NextGeniPhone: Predictions on New Hardware & Release Dates.

[evolution83]

You have any fire hydrants nearby?

LOL nah, I'll just piss on someone if they screw up my good mood :)

[seanwes]

"In this keynote, will discuss what Apple is working on for the Mac, OS X, and iPhone."

[seanwes]

http://live.gizmodo.com/

By far best coverage of all the sites right now. Talking about the new 15" MacBook Pro now.

[evolution83]

I'm following that site as well. I love the auto refresh.

[iphonewarrior]

http://www.macrumorslive.com/

^ sorry. ^ is the best. It updates itself all the time. :)

[seanwes]

New Macbook Pro available today! Hope for iPhone? maybe??

[seanwes]

http://www.macrumorslive.com/

^ sorry. ^ is the best. It updates itself all the time. :)


I used them mostly too, but so far Gizmodo has been updating almost instantly, posting within 3 seconds. Plus they have 2 live bloggers, so they have a lot more info and pics up much faster than macrumors has.

[iphonewarrior]

I used them mostly too, but so far Gizmodo has been updating almost instantly, posting within 3 seconds. Plus they have 2 live bloggers, so they have a lot more info and pics up much faster than macrumors has.


I'll shut my mouth then lol :tounge:

(joke)

[seanwes]

I'll shut my mouth then lol :tounge:

(joke)


I've still got macrumors up tho. =) Dual monitors ftw!

[iphonewarrior]

I'm on the crapest computer ever!! I'm reverting to real power...

Constantly pressing the refresh button on the iphone.

[JWiPhone]

http://live.gizmodo.com/

By far best coverage of all the sites right now. Talking about the new 15" MacBook Pro now.

You are right, gizmodo is awesome..

[seanwes]

Safari 4 for Leopard, Tiger, and Windows shipping Today.

[evolution83]

OK. I've never owned a Mac PC / Laptop before, but whenever I get a new PC, I'll be sure to get a Mac. They're quite simply the best and far more advanced OS than Windows.

[Napoleon_PhoneApart]

I'm liking the MacRumors live update.

[seanwes]

QuicktimeX:

macrumors:
"Quicktime X lets you trim and share video using a visual timeline that makes it easy to select the part of the video you want. The edited clip can then be directly shared with YouTube, MobileMe, or iTunes."

Hoping with the iPhone video they will continue this thought with quick editing, and easy upload to video sites.

[seanwes]

Snow Leopard upgrade $29. Available September.

[iphonewarrior]

Snow Leopard upgrade $29. Available September.

I wonder how that will work- they did say for leopard users.... mmm interesting.


(FFS iphone iphone iphone)

[JWiPhone]

Finally, now the iPhone :)

[iphonewarrior]

iPhone time..... :wink:

[iphonewarrior]

This is it ladies and gents. What we've all been waiting for.

[iphonewarrior]

discussing the 3.0 update. 100 new features

[seanwes]

MMS later this summer!!! =( =( =(

[iphonewarrior]

Macrumors:

Cut/copy/paste/undo (works across all apps), landscape mode in Mail/Notes/Messages, MMS support (send and receive photos/contacts/audio files/locations) in Messages app (29 carriers in 76 countries will support MMS at launch -- AT&T not until later this summer), search (mail -- even on server, calendars, media, notes), spotlight (search everything in one place -- first page of the home screen).

[iphonewarrior]

Enhanced itunes- rent/buy moives, tv shows, music, audio books straight from the iphone

[evolution83]

I seriously cannot believe MMS will not be ready until this summer

FAIL!!!

[JWiPhone]

I think MacRumors Live is best..no commentary. They just give the information as it is presented.

[iphonewarrior]

Macrumors:

iTunes U is now supported in the iTMS on iPhone as well. Parental controls -- especially fine-grain over movies -- even over apps from the App Store. Internet tethering -- can use your phone's internet connection on your computer (Mac or PC) using USB or Bluetooth.

[iphonewarrior]

I think MacRumors Live is best..no commentary. They just give the information as it is presented.

It's brilliant. The only one i've used. It's good that they add pics etc...

[acosmichippo]

"Tethering is a seamless experience -- once it's on, you don't have to run any additional software. Requires carrier support -- 22 supported carriers when launched -- AT&T was not included."


wtf

[iphonewarrior]

I seriously cannot believe MMS will not be ready until this summer

FAIL!!!

Hope it's not like that for the UK :(

[acosmichippo]

I think MacRumors Live is best..no commentary. They just give the information as it is presented.

why limit to one?

http://img.skitch.com/20090608-gt7hqritcye8ix54bdhcf95i6j.png

[seanwes]

Not very happy so far

[iphonewarrior]

Macrumors:

HTML5 support as well -- Apple has been pushing the standard. Now, Languages -- even more languages (Hebrew, Arabic, Greek, Korean, Thai) -- users can easily switch between languages thanks to the software-based keyboard. All supported on both portrait and landscape keyboard layouts. Now talking about "Find My iPhone"

[iphonewarrior]

So far it's stuff we've already seen. Give us the new stuff... the things that we want to hear.

[iphonewarrior]

Special alerts...? WTF

[iphonewarrior]

Macrumors:


If your phone really is lost or stolen, you can send it a remote wipe command that will delete all of your data (mail, contacts, etc). If you do find the phone, it will be restored from a backup.


^ good feature. It would be bad if someone hacked you :)

[acosmichippo]

"This iPhone is lost. If you do not return it to me at [insert address here] i will hunt you down and kill you".

[iphonewarrior]

"This iPhone is lost. If you do not return it to me at [insert address here] i will hunt you down and kill you".

Too far. lol :laugh2:

[seanwes]

Peer-to-Peer support. iPhone can now "find" another iPhone nearby for games and such.

[iphonewarrior]

Macrumors:

Those are only a few of the 100+ features of iPhone OS 3.0. It is a great developer release too -- 100+ new APIs: in-app purchases (same business terms as app sales), Peer to Peer connectivity (easy multiplayer gaming -- Bluetooth, not Wifi), opening up support for hardware accessories that can talk to the software.

[evolution83]

A lot of these updates were in their last presentation of OS 3.0

Give us the new stuff already!

[Youngbinks]

"Tethering is a seamless experience -- once it's on, you don't have to run any additional software. Requires carrier support -- 22 supported carriers when launched -- AT&T was not included."


wtf

Between that and the, 22 carriers in 76 countries supporting MMS immediately at launch...but not AT&T is ridiculous.

[iphonewarrior]

Push- we've wanted this since the v1 iphone.

