NextGeniPhone: Predictions on New Hardware & Release Dates.

[i robot]

Haha thanks, on last nights game we should be able to beat them both. You should have beat Chelsea

We should have beat loads of teams the difference is that Manu keep beating more teams.

Sorry off topic guys, bloody foootball

At least we're united in the iPhone would. So when the seasons over hopefully we will have a new iPhone to occupy us

[Indy]

AT&T to cut plan pricing alongside new iPhone launch? http://www.macdailynews.com/index.php/weblog/comments/rumor_atampt_considering_10_cut_for_apple_iphone_m onthly_service_plan/

[JWiPhone]

AT&T to cut plan pricing alongside new iPhone launch? http://www.macdailynews.com/index.php/weblog/comments/rumor_atampt_considering_10_cut_for_apple_iphone_m onthly_service_plan/

Please! Please! Depending on what the entry level pricing plan gives the user, that would be a nice bonus to owning the new iPhone. This story is also making the rounds on other iPhone sites such as MacRumors and TAUW.

[JWiPhone]

We should have beat loads of teams the difference is that Manu keep beating more teams.

Sorry off topic guys, bloody foootball

At least we're united in the iPhone would. So when the seasons over hopefully we will have a new iPhone to occupy us


You guys don't happen to belong to any 'firm' do you? LOL If you do, you might consider purchasing a heavy duty Otterbox case for your new iPhone LOL

[gogoplata1980]

AT&T to cut plan pricing alongside new iPhone launch? http://www.macdailynews.com/index.php/weblog/comments/rumor_atampt_considering_10_cut_for_apple_iphone_m onthly_service_plan/

Thanks, Indy! That would be great if it turns out to be true. I want an iPhone regardless, however, this is an added bonus.

[Indy]

Magnetometer in next iPhone confirmed?

http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2009/05/07/magnetometer-in-next-iphone-confirmed/

http://www.boygeniusreport.com/wp-content/uploads/iphonemagnetometer.jpg

http://www.boygeniusreport.com/wp-content/uploads/iphonemagnetometer2.jpg

So it will do my dishes too?! (kitchen sink) Cool! :laugh2:

[JWiPhone]

Can we say 'augmented reality'? :laugh2:

[monkeysrock0622]

Magnetometer in next iPhone confirmed?

http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2009/05/07/magnetometer-in-next-iphone-confirmed/

http://www.boygeniusreport.com/wp-content/uploads/iphonemagnetometer.jpg

http://www.boygeniusreport.com/wp-content/uploads/iphonemagnetometer2.jpg

So it will do my dishes too?! (kitchen sink) Cool! :laugh2:
Haha what does that mean? Maybe this is just a photoshop...

[Napoleon_PhoneApart]

Magnetometer in next iPhone confirmed?

http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2009/05/07/magnetometer-in-next-iphone-confirmed/

http://www.boygeniusreport.com/wp-content/uploads/iphonemagnetometer.jpg

http://www.boygeniusreport.com/wp-content/uploads/iphonemagnetometer2.jpg

So it will do my dishes too?! (kitchen sink) Cool! :laugh2:

Dump Log?

That's what I'm about to do! :laugh2:

[Indy]

http://www.9to5mac.com/google-street-view-compass-iphone

[Hondamaker]

Dump Log?

That's what I'm about to do! :laugh2:LMFAO.....:tounge:

[JWiPhone]

The introduction to the new iPhone is now officially 30 days away, on June 8th, 2009. :)

[Indy]

Its so close JW! I remember a few months back wondering if I could actually hold out that much longer. The wait is nearly over after waiting almost 2 years! My wife's poor phone is literally falling apart and won't hold a charge for but a few hours, what a trooper she's been. She will be very happy as well when we finally switch carriers and she gets a new phone. :D

[psylichon]

Is she getting an iPhone, too?

[JWiPhone]

Its so close JW! I remember a few months back wondering if I could actually hold out that much longer. The wait is nearly over after waiting almost 2 years! My wife's poor phone is literally falling apart and won't hold a charge for but a few hours, what a trooper she's been. She will be very happy as well when we finally switch carriers and she gets a new phone. :D

I remember not long ago when it was over 70 days until the big WWDC event. When June 7th rolls around I will be like a child on Christmas Eve. I want this iPhone so bad I can taste it. :tounge: Will you also be getting an iPhone for yourself or is she getting a different phone and you the iPhone? Anyway, I know the both of you will be thrilled beyond belief. I also have been waiting two years, and just have about a three year old Samsung phone that can't even compare to a Sidekick. This will be a quantum leap for me. I eat, sleep, drink, and inhale the iPhone right now. I must have OCD. :tounge:

[Indy]

@ Psylichon. We discussed the possibilities of her getting an iPhone last night. If there is an entry level model this time around (8gb3G?) then she might get one to. She's already said she might want a smartphone this time around and we figured if your gonna spend around 100 bucks anyways then, ya know, might as well get one if its that cheap.

[Indy]

@JW. The only downside is that we will probably be waiting a whole month again after WWDC for anything to be actually released. But like you, the 7th will be a long night of tossing and turning trying to sleep for whatever news the next day. I considered calling into work, but figured I'd save that sick day for camping out a new phone. :D

[acosmichippo]

@ Psylichon. We discussed the possibilities of her getting an iPhone last night. If there is an entry level model this time around (8gb3G?) then she might get one to. She's already said she might want a smartphone this time around and we figured if your gonna spend around 100 bucks anyways then, ya know, might as well get one if its that cheap.

Around this time last year I seem to recall a shortage of V1s to make sure the stock was cleared for the 3g launch. I haven't heard anything like that going on this year for the 3g, so maybe they are planning on keeping it around.

[iphun]

Around this time last year I seem to recall a shortage of V1s to make sure the stock was cleared for the 3g launch. I haven't heard anything like that going on this year for the 3g, so maybe they are planning on keeping it around.

According to what psylichons predictions were, even though they just are predictions, point to them keeping the models they sell currently at lower prices, but adding HD versions as the higher end models.

[JWiPhone]

@JW. The only downside is that we will probably be waiting a whole month again after WWDC for anything to be actually released. But like you, the 7th will be a long night of tossing and turning trying to sleep for whatever news the next day. I considered calling into work, but figured I'd save that sick day for camping out a new phone. :D

That is very true Indy. At least we will know what the new iPhone is all about and can start preparing for the purchase. Once I know the specifications I can order accessories such as case, external battery, etc., unless the size and design changes. If dimensions are the same as the 3G then I won't have to wait for new cases. By the way, I see you are almost at 3000 posts. Congrats!

[dan@thedigitalsc.com]

Is anyone in here wanting to test the new OS 3.0 Beta 5 Firmware for the iPhone?
If Yes, then you're UDID needs to be registered, send me an email.
dan@thedigitalsc.com
Have a few slots available for OS 3.0 Beta 5 registration.
You’re UDID will be registered within 1 hour if you contact me between 11am - 11pm Pacific Time.

I would require Feedback from every user who is registered on what they think about the Firmware as this helps us report bugs.

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[Hondamaker]

Is anyone in here wanting to try the new OS 3.0 Beta 5 Firmware for the iPhone?
If Yes, then you're UDID needs to be registered, send me an email.
dan@thedigitalsc.com
Have a few slots available for OS 3.0 Beta 5 registration and I charge $10.
You’re UDID will be registered within 1 hour if you contact me between 11am - 11pm Pacific Time.
Hmmmm, 10 bucks, and we all got it for free. Not a good deal. :tounge:

[dan@thedigitalsc.com]

Hmmmm, 10 bucks, and we all got it for free. Not a good deal. :tounge:
You are the few lucky ones then ! :-)

[up10ad]

You are the few lucky ones then ! :-)
Lucky ones? Not really, we are just a good group of folks that don't try and take advantage of each other. And Dan, offering slots for a fee is prohibited here.

[dan@thedigitalsc.com]

Lucky ones? Not really, we are just a good group of folks that don't try and take advantage of each other. And Dan, offering slots for a fee is prohibited here.
I am absolutely not taking advantage of other member's. And i apologize if i made you feel that way.
I am a genuine App Developer and simply charging a small fee for the activating other member's who want to test the Beta 5 Firmware. And also to cover a little of the investment that i have put into the development of App's and my account. I also do provide step by step instructions and provide direct download links which are hosted by me and not by any torrent's.
Again, i apologize as i am not trying to make any enemy's here simply offering help and charging a fee which goes back into the Tech community as I am on numerous forums offering tips and my help to community members.. FOR FREE.

[Napoleon_PhoneApart]

Lucky ones? Not really, we are just a good group of folks that don't try and take advantage of each other. And Dan, offering slots for a fee is prohibited here.

Well, I did pay $5 for my slot, but I was assured that the entire amount would go to a good charity: Suckers Anonymous.

[dan@thedigitalsc.com]

Well, I did pay $5 for my slot, but I was assured that the entire amount would go to a good charity: Suckers Anonymous.
There you go.. Thanks Napoleon_PhoneApart (http://www.everythingicafe.com/forum/members/napoleon_phoneapart.html) !
But I don't claim that i will donate the amount to charity.I am being totally honest about how i would use the amount I collect and it's simply going back into helping the Tech Community on various blogs and forums.
I can assure everyone here that I am not doing this as a business !

[JWiPhone]

Psylichon predicted this back on 12-08-08. So far he is dead-on, especially with the cut and paste, and MMS support. Although not available in June but it will be introduced in June. I think he is psychic. It will be interesting to see how accurate the other predictions are. LOL

My predictions:

1. Faster processor. Something that can multitask.

2. Better battery. This happens with every generation pretty much.

3. Thinner frame. Back to a metal design. I see them looking like the new iPod touch only with a dark grey metal (think hematite) or maybe back to aluminum.

4. Better camera. Much better. I would guess 5MP with high-quality video support. Maybe a flash, but real optical autofocus is going to be hard in a case as thin as the iPhone.

5. Larger memory sizes. I think 16GB will be the new baseline, with 32 and perhaps 64 gig models available. Maybe they'll keep the 8 around for Walmart ;)

available next June, along with cut-and-paste and MMS support for ALL iPhones.

[psylichon]

Hehe, I'm honored... but I'm just guesstimating like everyone else, based on the current rumor mill and Apple's history.

Though I do think I nailed it this time :D

[Napoleon_PhoneApart]

Though I do think I nailed it this time :D

Even a blind squirrel...:laugh2:

[Indy]

The Chinese know something!!!

http://www.macrumors.com/2009/05/11/chinese-forum-poster-claims-next-generation-iphone-details/

http://images.macrumors.com/article/2009/05/11/214239-chinese.jpeg

"The image above was uploaded and seems to depict a new iPhone model number "MB717LL" with 32GB of Storage. If the original poster's claims are to be believed, the new iPhone will contain the following features:

- 600MHz CPU Speed (up from 400MHz)
- 256MB RAM (up from 128MB)
- Digital Compass and FM
- 3.2 megapixel camera with auto focus
- 32GB size
- No major changes in battery, screen and external casing."

Looks great to me! :laugh2:

[Indy]

- No major changes in battery, screen and external casing.

