I'm starting to hate the iPhone.

[wikoogle]

Yes, hate is a strong word. But slowly, I've come to hate this supposed all in one iphone 3G.

The phone's required monthly plan costs an arm and a leg. You're required to get the data plan, and they charge $20 on top of that for text messaging. You'll be easily forking over $100 a month just on the phone bill. That might be acceptable if the phone's feature's are top quality, but they're not.

The call quality isn't great, the speeds even with the 3G phone aren't that fast.

But the camera is my biggest disappointment with the iphone.

How Apple made such a crap camera into their premiere product, and then refused to update it with the 3G iPhone, I’ll never understand.

I’m still stuck lugging around my regular camera everywhere I go because the one on the iphone was so much worse than my previous camera phone.

Either include a camera good enough to replace the standard camera (my old phone’s 3.2 megapixel camera with flash took fantastic pictures), or don’t even bother including a camera.

Would including a bigger lense, 3.2 megapixels and a flash really have killed them?

I hate when people go the intermediate route.

Here’s to hoping that the Palm Pre’s camera is good. If so, I’ll be dumping the iphone for it or the HTC Touch HD at some point soon.

Pro:

They give you a plan that includes unlimited data. Correction, they REQUIRE you to buy a plan with unlimited data for 2 years. Then they charge an extra $20 on top of that for text messaging. Throw in the actual voice plan and it costs $100 a month. That's a pretty big pro if you often find extra money burning a hole in your pocket

Con:

How Apple made such a crap camera in the iphone, and then refused to update it with the 3G iPhone, I'll never understand. I'm still stuck lugging around my regular camera everywhere I go. The iphone was so much worse than my previous camera phone. Would including a bigger lense, 3.2 megapixels and a flash really have killed them?

[monkeysrock0622]

Did you really need the the pro and con thing? You just restated what you said before....

Also, I think they will be focusing more on the camera and related features for the next phone. They already did a great job on how to view your media, so now they can focus on how to make the media. Plus I remember right before the 3G was anounced there was something about Apple hiring camera technicians, and it was too late in the development for them to work on the 3G camera so I assume they hired them to work on the next one.

[Saverino]

I disagree about the camera. In low-lighting conditions, it does suck, but in good lighting conditions, it's fantastic... especially for a 2.0 MP camera.

[Youngbinks]

It is evident that the user often greatly affects the photos. Look at some of the photos in the "iPhone Photo Thread" and you will see some truly amazing pictures.

Sure having a 2 MP camera isn't the best when looking at some other phones, but then again, it IS a phone. Try downloading some Apps from the App Store for photography such as applications to help take better pictures in low light conditions and the sort.

[Picazzo]

Apple have never announced this iPhone as "The all-in-one" mobile! Apple have made something unique - the beautiful design, the nasty big touch screen, the AppStore (counting 15.000+ !!!...applications) etc.

Fair - the camera isn't the strong point of this phone - go buy Nokia if you need a better camera!

[talon90]

Fortunately, I didn't buy my iPhone for it's camera. Much like I would never buy any phone/PDA for a camera. I consider myself a pretty good photographer and I would never consider a cell phone camera as my medium. In an all-in-one device you have to expect everything to be pretty good and no one feature as a stand out. I always carry my camera. At least now I don't need to carry a phone, a pda, a camera and a laptop.

[Picazzo]

Fortunately, I didn't buy my iPhone for it's camera. Much like I would never buy any phone/PDA for a camera. I consider myself a pretty good photographer and I would never consider a cell phone camera as my medium. In an all-in-one device you have to expect everything to be pretty good and no one feature as a stand out. I always carry my camera. At least now I don't need to carry a phone, a pda, a camera and a laptop.

Don't get me wrong!...this iPhone isn't the "All-in-one" thing! When I'm going to buy a new technical thing, I'll always Google a lot to see what's hot and not! Did you do that?

