Clippy finally got it right

[wildonrio]

Have you seen the newest update? Wow. You hold anywhere in seemingly any app and a very nice-looking window pops up with the option to Cut, Copy, Paste, or see your Stack. It actually looks very iPhone native. I love it. It is now definitely better than hClipboard.

Now my only worry is that the author seems to COMPLETELY change the app with each update rather drastically. I really think he got it right this time and I really, really hope he sort of just leaves it how it is.

EDIT: Here are some screenshots!

1. Hold and wait for Clippy's pop-up window on any paragraph of text in virtually any app and choose Copy:

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2. Now find a place where you can type, like Notepad, Text, Email, etc., hold and wait in the typing area for the pop-up window again and choose Paste to paste you last copied/cut item. Alternatively, you can choose Stack and see a list of all your past copied items.

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3. Your text is pasted.

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4. If you want to copy just a certain portion of a paragraph, double tap and hold on the beginning of the text you want to copy and drag to the end of the section you want.

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5. Let go to see the pop-up window. Notice that since the text is editable, you now you have an option to Cut as well as Copy.

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And don't forget, choosing Stack will give you a list of everything you have copied in the past which you can paste again at any time. (I don't think I'm allowed more than 5 images per post or I would give you another screenshot :/)

[PepeRB29]

yah, i just updated as well, seems pretty flawless to me :)

[Rip]

Yep, just got that too.

Outstanding so far. Go get it.

So, if this makes it to the Cydia store, how much would you be prepared to pay for it?

I'd go $10.

[Ezekiel2517]

Yep, just got that too.

Outstanding so far. Go get it.

So, if this makes it to the Cydia store, how much would you be prepared to pay for it?

I'd go $10.

it better not go into the store until it at least gets everything right and you are able to copy/paste anything.

[wildonrio]

it better not go into the store until it at least gets everything right and you are able to copy/paste anything.
Picky picky! It can already do just about anything. What more are you looking for? I'd pay $10.

[acosmichippo]

well, i have it for free now, and that's fine by me.

[Rip]

I can't fault it yet.

I'm really surprised this thread's not buzzing.

What really impresses me is how 'stock' it appears.

[scottjf8]

So you can copy stuff that isn't an SMS or in a text box? I need to reinstall it.

[ZR_Yancy]

"What really impresses me is how 'stock' it appears."

Except when it's used in landscape orientation. I'm giving it another try. I actually copied that quote Clippy. There's an SBS toggle for Clippy but I don't see why you would need to disable it. Does it use up a lot of resources?

[Napoleon_PhoneApart]

So how to you copy web content with Clippy?

[Rip]

So how to you copy web content with Clippy?

Like I just did with the line above.

Hold over text to copy until clippy pops up then hit copy.

Then to to where you want to paste and hold again until clippy pops up. You then paste clipboard or stack.

[ZR_Yancy]

Just touch and hold your find on the content. Then select copy. I noticed you can't press down too hard or it won't activate clippy.

[Napoleon_PhoneApart]

So how to you copy web content with Clippy?

Like I just did with the line above.

Hold over text to copy until clippy pops up then hit copy.

Then to to where you want to paste and hold again until clippy pops up. You then paste clipboard or stack.

But do you have to copy the entire area of selected text, or can you choose which part of the text to copy? That's the feature I like most about hClipboard.

[Rip]

You can only get a line or cell, by then hClipboard only does editable boxes.

Horses for courses.

[ZR_Yancy]

I thought hClipboard was not capable of copying from static web content.

[wildonrio]

It copies by paragraph when the text is non-editable, and by letter if the text is editable (you can touch a drag the selection you want). hClipboard, in contrast, needs to be able to pop up the keyboard to be able to copy, i.e. only editable text. In other words, Clippy wins by leaps and bounds over hClipboard since Clippy does everything hClipboard can do, plus MUCH more, since I think less than 5% of the text you read on your iPhone is editable.

I edited the OP with screen shots if you would like to see how it looks!

Now I have a question for you guys: Don't you think it would incredibly smart of Apple to simply go against the established guidelines and APPROVE of this app for the App Store? They would make millions and millions of people extremely happy, and finally get rid of that annoying crowd of people who have been pestering them for copy and paste since June 29, 2007.

