plan and adds pay per use Internet. I had $200 in Internet usage charges. So don't change the IMEI on your account. Just try and get the rep to add the unlimited plan.

[Watcher]

Okay, I just pulled up my plan on AT&T online. While what I mentioned was correct in that's what I told my rep to do, this is what is listed on my account right now under Voice & Data Usage under the Data tab:

Internet/MEdia Net
UNLIMITED
Used 80.47MB of Unlimited

Messaging
UNLIMITED
Used 522 of Unlimited

All I know is if you have the above unlimited plans, there is no way they can get away with charging you extra for MMS!!! They wouldn't even have a legal leg to stand on.