[talon90]

Don't get me wrong!...this iPhone isn't the "All-in-one" thing! When I'm going to buy a new technical thing, I'll always Google a lot to see what's hot and not! Did you do that?

Indeed I did. Which to the OP point, I was not surprised that the camera was only a 2MP and only fair at that. I actually spent a couple of months looking at my options and talking to owners. I also owned an iPod Touch so I had a pretty good idea of what I was getting in to when I bought my iPhone 3G last week. I frankly couldn't be happier. The phone that I replaced was a Palm based Treo 755P. The camera was awful. The email was fair. The web browsing was horrible. Applications were pretty good but the screen was so small that it made actual work almost impossible. The iPhone really does take care of all of that for me and I get great music and video to boot. I looked at the Touch, the Instinct, the Blackberry Storm researched the other Palm offerings and what I found was that they were all trying to come close to doing what the iPhone all ready did. I bought the iPhone, Mission accomplished.

[Picazzo]

Indeed I did. Which to the OP point, I was not surprised that the camera was only a 2MP and only fair at that. I actually spent a couple of months looking at my options and talking to owners. I also owned an iPod Touch so I had a pretty good idea of what I was getting in to when I bought my iPhone 3G last week. I frankly couldn't be happier. The phone that I replaced was a Palm based Treo 755P. The camera was awful. The email was fair. The web browsing was horrible. Applications were pretty good but the screen was so small that it made actual work almost impossible. The iPhone really does take care of all of that for me and I get great music and video to boot. I looked at the Touch, the Instinct, the Blackberry Storm researched the other Palm offerings and what I found was that they were all trying to come close to doing what the iPhone all ready did. I bought the iPhone, Mission accomplished.

I think that we'll see some iPhones in "the near future" with 5MP+ camera (also in the front for video conversion!), but for now is about to love the features of the iPhone - and not tread it as a camera phone, but as a multimedia mobile phone for call, messages, surfing, gaming, business etc....and one thing is for sure - the touch screen is no. 1!

[kokogirl]

Yes, hate is a strong word. But slowly, I've come to hate this supposed all in one iphone 3G.

The phone's required monthly plan costs an arm and a leg. You're required to get the data plan, and they charge $20 on top of that for text messaging. You'll be easily forking over $100 a month just on the phone bill. That might be acceptable if the phone's feature's are top quality, but they're not.

The call quality isn't great, the speeds even with the 3G phone aren't that fast.

But the camera is my biggest disappointment with the iphone.

How Apple made such a crap camera into their premiere product, and then refused to update it with the 3G iPhone, I’ll never understand.

I’m still stuck lugging around my regular camera everywhere I go because the one on the iphone was so much worse than my previous camera phone.

Either include a camera good enough to replace the standard camera (my old phone’s 3.2 megapixel camera with flash took fantastic pictures), or don’t even bother including a camera.

Would including a bigger lense, 3.2 megapixels and a flash really have killed them?

I hate when people go the intermediate route.

Here’s to hoping that the Palm Pre’s camera is good. If so, I’ll be dumping the iphone for it or the HTC Touch HD at some point soon.

Pro:

They give you a plan that includes unlimited data. Correction, they REQUIRE you to buy a plan with unlimited data for 2 years. Then they charge an extra $20 on top of that for text messaging. Throw in the actual voice plan and it costs $100 a month. That's a pretty big pro if you often find extra money burning a hole in your pocket

Con:

How Apple made such a crap camera in the iphone, and then refused to update it with the 3G iPhone, I'll never understand. I'm still stuck lugging around my regular camera everywhere I go. The iphone was so much worse than my previous camera phone. Would including a bigger lense, 3.2 megapixels and a flash really have killed them?

I guess you made the wrong choice for you. Woah! That's a lot of money wasted.

[Picazzo]

Some people talk about the iPhone as the 9th wonder of this world - it isn't! I love my iPhone - oh yes!!!, and I wouldn't chose an other mobile if it had 8MP camera or MMS! It's the design, the interface, the memory, the music player, zooming on websites/pictures, the great games, and NO OTHER mobile got an AppStore with 15.000+ applications onboard for directly download - free or pay.