[Rip]

I hadn't figures the hold 'n' highlight. That makes it even better.

What I can't yet figure is why there's a need for an SB settings add on to disable it. Is it a memory hog?

[wildonrio]

I hadn't figures the hold 'n' highlight. That makes it even better.

What I can't yet figure is why there's a need for an SB settings add on to disable it. Is it a memory hog?
Good question! My knee jerk reaction was to be excited when I saw the SBsettings Clippy toggle, until I thought about it and realized that I would never turn it off. No it is not a memory hog at all.

[Napoleon_PhoneApart]

Well, folks, I'm just not getting it, I guess. I'm finding Clippy to be kludgy at best. Whenever I double-tap and hold on web text, I get a small box that gives me two options: Copy and Stack. I haven't yet been able to select text and highlight what I actually want to copy, so I guess I just don't get it.

Unless someone can point out to me what I'm doing wrong, it's back to the easy-to-use (at least for me), ever-reliable hClipboard.

[Rip]

You can't choose the web text to copy. Think of the text as being in a cell. It will copy the whole cell for you, or at least up to the CR/LF of a block of text.

I got 'good' with it by playing around with it in notepad.

I haven't used hClipboard since.

[Napoleon_PhoneApart]

You can't choose the web text to copy. Think of the text as being in a cell. It will copy the whole cell for you, or at least up to the CR/LF of a block of text.

I got 'good' with it by playing around with it in notepad.

I haven't used hClipboard since.

So you can't select, for instance, an individual sentence out of a paragraph? I thought you could.

I was using Notes as well. :smile:

[wildonrio]

So you can't select, for instance, an individual sentence out of a paragraph? I thought you could.

I was using Notepad as well. :smile:
If the text is EDITABLE you can select certain portions of it. If it isn't editable, like in say Safari, then you have to copy the entire paragraph. Later you can paste it in notepad and edit it down though.

In notepad it should be easy to select certain portions, just double tap and hold, then drag. Did you try that? Look in my screen shots in the OP.

[ZR_Yancy]

You can also select/highlight in email. Just touch/hold. The magnify glass will appear. Keep your finger on the screen. The magnify glass will lighten up. Remove your finger. Options should pop up to copy,paste,stack,cut, etc.

[wildonrio]

You can also select/highlight in email. Just touch/hold. The magnify glass will appear. Keep your finger on the screen. The magnify glass will lighten up. Remove your finger. Options should pop up to copy,paste,stack,cut, etc.
Right, that goes back to the editable text. Notepad, email, webaddress, anywhere where you have a pop-up keyboard. When there's no keyboard, you can't touch a drag. Only copy the whole paragraph by touching and holding.

[Napoleon_PhoneApart]

Right, that goes back to the editable text. Notepad, email, webaddress, anywhere where you have a pop-up keyboard. When there's no keyboard, you can't touch a drag. Only copy the whole paragraph by touching and holding.

Okay. I was only referring to Safari as far as copying text. I guess I just find hClipboard better in that respect. I can select what text I want to copy in Safari without moving it to Notes and editing it down. That's what I like about hClipboard.

[ZR_Yancy]

I didn't think hClipboard can copy static web content because the only way to activate hClipboard is to activate the keyboard in an editable field. Am I wrong?

[Napoleon_PhoneApart]

I didn't think hClipboard can copy static web content because the only way to activate hClipboard is to activate the keyboard in an editable field. Am I wrong?

There are a couple of bookmarklets that allow you to copy web text with hClipboard.; I use it all the time for this.

[monkeysrock0622]

Somebody needs to make a video so napolean can understand lol.

With hClipboard you can only copy text that you can edit, like SMS, notes, email, etc. But in things like safari, you can only copy the text that is in the URL/google bar.

With clippy, just open up a webpage, like EIC and hold your finger over a paragraph. The menu pops up, copy it. Then web you need to paste it, just hold your finger down and hit paste. then you can delete the parts of it that you don't want. You don't have to hold down the delete key on the keyboard, you can select whatever you want, like the first 3 sentences, and when it is highlighted you can either cut, or hit delete on the keyboard.

[wildonrio]

I understand what Napoleon is talking about, and he's right. That bookmarklet he is talking about really gives hClipboard an edge over Clippy as far as copying Safari text. In that respect, hClipboard retains value.