[iphonewarrior]

Macrumors:

Push notifications can include pop-up alerts, sounds, and App icon badges.

[hydro94530]

I swear to Lucifer they better announce the new phone!!

[iphonewarrior]

Medical apps? why why why!

NEW IPHONE NOW

[Youngbinks]

More to taunt and tease us with, of course.

[JWiPhone]

Medical apps? why why why!


In case you should have a heart attack waiting for them to reveal the new iPhone.

[iphonewarrior]

In case you should have a heart attack waiting for them to reveal the new iPhone.

lol.

Now there talking about books. OK

[LuvKeane]

this really sucks... I watched a 45 min video online a while ago when they showed what was to come for the 3.0 OS... and Im sure that like 99.99% of the people have seen it that are at the convention... WHO CARES!! ANNOUNCE THE PHONE JUST LIKE THE NEW LAPTOPS! If its all lies, then say so from the beginning!

[seanwes]

If the conference is only 2 hours, they only have half an hour to talk about new hardware if they start now.

[iphonewarrior]

Anyone getting bored?

[Youngbinks]

I'm really not feeling this "in-app purchase" thing after all. I have a feeling it's going to be taken advantage of pretty hard core.

[iNinja]

I dont think were going to see a release of new hardware!!?

[iphonewarrior]

The tom tom holder doesn't look to bad actually.

[iphonewarrior]

I dont think were going to see a release of new hardware!!?

Could it be anything to do with Jobs not being around ?

[JWiPhone]

I remember last year they waited till the end to bring out the iPhone 3G

[evolution83]

I bet if any announcements on a new phone are announced, it won't be until the very end of the show, along with OS 3.0 release date.

[iNinja]

I remember last year they waited till the end to bring out the iPhone 3G

Im crossing literally everything

[iphonewarrior]

Croucher i think you maybe right, this is quite saddening

All the apps we could discuss another time. What are apple upto?

All the revamps on there stores- it's probably just due to the new laptops etc...

Or is it....

[LuvKeane]

just what I need, to rent a car via Zipcar through my iPhone in Manhattan! Whoo hooo! And even if I was back home in LA, still useless! How about we get MMS NOW!

[iphonewarrior]

it is pretty useless. It would be cool to show off with... but thats pretty much it.

Zipcar... ?

[iNinja]

how long did they save for the 3g at the end last year...? Down to our last 20 mins now!

[Youngbinks]

I love all of the technical difficulties. How long did they have to prepare and practice for this?

[iphonewarrior]

To be fair, who cares about guitar tuning through your phone. This is ridiculous

[seanwes]

I love all of the technical difficulties. How long did they have to prepare and practice for this?

Not long enough. Only new hardware will save the conference.

[iNinja]

3.0 june 17th... so thats what that date was for... I hope they say something like "for this great software we need great new hardware" lol

[JWiPhone]

There will be a lot of pissed off people if they don't reveal the new iPhone today.

[iphonewarrior]

not looking good.

3.0 released the 17th. Thats the only good news so far.

[seanwes]

June 17th 3.0 is available.

[seanwes]

here it comes!!

[Youngbinks]

June 17th is great. I'm so glad we won't get MMS or Tethering until an undisclosed amount of time later.

[evolution83]

3.0 june 17th... so thats what that date was for... I hope they say something like "for this great software we need great new hardware" lol

Was June 17th mentioned before for something else or kept secret? Just glad it will be out in a 9 days.

[iNinja]

June 17th was on the posters for the event in the ical window

[iphonewarrior]

here it comes!!



Absolutely gutted. Not!

[hydro94530]

FInally!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[seanwes]

iPhone 3GS!

[iNinja]

Iphone 3gs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[iNinja]

Looks exactly the same???

[seanwes]

Launching messaging is 2.1x faster, loading SimCity is 2.4x faster, viewing Excel 3.6x faster, loading NY Times 2.9x faster.

[iNinja]

Its just a 3g but faster!? Im a little dissapointed :(

[Youngbinks]

Wow, same design and exterior, only differences on the inside. A bit weak.

[Indy]

3GyeS!!! :laugh2:

[iphonewarrior]

Looks exactly the same???

3mp auto focus camera sounds nice.

[seanwes]

http://cache.gizmodo.com/assets/wwdc2009/wwdc2009-769.jpghttp://cache.gizmodo.com/assets/wwdc2009/wwdc2009-771.jpghttp://cache.gizmodo.com/assets/wwdc2009/wwdc2009-757.jpg

[LuvKeane]

YES!!! HALLE*BEEPING* LLUJAH!!!

:laugh2::laugh2::laugh2:

I would have liked a matte/texture back though.. oh well, thats what cases are for

[hydro94530]

It better be 32gigs then or I'm passing.

[iNinja]

with such small hardware changes then i hope its available sooooon!!!!

[iphonewarrior]

I'm a little disappointed- not what we where thinking.

It would be nice if they gave us a few colours

[hydro94530]

Video part seems true at least.

[JWiPhone]

I like the looks..Glad they didn't change the original design of the iPhone :)

[iNinja]

The video screenshot was accurate!! nice work Indy

[hydro94530]

If they try to wait until July to release this with so few improvements, that would be weak :(

[LuvKeane]

is this going to be lighter? Thinner??? COLORS????!!!

[iNinja]

hmmm voice dialing...things are improving

[iNinja]

is this going to be lighter? Thinner??? COLORS????!!!

The phone will look the same as the 3g

[hydro94530]

Digital compass is in.

[LuvKeane]

Jason Chen from Gizmodo: “Wouldn’t it be great to dial friends and family just from the sound of your voice?” Yeah, you mean like in phones that have been out for years?

Yeah, my current phone seems to have had this for like 2 years!


EDIT: Nike+?????

[Saiko]

is this going to be lighter? Thinner??? COLORS????!!!

I pray to God it isn't lighter, the 3G already feels cheap IMO. Really bummed there isn't a matte backing, I was really looking forward to that.

[evolution83]

Well, it should be kinda expected. I mean, when the first iPhone came out it didn't have 3G and had tons of missing features. Then, the following year 3G came out with some added improvement. This time, it's 3G(S) again only with improved speed and some added features. Maybe next year an even better phone...blah.

[LuvKeane]

http://cache.gizmodo.com/assets/wwdc2009/wwdc2009-822.jpg


BOO!!! Black and white only but 16g and 32g... same price as the other ones

[Youngbinks]

No new colors.

iPhone 3GS
$199 for 16 GB
$299 for 32 GB

iPhone 3G
$99 for 8 GB

[JWiPhone]

WOOHOO June 19th!!!