One day when the iPhone actually fly, do the MMS thing, taking professional pictures and cost 1$...people start saying this iPhone is a "all-in-one-piece" mobile!

[esegre]

make the media. Plus I remember right before the 3G was anounced there was something about Apple hiring camera technicians, and it was too late in the development for them to work on the 3G camera so I assume they hired them to work on the next one.[/QUOTE]

[Skol312000]

To the OP; i feel you man, this piece of **** doesnt even copy/paste or have themes(stock). But it has an ipod and the best browser and awesome screen. Real multitouch, looks good and a little mini-prestige. Its nice gpod quality wi-fi and its great. But it lacks major in many areas. The next one will be better...... For sure. For sure. Really. For sure. Theres too much $$$$. Involved

[Picazzo]

Let's start all over: it's a phone - a mobile phone!! With a nice design, great touch interface on a BIG screen. Then the iPhone have applications - a lot of them: 15.000+! The iPhone don't have MMS or copy/paste option, - but it has a lot of other great things to offer.

As I said before - "if you don't like the smell in the bakery" - move to another mobile...with all the features of the iPhone + MMS/copy...

[psylichon]

Anyone who calls the iPhone a POS or something worthy of being "hated" really is not seeing the big picture, in my opinion.

Taken as a whole, the iPhone offers more/$$ than any other phone on the market. Even with the latest competition, I still believe this fact. The iPhone is not perfect, but no phone is! Take the features and useability as a whole and the iPhone still smokes the competition easily.

I am NOT a fanboy, simply stating how I see the current state of the market. Your opinion can and will vary by user.

[Picazzo]

Anyone who calls the iPhone a POS or something worthy of being "hated" really is not seeing the big picture, in my opinion.

Taken as a whole, the iPhone offers more/$$ than any other phone on the market. Even with the latest competition, I still believe this fact. The iPhone is not perfect, but no phone is! Take the features and useability as a whole and the iPhone still smokes the competition easily.

I am NOT a fanboy, simply stating how I see the current state of the market. Your opinion can and will vary by user.

Dave...so right - the iPhone is a revolutionary piece of electronic! If we take a look at ALL these reviews on the internet, - the iPhone beat it's competitors!

[ADDam]

Whew, I pay less than $60 a month for mine! I was paying ~$90 when I was with Nextel, Now that was a waste of money! And as far as the camera goes, I know there not as good as my D90, But when you have decent lighting, I think it takes some pretty decent pictures...

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3473/3205918360_9d53a1ed23.jpg

[iconone]

iPhone and iPhone 3g = the best phone on the market! Even with it's flaws still the phone to beat.

[sheelz]

@OP: I'm sorry you're not happy with the iPhone. I won't expand on what others have said - they've put forward points on which I'm enough of a newbie to do so. However, your monthly tariff seems high to say the least. I pay £35 pm which includes 500 free SMS and 600 minutes free talktime to any number other than premium rate ones a month. Not only that I get unlimited surfing/data while in UK.

If I travel to Europe I get an add on package for around £10 to allow me a certain amount of internet access.

[ScenTiMentaL]

The camera is pretty good for a phone camera - but I would NEVER use a phone camera over a real camera. Ever. Camera phones will never have the features that I want. I would be happy if there was no camera in my phone, it might save a little space! I will never use it. I'm happy to carry my camera with it's Manual low light, and shutter settings with my phone..

[paul_h]

The phone's required monthly plan costs an arm and a leg. You're required to get the data plan, and they charge $20 on top of that for text messaging. You'll be easily forking over $100 a month just on the phone bill. That might be acceptable if the phone's feature's are top quality, but they're not.


If the iPhone's features are not "top quality" then I don't know what is. It is currently the phone to beat.