So...no "major" changes. That doesn't neccesarily mean "no" changes right? :tounge:

[gogoplata1980]

The Chinese know something!!!

http://www.macrumors.com/2009/05/11/chinese-forum-poster-claims-next-generation-iphone-details/

http://images.macrumors.com/article/2009/05/11/214239-chinese.jpeg

"The image above was uploaded and seems to depict a new iPhone model number "MB717LL" with 32GB of Storage. If the original poster's claims are to be believed, the new iPhone will contain the following features:

- 600MHz CPU Speed (up from 400MHz)
- 256MB RAM (up from 128MB)
- Digital Compass and FM
- 3.2 megapixel camera with auto focus
- 32GB size
- No major changes in battery, screen and external casing."

Looks great to me! :laugh2:

Thanks, Indy! I'd give you a thank you if I knew how! This gives me a little more to hold on to since I was beginning to get anxious and was fixing to go ahead and get a 3g since the wait is killing me! :laugh2:

[Indy]

Don't do it gogo! Wait it out, you'l be happy you did, I assure you. ;)

[JWiPhone]

I doubt we will see anything 'earth shattering' in this new iPhone, such as OLED screen, multi-core processors, 8 megapixel cameras etc. It will still be a significant change. I think we can count on a faster processor, more memory, more storage, upgraded battery, video recording, faster download speed, and a cheaper AT&T plan. I'm sure there will be those who will expect more, and will be let down. I already hear people clamoring for a new case design. I strongly disagree. Apple can't possibly please everyone. I just want to get my hands on a new iPhone. There will always be more changes in the years to come. That is one of the great things about competition; it will keep Apple reaching higher and coming out with more innovations.

[Indy]

I think we can count on a faster processor, more memory, more storage, upgraded battery, video recording, faster download speed, and a cheaper AT&T plan.

I really couldn't (at this point) realistically ask for anything more! It's just going to continue to improve and get better every year and I love it!

When I get this version in June/July, by the time I'm ready to upgrade in a couple more years, AT&T will have really started pushing into LTE (hopefully 2011) and all these new chip designers and hardware engineers will have had time to really dig in and come up with something "earth-shattering".

I think I will permanently be a Apple iPhone Addict for the rest of my life! Scary stuff! :tounge:

[JWiPhone]

I think I will permanently be a Apple iPhone Addict for the rest of my life! Scary stuff! :tounge:

I think I'm already there with you Indy, :tounge: and I've always been a PC person, but Apple has always been an innovator.

[Phxblue]

One rumor mention I saw said theres a slightly bigger camera hole in the casing for a "slightly larger camera of the 3.2mp variant with a real lens". Thats good news because pic quality rests in the optics not the mp rating.

[Phxblue]

Here's a morsel to chew on courtesy of http://www.chinaontrade.com/apple-iphone-3gen-2009-lcd-screen-original-p-269.html......

ANOTHER RUMOR PHOTO GRAIN OF SALT POSTING

{note.. the screen looks yellow due to a protective film on it.}

http://www.chinaontrade.com/images/269/apple-iphone-4g-2009-lcd-screen-original.jpg

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[iphun]

From the same website (http://www.chinaontrade.com/iphone-4g-spare-parts-c-69.html) that Phxblue found those screens, and to go with that larger looking 3rd gen 2009 screen, they are also selling the bezel which if you look at the top of the first pic the ear piece for calls is pushed all the way to the top of the case and is part of the bezel.

http://www.chinaontrade.com/images/IMG_3909.jpg

http://www.chinaontrade.com/images/IMG_3912.jpg

I like the looks of them though cause this would mean a bigger (possibly HD) screen. And to go with Indy's post (http://www.everythingicafe.com/forum/future-iphones/nextgeniphone-predictions-on-new-hardware-and-release-dates-40204-74.html#post443775) from someone who was employed by apple, the chrome bezel is gone.

[adnurahs]

WOW! This is good to see! Thanx for posting this. I just hope the size and shape of the new iphone is the same as the current iphone. I can't tell from the pictures.

It appears, as you have shown, that the screen is bigger, that is a defintely plus! We are going to have a monster on our hands!! WOW! I can't wait. This is really something to look forward to.

I would like to use all my current Incase Slider cases, but if I have to buy an army of new ones i guess that's what i gotta do!

I've got to get this insurance already, cause this is going to be a bigger theif magnet then ever!

[Indy]

I'm slightly confused, in part because I'm viewing these shots on a 2" screen. Are these pics showing a larger screen?

[gogoplata1980]

Don't do it gogo! Wait it out, you'l be happy you did, I assure you. ;)

Oh, I trust you!:laugh2:
After these pictures my desire to wait is confirmed. This thing can't come out soon enough!

[Indy]

Samsung shipping single-chip 32GB flash. http://www.electronista.com/articles/09/05/12/samsung.32gb.movinand.ship/ I hear that rumor mill crankin up again baby! :D

[adnurahs]

Oh, I trust you!:laugh2:
After these pictures my desire to wait is confirmed. This thing can't come out soon enough!

Ditto!! :laugh2: It can't come out soon enough!! I can't wait! I am so excited!! This is awesome!!

[Napoleon_PhoneApart]

This is all still conjecture, though it would be nice if it turns out to be true.

[JWiPhone]

Another article from Ars Technica about the new iPhone rumors that have already been discussed here.

http://arstechnica.com/apple/news/2009/05/rumor-new-iphone-hardware-to-be-a-minor-upgrade.ars

[JWiPhone]

For those of you planning on buying the next generation iPhone, what accessories do you plan on purchasing? Since this will be my first iPhone I plan on purchasing:



RichardSolo battery backup
Incase Silder
Screen Protector
Holster for belt (I don't like carrying my iPhone in my pocket)

[Chex]

For the new one I'll need a new iskin and belt holster
Still have few screen protectors.

[psylichon]

I'm slightly confused, in part because I'm viewing these shots on a 2" screen. Are these pics showing a larger screen?

Yeah, I'm not getting squat from those shots either. It's impossible to tell from the angle how offset the underneath screen is... they look basically the same size if you see it that way.

And the "casing" looks like just the bezel... like the part that holds the top and bottom halves together. It fits the other rumors of the chrome being gone, but I don't think that it indicates in any way what size screen is going in there.

[Indy]

For those of you planning on buying the next generation iPhone, what accessories do you plan on purchasing? Since this will be my first iPhone I plan on purchasing:



RichardSolo battery backup
Incase Silder
Screen Protector
Holster for belt (I don't like carrying my iPhone in my pocket)



A case. Maybe something simple to start with like an Incase Slider but then maybe save up for an Otterbox for work and then maybe one of those nice wooden ones for casual out-and-abouts. Gotta have a belt clip.
Screen Protector.
Maybe look into external batteries if I'm completely unsatisfied with battery performance.
Car charger.
...can't think of anything else at the moment. I've already got a LowPro compact digi camera case that I plan on using if I don't go the otterbox route. I work outside so dust and the elements are always in play. Nothing will touch my precious.:tounge:

http://www.7dayshop.com/catalog/images/products/prod_103860.jpg

[Phxblue]

Maybe just a grippy case depending what kinda material they use to build it.

[Indy]

Apple selling iPhones online, free shipping, clearing that inventory. http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/09/05/13/apple_now_selling_iphones_online_in_bid_to_clear_i nventory.html

[Indy]

Will we see another event after WWDC with Steve Jobs revealing new iPhone hardware? http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/09/05/13/steve_jobs_seen_returning_post_wwdc_brandishing_ne w_iphones.html I doubt it. And if they did, they would atleast have to announce the event and purpose at WWDC, they know everyone is anticipating something at WWDC.

[Indy]

Will we see another event after WWDC with Steve Jobs revealing new iPhone hardware? http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/09/05/13/steve_jobs_seen_returning_post_wwdc_brandishing_ne w_iphones.html I doubt it. And if they did, they would atleast have to announce the event and purpose at WWDC, they know everyone is anticipating something at WWDC. Can you imagine the chaos if nothing new is announced and then 3 weeks later an unannounced event with new iPhones and SJ?

[gogoplata1980]

I was looking at an article at The iPhone Blog earlier and I kinda started worrying if a new iPhone was actually coming out. Here's the link: http://www.theiphoneblog.com/2009/05/13/analyst-rumormongering-iphone-wwdc-iphone-family-special-summer-event/
I realize that this doesn't mean a new iPhone isn't coming out but I worry nonetheless. I'm almost at my breaking point, I'm fixing to get a 3g. :(

[Indy]

I was looking at an article at The iPhone Blog earlier and I kinda started worrying if a new iPhone was actually coming out. Here's the link: http://www.theiphoneblog.com/2009/05/13/analyst-rumormongering-iphone-wwdc-iphone-family-special-summer-event/
I realize that this doesn't mean a new iPhone isn't coming out but I worry nonetheless. I'm almost at my breaking point, I'm fixing to get a 3g. :(

Analyst, Shmanalyst...I've learned over the years to take some of these guys grand ideas with a grain of salt. Hell, in a way, any one of us can make a site or blog and come up with all these ideas of why we think this or that is gonna happen or why it wouldn't. Basically I'm calling myself an analyst because I have an opinion. lol.

But seriously some of these guys really DO, do their homework and every once in a while get lucky and things end up coming together or falling apart just as they predicted.

Like I said before, WWDC is 26 days away, Apple I'm quite sure is aware that everyone (in the know with Apple product timelines) suspects new hardware of "some sort" be it just a very slight update, so I suspect we will see new hardware announced on that day or at least an announcement that a special iPhone/Stevo event is planned for the end of the month of June. There I go analyzing again!!! Watch out!

And gogoplata, if you buy a 3g now, I will make a point to call you from my new iPhone to your 3g and laugh MAO. :tounge: I've waited 2+ years, you can make it a month or 2, Waaaaaaaait.

[gogoplata1980]

And gogoplata, if you buy a 3g now, I will make a point to call you from my new iPhone to your 3g and laugh MAO. :tounge: I've waited 2+ years, you can make it a month or 2, Waaaaaaaait.

Man, that's cold blooded!:embarrassed:
You don't understand, every force close I encounter on an app on my G1 makes me desire the iPhone that much more! :frown:
Don't flaunt your scary good patience! :wink:

[Indy]

So in a couple of months when we both have brand new current gen 3G's you can make fun of me for waiting. I can take it. Just hang in there with me man! We can get through this together!

[Napoleon_PhoneApart]

Agreed. Strength in numbers.

[gogoplata1980]

So in a couple of months when we both have brand new current gen 3G's you can make fun of me for waiting. I can take it. Just hang in there with me man! We can get through this together!

Haha, well it's the fact that you're making so much sense that I keep hanging in there that extra day. I'm a ready for this bad boy!
P.S. How in the world do you thank people on here? Gracias!:laugh2:

[psylichon]

P.S. How in the world do you thank people on here? Gracias!:laugh2:

Once you accumulate 25 posts, you'll have the ability to thank people.