As for the other 95% of text in the iPhone, hClipboard can't copy it. So in another respect, it sucks.

My solution is to use them both in conjunction, with Clippy being used a LOT more.

[Napoleon_PhoneApart]

Somebody needs to make a video so napolean can understand lol.

With hClipboard you can only copy text that you can edit, like SMS, notes, email, etc. But in things like safari, you can only copy the text that is in the URL/google bar.

Perhaps I should make a video of me copying text from a web page; I do it all the time, and I'm not talking about URLs and editable text.

This excerpt is from the following page:

http://www.iphonehacks.com/2009/01/hclipboard-best-jailbreak-app-for-copy-and-paste-feature-for-the-iphone.html

"Just like Clippy, one of limitiations of ℏClipboard as a keyboard extension is that it can only be used where iPhone's virtual keyboard could be enabled, so you cannot use it to copy text from iPhone's Safari browser. However, developer of aptly named CopyingTextFromSafari has provided a workaround to copy text from a webpage or the entire webpage on your iPhone using ℏClipboard. You can follow the instructions mentioned here (http://code.google.com/p/networkpx/wiki/CopyingTextFromSafari)to add the bookmarklets.You can then use the bookmarklet to copy the entire contents of the webpage or the bookmarklet to copy text from a webpage in conjunction with ℏClipboard."


I find this procedure extremely easy and I use it often.

[wildonrio]

Napoleon,

You are talking about editable text, I just don't think you know it. I have used that bookmarklet. What it does is turn any paragraph you click on into editable text, i.e., text that has a cursor, that you can backspace, add to, etc. Now that it's editable text, hClipboard can copy it.

But do you understand why Clippy is so much better? It can do that too. You could use that bookmarklet with Clippy if you want to, and drag selections around the text that you want. Or if you're cool with the whole paragraph, just hold you finger over it for a second.

Please explain to me how hClipboard could possibly be the better alternative to Clippy, it just doesn't make sense to me at all. The fact that hClipboard requires a pop-up keyboard at all times to function means that it is severely limited compared to Clippy which just needs text on the screen. And when there is a keyboard on the screen (i.e. you have clicked on editable text) Clippy can do EVERYTHING hClipboard can do.

[Napoleon_PhoneApart]

Napoleon,

You are talking about editable text, I just don't think you know it. I have used that bookmarklet. What it does is turn any paragraph you click on into editable text, i.e., text that has a cursor, that you can backspace, add to, etc. Now that it's editable text, hClipboard can copy it.

But do you understand why Clippy is so much better? It can do that too. You could use that bookmarklet with Clippy if you want to, and drag selections around the text that you want. Or if you're cool with the whole paragraph, just hold you finger over it for a second.

Please explain to me how hClipboard could possibly be the better alternative to Clippy, it just doesn't make sense to me at all. The fact that hClipboard requires a pop-up keyboard at all times to function means that it is severely limited compared to Clippy which just needs text on the screen. And when there is a keyboard on the screen (i.e. you have clicked on editable text) Clippy can do EVERYTHING hClipboard can do.

Well, let me try that and see how I like it.

[wildonrio]

The only thing that hClipboard might do better is instead of dragging across the text you want like Clippy requires, hClipboard just has you click just before the text you want, push a button, then click after, and push another button. This could be argued to be simpler, i.e. better. This is why I keep hClipboard around. If you want to copy like 10 paragraphs, with Clippy I need to hold and drag for like a minute.

Also, hClipboard is slightly quicker at putting in usernames and passwords.

[Napoleon_PhoneApart]

As for the other 95% of text in the iPhone, hClipboard can't copy it. So in another respect, it sucks.

What is the other 95% that hClipboard sucks at? I can't copy SMS with it, but what else won't it copy?

I'm really not trying to come across as an hClipboard evangelist here, but I need to understand.

I tried your latest suggestion, wildonrio, but Clippy is still kludgy for me, at least. I'll stick to hClipboard for the time being. Thanks for all the advice, though.

[monkeysrock0622]

What is the other 95% that hClipboard sucks at? I can't copy SMS with it, but what else won't it copy?

I'm really not trying to come across as an hClipboard evangelist here, but I need to understand.