[Indy]

I could cry. I'm a new iPhone owner on June 19th. :laugh2:

[iNinja]

I want price plans for the UK!!! come on o2!!!

[Saiko]

"The iPhone 3GS is available June 19th."

Who called it? Booyah!

Some little last minute speculation:

Macrumors has this picture of a WWDC banner up, and we can tell at least two things from it.

http://images.macrumors.com/article/2009/06/08/112339-grand_500.jpg

1) New quicktime icon (yaaaay!)

2) iCal date.

Apple has always put significance behind dates and times (9:42), and this should be no exception. the iCal icon lists the date as June 19th, a week from this friday.

I'd place a solid bet on the release of the next iPhone coming June 19th. The first one was also released on a friday.

[LuvKeane]

ok, so 11 days for me before I get an iPhone

[JWiPhone]

"The iPhone 3GS is available June 19th."

Who called it? Booyah!


Kudos Saiko LOL

[|3are]

Disappointed.

[JWiPhone]

I could cry. I'm a new iPhone owner on June 19th. :laugh2:

WooHoo! Indy..I'm pleased overall with this. I'm glad they didn't change the design of the iPhone. Now for June 19th to arrive..I have to make a new countdown in my Signature LOL

[seanwes]

Crap, I don't know how I'm gonna sell my iPhone 3G now with those prices. =(

[iNinja]

Can we (3g'ers) upgrade early? Whats the deal?!

[evolution83]

well this blows

nice that a new phone is coming out, but I'll be glad when 3.0 comes out. Until then I'll wait another year until I can upgrade. I'm pretty broke right now after buying a new car

[Youngbinks]

Crap, I don't know how I'm gonna sell my iPhone 3G now with those prices. =(

Well don't forget, those prices are with a new 2-year activation to qualified customers. There will still be a market for non-contracted iPhone sales.

[JWiPhone]

I thought for sure Steve Jobs would show up today. I guess one never can predict.

[|3are]

What is with Apple and not convincing iPhone owners to upgrade? My buddy who owns a v1 just said he's probably going to get a Pre.

[iNinja]

store is back up...

http://store.apple.com/uk/browse/home/shop_iphone/family/iphone?mco=MTE2OTU

[Saiko]

Overall, I'm happy with the updates. I think it's time for me to retire my version one and move on up. Little sad there wasn't a physical update, but the internal updates are incredible. 32GB space is the definite seller for me.

[LuvKeane]

glad there isn't much of an aesthetic change... otherwise Id be scared of getting jumped if i clearly show i own a the new iPhone in public... but I prefer the matte finish, just like on the BB Bold.


store is back up...

http://store.apple.com/uk/browse/home/shop_iphone/family/iphone?mco=MTE2OTU
Well, glad the ATT store is still outdated.
http://www.wireless.att.com/iphone/

[connie]

I thought for sure Steve Jobs would show up today. I guess one never can predict.

Me too, I thought for sure:gasp:

[JWiPhone]

glad there isn't much of an aesthetic change... otherwise Id be scared of getting jumped if i clearly show i own a the new iPhone in public... but I prefer the matte finish, just like on the BB Bold.



Personally, I'm glad they kept it as it is. I felt the matte finish made it look bulky or not as sleek. I guess we all have our own preferences though.

[iNinja]

I cant believe the prices you in the US have to pay....we get the 16gb free with a £40 month contract

[connie]

I was still kinda wishing for a mention of Verizon :(

[connie]

I cant believe the prices you in the US have to pay....we get the 16gb free with a £40 month contract

Oh yah, rub it in:tounge:

[JWiPhone]

I cant believe the prices you in the US have to pay....we get the 16gb free with a £40 month contract


£40 is about $63 US Dollars

[|3are]

AT&T is still failing. Right now though, for me, it's saying a 16GB Black 3G would cost me $349 with a new 2-year contract. If that's what I'll have to pay for a 32GB 3GS, not sure that's worth it.

[seanwes]

http://www.apple.com/iphone/

[billnye97]

It's tempting for me to get one. I got the other two on release days so I'll probably get the 3GS too. 32Gig and maybe I'll get it in black this time. I love the fact that Nike + is going to be built in. I run with it all the time and recently just started running with my iPhone so I would have my phone with me.

[iphonewarrior]

I cant believe the prices you in the US have to pay....we get the 16gb free with a £40 month contract

only if you take out a 2year contract.

I wish apple/o2 would declare some prices to us.

I tried ringing o2. It seems the end of the keynote worked nicely with o2. I'm going to phone them in the morning and order one instead. It would be much easier than standing in line.

I'm not impressed with this handset at all. Seriously. (i'll still get one though- just point me somewhere i can jailbreak it)

[LuvKeane]

now they updated it... too much of a time difference there! :2cool:

oops, thought that link was for the att store... still outdated

[iNinja]

only if you take out a 2year contract.

I wish apple/o2 would declare some prices to us.

I tried ringing o2. It seems the end of the keynote worked nicely with o2. I'm going to phone them in the morning and order one instead. It would be much easier than standing in line.

I'm not impressed with this handset at all. Seriously. (i'll still get one though- just point me somewhere i can jailbreak it)

I dont mind the internal workings, but i was hoping for a cosmetic change aswel. What do you think the price points will be? Im happy to sign a 2 year contract, at £40 a month, i think i should be able to get the 3gs 16gb for free? Or for £59 on an 18 month contract? what u think?

[JWiPhone]

AT&T is still failing. Right now though, for me, it's saying a 16GB Black 3G would cost me $349 with a new 2-year contract. If that's what I'll have to pay for a 32GB 3GS, not sure that's worth it.

Personally if I was in your shoes I wouldn't upgrade unless you feel you need video or are low on space. I would wait until 2010. Those of us who don't have an iPhone such as myself it is a no-brainer LOL..I'm stoked!

[Indy]

I wonder how long before we see actual 'specs' of this new s model.

[Youngbinks]

I wonder how long before we see actual 'specs' of this new s model.

Already on the Apple Page (http://www.apple.com/iphone/specs.html)

[|3are]

Personally if I was in your shoes I wouldn't upgrade unless you feel you need video or are low on space. I would wait until 2010. Those of us who don't have an iPhone such as myself it is a no-brainer LOL..I'm stoked!

I have to do something because the glass on my 3G is severely cracked. Either I swap it out for a refurbished one for who knows how much money (anywhere from $99 to $300?), or I get a 3GS. I'm spending money either way.

[seanwes]

I wonder how long before we see actual 'specs' of this new s model.

Specifically?

