iPhone 4G...wow!

[Picazzo]

http://www.linkmaster.dk/diverse/iphone4g.jpg

[aknightstale41]

Nice...i might have to camp out again for this.

[Lincoln]

Nope. If that was the real thing, Jon Appleseed would be on the screen.

[Emerica]

Looks good none the less.

[iKungFu]

As I said on 9to5Mac yesterday, you can't beat the combination of video chat and pizza with a phone sharp enough to slice it. :)

[Napoleon_PhoneApart]

If that was real, I could see the posts now:

"Uh, I accidentally bent my iPhone in half. Do you think Apple with replace it free of charge?" :smile:

[Emerica]

I just had to LOL @ napoleon's cmnt.

[IphoneTony]

I love the thought of ichat but what stinks about it, I don't have any friends with an iphone maybe they will all buy one so I can use this feature when it comes out

[Ezekiel2517]

*sigh*.... i really wish people would stop calling it "4g"... :frown:

[Nakai]

actually, i have heard rumours of the next iPhone being able to watch TV and goes all the way to 32GB.......the shape is the same..

[Picazzo]

I really like this design-layout for a possible new iPhone ("4G/3.0"). Especially the bigger display, and the slim look from the side. I also like the silver colour and the front cam!

[jerzey111]

*sigh*.... i really wish people would stop calling it "4g"... :frown:

yea me too. 3g does not mean 3rd generation.... :angry:

[aggieman]

ditto. 3G is a reference to the network, not what generation model it is. Technically we are only on the 2nd generation model. AT&T's 4g network will not be ready for quite some time.

[doron]

http://www.youbseen.dk/diverse/iphone4g.jpg


i told these guys this months ago..and they laughed me...now look who's laughn...LOL LOL iChat on your phone..the next boom!

[psylichon]

No way it will be that thin, unfortunately. Pretty sexy, though. In black.

[aggieman]

i told these guys this months ago..and they laughed me...now look who's laughn...LOL LOL iChat on your phone..the next boom!

i don't see it being much more than a novelty, or at this point even a rumor. I sure don't wanna hold my phone directly in front of me while i'm talking to someone and hold it still so they can see up my nose. i'd rather see other features such as mms, c/p, ability to attach files in email, etc.

[Picazzo]

i don't see it being much more than a novelty, or at this point even a rumor. I sure don't wanna hold my phone directly in front of me while i'm talking to someone and hold it still so they can see up my nose. i'd rather see other features such as mms, c/p, ability to attach files in email, etc.

Remember - you can turn this "video-feature" off, and the excuse will be, that you don't wanna use all this data on your friends... ;)

And I'm sorry to say that I don't agree with you!..MMS is old fashion, in old mobiles - not a great mobile-gadget as the iPhone 3.0. I would like to talk with my little niece while see her smiley face etc. (But I respect your need!)

[psylichon]

I'll go on record agreeing with Doron that the next phone will have probably have this.

And I will also go on record agreeing with everyone else that I don't really want this and would rather spend my money on other features.

[aggieman]

Remember - you can turn this "video-feature" off, and the excuse will be, that you don't wanna use all this data on your friends... ;)

And I'm sorry to say that I don't agree with you!..MMS is old fashion, in old mobiles - not a great mobile-gadget as the iPhone 3.0. I would like to talk with my little niece while see her smiley face etc. (But I respect your need!)

i agree and if every phone was as great as the iPhone MMS would not be necessary. However, most people still have flip phones of some sort and it is still the main means of sending instant pictures. I know of the email work around but for simple people using simple phones explaining to them how to email from their razr to my iPhone is almost as painful as pulling my back hairs out one by one. Until MMS is completely dead and all phones are email friendly it is nice to have the option if one wants to use it.

However, MMS is not the main thing I want. the other things I listed are far more important. I could care less about sending pictures for the most part although it's nice to occasionally do so. C/P, A2DP, easily attaching files or downloading files and saving to my phone are far more important. I do have faith that Apple is listening to their customers needs and will implement all of this at some point but only time shall tell.

[aggieman]

No way it will be that thin, unfortunately. Pretty sexy, though. In black.


i'd be worried about breaking a phone that thin if I put it in my pocket, but like you said it would look killer in black.

[doron]

i don't see it being much more than a novelty, or at this point even a rumor. I sure don't wanna hold my phone directly in front of me while i'm talking to someone and hold it still so they can see up my nose. i'd rather see other features such as mms, c/p, ability to attach files in email, etc.


seriously do not think that at this point it would be a rumor considering that they have made the concept visibly public





Remember - you can turn this "video-feature" off, and the excuse will be, that you don't wanna use all this data on your friends... ;)

And I'm sorry to say that I don't agree with you!..MMS is old fashion, in old mobiles - not a great mobile-gadget as the iPhone 3.0. I would like to talk with my little niece while see her smiley face etc. (But I respect your need!)


ah man, the video feature off makes it even nicer...i co-sign on that





I'll go on record agreeing with Doron that the next phone will have probably have this.