I tried your latest suggestion, wildonrio, but Clippy is still kludgy for me, at least. I'll stick to hClipboard for the time being. Thanks for all the advice, though.
The thing I hate about hClipboard is that it can only be used as an additional keyboard. Sometimes I hit the world key on accident and its annoying to have to hit the world key two more times (i have emoji) to get back to normal

[wildonrio]

What is the other 95% that hClipboard sucks at? I can't copy SMS with it, but what else won't it copy?

I'm really not trying to come across as an hClipboard evangelist here, but I need to understand.

I tried your latest suggestion, wildonrio, but Clippy is still kludgy for me, at least. I'll stick to hClipboard for the time being. Thanks for all the advice, though.
Wow. Well let me outline it for you. hClipboard can be used to copy text from:

Email (must hit "Forward" first so the text becomes editable)
Text (only one that you are currently writing)
Safari (with the bookmarklet installed)
Notepad
Any password box

That's all I can think of right now...

In contrast, Clippy can be used with:

Virtually any of the 20,000+ App Store and Cydia apps

For example, go to the App Store and then to the Top 25. Let's say you want to tell your friend what the top app is right now, but it's too long to remember/type. With Clippy you push and hold on the name of the app and it will copy. hClipboard will not copy the name of the app. There are countless examples of this all throughout all the apps.

Do you know the difference between just normal text on the phone and text that you can delete/add? If you knew that difference, you would be able to see why Clippy is clearly more useful.

[ZR_Yancy]

Yeah it copies almost anything from any app. I just tried copying SMS, messages on Tweetie and to my surprise, the copy/stack bubble popped up. Now if they can fix the landscape problem.

[Napoleon_PhoneApart]

Wow. Well let me outline it for you.

I really didn't need the "wow." I know you're better than that.

I didn't think about apps on the AppStore, that's all. I don't spend lot of time with apps from the AppStore that could use copy & paste, so I naturally don't think about Clippy's uses with them.

I guess I should let this drop.

Thanks anyway.

[drumthrasher109]

Holy crap, you can select your own text? Does it have to be editable text or could be it text on a website...

Another question: Should I dump hClipboard for this? I like how I can copy my passwords in hClipboard and stuff, but I don't like switching keyboards, because there is kind of a lag between when you tap on the keyboard changer icon thinger and when it actually comes up.

[ZR_Yancy]

The text doesn't have to be editable for Clippy to copy.

I would suggest to keep both & see which one you prefer before uninstalling either tweak.

[wildonrio]

I really didn't need the "wow." I know you're better than that.

I didn't think about apps on the AppStore, that's all. I don't spend lot of time with apps from the AppStore that could use copy & paste, so I naturally don't think about Clippy's uses with them.

I guess I should let this drop.

Thanks anyway.
Napoleon,

Hey I'm sorry about the "wow" comment, I reread it and I can tell how that can sound condescending. I actually meant it in more of the "wow, let me try and think of the best way to word this", really directed towards myself not you. Here's a clip from Family Guy where Peter uses it in similar context (at about 0:08 in). I hope this clears up any misunderstanding:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7gMOZQ3-XME

And if you never use App Store apps I can see why hClipboard might suit you better.

[Ezekiel2517]

the only place i can really see hclipboard excel in is safari, but other than that clippy is a bit more versatile. until one of them gets the art of copy/paste perfected , im going to keep them both around and use which ever one would work best at each situation i run into

[Napoleon_PhoneApart]

Napoleon,

Hey I'm sorry about the "wow" comment, I reread it and I can tell how that can sound condescending. I actually meant it in more of the "wow, let me try and think of the best way to word this", really directed towards myself not you. Here's a clip from Family Guy where Peter uses it in similar context (at about 0:08 in). I hope this clears up any misunderstanding:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7gMOZQ3-XME

And if you never use App Store apps I can see why hClipboard might suit you better.

Well, now that you put it in Family Guy terms, I can see what you were trying to say! :smile:

Also, it's not that I don't use AppStore apps - it's just that I don't really use too many that would lend themselves to copy & paste.

[ihack]

Since the last update I can no longer copy any static content :( I hold down on the screen and I only get the stack option. Did they change how to do this? Thanks

[ZR_Yancy]

BOO! What did the dev do?! I'm experiencing the same thing.