[GreatBape]

I have to admit I'm disappointed overall. Outside the phone being faster the other "new" iphone features are old 2+ year features on other phones. Outside the possible future apps that will involve the internal compass I can't justify buying the new iphone. Not to mention ATT not allowing tethering... and they awful overpriced att plans.

[iNinja]

I broke my 3g, so what would you suggest? Buy a 3g or the 3gs? I will be using my gf's contract as she is sue an upgrade, so it would probably be free for the 3g or £60 for a 3gs....3gs wins i think?

[iphonewarrior]

I dont mind the internal workings, but i was hoping for a cosmetic change aswel. What do you think the price points will be? Im happy to sign a 2 year contract, at £40 a month, i think i should be able to get the 3gs 16gb for free? Or for £59 on an 18 month contract? what u think?


I'm thinking it may be a little more than that. Considering the price of the (old) 3g- to get a 16gb cost £60 on an 18month contract at £40 a month.
Being that the 3GS is in 16/32gb then i think they will still charge. It will probably be free (16gb version) on a higher paid contract. The 32gb however i wouldn't like to comment. I think there going to over-charge for it. I'm shocked at how they haven't released prices for it yet- it isn't difficult, o2 have no doubt been in the loop with this so they should be ready and waiting. Its there custom so it's in there best interest.

o2 still have right to the iphone in the uk though...


I tried phoning o2 at 19:58 the person answered and put it down- must have been going home time. TW*T

[seanwes]

iPhone 3GS:
http://images.apple.com/iphone/images/sspecs_dimensions_20090608.jpg

iPhone 3G:
http://images.apple.com/iphone/images/specs_dimensions_20090608.jpg


Old cases will fit both.

[iphonewarrior]

Specifically?


Ignore this post. I'm an idiot- i totally copied the wrong specs...


:)

[iHuman]

You think AT&T will hold people to the 2 years exactly, because if they do, we all have a problem, because 1st generation iDay contracts were for June 29th, not June 19th

[iphonewarrior]

iPhone 3GS:
http://images.apple.com/iphone/images/sspecs_dimensions_20090608.jpg

iPhone 3G:
http://images.apple.com/iphone/images/specs_dimensions_20090608.jpg


Old cases will fit both.


I will be looking after mine when i get it. I would get another incase slider but i'm thinking of an element case backed up with an invsi-shield or something like that.

[iNinja]

I tried phoning o2 at 19:58 the person answered and put it down- must have been going home time. TW*T

I hate it when that happens... If i sign a new contract on my gf's account, im going to get a 16gb in White - i think it will be around £100 then? Arghhhh i hate not knowing!

[LuvKeane]

I really wish they would add the magically little flashing light to notify of any messages! I recall my ancient Nokia with the b/w screen and snake having this for text and vm

[iphonewarrior]

I hate it when that happens... If i sign a new contract on my gf's account, im going to get a 16gb in White - i think it will be around £100 then? Arghhhh i hate not knowing!


I think you've made a decent estimate there, i don't think it would be any higher, suppose anything cheaper than that then it's an added bonus.

I'm going to go for a white one this time. I've always had black ones. I'm tempted with the 32gb version. Would i ever fill it all up... probably :tounge:

I was hoping they'd release a few ipod style colours- i think the market would have liked that. I'm literally going to be ringing from 0750 onwards for an answer to all my questions. I've already got a peice of A4 paper full of questions. As soon as i find anything out i'll post and email :smile:

[JWiPhone]

I have to do something because the glass on my 3G is severely cracked. Either I swap it out for a refurbished one for who knows how much money (anywhere from $99 to $300?), or I get a 3GS. I'm spending money either way.

Well, in that case if it costs that much to repair I would probably go with a new iPhone then.

[roston100]

what date is it being released folks? just got in and cant see where it says!

[evolution83]

I really wish they would add the magically little flashing light to notify of any messages! I recall my ancient Nokia with the b/w screen and snake having this for text and vm

That would be a nice feature. Most phones seem to have that as well

[iphonewarrior]

I really wish they would add the magically little flashing light to notify of any messages! I recall my ancient Nokia with the b/w screen and snake having this for text and vm


I agree that would be a nice little addition. I could imagine apple's boffins

'no no no, we can't have that. It would consume far too much battery power, this device is all about performance' - idiots. I so wish they changed the back plate. The current case just attracts scratches, you could put it inside a cushioned case protected in a gas tight container and it would somehow still get scratched. Well... nevermind.

[Saiko]

So who else is camping out next thursday? LOL

[iNinja]

IPW... here is o2's twitter page... 3g'ers cant upgrade until they are due...

http://twitter.com/o2

[iphonewarrior]

what date is it being released folks? just got in and cant see where it says!


Not soon enough... 17th June for the 3.0 FW and the 19th (if i remember correctly) June for the handset itself

[dturner]

You think AT&T will hold people to the 2 years exactly, because if they do, we all have a problem, because 1st generation iDay contracts were for June 29th, not June 19th
I believe it is usually 18 mos. Go to your page on the ATT website and it will tell you when you are eligible for an upgrade.

[dturner]

what date is it being released folks? just got in and cant see where it says!
June 19........

[Saiko]

According to the online Apple store, you can pre-order the iPhone 3GS and have it delivered by the 19th.


iPhone 3G S
16GB1 in black or white — from $199
32GB1 in black or white — from $299
Pre-order now and get it June 19. Free shipping.


Source: http://store.apple.com/us/browse/home/shop_iphone/family/iphone?mco=MTE2OTU

[iphonewarrior]

IPW... here is o2's twitter page... 3g'ers cant upgrade until they are due...

http://twitter.com/o2
Thats absolute fu*king bullsh*t.

I am seriously not happy. This is stupid.

I'm going to prepare a nasty letter :angry:

[LuvKeane]

So who else is camping out next thursday? LOL I called the 24/7 store in Manhattan and a) the employees still have no clue and b) they told me it might be a problem with activation because I guess ATT doesnt open til 7 or something.

I wonder if these phones will have 3.0 and if the factories are working O.T. to get it installed and shipped.

[dturner]

According to the online Apple store, you can pre-order the iPhone 3GS and have it delivered by the 19th.



Source: http://store.apple.com/us/browse/home/shop_iphone/family/iphone?mco=MTE2OTU
The way it looks, they will only need one phone operator.:tounge:

[Indy]

I'm sorry, I should have been more specific. By 'specs' I meant internally as in processor speed and/or RAM. Its supposed to be faster right, lets see some numbers! ;)

[iphonewarrior]

I've been searching for specs since the event. I can't find anything solid as of yet.

I'm sure apple will post them on there site shortly.