[iPhoneMonster]

Aww, Sorry mate, I love my iPhone. I don't use/need, copy & paste, MMS, the camera... I use e-mail more. The only thing is the price that I agree with you on. I'd rather have the camera like this, at least it looks good. Instead of having this ugly thing that I don't even use.

[PapaST]

Like another poster said... man it sucks he wasted all that money on a phone he doesn't like. Maybe he'll research the phone before he buys it next time. buuh-bye

[healewis]

Mmmmmmmmmmm!

[harleygold]

My only problem with this thread (and I didnt even read it) is someone didn't do their homework before purchasing it. And has one post at that! Folks I've done my homework ever since the iphone came out. Either bite your tongue or make it better. Lifes to short.

[TarekElsakka]

The HTC Touch Pro is an awesome phone, it's probably the 2nd best touch screen in the market. Of course iPhone is the very first :p.

[Napoleon_PhoneApart]

Let's start all over: it's a phone - a mobile phone!! With a nice design, great touch interface on a BIG screen. Then the iPhone have applications - a lot of them: 15.000+! The iPhone don't have MMS or copy/paste option, - but it has a lot of other great things to offer.

As I said before - "if you don't like the smell in the bakery" - move to another mobile...with all the features of the iPhone + MMS/copy...

Agreed.

Whatever happened to "research before purchase?"

[Napoleon_PhoneApart]

Aww, Sorry mate, I love my iPhone. I don't use/need, copy & paste, MMS, the camera... I use e-mail more. The only thing is the price that I agree with you on. I'd rather have the camera like this, at least it looks good. Instead of having this ugly thing that I don't even use.

I'm a huge proponent of copy & paste on the iPhone, but I knew that the iPhone didn't have C&P when I bought it.

[bubbatex]

Have to throw my 2 cents in here - I don't have an iPhone yet, but have a WM device and have had Treo's in the past. I have used copy and paste about twice in the past 3 years, but boy, I certainly am well aware that the iPhone does not have it right now. Dead horse. As for MMS (sorry, could care less - don't understand why you can't attach a pict to an email for gosh sakes), every where I go (Sprint, VZW and ATT) somone is complaining about some phone that will not support MMS. WM did not until recently at Sprint and BB's still don't. So, if MMS is so important to folks - why do you buy a device that CLEARLY does not support it? Dead horse #2. Move on.....

BTW - when I get an iPhone, I promise I will not come to this forum and complaint about c&p or MMS!

[jarofclay73]

Too bad people don't research products before they buy. The iPhone is not for everyone.

I LOVE my iPhone. I know how to use the camera to take great photos (http://www.flickr.com/photos/jarofclay73/sets/72157606135313843/). In fact, some friends of mine decided to compare the T-Mobile G1 camera (3.2MP, autofocus) with the iPhone's camera and THEY said (the G1 owners) the iPhone's picture quality came out better.

I pay about $90/month for my iPhone plus my father's normal cell phone. We have the lowest amount of minutes for our Family Plan and we a THOUSANDS of rollover minutes that I can use if I have to. Call quality is GREAT here in Honolulu. No dropped calls. And I think the 3G speeds are adequate. I know not everyone has blazing 3G speeds.

I don't know about you but I'm paying $5/month for 200 texts. I don't text that much.

[bubbatex]

jarofclay - sweet photos. That certainly blows my 2.0 camera on my Q9c away!

[Picazzo]

Too bad people don't research products before they buy. The iPhone is not for everyone.

I LOVE my iPhone. I know how to use the camera to take great photos (http://www.flickr.com/photos/jarofclay73/sets/72157606135313843/). In fact, some friends of mine decided to compare the T-Mobile G1 camera (3.2MP, autofocus) with the iPhone's camera and THEY said (the G1 owners) the iPhone's picture quality came out better.

I pay about $90/month for my iPhone plus my father's normal cell phone. We have the lowest amount of minutes for our Family Plan and we a THOUSANDS of rollover minutes that I can use if I have to. Call quality is GREAT here in Honolulu. No dropped calls. And I think the 3G speeds are adequate. I know not everyone has blazing 3G speeds.