And I will also go on record agreeing with everyone else that I don't really want this and would rather spend my money on other features.


thanks psy-...i thought i was alone in this world...LOL

[acosmichippo]

The Touches are about that thin, and they seem pretty durable.

Still, it WON'T be that thin, but I do dig the design... Fits right in with the other iPods.

[doron]

The Touches are about that thin, and they seem pretty durable.

Still, it WON'T be that thin, but I do dig the design... Fits right in with the other iPods.


co-sign...

[psylichon]

seriously do not think that at this point it would be a rumor considering that they have made the concept visibly public


You do realize that this concept isn't from Apple, right? There are dozens of these leading up to each iPhone release, but none of them are ever official.

[aggieman]

You do realize that this concept isn't from Apple, right? There are dozens of these leading up to each iPhone release, but none of them are ever official.

i've yet to see anything official from Apple hinting at this. not sure where people are getting this from. That's simply a photoshop job somebody did while they were bored.

[ADDam]

Does anyone remember when we saw the actual design for the 3G? How far before the release date?

[doron]

You do realize that this concept isn't from Apple, right? There are dozens of these leading up to each iPhone release, but none of them are ever official.

i've yet to see anything official from Apple hinting at this. not sure where people are getting this from. That's simply a photoshop job somebody did while they were bored.

Does anyone remember when we saw the actual design for the 3G? How far before the release date?


ok-ok-ok fine! LOL...what, yall tryin' to crush my hypeness! ...like GRUNDY CRUSH!

[psylichon]

Does anyone remember when we saw the actual design for the 3G? How far before the release date?

Um... we didn't. At least I don't remember it. Not until Steve's keynote did we have anything official.

[doron]

official-smofficial! bah! LOL...but yeah yall definitely gotta point...that concept model chris posted is rather nice tho'...silver/iChat/a REMOVABLE battrE...ah man nice!...

[Napoleon_PhoneApart]

Does anyone remember when we saw the actual design for the 3G? How far before the release date?

I remember seeing pictures of 3G case molds that "proved" the existence of a front-facing camera for video conferencing. After that, I'm taking these highly unofficial rumors with not only a grain of salt, but a whole salt lick.

Besides, Apple won't give you everything to want in the next iPhone; they'll need to hold something back for the 2010 model. :smile:

[Youngbinks]

As if a large amount of iPhone users using regular EDGE and 3G to check mail and go online wasn't a large enough drain on the network, now I have to worry about people video chatting and hogging it up even more?

I will be saddened by video chat if it means neglecting other features, which I'm sure it will.

[aggieman]

Um... we didn't. At least I don't remember it. Not until Steve's keynote did we have anything official.

if i remember correctly, the only thing we saw was a few cases that kinda showed the new form a few weeks before the actual announcement and then some photos came out a few days before on places like macrumors, most people believed them to be fake but they turned out to be spot on.

[aggieman]

As if a large amount of iPhone users using regular EDGE and 3G to check mail and go online wasn't a large enough drain on the network, now I have to worry about people video chatting and hogging it up even more?

I will be saddened by video chat if it means neglecting other features, which I'm sure it will.


i agree with ya on all points Phil.

The network is already near its capacity. unless AT&T really upgrades its 3g network, video chat would suck. I'd be ok with an iChat app sans video that runs in the background without disconnecting however.

[Picazzo]

The network outside is getting faster and faster - just remember the old days with 56K computer modem...

[Saverino]

Does anyone remember when we saw the actual design for the 3G? How far before the release date?

In the iPhone SDK, the front of the 3G was shown. (Border around the screen)

[josmi]

It's shape reminds me of an alien. Skinny frame, oversized head. o_0

[Napoleon_PhoneApart]

The network outside is getting faster and faster - just remember the old days with 56K computer modem...

Heck, youngster - I remember when my brother had a 300 baud modem and when I bought my first 2400 baud modem.

[monkeysrock0622]

the 3G symbol isn't even right...and the home button looks funny. Other than that it's pretty good looking :)

[acosmichippo]

the more i look at it, the more i love this design... which is too bad, because i'm sure the real thing is nothing like it.

and i'm not so confident that the next version will have video chat. heck, we don't even have a video RECORDER yet on the iphone, which IS possible with the current hardware.