[JWiPhone]

I'm sorry, I should have been more specific. By 'specs' I meant internally as in processor speed and/or RAM. Its supposed to be faster right, lets see some numbers! ;)

I see the iPhone 3GS tech spec page but I don't see anything mentioned in detail about processor speed or RAM. Are you going to order online at Apple today? I'm getting ready to do that right now.

[iHuman]

I believe it is usually 18 mos. Go to your page on the ATT website and it will tell you when you are eligible for an upgrade.

I did that, and it states 6/29/09 is end of contract, however, also states that I can resign for 2 years at this point.

[Saiko]

I see the iPhone 3GS tech spec page but I don't see anything mentioned in detail about processor speed or RAM. Are you going to order online at Apple today? I'm getting ready to do that right now.

From Gizmodo:


The device is faster, but of course, you can't tell how fast it really is until you a) install a bazillion apps on it b) and have it sitting in your pocket for awhile over a few months as the system degrades to the point where you have to restore it. I asked how much faster the processor and RAM situation were, but Apple said they don't like to focus on that part of the equation. They just refer to it as "magic". I was told there was 2x the magic, so I'm going to guess it has 2X the RAM.


EDIT: Taken from their hands on article: http://i.gizmodo.com/5283484/iphone-3gs-hands-on

[Napoleon_PhoneApart]

Crap, I don't know how I'm gonna sell my iPhone 3G now with those prices. =(

Unlock it?

[Napoleon_PhoneApart]

Overall, I'm happy with the updates. I think it's time for me to retire my version one and move on up. Little sad there wasn't a physical update, but the internal updates are incredible. 32GB space is the definite seller for me.

I think the speed improvement is really being overlooked here...

[Napoleon_PhoneApart]

I could cry. I'm a new iPhone owner on June 19th. :laugh2:

2010? <ducking>

[Napoleon_PhoneApart]

Personally, I'm glad they kept it as it is. I felt the matte finish made it look bulky or not as sleek. I guess we all have our own preferences though.

I hope Apple has improved the plastic back to prevent micro-cracking.

[Napoleon_PhoneApart]

AT&T is still failing. Right now though, for me, it's saying a 16GB Black 3G would cost me $349 with a new 2-year contract. If that's what I'll have to pay for a 32GB 3GS, not sure that's worth it.

Isn't that the refurbished price?

[JWiPhone]

I hope Apple has improved the plastic back to prevent micro-cracking.

Me too. Do you think it is worth getting the Apple Care Protection Plan? Ughhh..the iPhone Buy site is not working, too many people accessing it.

[bulls6pack]

Two questions:

1. Is it the same size as the 3G? So will the Invisishield and all cases made for the 3G fit the 3GS?

2. This ships on June 19th right? So correct me if Im wrong, but it will ship with 3.0, but all other existing iPhone owners have to wait till later in the summer for the 3.0 update?

[Napoleon_PhoneApart]

Two questions:

1. Is it the same size as the 3G? So will the Invisishield and all cases made for the 3G fit the 3GS?

2. This ships on June 19th right? So correct me if Im wrong, but it will ship with 3.0, but all other existing iPhone owners have to wait till later in the summer for the 3.0 update?

1. Yes

2. Yes. 3.0 firmware on Jun 17.

[Hondamaker]

Crap, I don't know how I'm gonna sell my iPhone 3G now with those prices. =(
Same here. I had planned on selling mine for around 100 bucks, but not now. Maybe if we jailbreak and unlock it, eh?

[dturner]

Same here. I had planned on selling mine for around 100 bucks, but not now. Maybe if we jailbreak and unlock it, eh?
That is probably the only way to get a good $$$ for it. The other thing anyone wanting to sell the 3G has is the fact that there is no contract. The $99 for ATT will of course have a 2yr contract.

[firewire]

Not upgrading here my friends. The features are so not worth it, especially because most of the good stuff will be a software update for all of us to enjoy. I am so disappointed. I am really curious to see how many of these they will sell, especially because IT LOOKS EXACTLY THE SAME. You cannot sell a product on just speed. If you have two Ferraris and their look is exactly the same but one is a bit slower than the other, why spend the cash and bother with the upgrade? I bet a lot of current 3g'ers won't bite on this sorry excuse of an upgrade. Talk about creative laziness.

Indy, I would seriously wait till 2010.

[JWiPhone]

Not upgrading here my friends. The features are so not worth it, especially because most of the good stuff will be a software update for all of us to enjoy. I am so disappointed. I am really curious to see how many of these they will sell, especially because IT LOOKS EXACTLY THE SAME. You cannot sell a product on just speed. If you have two Ferraris and their look is exactly the same but one is a bit slower than the other, why spend the cash and bother with the upgrade? I bet a lot of current 3g'ers won't bite on this sorry excuse of an upgrade. Talk about creative laziness.

Indy, I would seriously wait till 2010.

I can see waiting until 2010 for those who already have an iPhone but for those of us who do not have an iPhone I feel now is the time with iPhone 3GS.

[iphonewarrior]

I can see waiting until 2010 for those who already have an iPhone but for those of us who do not have an iPhone I feel now is the time with iPhone 3GS.


I do want one, but i feel more annoyed with apple. They've not really done anything amazing. I'm not taken aback by anything they've said. I'll probably still get one just to keep up with the times.

[dturner]

Not upgrading here my friends. The features are so not worth it, especially because most of the good stuff will be a software update for all of us to enjoy. I am so disappointed. I am really curious to see how many of these they will sell, especially because IT LOOKS EXACTLY THE SAME. You cannot sell a product on just speed. If you have two Ferraris and their look is exactly the same but one is a bit slower than the other, why spend the cash and bother with the upgrade? I bet a lot of current 3g'ers won't bite on this sorry excuse of an upgrade. Talk about creative laziness.

Indy, I would seriously wait till 2010.
I agree with everything you say except about Indy. He has waited long enough and deserves this phone. Although I will add that if I were in his shoes, I would consider the $99 3G. More bang for the buck IMO.
I can see waiting until 2010 for those who already have an iPhone but for those of us who do not have an iPhone I feel now is the time with iPhone 3GS.
Agree

[adnurahs]

Although I am disappointed there is no new hardware, the 32G is enough for me to upgrade. I am always taking things I want to stay on my iPhone off because of the space. So I will be upgrading. The better camera, and the faster speed are pluses too. I just feel like they failed in the hardware upgrade. They felt they didn't have to change the hardware, we'll see if this was a wise decision on their part. I hope this doesn't hurt them in any way. Nevertheless, I will be upgrading in July since I can according to AT&T. My husband said he's not going to upgrade.