I don't know about you but I'm paying $5/month for 200 texts. I don't text that much.

Great pictures taking by you and the iPhone!! iPhone pictures are super great for e-mailing and something like that - but what about the print quality?

[psylichon]

I've printed many iPhone photos and they look great at 4x6. As all pictures, if it's dark with no flash, it's going to be a bit grainy, but I'm always impressed with the quality of picture. It just takes a super-steady hand. Nightshot helps.

In bright sunlight, I LOVE the iPhone's camera.

[Londonrockz568]

Yes, hate is a strong word. But slowly, I've come to hate this supposed all in one iphone 3G.

The phone's required monthly plan costs an arm and a leg. You're required to get the data plan, and they charge $20 on top of that for text messaging. You'll be easily forking over $100 a month just on the phone bill. That might be acceptable if the phone's feature's are top quality, but they're not.

The call quality isn't great, the speeds even with the 3G phone aren't that fast.

But the camera is my biggest disappointment with the iphone.

How Apple made such a crap camera into their premiere product, and then refused to update it with the 3G iPhone, I’ll never understand.

I’m still stuck lugging around my regular camera everywhere I go because the one on the iphone was so much worse than my previous camera phone.

Either include a camera good enough to replace the standard camera (my old phone’s 3.2 megapixel camera with flash took fantastic pictures), or don’t even bother including a camera.

Would including a bigger lense, 3.2 megapixels and a flash really have killed them?

I hate when people go the intermediate route.

Here’s to hoping that the Palm Pre’s camera is good. If so, I’ll be dumping the iphone for it or the HTC Touch HD at some point soon.

Pro:

They give you a plan that includes unlimited data. Correction, they REQUIRE you to buy a plan with unlimited data for 2 years. Then they charge an extra $20 on top of that for text messaging. Throw in the actual voice plan and it costs $100 a month. That's a pretty big pro if you often find extra money burning a hole in your pocket

Con:

How Apple made such a crap camera in the iphone, and then refused to update it with the 3G iPhone, I'll never understand. I'm still stuck lugging around my regular camera everywhere I go. The iphone was so much worse than my previous camera phone. Would including a bigger lense, 3.2 megapixels and a flash really have killed them?

Ok First off, let me explain to you how your ignorance and stupidity came across in your original post.

Thanks for telling us you hate the iphone...however you payed the money and bought one, so kudos to you for "wasting your money on one of the best gadgets that came from a company that doesnt even specialize at making phones...yet it beat many of the phone companies at their own game, and even changed the way its played.

The call quality = AT&T's problem.... The Iphones Phone features/chipset are made by Samsung Group South Korea.

In your PRO's statement... Yes they require you to buy the data plan or you can be ignorant and refuse to buy it. $69.99 is a bargain compaired to the kilobyte charges you'll be racking up everytime you download/view or go online (3G) with the phone. To me AT&T is doing you a service...not many companies will require something that keeps you from paying them extra.

Also, 20bucks extra is an ADD ON option from the customer at the customers discretion. Its $20 bucks extra if YOU WANT to add Unlimited Text messaging. It is not required, and they do not force you to purchase it. This is stated on your Monthly Bill statement as an extra service/additional service/add on.

450 Minutes + Unlimited Data + Unlimited Text comes to exactly $105.07 per month here in Florida. (this is the plan i have and its what i pay.) I find it to be everything i need, and i dont mind paying that monthly since i knew that finantially it wasnt going to "break the bank".

In your CON's statement: Stop *****ing about its camera. It is highly irrational to think that if you got invited to say... a wedding you're going to show up with a phone/media device to take pictures. Im sorry, but even if i had a 7MP camera phone, i prolly wouldnt be taking pictures at special events with it. Thats why i bought a Nikon D90. The iphone's Camera is just a bare minimum on the go shooter camera.