[LuvKeane]

It's hard for me to wait and Im honestly thinking of running out and getting the 3G today. These rumors seem more and more realistic and the conference is less than a month away so you'd figure Apple would have made some kind of announcement already.
Are they 12 year olds that like rumors and spreading them?

Plus, my mom's eligible for an upgrade in August so I could keep this one for a few months, sell it and get the new one! :laugh2:

[Indy]

@ Luvekeane. I wish Apple made earlier announcements as well. I've thought about this before and wondered why they do it the way they do. Why couldn't they say something about it earlier and give people time to plan on when and how they will get it or how much money they need to save up. I guess, in a way, they are more organized than most though, I mean, they hold an actual event on a set date and then they may announce something and release it a month later, I still wish they would would at least confirm if a new phone was definatley coming or not, they wouldn't even have to leak the specs or anything. Like, maybe along with the the WWDC date announcement they could've said "expect new iPhone hardware", that wouldn't neccesarily completely halt 3G sales because a lot of folks don't keep up with the updates and just buy anyways or just don't care. Could you imagine that if it were confirmed it was definatley coming how many fanboys/girls would be waiting, cash in hand, for the next best thing?! Instead, they announce wwdc, give everyone a month to pull their funds together, and wait to sell. This in itself is a whole other discussion and I could go on and on. So, sure it doesn't make much sense but it does make things exciting to wonder what they will do next! I'm all saved up and ready to go! :D

[LuvKeane]

I couldn't agree more. Because not everyone does any type of homework to see if a new model MAY be out when I'm going to the store to purchase one. I'd personally would be pissed if I bought a phone and 2 weeks later, they simply released a new model and only the hardcore campers knew about it because no propaganda or anything was done. True, it MAY affect the sales of the current ones but people, myself included, might think that the older models would be sold cheaper. I went into a store and the girl told me when the 3Gs came out, the price of the 1G stayed the same yet they still sold out of them!
True, this can be a whole nother "business" thread but if rumors are leaking left and right, I'd expect a company to step up and end the speculations, either way!
RIM and Palm have gladly put pictures, videos etc of the latest phones to come for a moral boost so people will want to run out and get it faster the day they are released.

[gogoplata1980]

Once you accumulate 25 posts, you'll have the ability to thank people.

Well, if I had 25 posts, this is a time where I'd use a thank you! :wink:

[Napoleon_PhoneApart]

It's hard for me to wait and Im honestly thinking of running out and getting the 3G today.

Chain yourself to Indy and gogoplata and suck it up, cowboy.

[Napoleon_PhoneApart]

Will we see another event after WWDC with Steve Jobs revealing new iPhone hardware? http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/09/05/13/steve_jobs_seen_returning_post_wwdc_brandishing_ne w_iphones.html I doubt it. And if they did, they would atleast have to announce the event and purpose at WWDC, they know everyone is anticipating something at WWDC. Can you imagine the chaos if nothing new is announced and then 3 weeks later an unannounced event with new iPhones and SJ?

An opposing view:

http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/09/05/14/an_alternative_argument_for_new_iphones_at_wwdc.ht ml

[Indy]

New iPhone Icons from Apple Point to New Potential Services. http://www.macnn.com/blogs/2009/05/14/new-iphone-icons-from-apple-point-to-new-potential-services.html

[LuvKeane]

Chain yourself to Indy and gogoplata and suck it up, cowgirl.

Fixed your post :wink:


Indy, just read that article and those icons look like someone made them on MS Paint. I don't know, if I was driving and want GPS service, Id buy a freaking GPS systems from TomTom or Magellan!
I've used Google Maps on my BB and it works great, especially when I'm walking somewhere or on a bus with no clue to how far I have to go.

[JWiPhone]

An opposing view:

http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/09/05/14/an_alternative_argument_for_new_iphones_at_wwdc.ht ml


On Wednesday, Piper Jaffray analyst Gene Munster wrote that (http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/09/05/13/steve_jobs_seen_returning_post_wwdc_brandishing_ne w_iphones.html), "While some investors may be expecting Apple to launch redesigned iPhones at WWDC, we do not anticipate the launch in early June. Rather, we expect Apple to host a special event in late June or early July to launch a family of iPhones."


Even in this scenario I could hold out another month. What would be difficult is a September launch. If they didn't announce anything at the WWDC there would be a lot of upset, disappointed customers and potential customers. I really don't think Apple will delay especially with the introductions of Palm Pre and other smart phones around this time.

[Napoleon_PhoneApart]

Fixed your post :wink:

Crap! I knew I'd screw that up somehow...:smile:

[acosmichippo]

An opposing view:

http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/09/05/14/an_alternative_argument_for_new_iphones_at_wwdc.ht ml

He noted that last year's iPhone 3G made its debut at the conference so there's no reason to suggest this year will see anything different."

I guess he missed Logic 101...

[dt808]

It's hard for me to wait and Im honestly thinking of running out and getting the 3G today. These rumors seem more and more realistic and the conference is less than a month away so you'd figure Apple would have made some kind of announcement already.
Are they 12 year olds that like rumors and spreading them?

Plus, my mom's eligible for an upgrade in August so I could keep this one for a few months, sell it and get the new one! :laugh2:

Patience! I've wanted an iphone since day 1, tons of my friends have it, yet I still don't. I've been with verizon for a very long time and I love their service here in Hawaii, but I'm finally going to make the switch to an iphone when they release the new one! I would love to have a 3g right now, but it just doesn't make sense when theres a new phone to be released within the next few months.

WAIT! You'll be glad you did and if you aren't.. well I have no clue.

[Indy]

Apparently there is a video and picture of a new mock-up in this link that I can't view on my sidekick. http://www.theiphoneblog.com/2009/05/14/thursday-fun-video-rainbowunibody-iphone-concept-renderings/

[JWiPhone]

Apparently there is a video and picture of a new mock-up in this link that I can't view on my sidekick. http://www.theiphoneblog.com/2009/05/14/thursday-fun-video-rainbowunibody-iphone-concept-renderings/

Thanks Indy. Won't it be great when you finally get the iPhone and will be able to view these without the limitations of a sidekick? That second Youtube video of the 'new iphone unibody' is really slick. I would love the new release to look something like that. :)

[Napoleon_PhoneApart]

Thanks Indy. Won't it be great when you finally get the iPhone and will be able to view these without the limitations of a sidekick?

Heck, I'd like to be able to view them on my iPhone!

[JWiPhone]

Heck, I'd like to be able to view them on my iPhone!

These are YouTube videos. Can't you view them with your iPhone? I ask since I don't have an iPhone yet and haven't tested out that link.

[monkeysrock0622]

love the unibody one. The collors, however, aren't great but they are good. I doubt Apple would bring back the separate color bottom piece from the first gen, and even if they did I don't think they would make it white.

[Indy]

Even in this scenario I could hold out another month. What would be difficult is a September launch. If they didn't announce anything at the WWDC there would be a lot of upset, disappointed customers and potential customers. I really don't think Apple will delay especially with the introductions of Palm Pre and other smart phones around this time.


I'm with ya there. If absolutley nothing is announced at WWDC, which I find highly unlikely, then I could hold out until at least the end of June to see what happens with the whole "Steve Jobs Comeback" deal. Wait until September? No.

[Phxblue]

Man, wait longer?? I cant stand my slow Edge only V1 iPhone anymore..

[Indy]

Man, wait longer?? I cant stand my slow Edge only V1 iPhone anymore..

http://hauntingthunder.files.wordpress.com/2007/06/apple-kitteh-saiz-u-wayt-4-iphone-update.jpg

Yes. Even iphone kitteh sais so. do not upset the iphone kitteh please kthnxbai.

[gogoplata1980]

http://hauntingthunder.files.wordpress.com/2007/06/apple-kitteh-saiz-u-wayt-4-iphone-update.jpg

Yes. Even iphone kitteh sais so. do not upset the iphone kitteh please kthnxbai.

You're right, Indy. When a Lolcat speaks, you listen. Thanks for the helpful advice!
http://img42.imageshack.us/img42/9995/lolcatcookie.png (http://img42.imageshack.us/my.php?image=lolcatcookie.png)

[iNinja]

Bestbuy leaked stock list - Project Charlie! Looks like Best Buy are prepering for 3 new secret handsets launching soon. BGR et all are pondering the likelyhood it could be the rumoured 3 new models of iphone - Fingers crossed!!

- (i dont know how to add a picture to a reply that isnt a http: linked one.... how do i add a picture from my computer without uploading to photobucket or where ever...)

http://i2.phonearena.com/showimage.php?m=Articles.Images&f=name&id=22971&v=thumb

http://www.phonearena.com/htmls/Project-Charlier---three-secret-AT-T-devices-bound-for-Best-Buy-article-a_5065.html

[iphun]

Bestbuy leaked stock list - Project Charlie! Looks like Best Buy are prepering for 3 new secret handsets launching soon. BGR et all are pondering the likelyhood it could be the rumoured 3 new models of iphone - Fingers crossed!!

- (i dont know how to add a picture to a reply that isnt a http: linked one.... how do i add a picture from my computer without uploading to photobucket or where ever...)

http://i2.phonearena.com/showimage.php?m=Articles.Images&f=name&id=22971&v=thumb

http://www.phonearena.com/htmls/Project-Charlier---three-secret-AT-T-devices-bound-for-Best-Buy-article-a_5065.html

I think those three would be the same way they do things now with the 8GB black and 16GB white or black, which adds up to three. Obviously with a bump up in GB and whatever upgrades they may have planned. But I definitely think a newer case and better screen will be in the new iphone.

And to add photos from your computer you go right below the reply window and under "Additional Options" you click on manage attachments and can upload a file from your computer.

[iNinja]

Thanks, i have been looking for that for so long!! :)

I think the 3 rumoured handsets could be the 16gb and 32gb V3 Iphones (Iphone HD), with all the updates we have been discussing etc, and then possibly a 32gb Iphone 3g - for those that dont need the HD functions etc...?

This might not even be for the iphone!! ha

[iphun]

Thanks, i have been looking for that for so long!! :)

I think the 3 rumoured handsets could be the 16gb and 32gb V3 Iphones (Iphone HD), with all the updates we have been discussing etc, and then possibly a 32gb Iphone 3g - for those that dont need the HD functions etc...?

This might not even be for the iphone!! ha

No problem, I'm happy to help.

Those could be the options too for the three phones, they might not consider the different color a separate product in that best buy inventory.

They should have called it Project Steve instead of Charlie, but that would be too obvious. Unless they call every phone Project Charlie I think it's the iphone. And how many new at&t phones are going to come out simulatneously like that. Plus none of them can be the palm pre since the carrier says at&t mobility.