[evolution83]

I'll most likely wait until 2010. Not much of a change to really go berserk over. I mean, I can still video record on a jailbroken phone. Apple is seriously slow in incorporating such basic features just about every phone now has as standard. The OS 3.0 update will hold me over just fine for now.

The 3GS is nice, but, not quite nice enough for me to shell out another couple hundred bucks for.

[Napoleon_PhoneApart]

It's fun to read this site's Pre forum and see how much they're downplaying the new iPhone announcement...

[iphonewarrior]

It's fun to read this site's Pre forum and see how much they're downplaying the new iPhone announcement...


Pre's looking quite good right now.

[JWiPhone]

If anyone cares to check out the new iPhone 3GS Guided Tour click here:

http://www.apple.com/iphone/guidedtour/

[seanwes]

Unlock it?

That's the problem. :( I'm on the 5.9 bootloader. Unless the dev-team comes out with a 3.0 unlock, I'm hosed.


And am I missing something, or did I read correctly that us iPhone 3G owners are going to have to pay $499?

[iphun]

That's the problem. :( I'm on the 5.9 bootloader. Unless the dev-team comes out with a 3.0 unlock, I'm hosed.


And am I missing something, or did I read correctly that us iPhone 3G owners are going to have to pay $499?

8GB $499 16GB $599 and 32GB $699 unless you use someone else's eligibility.

Actually those prices may benefit current 3G owners if we want to sell them at higher prices

[Hondamaker]

It's fun to read this site's Pre forum and see how much they're downplaying the new iPhone announcement...Cause deep down they know the 3GS is better in looks, features, available apps. They're too proud to admit they got on the wrong bus! :tounge:

[evolution83]

It's fun to read this site's Pre forum and see how much they're downplaying the new iPhone announcement...

Link? I couldn't find anything in regards to Pre downplaying the iPhone

[Napoleon_PhoneApart]

Although I am disappointed there is no new hardware, the 32G is enough for me to upgrade.

No new hardware?!

Faster processor.
Better camera.
256K RAM (probably)

There are three items right there!

[Napoleon_PhoneApart]

Link? I couldn't find anything in regards to Pre downplaying the iPhone

I don't have a specific link, but I saw it spread throughout the forum today.

[Napoleon_PhoneApart]

8GB $499 16GB $599 and 32GB $699 unless you use someone else's eligibility.

Actually those prices may benefit current 3G owners if we want to sell them at higher prices

I have a 3G and my new 32G 3GS will be $499.

[evolution83]

Question

Will the new OS 3.0 update allow current 3G owners to edit any videos they may have, even though it won't allow for video recording? Does this also mean G-Mail will finally have push notifications?

[dturner]

Question

Will the new OS 3.0 update allow current 3G owners to edit any videos they may have, even though it won't allow for video recording? Does this also mean G-Mail will finally have push notifications?
Probably no editing, but push=Yes.

[iphun]

Question

Will the new OS 3.0 update allow current 3G owners to edit any videos they may have, even though it won't allow for video recording? Does this also mean G-Mail will finally have push notifications?

Doubt it because they demoed that on the 3GS and the 3G can't save videos which you need to be able to edit. I don't have an option for G Mail push. Push notifications are different from push email though if that's what you are thinking.

[evolution83]

Doubt it because they demoed that on the 3GS and the 3G can't save videos which you need to be able to edit. I don't have an option for G Mail push. Push notifications are different from push email though if that's what you are thinking.

Oh I know they're different. Was hoping this whole G-Mail thing would be fixed by now.

[iphun]

Oh I know they're different. Was hoping this whole G-Mail thing would be fixed by now.

Ok some people think since they are both push they are the same :laugh2:. Maybe we will and I just need to set up my account again.

update: I just sent myself a video and there are no trimming or saving options.

[patrick_83]

"As a valued AT&T customer, we can offer you an iPhone upgrade with a new 2-year commitment and an $18 upgrade fee."


Does this mean i can upgrade to the newer version for $18?!?

[dturner]

"As a valued AT&T customer, we can offer you an iPhone upgrade with a new 2-year commitment and an $18 upgrade fee."


Does this mean i can upgrade to the newer version for $18?!?
$18 + the cost of the phone which depends on your eligibility.

[patrick_83]

thats what i was thinking too

[up10ad]

Yeah, for my phone it is $499 for the 32GB, for my wife's it is $299 for the 32GB. I think I'll upgrade hers and swap phones and numbers afterwards. Mine drops to $299 on July 13th. She can wait until then.

[Phxblue]

After all this excitement and glorious revealing, i gotta say one of the thing i am totally excited about is the "find me" feature. Looks like I may actually be able to justify to myself dropping 99 samolians on Mobileme.

[iphun]

After all this excitement and glorious revealing, i gotta say one of the thing i am totally excited about is the "find me" feature. Looks like I may actually be able to justify to myself dropping 99 samolians on Mobileme.

Me too :smile: I am very careful with my iphone, but would die if I lost it. I wish you didn't have to delete everything(I know you don't HAVE to) I wish as soon as you sent that message with a way to contact you it locked it until you connect it to your primary itunes. And make it so they can't restore it, turn it into a brick so they can't use it!!

[adnurahs]

No new hardware?!

Faster processor.
Better camera.
256K RAM (probably)

There are three items right there!

Hi Napoleon! You are correct. Those items are hardware but I wasn't referring to the internal. I meant the external. I was hoping for a case change. But this is cool. I'm getting the new phone. I just convinced my husband to get the new one too.

[Phxblue]

Hi Napoleon! You are correct. Those items are hardware but I wasn't referring to the internal. I meant the external. I was hoping for a case change. But this is cool. I'm getting the new phone. I just convinced my husband to get the new one too.

Good job you! I wish my wife even cared a wink about the iPhone, but alas she does not. :frown:

[Napoleon_PhoneApart]

Yeah, for my phone it is $499 for the 32GB, for my wife's it is $299 for the 32GB. I think I'll upgrade hers and swap phones and numbers afterwards. Mine drops to $299 on July 13th. She can wait until then.

Attaboy, Rick! Take those reins!

[connie]

Good job you! I wish my wife even cared a wink about the iPhone, but alas she does not. :frown:

We are the opposite, my husband can give a rats "booty" about the iphone, the obsession stops with me. He does like his ipod touch though.

[acosmichippo]

sorry if this has been asked already, but do we know anything about the 7.2Mbps 3GS service yet? Will it be priced differently than the normal 3G service?