[drumthrasher109]

I just hope that they'll bring most of the new features in the new iPhone into the older iPhone 3G/iPhone.

[iHuman]

I've said this before, but Apple usually does a complete overhaul for their 3rd generation of a product. Besides, it will be just in time for all the early adopters to ditch the old for the new as the 2 year contracts will be up. However, I agree. It was nice to get some 2nd gen software features on the 1st gen phone.

I also look forward to iChat AV, even if it is somewhat novelty. The option may be video only with WiFi connection. That way there won't be such a drain on the AT&T network.

[minivini]

I've said this before, but Apple usually does a complete overhaul for their 3rd generation of a product. Besides, it will be just in time for all the early adopters to ditch the old for the new as the 2 year contracts will be up. However, I agree. It was nice to get some 2nd gen software features on the 1st gen phone.

I also look forward to iChat AV, even if it is somewhat novelty. The option may be video only with WiFi connection. That way there won't be such a drain on the AT&T network.

Even though ALL this talk is purely speculation, I agree that it would be surprising if (at least initially) the hypothectical video chat would work over the cell network. Believe it or not, there is still a HUGE chunk of the US that does not have access to the 3G network. They could easily enable video over cell in a future firmware update.

I haven't kept up with the whole Apple/Cingular/ATT exclusivity agreement and it's evolution, but we are approaching the original end date. I can only imagine that if Apple has the ability to open the flood gates and let other carriers have a go, and maybe even sell unlocked versions, the device will probably then see a major cosmetic overhaul.

Call me old fashioned, but as much as I like this MacBook Air looking iPhone, I prefer the photo posted on the home page of the Ti/glass version...

[psylichon]

I think we're overestimating the bandwidth requirements of mobile video teleconferencing. If the phone has a beefier CPU, there are lots of ways to highly compress video (especially if they keep the window small and low-framerate) so that a two-way conversation wouldn't take up much more bandwidth than a Pandora stream.

Just guessing.

[psylichon]

I haven't kept up with the whole Apple/Cingular/ATT exclusivity agreement and it's evolution, but we are approaching the original end date.

I thought it was 5 years... which would put it at summer 2012. I'm sure there are options for getting out before then, though.

[aggieman]

I thought it was 5 years... which would put it at summer 2012. I'm sure there are options for getting out before then, though.


that's what I thought as well.

[iHuman]

I think we're overestimating the bandwidth requirements of mobile video teleconferencing. If the phone has a beefier CPU, there are lots of ways to highly compress video (especially if they keep the window small and low-framerate) so that a two-way conversation wouldn't take up much more bandwidth than a Pandora stream.

Just guessing.


I agree, look at the low bandwidth that skype uses compared to iChat. There are many situations that have caused myself and other I was talking with to switch to skype, just to keep the video call going.

[drumthrasher109]

I don't think the video thing is going to be used that much...it's a cool idea, but I just don't see it being used by very many people.

[Emerica]

^ I do.

Anything from business calls, out of town family, deployed military, or just friends in general.

[acosmichippo]

Why would business people need to see each other?

[aggieman]

Why would business people need to see each other?


i know I wouldn't want business associates to see the faces I'm making on the other end of the phone when I'm talking to them.

[Picazzo]

I can see great reason for the videochat, but would like an option to switch it on/off. It's a great way to say hello to the family when you're far away!

[monkeysrock0622]

I can see great reason for the videochat, but would like an option to switch it on/off. It's a great way to say hello to the family when you're far away!
Of course there will be a way to turn it off...first of all not all phones (or any) in the US have video chat so you would have to be able to turn it off. Plus, it would use more battery and some people cant stand that. Just like turning off 3G.

[SmartAlx]

*sigh*.... i really wish people would stop calling it "4g"... :frown:

yea me too. 3g does not mean 3rd generation.... :angry:

Me also. And I wish people would stop calling the V1 iPhone the 2G!!!!! Edge is 2.5G not 2G.

[psylichon]

We could solve this by agreeing that reference to generation would be represented with the letter first.

V1 = G1
3G = G2
iPhone Video = G3

:D

[acosmichippo]

we SHOULD refer to them as 1,1; 1,2; and (hopefully) 2,1... but i have a feeling that won't catch on.

for now i think V1 and 3G will have to do.

[Napoleon_PhoneApart]

We could solve this by agreeing that reference to generation would be represented with the letter first.

V1 = G1
3G = G2
iPhone Video = G3

:D

But I thought the Android was the G1! :smile:

[psylichon]

I hear you on that one, Hips. If I thought the world was ready for it, I'd totally be behind you there.