[Barachus]

that has just been fixed in the new update

how do u access the settings pane?

[ZR_Yancy]

iPhone Settings > Clippy

Thank goodness for the update. I was about to uninstall it.

[ihack]

Anyone with the update check a bug for me? With clippy on go into the alarm app and try and toggle the on off switch for a alarm. In the alarm app my screen don't function at the top to use the toggles. I have to go into settings and turn off clippy for native apps then I can toggle my alarms again.

[Rip]

Anyone with the update check a bug for me? With clippy on go into the alarm app and try and toggle the on off switch for a alarm. In the alarm app my screen don't function at the top to use the toggles. I have to go into settings and turn off clippy for native apps then I can toggle my alarms again.

I've just done that and mine works fine.

Just to confirm I edited the label of the alarm with Clippy and then went back to toggle and it was fine.

[ihack]

Hmmm. Do you have all the clippy plug ins?

[Rip]

I don't have any of the plug-ins?

When you say 'all', I only know of search.

Which others are there?

[ihack]

I have scroll, search,phone, and another one I forgot. I think there is 5 or 6 total

[ihack]

Ok. A new update this morning fixed my problem. :)

[wildonrio]

Crap I kinda miss Clippy since I installed 3.0 and can't jailbreak yet. Clippy I actually think has an edge on Apple's official copy/paste since it can copy things that Apple's can't. What are these plug-ins you guys are talking about?

[ihack]

In cydia there is now plugins for clippy. I don't remember them all.

Search= copy any text then click search and will search the web

Preview= let's you preview what you coppied

Scroll = this adds a scroll to top and scroll to bottom in the clippy menu

Dial= any set of numbers you copy you will also get an option to dial that number.

And a Sbsetting toggle. :)

[Rip]

I just installed the Preview and Dial plug-ins.

Preview shows you what you've selected, ready to copy, and Dial shows and option to dial a number if you select a phone number. Both work well.

[acosmichippo]

i uninstalled clippy yesterday. It worked fine when i was testing it to see if it worked, but anytime i REALLY needed to copy/paste something, it would bug out. I was trying to paste a link from my photobucket account yesterday, and it kept freezing safari.

[Napoleon_PhoneApart]

I'm really liking 3.0's copy & paste. I wish it had a stack feature, but I'm still enjoying it.

[Ezekiel2517]

i wonder whats going to happen to clippy once 3.0 comes out. youd think it would interfere with the system's copy and paste? or maybe it would completely change to try to work with it to make it better (ex. adding the stack, other plugins, copy more things)?

[wildonrio]

All I know is that the Clippy developer probably said a curse or two when Apple announced copy/paste. Poor guy, I really respect him for developing copy/paste since we really had no indication if Apple was ever going to do it. Hopefully he can figure out a way to integrate it with Apple's version and improve it with stacking and extended functionality, and not feel like he wasted his time :/

[Napoleon_PhoneApart]

All I know is that the Clippy developer probably said a curse or two when Apple announced copy/paste. Poor guy, I really respect him for developing copy/paste since we really had no indication if Apple was ever going to do it. Hopefully he can figure out a way to integrate it with Apple's version and improve it with stacking and extended functionality, and not feel like he wasted his time :/

Agreed. Even though I personally prefer hClipboard, Clippy's developer has put out an excellent product and supplied great support for it. He deserves kudos for what he's already done and I hope he continues to work on Clippy.

[toothdoc]

i like 3.0 but i miss clippy especially the stack feature. Come on Apple. Wake up and smell the Clippy what it is doing with stack!!!

[drumthrasher109]

The latest version of Clippy freezes Safari (and whatever app that uses the Safari API) way too much. I have the Clippy SBSettings toggle so I can turn it off and on whenever I need to.

[ZR_Yancy]

It seems like every other update is a bug.

[Napoleon_PhoneApart]

i like 3.0 but i miss clippy especially the stack feature. Come on Apple. Wake up and smell the Clippy what it is doing with stack!!!

The inclusion of a stack feature would complete Apple's copy & paste for me.

[drumthrasher109]

It seems like every other update is a bug.

Yup. They fix one thing, then something else happens. I'm seriously thinking about getting rid of Clippy. If I need to copy and paste something that bad, then I'll get on a computer or just take a screenshot.