[Napoleon_PhoneApart]

Hi Napoleon! You are correct. Those items are hardware but I wasn't referring to the internal. I meant the external. I was hoping for a case change. But this is cool. I'm getting the new phone. I just convinced my husband to get the new one too.

Now, does your husband love you for who you are inside or who you are outside?

[PDACPA]

I thought I read that AT&T would offer 3g owners the contract pricing if we signed a new 2 year contract. Since most would have completed 1 year of the 2year deal we signed last summer at the 3g launch, they would be getting a new 2 year starting now. Unless they need 2 full years to recover the subsidy ( which seems way too long considering the monthly fee and 3g prices increased with AT&T).

Update
I just checked AT&T, and it has no price break, but says check back on 7/17 for new upgrade pricing. I believe that is when I bought my 3g. So maybe a price break even though I will only be 1 year thru contract of the 3g.

[MrMike6by9]

The way I've heard it explained generally, at least 18 months for regular accounts to qualify for discount pricing but as early as 12 months IF your monthly tab is over $100 for the line to be upgraded.

YMMV

[PDACPA]

Well my bill is over $100, but that is because I have 3 phones ( 1 iPhone but plan to hand my 3g to my wife and get the 3gs for me).

[adnurahs]

Now, does your husband love you for who you are inside or who you are outside?

WOW! What a question. He loves me for who I am inside and who I am outside. It's a package deal. LOL!:laugh2:

[JWiPhone]

Here is a comparison of some specs between 3G and 3GS. Interesting about the water and oil resistant finish. I didn't hear that discussed yesterday.


http://www.***********.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/vs.jpg

[iphun]

Here is a comparison of some specs between 3G and 3GS. Interesting about the water and oil resistant finish. I didn't hear that discussed yesterday.

They didn't call it that, but did mention the fingerprint resistant screen which is probably what that is.

[Hondamaker]

"As a valued AT&T customer, we can offer you an iPhone upgrade with a new 2-year commitment and an $18 upgrade fee."


Does this mean i can upgrade to the newer version for $18?!?Yes, that what they told me when I called them yesterday.

[Hondamaker]

I thought I read that AT&T would offer 3g owners the contract pricing if we signed a new 2 year contract. Since most would have completed 1 year of the 2year deal we signed last summer at the 3g launch, they would be getting a new 2 year starting now. Unless they need 2 full years to recover the subsidy ( which seems way too long considering the monthly fee and 3g prices increased with AT&T).

Update
I just checked AT&T, and it has no price break, but says check back on 7/17 for new upgrade pricing. I believe that is when I bought my 3g. So maybe a price break even though I will only be 1 year thru contract of the 3g.Dude, I called them yesterday and they told me I'm eligible for the 199/299 pricing with an 18 dollar upgrade fee. I bought my 3g last July.

[iphun]

Dude, I called them yesterday and they told me I'm eligible for the 199/299 pricing with an 18 dollar upgrade fee. I bought my 3g last July.

What does it say for you online? I get you are only available for no commitment pricing which is wayyy too much. I will still get one at the cheaper price though, but getting it cheaper on my line would be easier.

[firewire]

I was under the impression that the current 3g will be able to see the speed improvements made to the current 3g network later this year and next year as well, so why does it list the old 3g as 3.6 mbps?

[iphun]

I was under the impression that the current 3g will be able to see the speed improvements made to the current 3g network later this year and next year as well, so why does it list the old 3g as 3.6 mbps?

It's the hardware that accesses the faster 3G that is only in the 3GS. If we could have it they would have given it to us.

[monkeysrock0622]

Not necessarily. We could have voice control or video with the 3G right now but they need to give us a reason to upgrade.

[firewire]

It's the hardware that accesses the faster 3G that is only in the 3GS. If we could have it they would have given it to us.
Was there not an article a few weeks ago talking about how the upgrades being done on the 3g network will benefit current 3g owners?

[up10ad]

Don't know about an article, but the upgrade does result in additional bandwidth to every broadcast point, making it more likely to get faster results even with 3G, up to it's limitation of just over 3MB.

[iphun]

Was there not an article a few weeks ago talking about how the upgrades being done on the 3g network will benefit current 3g owners?

I think I saw that too, but i don't remember exactly. Although I have also heard you need different hardware for the 7.2Mbps+ 3G. If we get a better processor in the new iphone you will see pages load faster from that alone. I have tethered to my computer and pages load faster than on the iphone. And like monkeysrock said it is could just be to get you to upgrade to the 3GS if you want to faster 3G.

[Ms Cola]

You are more than welcome!

[psylichon]

Don't know about an article, but the upgrade does result in additional bandwidth to every broadcast point, making it more likely to get faster results even with 3G, up to it's limitation of just over 3MB.

That is a very interesting point. Current 3G iPhones should see a speed boost of some sort...

[Phxblue]

That is a very interesting point. Current 3G iPhones should see a speed boost of some sort...

I'd hope so because the 3G I had seemed to sit around the 1.2 to 1.8mbps range. if you start hitting upper 2's and 3's on the 3G that would be a seemingly huge increase in speed.

[JWiPhone]

They didn't call it that, but did mention the fingerprint resistant screen which is probably what that is.

I wonder if the 'water and oil resistant finish' is not only the screen but the entire iPhone casing?

[iphun]

I wonder if the 'water and oil resistant finish' is not only the screen but the entire iPhone casing?

During the presentation they said the screen but it would nice to have it on the entire phone.

[JWiPhone]

iPhone 3GS has 600 mhz chip and oleophobic coating

http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/09/06/10/apples_iphone_3g_s_sports_600mhz_chip_oleophobic_c oating.html

[iphun]

iPhone 3GS has 600 mhz chip and oleophobic coating

http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/09/06/10/apples_iphone_3g_s_sports_600mhz_chip_oleophobic_c oating.html

We kind of guessed the ram and processor upgrades, but to get confirmation before the phone is even released is nice.

And I was right that it is only on the screen. In the pictures you can tell the screen doesn't look as shiny as the current 3G. I like my non glare screen protector and I bet I will still want it since the coating still won't be enough I bet.

[JWiPhone]

We kind of guessed the ram and processor upgrades, but to get confirmation before the phone is even released is nice.

And I was right that it is only on the screen. In the pictures you can tell the screen doesn't look as shiny as the current 3G. I like my non glare screen protector and I bet I will still want it since the coating still won't be enough I bet.


Nice to be able to just wipe the screen. You won't need any liquids or damp cloth. Yes, you are right. Screens still need that extra protection from scratches.