[Indy]

@croucher. Count another thanx to your post when I get home I'll take care of ya. :D Been really busy all morning and was juuuust about to post this, seems I'm a bit late to the discussion. :)

[Indy]

Nothing real special but another link with a little tidbit of news. http://www.macrumors.com/2009/05/15/new-iphone-and-ipod-touch-details-ipod-to-get-camera/

[Indy]

I may just visit the 3 or 4 Best Buy locations nearest to me and try and get them to slip up and tell me a lil somethin'. Come on, if we all do it, surely one of us can get some answers. Some of you single guys and girls get your game face on and flirt around! :D

[iphun]

Nothing real special but another link with a little tidbit of news. http://www.macrumors.com/2009/05/15/new-iphone-and-ipod-touch-details-ipod-to-get-camera/

With how thin the nanos are I don't know how they would fit a camera into one, so I definitely don't see that happening.
And the website (http://www.chinaontrade.com/iphone-4g-spare-parts-c-69.html) Phxblue posted with a new bigger screen and a new bezel show that the front casing will definitely change and maybe the back will remain the glossy black or white that they currently offer. I know that those could be fakes, but the 2g and 3g spare parts are real on that site. And the other rumor from china (http://www.macrumors.com/2009/05/11/chinese-forum-poster-claims-next-generation-iphone-details/) I think is fake because the AT&T is too close to the 3.5 and I doubt they would know the final release version yet(it looks photo shopped). The new screen and bezel haven't been extremely publicized and looking for attention so I could see those being the new cases.
I know I could be wrong but that's just how I see the difference between some rumors :smile::laugh2:
I just want them to announce the new phone, all this rumor stuff has me ready for a new one!!!

[Phxblue]

I just want them to announce the new phone, all this rumor stuff has me ready for a new one!!!

Amen to that. That's all I can really ask for at this point. :2cool:

[JWiPhone]

I may just visit the 3 or 4 Best Buy locations nearest to me and try and get them to slip up and tell me a lil somethin'. Come on, if we all do it, surely one of us can get some answers. Some of you single guys and girls get your game face on and flirt around! :D


I have a BestBuy in my neighborhood. I could slip them some cash, get them to talk. LOL

[iNinja]

@croucher. Count another thanx to your post when I get home I'll take care of ya. :D Been really busy all morning and was juuuust about to post this, seems I'm a bit late to the discussion. :)

haha, no problem. I count on you for my updates, so thanks to you too! :) Just cant wait to find out whats going to be released!!

[JWiPhone]

These are iPhone renderings that Indy posted yesterday, the video link. These, however, are the still photos. Again, just renderings and not the real deal. I don't care for the multi-color, but the one-tone, black pictures on top look sweet.

http://www.***********.com/iphone-news/3rd-generation-iphone-pics-leaked/

[acosmichippo]

well, we're already pretty sure that the bezel as we know it will not be there.

but i do like the idea... looks nearly exactly like a V1, which is fine by me.

[acosmichippo]

I have a BestBuy in my neighborhood. I could slip them some cash, get them to talk. LOL



Well, I work at best buy, and let me tell ya, our mobile guys won't know anything about it. In fact,we EICers probably know more than they do.

[JWiPhone]

Well, I work at best buy, and let me tell ya, our mobile guys won't know anything about it. In fact,we EICers probably know more than they do.

Very true. I was being factitious. :laugh2:

[Napoleon_PhoneApart]

Facetious? :smile:

[JWiPhone]

Facetious? :smile:

yep, my bad. I think I need to rely more on spell checker LOL

[dt808]

yep, my bad. I think I need to rely more on spell checker LOL

Its ok! A real man admits defeat(or says that he should use spellchecker more often). lol ;p

[acosmichippo]

Oh, I thought you were faserious.

[ZR_Yancy]

I thought he meant fictitious.

[Napoleon_PhoneApart]

I think all of this is risible.

[iphun]

Here is an interesting view on the meaning of "Project Charlie"

http://blogs.computerworld.com/project_charlie_ipod_cameras_background_apps_and_h ackintosh_improvements

He mentions that Charlie typically stands for 3rd generation or 3rd in the military, where Alpha and Bravo are 1st and 2nd(A, B, C). This is more proof that these could actually be the 3rd gen iPhones.

[JWiPhone]

Here is an interesting view on the meaning of "Project Charlie"

http://blogs.computerworld.com/project_charlie_ipod_cameras_background_apps_and_h ackintosh_improvements

He mentions that Charlie typically stands for 3rd generation or 3rd in the military, where Alpha and Bravo are 1st and 2nd(A, B, C). This is more proof that these could actually be the 3rd gen iPhones.

Thank you for that enticing bit of news. I hadn't thought of it in those terms. It all points to a 3rd Generation iPhone coming soon. :smile:

According to Wikipedia, Charlie, is slang for 'cocaine'. I can see a possible connection there.

[iNinja]

I like that little bit of hope that there will be 3 new models released.... fingers crossed. I had never thought of it like that before - ie, charlie = 3rd gen

[bulls6pack]

According to Wikipedia, Charlie, is slang for 'cocaine'. I can see a possible connection there.

I dont see Best Buy selling bad guys from Vietnam or Cocaine! :)

[iphun]

Thank you for that enticing bit of news. I hadn't thought of it in those terms. It all points to a 3rd Generation iPhone coming soon. :smile:

According to Wikipedia, Charlie, is slang for 'cocaine'. I can see a possible connection there.

I know I hadn't thought of it like that either!!:smile:

Does that connection have anything to do with the iphone being an addictive drug?

I like that little bit of hope that there will be 3 new models released.... fingers crossed. I had never thought of it like that before - ie, charlie = 3rd gen

Yeah and it just makes me more curious as to what those three models are, whether they are completely different from each other or just like the way they sell them now with two colors for the larger hard drive model and one for the smaller.

[Phxblue]

Lets be realistic. I think IF "charlie" is concerning the iPhone it is simply for the 3G phone and the 2 storage sizes of the new iPhone. I also wonder if charlie may be related to a netbook or two?

[Napoleon_PhoneApart]

Lets be realistic. I think IF "charlie" is concerning the iPhone it is simply for the 3G phone and the 2 storage sizes of the new iPhone. I also wonder if charlie may be related to a netbook or two?

Well, the screenshot of the Best Buy inventory page looked as if that page held only cell phone nomenclature.

[Indy]

Here is an interesting view on the meaning of "Project Charlie"

http://blogs.computerworld.com/project_charlie_ipod_cameras_background_apps_and_h ackintosh_improvements

He mentions that Charlie typically stands for 3rd generation or 3rd in the military, where Alpha and Bravo are 1st and 2nd(A, B, C). This is more proof that these could actually be the 3rd gen iPhones.

You might be onto something there. And maybe the 3 slots are there for 3 color choices, e.g. white, black, red?

[Phxblue]

Oh the rumor mill... What you guys don't know is that the iPhone is being discontinued and Steve Jobs has already retired and moved out of the country. You know that talk about Palm "hiring" Apple engineers a while back? Well that was a coverup so that Apple and Palm could collaborate on the Pre without raising suspicion, hence the reason why there is talk of the Pre being released the day before WWDC. All of this will be announced at WWDC. Schiller is my brother, thats why I know all this stuff.

[iphun]

You might be onto something there. And maybe the 3 slots are there for 3 color choices, e.g. white, black, red?

I think we can come to the conclusion that these are the new iphones. First off I doubt any company other than apple would be so secretive that they would give it a code name. And don't forget that this is going on AT&T's network so it can't be the Pre which I could see being secretive about a launch. Also there's three devices under the code name, so it definitely has to the new iphones. Too bad we don't have a release date or more specs on them. I don't know how best buy does their inventory, but there very well could be three colors this time around.

[LuvKeane]

You might be onto something there. And maybe the 3 slots are there for 3 color choices, e.g. white, black, red?
I would LOVE there to be a [red] iPhone but ironically, they only carry those at Apple stores
So maybe size differences? Black 32g, Black and White for 64g? Like it is now? Or perhaps the nano iPhone!

[Hondamaker]

I would LOVE there to be a [red] iPhone but ironically, they only carry those at Apple stores
So maybe size differences? Black 32g, Black and White for 64g? Like it is now? Or perhaps the nano iPhone!
Since when does the Apple store carry a red iPhone? What am I missing here?

[iphun]

Since when does the Apple store carry a red iPhone? What am I missing here?

I think she means that only the apple stores carry the Product RED, which at this time is only for the nanos. I actually think it will be size differences like he mentions. Now the nanos have 8 and 16 GB models, so they can't let a NANO be as good as an iphone in the area of the GB.
As for the colors, they really don't have tons of people complaining about only having two colors, yes some would like other colors but I really don't think that the iphone market is big enough(compared to the ipod nano) to make more colors. The market is big but not enough for other colors. I could be wrong though cause the ipod nanos(in their early life) used to only be offered in two colors, black and white.

[LuvKeane]

First off, and you honestly don't know but I'm a she.
And 2nd, that is exactly what I was referring to as far as Apple stores holding the Product Red for the nanos at their stores. I honestly bought mine for the cause.
And I don't think people really should care about the colors which is why Im puzzled that they offer a white and black iPhone. I personally have kept my nano in a pink incase (can't see the red) and my cell phones in cases. Guess if i had a clear case that'd be a whole nother story.
Agreed that the focus SHOULD be in the interior of the new iPhones, not the exterior. I would like there to be a Red one just so a portion of my purchase would actually go to a good cause.

[Indy]

As much as I want to believe these are new iPhones its really gonna be a bummer when the headlines this week read that the project charlies were just 3 new samsung flip phones. LoL. They must be something very special though for them to use actual codename's for a new device, sort of strange. Why would they use codename's for the employee sku page? Is that Apple's way of keeping their suppliers in the dark? Fact is, SOMEONE at your local Best Buy knows something, it may not be the floor salesmen/women or the assistant manager but maybe the regional manager perhaps? Sorry for the jumbled paragraph, my wife is on the pc and I'm on the sk. =/

[iphun]

First off, and you honestly don't know but I'm a she.
And 2nd, that is exactly what I was referring to as far as Apple stores holding the Product Red for the nanos at their stores. I honestly bought mine for the cause.
And I don't think people really should care about the colors which is why Im puzzled that they offer a white and black iPhone. I personally have kept my nano in a pink incase (can't see the red) and my cell phones in cases. Guess if i had a clear case that'd be a whole nother story.
Agreed that the focus SHOULD be in the interior of the new iPhones, not the exterior. I would like there to be a Red one just so a portion of my purchase would actually go to a good cause.

Sorry my bad!!:embarrassed:
I use an incase for my iphone so I can't even see the phone color. The incase cases and all other cases offer such a variety of colors that should satisfy anyones need for a colored iphone. I think they could easily work a Red one into the line up. Although I think 3 colors would be as far as they go cause I'm sure they like the simplicity of as few colors as possible. They like the professionalism of the colors, but I think the Red could get people asking questions and you could bring up where some of the money went. Red could be a big hit just to get a different color. Let's hope that when they release the new one that their main focus is on the insides of the iPhone(and the screen if that's considered in or out).