Well, sorry that the phone didnt live up to your irrational and clearly misunderstood expactations.
Its a good device? Yes.
Is it the best at what it does? Maybe
Is it cheap? No
Should you have done your research before buying one? Yes.

[Londonrockz568]

Btw. i just saw JarofClays Iphone photos....beautiful.

[glsda]

I get really bored and fed up with the whiners. Londonrockz you do an exceptional job of of reading them the riot act in a manner such they they may learn something but I am not optimistic.

[jarofclay73]

Great pictures taking by you and the iPhone!! iPhone pictures are super great for e-mailing and something like that - but what about the print quality?

I'm not sure about my calculations, but if you take an iPhone photo at the full 1600x1200 then isn't that 22" x 16" at its maximum?

The hard part about getting nice iPhone photos is getting them in focus. I can sort of eyeball the focal point for the iPhone - I would say about 3 to 6 feet.

Night Camera definitely helps photos taken in low light or darkness.

[Londonrockz568]

I get really bored and fed up with the whiners. Londonrockz you do an exceptional job of of reading them the riot act in a manner such they they may learn something but I am not optimistic.

Me neither. Its the misunderstandings of the device and the expectations (whether they be rational or irrational) are what lead people to either hate the device or love the device.

I researched the device amongst all its hype and learned what it [can do], [will do], [does the best], [does well], [doesn't do]... and based my purchase on that. Those 5 things helped me understand what im buying instead of following the hype and setting high expectations that may disappoint later.

Money well spent IMHO.

[geordisjd]

Only crappy shooters get crappy pics with the iPhone!

http://gallery.mac.com/jacdem/100448/IMG_0003/web.jpg

http://gallery.mac.com/jacdem/100448/IMG_0844/web.jpg

Visit the "Post your iPhone pics" thread, and witness hundreds (thousands?) of great pics before making such a statement.

[moonkat]

Just check out this link - http://www.tuaw.com/2009/01/16/iphone-pix-making-front-pages/

The title of the article is
iPhone pix making front pages (http://www.tuaw.com/2009/01/16/iphone-pix-making-front-pages/)


Not bad for a phone that doesn't take good pictures.

[Youngbinks]

Only crappy shooters get crappy pics with the iPhone!

Visit the "Post your iPhone pics" thread, and witness hundreds (thousands?) of great pics before making such a statement.

Exactly the person I wanted to see this thread. Keep the great pics coming.

[geordisjd]

Exactly the person I wanted to see this thread. Keep the great pics coming.


"Where can I take a pic now???"

It's always on my mind :laugh2:!

[geordisjd]

Here's an interesting article by a professional photographer who happens to be using his iPhone camera too (http://blog.chasejarvis.com/blog/2008/12/5-tips-for-making-great-iphone-photos.html).

Nothing very new. The usual tips to get a good pictures, and I know a few more. I use multiple photographic apps. My favorite are Photogene and Panorama. I use them all the time. Others I like: Picoli, Colorator, Comic Touch, Fototimer. PIcards, Collage, Camera bag, Night camera, and a few other that have all their limited fun.

Panorama:

http://gallery.mac.com/jacdem/100502/Mt-20Evans--20Clouds-20ci/web.jpg

Colorator:

http://gallery.mac.com/jacdem/100534/photo/web.jpg

Collage:

http://gallery.mac.com/jacdem/100534/photo1232342841478/web.jpg

Comic touch:

http://gallery.mac.com/jacdem/100534/photo1232342882168/web.jpg

Did I mention doodling on a real pic (iDoodle2)?

http://gallery.mac.com/jacdem/100534/photo1232342951361/web.jpg

A completely unaltered pic tken indoors with Night Camera:

http://gallery.mac.com/jacdem/100534/IMG_0140/web.jpg

OK, that's enough for tonight...

[TarekElsakka]

Awesome pictures, I never knew such a horrible camera would do all that. Well, it takes a professional to benefit from it.