[JWiPhone]

Here are a few more specs released:

According to the guys over at AnandTech (http://www.anandtech.com/gadgets/showdoc.aspx?i=3579), the iPhone 3GS uses a 32-bit ARM Cortex A8 RISC processor which is the same processor that is used in the Palm Pre (http://www.geeky-gadgets.com/palm-pre-specifications-revealed/).

The 3GS also features an improved graphics processor in the form of a PowerVR SGX 520, we wont know until the launch of the 3GS what the exact specifications are, and what other components have been upgraded over the 3G.

[iphun]

Nice to be able to just wipe the screen. You won't need any liquids or damp cloth. Yes, you are right. Screens still need that extra protection from scratches.

Surprisingly the iphone screen resists scratches so much better than any other phone because of the high quality glass. I still prefer to use an anti glare screen which resists fingerprints 99.9% of the time and it helps when in the sun so you can see the screen. I also like the way when playing games or scrolling with the anti glare where your finger doesn't get slowed down from the oils and whatnot.

[JWiPhone]

Great news here, 3GS visuals to surpass PSP
One of the reasons I decided to go with the iPhone. I love gaming.

http://www.videogamer.com/news/iphone_3g_s_visuals_to_surpass_psps.html

[Indy]

Only have a quick second to post this so sorry if its a repeat. iPhone 3GS specs confirmed. 600mhz 256GB RAM and new graphics chip. http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/10/iphone-3g-s-processor-specs-600mhz-cpu-256mb-of-ram/

[JWiPhone]

Only have a quick second to post this so sorry if its a repeat. iPhone 3GS specs confirmed. 600mhz 256GB RAM and new graphics chip. http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/10/iphone-3g-s-processor-specs-600mhz-cpu-256mb-of-ram/

Isn't it great Indy? The news about the new 3GS keeps getting better. :laugh2:

[JWiPhone]

Matte Casing was real according to this article

http://www.product-reviews.net/2009/06/10/new-iphone-3g-s-news-matte-case-was-real/

[iphun]

I now wonder what those 'Project Charlies' were in the best buy system

[iphun]

Matte Casing was real according to this article

http://www.product-reviews.net/2009/06/10/new-iphone-3g-s-news-matte-case-was-real/

Why in the world would they change it by the 19th after they just announced it having the same casing.

It is not certain if Apple changed its plans, but then again they could still make it on to the new iPhone. We will all find out on June 19.

[JWiPhone]

Why in the world would they change it by the 19th after they just announced it having the same casing.

I highly doubt Apple will change it. That is uncharacteristic of Apple. A matte backing would have been a major cosmetic change they would have promoted at the Keynote. This is just speculation on the part of the article's author. It is interesting though as to why Apple may have changed their minds and stayed with the original case.

[psylichon]

Yeah, it's more likely they just tried out several case ideas, but decided to keep it the same in the end for whatever reason (economics? excess stock?)

[iphun]

I highly doubt Apple will change it. That is uncharacteristic of Apple. A matte backing would have been a major cosmetic change they would have promoted at the Keynote. This is just speculation on the part of the article's author.

I know they won't change it. No offense to the author, but you'd think they would have a little more common sense about apple. It was shown at WWDC and I think they want to keep the same back since they are keeping the 8GB 3G. They want all of the phones they carry too look the same.

[kevlar08]

There is even a comercial already focusing on how it looks the same

[iphun]

There is even a comercial already focusing on how it looks the same

Yeah they showed it off at the presentation, so it is widely know there are no changes to the look.

[Indy]

As uncharacteristic of Apple as this looks remember when the original iPhone was announced in January of 07 then a couple of months later it was revealed that there would be a 'glass' touchscreen rather than a 'plastic' one? Correct me if I'm wrong please.

[iphun]

As uncharacteristic of Apple as this looks remember when the original iPhone was announced in January of 07 then a couple of months later it was revealed that there would be a 'glass' touchscreen rather than a 'plastic' one? Correct me if I'm wrong please.

I don't remember seeing that, but that doesn't mean you are wrong. If that is true that they changed it from a plastic to glass screen, that was months and was before they even announced the phone. The 3GS has been announced and already has an ad all based around it looking the same, but being faster and better. Plus they are already probably ready to pack and ship them, so it's a little late to tear off glossy cases for the matte one. I know a lot of people wanted that one and whoever wrote that gave you false hope. Hey I would have liked the matte one, but I like the glossy one too.

[JWiPhone]

It is all just a personal preference. I personally like the plastic case the way it is. I think it looks more sleek. I will have it in a case to protect it anyway. If they went with the matte case it may not have been compatible with the 3G cases on the market and people upgrading their phones would have to buy new cases all over again.

[iphun]

It is all just a personal preference. I personally like the plastic case the way it is. I think it looks more sleek. I will have it in a case to protect it anyway. If they went with the matte case it may not have been compatible with the 3G cases on the market and people upgrading their phones would have to buy new cases all over again.

Personally I like the glossy case just fine and I am glad that when I upgrade to the 3GS I will be able to use my protective case without having to buy another one. And I agree it looks more sleek, so I am glad they kept it.

[monkeysrock0622]

As uncharacteristic of Apple as this looks remember when the original iPhone was announced in January of 07 then a couple of months later it was revealed that there would be a 'glass' touchscreen rather than a 'plastic' one? Correct me if I'm wrong please.
Yah I remember that happening too. Im glad they did it that way though instead of waiting to do it with the 3G

[JWiPhone]

A look 'under the hood' at the iPhone 3GS as it relates to graphics

On the graphics processor front, things get even better. As previously mentioned, the iPhone and iPhone 3G feature a PowerVR MBX-lite GPU. It's on a 90nm process and runs at ~60MHz, capable of rendering 1 million triangles per second and 100 million pixels per second. The new iPhone's PowerVR SGX is on a 65nm process and is believed to run at either 100MHz or 200MHz. The SGX in a 100MHz configuration is capable of rendering 3.5 million triangles per second and 125 million pixels per second. That's 3.5x the geometry throughput and 25% more pixel bandwidth than the original iPhone. In a 200MHz configuration, it is capable of throwing out 7x the triangles and 150% more pixels per second than the original iPhone.

Full article here with details:

http://toucharcade.com/2009/06/10/iphone-3g-s-a-look-under-the-hood/


This gets into even more detail about the CPU and GPU chipsets between the iPhone 3G and iPhone 3GS.

http://www.anandtech.com/gadgets/showdoc.aspx?i=3579&p=3

[psylichon]

Another look at the new 3.0 feature set relative to the whole product line:

http://www.tuaw.com/2009/06/11/iphone-3g-s-in-depth-why-the-s-means-more-than-speed/