[iphun]

As much as I want to believe these are new iPhones its really gonna be a bummer when the headlines this week read that the project charlies were just 3 new samsung flip phones. LoL. They must be something very special though for them to use actual codename's for a new device, sort of strange. Why would they use codename's for the employee sku page? Is that Apple's way of keeping their suppliers in the dark? Fact is, SOMEONE at your local Best Buy knows something, it may not be the floor salesmen/women or the assistant manager but maybe the regional manager perhaps? Sorry for the jumbled paragraph, my wife is on the pc and I'm on the sk. =/

I would die if these ended up being 3 new samsung flips lol, but I still think it is apple. You know for a fact that if it said 3rd gen iphone or something to do with iphone they would have leaked that picture saying that they have proof of the new iphones. It doesn't even say apple iphone and it still got leaked as an iphone rumor!!:laugh2:

[Indy]

It doesn't even say apple iphone and it still got leaked as an iphone rumor!!:laugh2:

Yea, I know! That's funny. :tounge:

Wouldn't it be a bit early to have sku's already in the system for a new iPhone?

WWDC is 22 days away. Then you KNOW if there will be any news whatsoever of a new iPhone it will probably just be an announcement and not an actual release THAT day. So go ahead and assume it will be another 3 to 4 weeks before they actually start selling.

That's nearly 2 months in advance with 'Project Charlie' just sitting there idle.

Of course, anything can happen with Apple as we all know. They may just have the thing ready on June 8th! If 3.0 is in fact released that day and all the current gen iPhone users can download and enjoy, then maybe they would release the new one that day as well so all who have been waiting can go out and buy whichever model they want and have 3.0 that day along with everyone else.

Or maybe as you said. iPhone news has been extreeeemley slow lately and maybe they are just scraping the bottom of the barrel for something iPhone related to throw out there henceforth turning this into 'iPhone' news. :laugh2:

[Indy]

Oh, and have I mentioned that I love these new concepts? My new favorite! :laugh2:

http://www.nowhereelse.fr/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/iphone-unibody2-thumb.jpg (http://www.nowhereelse.fr/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/iphone-unibody2.jpg)
http://www.nowhereelse.fr/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/iphone-unibody1-thumb.jpg (http://www.nowhereelse.fr/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/iphone-unibody1.jpg)
http://www.nowhereelse.fr/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/iphone-unibody4-thumb.jpg (http://www.nowhereelse.fr/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/iphone-unibody4.jpg)
http://www.nowhereelse.fr/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/iphone-unibody6-thumb.jpg (http://www.nowhereelse.fr/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/iphone-unibody6.jpg)
http://www.nowhereelse.fr/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/iphone-unibody3-thumb.jpg (http://www.nowhereelse.fr/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/iphone-unibody3.jpg)

[iphun]

Yea, I know! That's funny. :tounge:

Wouldn't it be a bit early to have sku's already in the system for a new iPhone?

WWDC is 22 days away. Then you KNOW if there will be any news whatsoever of a new iPhone it will probably just be an announcement and not an actual release THAT day. So go ahead and assume it will be another 3 to 4 weeks before they actually start selling.

That's nearly 2 months in advance with 'Project Charlie' just sitting there idle.

Of course, anything can happen with Apple as we all know. They may just have the thing ready on June 8th! If 3.0 is in fact released that day and all the current gen iPhone users can download and enjoy, then maybe they would release the new one that day as well so all who have been waiting can go out and buy whichever model they want and have 3.0 that day along with everyone else.

Or maybe as you said. iPhone news has been extreeeemley slow lately and maybe they are just scraping the bottom of the barrel for something iPhone related to throw out there henceforth turning this into 'iPhone' news. :laugh2:

That's true, but I don't know how best buy does their inventory. They might like to have it in the system cause they got the go ahead from apple that they can carry the new iphone and they are preparing for it by adding it to the system already.

I definitely can see 3.0 being released at WWDC since the beta version we have now is very stable. They have plenty of room to fit another beta or 2 in before WWDC to finalize it and add their finishing touch. Now if they are adding video recording that will only be available on the new phone I think they will want to have some new phones there for developers to play around with it, so they WOULD release it then. I think they want to change things up with a WWDC launch or maybe they will say that they are releasing sooner than normal but want it to be shown off by Steve Jobs on the rumored late June appearance. What they don't want is people buying the 2nd gen iphone after the 3.0 launch just to get their hands on it cause that would ruin 3rd gen sales. I do think they like to release the phone and new OS at the same time, so only time(22 days!!!) will tell.

Yeah for all we know Best Buy names every new phone 'Project Charlie'!:laugh2: Either it is me just wanting it to be new iphone news or that name really does point to a 3rd gen iphone.

[JWiPhone]

Oh, and have I mentioned that I love these new concepts? My new favorite! :laugh2:


I think I'm in love. I guess we could call this 'eye candy'. I too really love this concept. Wouldn't it be amazing if that turned out to be the real deal when they unveil in 22 days, and all this time we have been actually looking at the new iPhone? I'm literally salivating over these pics.

[acosmichippo]

it would be nice (i like them too), but that's not gonna be it. If it goes down anything like last year, the closest idea we'll have is the leaked photo of the back casing from a while ago.

[iphun]

it would be nice (i like them too), but that's not gonna be it. If it goes down anything like last year, the closest idea we'll have is the leaked photo of the back casing from a while ago.

Last year the casing leak was in may and the one this year was in february, so I am doubtful that the matte case is going to be in the final version. Unless we got so lucky to get the case leaked earlier than last year. One thing I noticed was that the o in iphone was cut off at the bottom so I think that it might be a fake. If that website a few pages back selling the 3rd gen bezel and screen actually got their hands on those parts early maybe they will get their hands on some other parts before the release. I am keeping an eye on that site to see if any other spare parts show up.

[psylichon]

Not sure if it's been linked here yet or not, but this is an interesting conjecture regarding background applications on the iPhone platform:

http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/16/apple-may-or-may-not-be-mulling-background-apps-for-the-iphone/

I remember saying something eerily similar months ago on here somewhere...

[Phxblue]

Man all this rumoring and conjecture and speculation is wearing thin on me. I just wish Apple would say something. I know they wont but I can dream..

[psylichon]

Trust me, it's more fun this way.

[Phxblue]

This is the third time I've done this. My hearts gonna give out.

[acosmichippo]

The company has invested a lot of time -- way too much time, actually -- crafting its push notification infrastructure... which makes it seem terribly unlikely that they'd reverse so quickly.

...requiring the user to choose their own two background apps seems totally counter to the "it just works" mantra that rules the iPhone's dumbed-down interface.


i think those two points paint a pretty clear picture.

[Indy]

Not HARDWARE related but exciting. AT&T may offer $20 data plan. http://forums.appleinsider.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=98343 This would be lovely. :D

[iphun]

Not HARDWARE related but exciting. AT&T may offer $20 data plan. http://forums.appleinsider.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=98343 This would be lovely. :D

I've seen this before. I think if it's true then it is apple pushing AT&T to make the 3g more appealing. It's their tactic to get people to upgrade to the 2nd and 3rd gen iPhones cause if the 2g costs the same as the 3g then wouldn't you want the 3g instead.

[LuvKeane]

OR, they will do that to keep people from switching to Verizon if/when they get the phone next year and possibly the same (or cheaper, which I highly doubt) plan

[Indy]

Here's a little discussion I started over at the Best Buy forums about 'Project Charlie'.

http://www.forums.bestbuy.com/bb/board/message?board.id=Cellular&thread.id=552

The forum member "Nokia" I believe works at BB. I did a little research on different threads he/she has posted in and they seem to know thier stuff leading me to believe they are a BB employee. They say it's the new iPhone set to be released July 1st.

[firewire]

Here's a little discussion I started over at the Best Buy forums about 'Project Charlie'.

http://www.forums.bestbuy.com/bb/board/message?board.id=Cellular&thread.id=552

The forum member "Nokia" I believe works at BB. I did a little research on different threads he/she has posted in and they seem to know thier stuff leading me to believe they are a BB employee. They say it's the new iPhone set to be released July 1st.
Wow that is very specific information. I hope you're right because July 1st is much sooner than I expected it to be released (if it was to be released at all.)

Thanks for the info!

[iphun]

Here's a little discussion I started over at the Best Buy forums about 'Project Charlie'.

http://www.forums.bestbuy.com/bb/board/message?board.id=Cellular&thread.id=552

The forum member "Nokia" I believe works at BB. I did a little research on different threads he/she has posted in and they seem to know thier stuff leading me to believe they are a BB employee. They say it's the new iPhone set to be released July 1st.

"Nokia" does end up saying that Charlie stands for three, it's the third gen and there are three coming out. If it is coming out July 1st I think they will either announce at WWDC or I have heard rumors of Jobs coming back late June to announce it. If he did come back in late June (probably a week or two from July 1st) I could hear him saying "They are shipping out today and will be available in all apple stores and authorized retailers July 1st" :smile:

[Indy]

Apple beefing up phone support with about 450 telecommuters.

http://arstechnica.com/apple/news/2009/05/apple-beefing-up-phone-support-with-about-450-telecommuters.ars

"Apple is fortifying its phone-based support team with as many as 450 "Apple At Home Experts," or remote tech support staff, according to recent job ads from the company. The boost could be due to new iPhone hardware expected to be released this summer, though there is reason to believe that it may be due to an as-yet-unrevealed new product introduction."

"Whatever Apple is planning, the company is apparently expecting a large increase in support calls. According to Cult of Mac, Apple aims to hire 150 remote technicians a month in July, August, and September. Since the new iPhone hardware is expected to launch in June or July—before most of the new staff will have been trained and working—this is likely evidence that Apple plans to launch something big in October, when the company generally announces new laptop computers."

[Indy]

"Nokia" does end up saying that Charlie stands for three, it's the third gen and there are three coming out. If it is coming out July 1st I think they will either announce at WWDC or I have heard rumors of Jobs coming back late June to announce it. If he did come back in late June (probably a week or two from July 1st) I could hear him saying "They are shipping out today and will be available in all apple stores and authorized retailers July 1st" :smile:

Ya know, something just occurred to me. What if they just made an announcement at WWDC that a big iPhone event is coming at the end of the month (June) with a very special guest. This would be that event, Steve Jobs announcing the new iPhone due out the next day, July 1st!

....



Nah.

:tounge:

[Indy]

Wow that is very specific information. I hope you're right because July 1st is much sooner than I expected it to be released (if it was to be released at all.)

Thanks for the info!

Yea, it seemed in a sense that they just sort of blurted it out! :laugh2:

[iphun]

Ya know, something just occurred to me. What if they just made an announcement at WWDC that a big iPhone event is coming at the end of the month (June) with a very special guest. This would be that event, Steve Jobs announcing the new iPhone due out the next day, July 1st!

....



Nah.

:tounge:

Haha I think if they said it that way then they should just come out and say Steve Jobs :tounge:. Hey if it is really coming out the first then I am r e a d y, so I just wish we could get the reveal over with at WWDC so I can drool over the pictures and specs until it actually comes out. As for BB we haven't been able to disprove those 3 secretive phones in their system, and we have a possible employee that knows the SKU system saying that no other known phone is coming out in 3 models at the same time and have the need to keep it that much of a secret. I wonder what the apple genius people know about the release, if anything, and if they do then I'll go get a job there and leak all the information that they have.

[iphun]

Hey how do we know that best buy isn't getting them later than apple stores and/or at&t. Does anyone remember how long after that apple stores had the 3g iphones that BB got their hands on them? Maybe they do get them at the same time, but just asking. If they get them later then maybe we would actually see it earlier than July.