[psylichon]

But I thought the Android was the G1! :smile:

Damn you........

[Saverino]

We could solve this by agreeing that reference to generation would be represented with the letter first.

V1 = G1
3G = G2
iPhone Video = G3

:D

That was a quick edit... You beat the "last edited by" thing. :wink:

[psylichon]

I do that all the time. The best thing about being a mod is that I never get an "edited" indicator anymore :D

[Cloverfield]

I'm loving that design. It will probably end up nothing like that but I wouldn't be annoyed if the new one looked like that. Anyone have any guesses to when it will be released? My contract runs out in May so I guess I'll just stay with the V1 iPhone till the new one is released...hopefully in the summer. Yeah right lol. Here's hoping.

P.S. The next one BETTER have video recording (not video chatting)

[acosmichippo]

i'm with ya, i love it too. There's no way it'll be that thin, but that's OK.

i could also go without video chat.

[Cloverfield]

It could possibly be that thin. Other stuff is and this is Apple we're talking about.

[Hawk]

I'm going to be the "Nay Sayer" and tell you that the new phone will probably look just like the 3G, and that besides an upgraded CPU and GPU, there won't be much in the way of change. We are all going to be severely disappointed when Video recording, Copy/paste, MMS, Flash, and everything else that the phone is lacking becomes very evident.





...of course, I love being proved wrong.

[psylichon]

I also don't see a heavy cosmetic change, nor a drastic thinning happening. If anything it would be a little thicker probably. I think they will just up CPU and memory and stick on a hot camera, keeping the software compatible with previous versions.

[ADDam]

To be honest, I DO NOT want it to be that thin. My sister has a iPod Touch, and it's way to thin for my liking.

I would like it to be the similarly shaped to the 3G, but a metal backing like the 1st gen.

[Picazzo]

I like the silver look at the front, the bigger screen, but it's too thin.

[acosmichippo]

too thin??? that really bothers you?

it's not much thinner than the new ipod touches and nanos... if at all.

[Mikozee]

I always said they needed to somehow implement a handy knife into phones! Good job Apple on implementing the first phone with the ability to shank people!

[doron]

well...any idea when they are going to release this alleged new iPhone...

[Youngbinks]

I'm going to guess June or July again. Apple likes the summer.

[Picazzo]

I'm going to guess June or July again. Apple likes the summer.

I agree on that!

[projectdarkside]

Yeah if its not broke dont fix it :wink:
-The iPhones design is perfect...Well the iPhone v1's hehe:2cool:

[Saverino]

Yeah if its not broke dont fix it :wink:
-The iPhones design is perfect...Well the iPhone v1's hehe:2cool:

It's also getting old.

[SmartAlx]

Yeah if its not broke dont fix it :wink:
-The iPhones design is perfect...
REALLY! there is an entire subculture of iPhone fans that would beg to differ...

http://pleasefixtheiphone.com/

[TAEWING59]

*sigh*.... i really wish people would stop calling it "4g"... :frown:

THANK YOU, 4G would refer to LTE, which when they releases the iphone supporting it should be called the "LTE" => "Light" (pronounce). the iPhone LTE or something similar

[projectdarkside]

REALLY! there is an entire subculture of iPhone fans that would beg to differ...

http://pleasefixtheiphone.com/ Oh I remember that site:2cool:
-One of the few one I would like to change phyiscally about the iPhone would be to keep the original aluminum design but add the "status "light":laugh2:

[drumthrasher109]

I hate how you have to have a Facebook account to post a comment.

I don't think most of those people know about jailbreaking...

[Hawk]

I hate how you have to have a Facebook account to post a comment.

I don't think most of those people know about jailbreaking...
They probably do know about it, but the list is for what Apple should have included in the software to begin with, and what they should add to match features found on generic smartphones.

Jailbreaking is a way to get many of those features, but it's unapproved and not part of the original OS programming, so stability is suspect. ( I know a lot of people here are jailbroken and "loving it", but I think there are just as many people that are or did have issues when jailbroken, and not all of them are due to user error.)

[BlackMonsterBandit]

i'd like to go on record and agreeing that video chat would be awesome but i think they need to get video recording off the ground first...which (i forget who posted) said they would prob hold out video chat till 2010...which is logical...as for the design...it looks awesome, but i tend to feel that the 3G (which i have) is too small for my hands...i have a hard case on it which adds just enough to be comfortable...and i've said it before, when V1 came out, i was agaisnt the iphone all together, had a chance to use a buddy's, and went out and got the 3G (once i got the money...haha) and im never looking back...as soon as V3 comes out ill be getting one...reguardless...i love it that much...contract be damned