[wildonrio]

Yeah it sucks that Clippy is so unpredictable with their updates, but if you look on the bright side, it means that they are obviously doing lots of work on Clippy and taking daring programming risks to make it better, which doesn't always work. All of this means that, when the final product comes out, it's gonna be good. And they definitely have their work cut out for them now that Apple is officially supporting c/p. If Apple doesn't do stack, Clippy will always have a huge edge.

[Napoleon_PhoneApart]

If Apple doesn't do stack, Clippy will always have a huge edge.

I don't know about a "huge edge." I'd like a stack feature in the official copy & paste, but I'll take Apple elegant solution. Just my opinion.

[acosmichippo]

clippy needs to work consistently before it has an edge on anything.

[Napoleon_PhoneApart]

clippy needs to work consistently before it has an edge on anything.

It looks as if hClipboard is looking like the more stable of the two apps.

[ZR_Yancy]

New update again fixed the Safari crashing bug.

[drumthrasher109]

Yeah. So far so good!

[Psonyk]

I'm keeping my fingers crossed.

I uninstalled Clippy a few months ago and stuck to hClipboard because of how it made Safari unbelievably unstable.

Now, out of curiosity, I just reinstalled it and so far, I'm impressed.

What hClipboard has that Clippy doesn't is templates though. In hClipboard, I have templates for various hotspot logins and website username and passwords I can paste in quick as opposed to Clippy where I have to go through the whole stack list to find them and paste them. It's a whole lot more complicated and time consuming.

On the flipside, copying text is a whole lot faster with Clippy than hClipboard ( considering I'm french-canadian and have Emoji installed so I have to cycle through 3 other keyboards before getting hClipboard ).

As long as it STOPS CRASHING SAFARI, I might just keep Clippy this time around.

Now, if only Clippy could save templates or have STACK CATEGORIES much like bookmarks in Safari where you would choose, say, LOGINS, the screen flips right and you have saved passwords there, I would have no need for hClipboard anymore.

Besides, that would be. So. Awesome.

* secretly wishes *

:-)

[drumthrasher109]

I don't understand what the Templates feature in hClipboard is supposed to do.

[shutter13]

I don't understand what the Templates feature in hClipboard is supposed to do.


Kinda the exact thing templates in SMS does, it gives you preloaded stuff to paste in. Nice feature IMO, when I was using iRealSMS I liked it for the quick reply and/or the quicksend. But you could use it whereever you might need to, notes, email, sms etc....

[ZR_Yancy]

Has anybody's Clippy state that Beta has expired? I can't use it.

[scottjf8]

Has anybody's Clippy state that Beta has expired? I can't use it.

Do the latest update in Cydia

[ZR_Yancy]

The latest version in Cydia is 0.94. I know there's a newer version but Cydia is not giving me the option to update.

[Psonyk]

Not getting the "beta expired" thing in Clippy.

And here's something else I'm not getting : the magnifying glass.

It worked the day I reinstalled Clippy and on first reboot, gone. I thought they fixed that, what gives ? And also, in an active text field (like as I'm writing this right now in the Quick Reply box), I'm double-tapping and leaving my finger pressed and no Clippy pop-up. I mean, none. Didn't even come up once.

Any non-active text field works like a charm though.

Anybody else experiencing these things too ?

If it keeps being this unstable, unreliable and, well, pretty darn counter-productive, I'll have to resort to uninstall it like I did the first time.

[ZR_Yancy]

Ok. Looks like Cydia finally updated & I downloaded the latest release. Everything's good now.

[rarity]

I love it now, works great.

[fc97accord]

Does anyone have issues when clippy is on that it there is a lag when typing in safari (to we forums etc..)?

it seems to me the problem, as when I disable clippy it is ok no lag when typing.

[drumthrasher109]

Typing in Safari has always been sluggish.

[fc97accord]

Typing in Safari has always been sluggish.

Not just the initial delay, but worst than most times. It seems that only a respring helps as I am typing this with clippy of there is still a slight lag. Drives me crazy!!!

[drumthrasher109]

Try disabling Clippy with the Clippy SBSettings toggle to see if it helps.

[wlanguide]

I ve got one, very nice indeed.