[Napoleon_PhoneApart]

Here's a little discussion I started over at the Best Buy forums about 'Project Charlie'.

http://www.forums.bestbuy.com/bb/board/message?board.id=Cellular&thread.id=552

The forum member "Nokia" I believe works at BB. I did a little research on different threads he/she has posted in and they seem to know thier stuff leading me to believe they are a BB employee. They say it's the new iPhone set to be released July 1st.

Now that was an interesting read. I hope this Nokia character doesn't turn out to be some 13 year old with an overactive imagination...

EDIT: I did a little research on Nokia on that forum. Here is another thread that leads me to believe that he really is a Best Buy employee:

http://www.forums.bestbuy.com/bb/board/message?board.id=Computers_New&message.id=6356#M6356

[iphonewarrior]

I agree with Napoleon, this Nokia person does seem very in the know about these things. I can't see it being all truths though, if one person can simply say it like that in a forum, it would be lit up all over the interent.

I'm not buying it personally- I want to believe it but something tells me that its not going to happen. I don't want to get all excited and be let down. lol

[JWiPhone]

Ya know, something just occurred to me. What if they just made an announcement at WWDC that a big iPhone event is coming at the end of the month (June) with a very special guest. This would be that event, Steve Jobs announcing the new iPhone due out the next day, July 1st!


Thanks for your investigative work Indy:tounge: I have wondered the same thing about Steve Jobs' return. It all seems to coincide around the release of the iPhone. Indy, you might very well be celebrating INDYpendence Day with a new iPhone. :tounge:

[Napoleon_PhoneApart]

Indy's waiting on the 2010 model, right, Indy?

[Indy]

@iPhun LoL! I was thinking of doing the same thing at one point in time. Going to work PT at my local Apple store and infiltrating the back room, snatching up as much info as possible then quitting, unless I got fired for snooping around. It would be worth it if I got the goods, so worth it. :D

[Indy]

@Napoleon More like 2011 with the LTE support and 120GB. :D

[Indy]

I'm sure everyone seen this by now but wouldn't it be great to see Apple fire back today with "new iPhone released x/xx/xx"? They could SO kill anything having to do with a Pre today. :D http://www.electronista.com/articles/09/05/19/palm.pre.june.6th/

[Napoleon_PhoneApart]

I'm sure everyone seen this by now but wouldn't it be great to see Apple fire back today with "new iPhone released x/xx/xx"? They could SO kill anything having to do with a Pre today. :D http://www.electronista.com/articles/09/05/19/palm.pre.june.6th/

Whatever happens, this can only be good for us. Competition is good.

[Indy]

New iPhone Specs, Launch Date Leaked? http://cultofmac.com/new-iphone-specs-launch-date-leaked/10921

[Indy]

Ya know, a few of those specs seem familiar with the PM I received that I posted here a few pages back somewhere (can't find it on this stupid phone, someone help please!). Chrome bezel gone for instance and the light up Apple emblem on the back. I'll see if I can dig it back up later when I get home if anyone has trouble finding it, then I can show the comparison. :)

[Indy]

http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2009/05/next-gen-iphone-specs-launch-date-revealed/

[seanwes]

New iPhone Specs, Launch Date Leaked? http://cultofmac.com/new-iphone-specs-launch-date-leaked/10921


Well, I know I totally called (http://www.everythingicafe.com/forum/future-iphones/breaking-new-iphone-release-confirmed-july-17th-45677.html) the July 17th release. :laugh2::tounge:

[Indy]

Hahaha, good call! You win. :D

[Indy]

Hahaha, good call! You win. :D -f true that is. ;)

[iphun]

@iPhun LoL! I was thinking of doing the same thing at one point in time. Going to work PT at my local Apple store and infiltrating the back room, snatching up as much info as possible then quitting, unless I got fired for snooping around. It would be worth it if I got the goods, so worth it. :D

Yeah I'm seriously about to do this and there's 2 apple stores near me that I could go to work at.
Ya know, a few of those specs seem familiar with the PM I received that I posted here a few pages back somewhere (can't find it on this stupid phone, someone help please!). Chrome bezel gone for instance and the light up Apple emblem on the back. I'll see if I can dig it back up later when I get home if anyone has trouble finding it, then I can show the comparison. :)

Here's that post: http://www.everythingicafe.com/forum/future-iphones/nextgeniphone-predictions-on-new-hardware-and-release-dates-40204-74.html#post443775

[LuvKeane]

Yeah I'm seriously about to do this and there's 2 apple stores near me that I could go to work at.

I honestly applied various times recently and nothing... same with Best Buy for THAT reason! :2cool:
I wonder if people are going to turn to the dark side and get the Palm... I switched from a Palm to a BB and was grateful quite a few years ago! Now Im tempted to switch from the BB to the iPhone. But I really hope they are the same price as they are today, even though it will be double the memory (I dont use anywhere near my 8g nano).

[bulls6pack]

A light up Apple logo on the back would be pretty sweet!

[Indy]

@iPhun Mwuhahaha! >=P Thanx for posting the link, Ill tap you a thanks when I get home. ;)

[iphun]

I honestly applied various times recently and nothing... same with Best Buy for THAT reason! :2cool:
I wonder if people are going to turn to the dark side and get the Palm... I switched from a Palm to a BB and was grateful quite a few years ago! Now Im tempted to switch from the BB to the iPhone. But I really hope they are the same price as they are today, even though it will be double the memory (I dont use anywhere near my 8g nano).

I bet they make sure to have people hired around now, so that people like us can't get in and leak all the info on new products :laugh2:

I will never switch to the Palm, I am too much of an iphone fan. I personally don't like keyboards anymore and I like that the iphone has as few movable parts like keys and the slider like the pre has. The iphone is simple and has everything I have ever wanted in the phone now with 3.0(can you even imagine what 4.0 will be like). Although I would like to run a radio app in the background I still wouldn't switch just because of that. I think if they are going to add a good quality video recording they will definitely need the sizes to be 16gb.

[Indy]

Different models coming with software specific versions? http://www.macrumors.com/2009/05/19/differentiation-of-future-iphone-models-to-be-driven-by-software/

[iphun]

Different models coming with software specific versions? http://www.macrumors.com/2009/05/19/differentiation-of-future-iphone-models-to-be-driven-by-software/

I think that's too complicated for apple. Their products typically include everything and make your decision simple and easy. It's as easy as walking in and asking for an iphone, the size, and depending on the size, the color. Not do you want a youtube version with video or no video, but the one with no video has this and the youtube doesn't. It's like jailbreaking that they are against, it's just too many options. Look at their computers, they are all the same other than what's inside like hard drive processing power, and screen size. I really hope they don't do this cause I will be mad at them, I want all the features not just one. I think the software will remain as it always has - iPhone 3g, iPhone, iPod 2nd gen, iPod 1st gen (possibly an iPhone 3g 3rd gen to unlock video recording and anything that might be exclusive to the 3rd gen). Even making something like video recording exclusive to the 3rd gen isn't like them since it could be done with the current hardware. Please I hope to god that it stays the same.

[iphun]

Whew it's obvious where I stand on that subject ^^^ cause that was a heck of a rant. :gasp::laugh2:
Does anyone agree with my rant?

[Bitewound]

I agree-I'd hate several different versions - give me one with everything

[acosmichippo]

i don't see that happening. Just look at their computers. Unlike Windows, there's no OSX "Business", "Home" (Basic AND Premium, mind you), or "Ultimate". Just OSX and OSX server.

Maybe they'll offer heavy-duty video editing and such as an App add-on in the app store for those who want it... much like you can purchase Aperture or Final cut for your mac if you're a photo or video professional. But i don't see why they'd force you to pick one or another and be stuck with it.

[Hondamaker]

I'm sure everyone seen this by now but wouldn't it be great to see Apple fire back today with "new iPhone released x/xx/xx"? They could SO kill anything having to do with a Pre today. :D http://www.electronista.com/articles/09/05/19/palm.pre.june.6th/If Sprint announces competitive pricing on it's data plans, hopefully ATT will have to lower theirs even more to compete.

[dturner]

If Sprint announces competitive pricing on it's data plans, hopefully ATT will have to lower theirs even more to compete.
Here ya go (http://www.iphonealley.com/news/atampt-considering-lower-price-limited-data-plans-for-iphone). :smile:

[Napoleon_PhoneApart]

I agree-I'd hate several different versions - give me one with everything

Would you like fries and a Coke with that? :laugh2:

[styfle]

I think if there are different versions it would be hardware differences like in the past, not software for the reasons state above.

[seanwes]

Besides, if the hardware was the same, and they just offered separate models with different software versions, we'd just figure out a way to hack the cheaper model and put the more expensive model's software on it.

[firewire]

Before we know it we'll have the new iphone in our hands and we'll all be talking about the prospects of a software 4.0 and of the new rumored iphone that does holographic projection and has artificial intelligence. The AI's name would be Steve.

[Bitewound]

Would you like fries and a Coke with that? :laugh2:
Are you buying??

[Indy]

http://www.macrumors.com/2009/05/19/iphone-rumors-accelerate-as-wwdc-approaches-telecomnz-support-staff-possible-specs/

- A Telecom NZ representative (http://www.macrumors.com/c.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Ftwitter.com%2FTelecomNZ%2Fsta tus%2F1852520237&t=1242787502) claimed via Twitter that "we are in negotiations with Apple... we are very focused on the 3rd gen iPhone.. we will keep u updated". The "3rd gen iPhone", of course, would refer to an as-yet unreleased iPhone.

:wink:

[Indy]

So going back to what I was saying earlier when I was on my phone at work and couldn't really get things together.

Let's look at what my source sent me through PM (hehe, I have a source :tounge:). And let's see how the PM sent to me compares with what rumors we've heard today.

I worked for Apple, but was not employed by Apple.

Yes, one is coming, it may be delayed by up to three weeks though. Apple won't launch until 32 GB models are ready but they are dependent upon industry supply. Target launch for July 10, actual launch will be the 17th to no later than the 31st. I don't work in software but I think that 3.0 will be ready before the new iPhone and they will probably release it to current users before the new iPhone goes on sale.

The leaked image of the back casing from a month or two ago is real. It is a rubberized plastic which feels "grippy" and has a smoky charcoal color. That is part of just one of three prototypes. The chrome bezel is gone. The camera hole is slightly larger with an actual lens, no optical zoom or flash. It will utilize the 3.2 MP sensor. On one prototype the Apple logo was made transparent so it could be lighted by an LED (which had yet to be added). It doesn't appear this feature has been added in the 3.0 software so it is unlikely to be released. On another prototype there were two LED's that shone through the LCD when it wasn't in use, however this won't come to the final release as the feature doesn't justify the cost and it increased the device thickness somewhat.

The CPU is 733 MHz and is custom-designed by PA semi. It runs underclocked around 530 MHz at the same performance as the current processor which runs at 400 MHz. It could probably run at its full rating but will likely be under clocked at whichever rating optimizes battery life. It is not multi-core. RAM has doubled to 256 MB.