[Picazzo]

The last picture isn't that great - but with no flash...it's fair! :wink:

[TarekElsakka]

Well if we're going to nit-pick, then the 5th picture's quality isn't good at all, but the "doodling" makes the picture looks better. The guy with the glasses in the second picture looks like an actor, but I don't remember who he is at the moment.

[geordisjd]

None of the pics are professional, of course. The"actor" is my son, who doesn't act,
And yes, the last pic is the worst, but it's still not that bad considering it was very dark and without flash ;-(.


I'm going here today:

http://gallery.mac.com/jacdem/100502/Car-20at-20Arapahoe/web.jpg

And I sure hope there will be a lot more snow.

[TarekElsakka]

Wow very nice place, I hope you have fun there. But I am not saying he IS an actor, I am saying he looks like one of the actors that I've seen before, but I really don't remember who he is.

[Tug]

I guess you made the wrong choice for you. Woah! That's a lot of money wasted.


Actually if the OP were to sell his/her phone on ebay he/she would make a little money.

[macfone]

I think the camera takes pretty good photos, better then a razr but not as good as a treo. :2cool:

[macfone]

None of the pics are professional, of course. The"actor" is my son, who doesn't act,
And yes, the last pic is the worst, but it's still not that bad considering it was very dark and without flash ;-(.


I'm going here today:

http://gallery.mac.com/jacdem/100502/Car-20at-20Arapahoe/web.jpg

And I sure hope there will be a lot more snow.

Congrats! very nice shot. I am guessing it was taken in the spring or late winter? Thats if you took this picture.

[diagirl10]

Sorry to hear that. I love my iPhone. To each his own.

[Elbacanazo920]

The iPhone Is great. Hey There is always WinMo.

[ADDam]

Hey There is always WinMo.

http://userimages01.imvu.com/productdata/images_2332362a3e4d32e8d4861ed998e21d77.gif

[geordisjd]

Congrats! very nice shot. I am guessing it was taken in the spring or late winter? Thats if you took this picture.

Thanks. Yes, I did take the pic. It's Loveland Pass, CO, last December, right before Xmas, when I was whining we didn't have any real snow yet!

Same view, last Monday, also an iPhone panorama on the go:

http://gallery.mac.com/jacdem/100534/photo1232650181175/web.jpg

Avalanche danger area:

http://gallery.mac.com/jacdem/100534/photo1232650212598/web.jpg

[TarekElsakka]

You take like the best pictures with your iPhone, you're a good photographer.

[psylichon]

She's not as good with food ;)




We're in dire need of your pics on iRovr, Jackie!

[TarekElsakka]

Hah, food isn't an issue, there's always fast food :p.

[Plastikfear]

Indeed I did. Which to the OP point, I was not surprised that the camera was only a 2MP and only fair at that. I actually spent a couple of months looking at my options and talking to owners. I also owned an iPod Touch so I had a pretty good idea of what I was getting in to when I bought my iPhone 3G last week. I frankly couldn't be happier. The phone that I replaced was a Palm based Treo 755P. The camera was awful. The email was fair. The web browsing was horrible. Applications were pretty good but the screen was so small that it made actual work almost impossible. The iPhone really does take care of all of that for me and I get great music and video to boot. I looked at the Touch, the Instinct, the Blackberry Storm researched the other Palm offerings and what I found was that they were all trying to come close to doing what the iPhone all ready did. I bought the iPhone, Mission accomplished.

Same here. When the 2G came out I really wanted one but they wouldn't let AT&T employees have iPhones on our employee plans so I was jealous and envious and told everyone I hated iPhones. Then the 3G came out and they moved managers to a new plan where we could have iPhones. I just got mine a little while ago, and while the camera could use some better features (more mp, zoom, flash, video recording) its pretty decent for what it is... much better than my previous phone's camera even (Samsung Blackjack with 2.0 mp and 4 x zoom).

And the plans... if you get a Blackberry, you have to get unlimited data, too, and its packaged for $50.00 with unlimited text. So its the same with all smartphone/data-centric devices... the price is nothing new.