One model will be released this summer, two distinct models are being developed. Don't know when they will expand by the product line but expect two iPhone models by the end of 2010.

Now let's look at the news from today.

http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2009/05/next-gen-iphone-specs-launch-date-revealed/

The source told iPhone fan blog Apple iPhone Apps that the new iPhone will launch July 17. Many of the provided specifications corroborate with past rumors that the device will introduce a digital compass and a video recorder, among other features. (The source did not provide a photo; the image to the right is from a past rumor report for the sake of comparison.) Here’s the list:

32GB and 16GB storage (up from the current 16GB and 8GB models)
$199 and $299 price points to be maintained
3.2-megapixel camera (up from the current 2-megapixel camera)
Video-recording and editing capabilities
Ability to send a picture & video via MMS
Discontinuation of the metal band surrounding the edge of the device
OLED screen
1.5 times the battery life of the current models
Double the RAM and processing power
Built-in FM transmitter
Apple logo on back will glow
Rubber-tread backing
Sleeker design
Built-in compass
The camera, GPS, compass and Google map combined will identify photo and inform about photo locations
Turn-by-turn directions
So what do you all think?

Things are coming together nicely if this all ends up being true. I think it is somewhat funny how most of these sites with rumors about specs are calling this a 'minor' update. If you ask me it's a 'huge' update, along with new 3.0 software? Sheesh! It's truly AWESOME! :laugh2:

[iphun]

So what do you all think?

Things are coming together nicely if this all ends up being true. I think it is somewhat funny how most of these sites with rumors about specs are calling this a 'minor' update. If you ask me it's a 'huge' update, along with new 3.0 software? Sheesh! It's truly AWESOME! :laugh2:

Either it's true or someone put together other rumors from everywhere and posted it today. Wait hmmm isn't it convenient that these specs were released the day sprint and palm announced a release date for the pre. How well do you know your 'source' cause maybe they had to do with some of todays rumors? I am hoping that these are all true and what makes me think that they might be true is that we basically got everything we asked for in the 3.0 software, so maybe they are planning the same 'get everything we asked for' in hardware. They are in need of a complete hardware upgrade though cause the 3g was more of a refresh than anything else, it only added 3g, gps, and new case (right? correct me if there's more). The only part about them that doesn't connect to other rumors is that BB has the stock date as July 1st and today's(and your source) rumor says the 17th, unless they need that much time to work with the new features for customer service reasons (I am basically figuring that 'Project Charlie' is the iPhone).

I have to agree that it is definitely a huge update especially with 3.0, and I am getting more and more excited for WWDC now:smile::2cool:. The pre has nothing on us if these updates are true, I looked at it's specs today and it does not have their 4g which if it did could have been a hard thing to compete with. Also the sprint plans are't really any better than at&t's.

[Napoleon_PhoneApart]

So going back to what I was saying earlier when I was on my phone at work and couldn't really get things together.

Let's look at what my source sent me through PM (hehe, I have a source :tounge:). And let's see how the PM sent to me compares with what rumors we've heard today.
So what do you all think?

Things are coming together nicely if this all ends up being true. I think it is somewhat funny how most of these sites with rumors about specs are calling this a 'minor' update. If you ask me it's a 'huge' update, along with new 3.0 software? Sheesh! It's truly AWESOME! :laugh2:

I'm not sure; I read this very same thing ar least a week ago.

[Indy]

Either it's true or someone put together other rumors from everywhere and posted it today.

Ok, so here's another angle to look at it.

Pre announced today with release date and price.

A pretty big rumor from a blog arises that sounds reasonable but sketchy.

If the rumor was true, wouldn't Apple have to come out then and give an official announcement? I mean, they wouldn't just let the info be leaked all over the internet if it were true and not do anything about it right?

I dunno, I just have a feeling if the list was dead-on Apple would come out with a more official announcement with the same specs because it really wouldn't matter if it were some big secret anymore. I also feel that if people are going to get really excited over a list that isn't official then be prepared for a bit of a let down when it doesn't include all of these new features.

[iphun]

Ok, so here's another angle to look at it.

Pre announced today with release date and price.

A pretty big rumor from a blog arises that sounds reasonable but sketchy.

If the rumor was true, wouldn't Apple have to come out then and give an official announcement? I mean, they wouldn't just let the info be leaked all over the internet if it were true and not do anything about it right?

I dunno, I just have a feeling if the list was dead-on Apple would come out with a more official announcement with the same specs because it really wouldn't matter if it were some big secret anymore. I also feel that if people are going to get really excited over a list that isn't official then be prepared for a bit of a let down when it doesn't include all of these new features.

I don't think apple responds to rumors whether they be true or not, so even if it was dead on I don't think they would even acknowledge it. I also don't think we've ever had dead on specs on any apple product, some specs like casing and some other things yeah but not everything. Who knows maybe they will "close their eyes" :wink: and not see these rumors until maybe June 1st - 5th when they release a statement about them :wink:.

Lets hope they are mostly all correct and even if we have to wait till WWDC for them to announce it I think these are worth waiting a few more weeks to hear about them.

[Indy]

That's true iPhun. 19 more days! :D

[Indy]

Apple still negotiating terms for third-gen iPhone with carriers. http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/09/05/20/apple_still_negotiating_terms_for_third_gen_iphone _with_carriers.html

[evolution83]

These specifications sound nice but I won't hold my breath. If it does turn out to be true, I'll be selling my current model in exchange for a new one. :)

However, not sure how many people would still want a 3G

[seanwes]

However, not sure how many people would still want a 3G

Well if it can still be unlocked and the new one can't, there will still be a market for them. I'm hoping so anyway.

[Napoleon_PhoneApart]

Well if it can still be unlocked and the new one can't, there will still be a market for them. I'm hoping so anyway.

Same here. I'm glad I have the 5.08 bootloader so I can roll back from 3.0 beta and still unlock my iPhone.

[Indy]

More magnetometer news for ya! :D http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/09/05/20/japans_asahi_kasei_to_supply_magnetometer_for_next _gen_iphone.html

[seanwes]

Same here. I'm glad I have the 5.08 bootloader so I can roll back from 3.0 beta and still unlock my iPhone.

Yeah, my bootloader got upgraded. I'm gonna have to buy a sim unlock for it when i sell it or something. The difference in selling price between unlocked and locked iphones is about $100.

[Napoleon_PhoneApart]

Yeah, my bootloader got upgraded.

Upgraded? When did you buy your 3G? Did you buy it new?

[iphun]

If the rumor was true, wouldn't Apple have to come out then and give an official announcement? I mean, they wouldn't just let the info be leaked all over the internet if it were true and not do anything about it right?

I dunno, I just have a feeling if the list was dead-on Apple would come out with a more official announcement with the same specs because it really wouldn't matter if it were some big secret anymore. I also feel that if people are going to get really excited over a list that isn't official then be prepared for a bit of a let down when it doesn't include all of these new features.

Ok now another thing that happened recently was that apple required OS X 10.6 Snow leopard videos on youtube to be removed for copyright reasons, so if the iphone specs were dead on wouldn't apple do something about it? Now several news reports aren't as easy and quiet to cover up like one youtube video. Maybe we need to make a video with all these specs and someone photo shop a phone with the rubberized back to see if they require us to remove it :laugh2:.

Also in the story about new OS X 10.6 features here (http://www.geek.com/articles/chips/5-cool-snow-leopard-features-that-apple-doesnt-want-you-to-see-yet-20090520/) they have a 'Publish Movie to iTunes' feature and the screen shot of it looks to me that the iphone has a larger screen, but it is hard to tell I think there's less space between the screen and the top. It just looks a little different to me, idk.
http://www.geek.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/quicktime-x-itunes-export-options.png

[psylichon]

I no longer believe they will continue to sell the 3G alongside the new iPhone. Too much stock depletion going on right now. Also I previously predicted that the new iPhone will start at 16GB, but now I'm thinking Charlie 1, Charlie 2, & Charlie 3 are all iPhone HDs at 8gb, 16gb, & 32gb sizes. I don't think they're gonna be able to squeeze in any more memory at this release.

[iphun]

I no longer believe they will continue to sell the 3G alongside the new iPhone. Too much stock depletion going on right now. Also I previously predicted that the new iPhone will start at 16GB, but now I'm thinking Charlie 1, Charlie 2, & Charlie 3 are all iPhone HDs at 8gb, 16gb, & 32gb sizes. I don't think they're gonna be able to squeeze in any more memory at this release.

They definitely won't sell the current 3g alongside the new one, they are currently trying to get rid of them all so they shouldn't. And if the case is updated they wouldn't sell an older case alongside the new one, let alone with all the new insides(well until they completely sell out). I was thinking they would have a 16gb black only and 32gb with two colors, just like they sell them now. They seem to try to eliminate the smaller version with every update or refresh, they didn't even wait for the 3g to phase out the 4gb V1.

[amendolaro]

nice!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[psylichon]

I was thinking they would have a 16gb black only and 32gb with two colors, just like they sell them now. They seem to try to eliminate the smaller version with every update or refresh, they didn't even wait for the 3g to phase out the 4gb V1.

Oh, very good point there. I'm with you. 8GB would be quite limiting for HD video, I think. :2cool:

[amendolaro]

we should b able 2 trade phone in and pay xtra for an upgrade :)

[evolution83]

All I know is that IF one does come out, I'll be mad. I mean, people who generally come to buy something new always get screwed when an even better model comes out a few months later.

An early upgrade option would be nice!

[acosmichippo]

i fail to see how you're "getting screwed"... your current iphone will continue to work just fine. When you purchase a cellular phone that has been in the market for 8+ months, you should be wary of the possibility that a new one could be on the horizon.

[Indy]

i fail to see how you're "getting screwed"... your current iphone will continue to work just fine. When you purchase a cellular phone that has been in the market for 8+ months, you should be wary of the possibility that a new one could be on the horizon.

Sad, but true (and exciting :laugh2:) how the cell phone world works. Hell, doesn't RIM, HTC and Samsung have a new phone out nearly every 3 months it seems? It's like as soon as you buy the newest version of one of those you can count on next week an article of the next, 'better', version right around the corner.

I'm glad Apple doesn't update that often. Ya know why dontcha? Because they don't HAVE to! The iPhone has set everthing into such a frenzy that every other manufacturer keeps trying to one up them! They're like "that one didn't work", "ok let's try this one!"..."nope"..."ok, what about THIS one, this will surely work!"..."nope"..."DOH!", "D@MN these Apple folk to hell!" >=/ Grrrrr


:tounge:

[Indy]

Job listings popping up for nextNEXTgen iPhone? :tounge:

http://www.macrumors.com/2009/05/21/apple-job-listing-reveals-more-powerful-arm-processors-and-video-processing-for-iphone/

A recent Apple job listing (http://www.macrumors.com/c.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fjobs.apple.com%2Findex.ajs%3F BID%3D1%26method%3DmExternal.showJob%26RID%3D34691 %26CurrentPage%3D6&t=1242899102) that we just discovered reveals that Apple is looking for a low level iPhone programmer with detailed knowledge of the ARM processor including its NEON vector unit.
The successful candidate will have excellent understanding and knowledge of processor architecture, specifically ARM and its vector unit NEON. Additional Intel SSE or PowerPC AltiVec is also very helpful. Being able to use processor micro-architecture to write and deliver fast routines is an essential attribute.
NEON is an extended instruction set similar to Intel's SSE or PowerPC's AltiVec which can accelerate multimedia applications. What's interesting is that NEON is the marketing term (http://www.macrumors.com/c.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.arm.com%2Fproducts%2Fmult imedia%2Fneon%2Findex.html&t=1242899102) for the most recent version of these extensions specifically for the ARMv7 Cortex processors. Apple presently uses the ARMv6 processor in the iPhone and iPod Touch which does not appear to offer NEON. The obvious reason for Apple to be seeking a programmer with this expertise is that they must be optimizing the iPhone OS for the new Cortex processors.

We've previously speculated (http://www.macrumors.com/2009/01/08/new-multi-core-iphone-with-firmware-3-0/) that the Cortex processor would be the most likely candidate to power the next generation iPhone. The Cortex is also capable of multi-core variants (http://www.macrumors.com/2009/02/16/first-multi-core-mobile-platform-demonstrated/) though its not entirely clear how soon these will be commercially available. Palm's Pre (http://www.macrumors.com/2009/05/19/palm-pre-to-launch-june-6th-priced-at-199-99/) is also based on a version of the Cortex processor. The presence of these sort of extensions could also be leveraged to provide users with faster/better multimedia functions including the rumored (http://www.macrumors.com/2009/05/01/next-iphone-to-easily-record-edit-and-share-movies/) video recording, processing and editing capabilities.

In fact, another job listing (http://www.macrumors.com/c.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fjobs.apple.com%2Findex.ajs%3F BID%3D1%26method%3DmExternal.showJob%26RID%3D34902 %26CurrentPage%3D1&t=1242899102) reveals that Apple is also hiring for someone to deliver "cutting edge embedded video processing". They are specifically looking for someone with experience in real-time media and networking applications over Wi-Fi and cellular networks which would suggest an iPhone implementation. Obviously, all of these listings reflect unfilled jobs but can provide a hint into what Apple is presently working on.

Ok, so if I wait another....that's how many days?....j/k:tounge:

[Indy]

Job listings popping up for nextNEXTgen iPhone? :tounge:

http://www.macrumors.com/2009/05/21/apple-job-listing-reveals-more-powerful-arm-processors-and-video-processing-for-iphone/

A recent Apple job listing (http://www.macrumors.com/c.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fjobs.apple.com%2Findex.ajs%3F BID%3D1%26method%3DmExternal.showJob%26RID%3D34691 %26CurrentPage%3D6&t=1242899102) that we just discovered reveals that Apple is looking for a low level iPhone programmer with detailed knowledge of the ARM processor including its NEON vector unit.
The successful candidate will have excellent understanding and knowledge of processor architecture, specifically ARM and its vector unit NEON. Additional Intel SSE or PowerPC AltiVec is also very helpful. Being able to use processor micro-architecture to write and deliver fast routines is an essential attribute.
NEON is an extended instruction set similar to Intel's SSE or PowerPC's AltiVec which can accelerate multimedia applications. What's interesting is that NEON is the marketing term (http://www.macrumors.com/c.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.arm.com%2Fproducts%2Fmult imedia%2Fneon%2Findex.html&t=1242899102) for the most recent version of these extensions specifically for the ARMv7 Cortex processors. Apple presently uses the ARMv6 processor in the iPhone and iPod Touch which does not appear to offer NEON. The obvious reason for Apple to be seeking a programmer with this expertise is that they must be optimizing the iPhone OS for the new Cortex processors.

We've previously speculated (http://www.macrumors.com/2009/01/08/new-multi-core-iphone-with-firmware-3-0/) that the Cortex processor would be the most likely candidate to power the next generation iPhone. The Cortex is also capable of multi-core variants (http://www.macrumors.com/2009/02/16/first-multi-core-mobile-platform-demonstrated/) though its not entirely clear how soon these will be commercially available. Palm's Pre (http://www.macrumors.com/2009/05/19/palm-pre-to-launch-june-6th-priced-at-199-99/) is also based on a version of the Cortex processor. The presence of these sort of extensions could also be leveraged to provide users with faster/better multimedia functions including the rumored (http://www.macrumors.com/2009/05/01/next-iphone-to-easily-record-edit-and-share-movies/) video recording, processing and editing capabilities.

In fact, another job listing (http://www.macrumors.com/c.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fjobs.apple.com%2Findex.ajs%3F BID%3D1%26method%3DmExternal.showJob%26RID%3D34902 %26CurrentPage%3D1&t=1242899102) reveals that Apple is also hiring for someone to deliver "cutting edge embedded video processing". They are specifically looking for someone with experience in real-time media and networking applications over Wi-Fi and cellular networks which would suggest an iPhone implementation. Obviously, all of these listings reflect unfilled jobs but can provide a hint into what Apple is presently working on.

Ok, so if I wait another....that's how many days?....j/k:tounge:

Well, wait a minute, here's the job title from Apple:

Job description The Vector & Numerics team (http://developer.apple.com/hardwaredrivers/ve/index.html (http://developer.apple.com/hardwaredrivers/ve/index.html)) is tasked with designing, enhancing and improving various subsystems running on iPhone OS. The group is looking for an exceptional high performance programmer to complement the team, and make a difference.

The successful candidate will have excellent understanding and knowledge of processor architecture, specifically ARM and its vector unit NEON. Additional Intel SSE or PowerPC AltiVec is also very helpful. Being able to use processor micro-architecture to write and deliver fast routines is an essential attribute.

Hand tuning of image processing, along with a track record of delivering work on specified deadlines is required.

Low level performance programming experience is a must for this position. Track record of writing the fastest possible code using ARM NEON or Intel SSE or PowrePC AltiVec is essential.

Working knowledge of the IEEE-754-2008 Numerics standards would be very beneficial.

Responsibilities

• Design and implement optimized pieces of Mac OS X’s Image Processing subsystem.
• Performance analysis and optimization using established methods.
• Working with cross functional teams in image related components.


Skills, Education and Experience Required

• Detailed knowledge of vector Instruction Set Architectures (ISA) of ARM.
• Strong code optimization background making direct use of a processor ISA.
• PhD or MS in Computer science or equivalent experience.
• Highly professional, with the ability of on time delivery of solid work on tight schedules.
• Demonstrated creative and critical thinking capabilities.
• Self motivated, independent and pro-active.

Keywords

iPhone OS, MacOS, ARM NEON, Vector Programming, High performance programming, Encryption, Optimization, Image Processing.


The job is for working on the iPhone OS correct? So that means what? It could be for the nextGeniPhone supposedly coming July 17th couldn't it? The job isn't for improving hardware but software through experience of certain hardware.

hmmmm. :gasp:

[iphun]

Job listings popping up for nextNEXTgen iPhone? :tounge:

http://www.macrumors.com/2009/05/21/apple-job-listing-reveals-more-powerful-arm-processors-and-video-processing-for-iphone/

A recent Apple job listing (http://www.macrumors.com/c.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fjobs.apple.com%2Findex.ajs%3F BID%3D1%26method%3DmExternal.showJob%26RID%3D34691 %26CurrentPage%3D6&t=1242899102) that we just discovered reveals that Apple is looking for a low level iPhone programmer with detailed knowledge of the ARM processor including its NEON vector unit.
The successful candidate will have excellent understanding and knowledge of processor architecture, specifically ARM and its vector unit NEON. Additional Intel SSE or PowerPC AltiVec is also very helpful. Being able to use processor micro-architecture to write and deliver fast routines is an essential attribute.
NEON is an extended instruction set similar to Intel's SSE or PowerPC's AltiVec which can accelerate multimedia applications. What's interesting is that NEON is the marketing term (http://www.macrumors.com/c.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.arm.com%2Fproducts%2Fmult imedia%2Fneon%2Findex.html&t=1242899102) for the most recent version of these extensions specifically for the ARMv7 Cortex processors. Apple presently uses the ARMv6 processor in the iPhone and iPod Touch which does not appear to offer NEON. The obvious reason for Apple to be seeking a programmer with this expertise is that they must be optimizing the iPhone OS for the new Cortex processors.

We've previously speculated (http://www.macrumors.com/2009/01/08/new-multi-core-iphone-with-firmware-3-0/) that the Cortex processor would be the most likely candidate to power the next generation iPhone. The Cortex is also capable of multi-core variants (http://www.macrumors.com/2009/02/16/first-multi-core-mobile-platform-demonstrated/) though its not entirely clear how soon these will be commercially available. Palm's Pre (http://www.macrumors.com/2009/05/19/palm-pre-to-launch-june-6th-priced-at-199-99/) is also based on a version of the Cortex processor. The presence of these sort of extensions could also be leveraged to provide users with faster/better multimedia functions including the rumored (http://www.macrumors.com/2009/05/01/next-iphone-to-easily-record-edit-and-share-movies/) video recording, processing and editing capabilities.

In fact, another job listing (http://www.macrumors.com/c.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fjobs.apple.com%2Findex.ajs%3F BID%3D1%26method%3DmExternal.showJob%26RID%3D34902 %26CurrentPage%3D1&t=1242899102) reveals that Apple is also hiring for someone to deliver "cutting edge embedded video processing". They are specifically looking for someone with experience in real-time media and networking applications over Wi-Fi and cellular networks which would suggest an iPhone implementation. Obviously, all of these listings reflect unfilled jobs but can provide a hint into what Apple is presently working on.

Ok, so if I wait another....that's how many days?....j/k:tounge:

I'm thinking next next gen, like next year because they have had interest in making their own processors so they can contain as many leaks as possible. As for the video processing, does that mean they will not release video recording this time around or they maybe won't include a mini version of iMovie in the iphone yet. Unless the video processing over wi-fi and cellular networks could have to do with the publish to mobile me or a future post to youtube.

[LuvKeane]

I no longer believe they will continue to sell the 3G alongside the new iPhone. Too much stock depletion going on right now. Also I previously predicted that the new iPhone will start at 16GB, but now I'm thinking Charlie 1, Charlie 2, & Charlie 3 are all iPhone HDs at 8gb, 16gb, & 32gb sizes. I don't think they're gonna be able to squeeze in any more memory at this release.
I dunno... when I went into an AT&T store the other day and asked what happened with the 3G came out, the 1st gen didn't go on sale or anything and they still got rid of them. I was out of the loop with my BB and had no desire to get an iPhone so I wasn't sure if the price was the same like the rumors are now because it will make it more difficult to sell the old ones for the same price, and half the space! Now, I honestly only need 8gb but if I can get a 16g for the same price with a better camera???

[evolution83]

i fail to see how you're "getting screwed"... your current iphone will continue to work just fine. When you purchase a cellular phone that has been in the market for 8+ months, you should be wary of the possibility that a new one could be on the horizon.

I know my phone will work, not what I meant.

It's like buying a new car. Say I go out and buy one today, then tomorrow an even better model comes out the following day that I wasn't told about by the dealer. When I return and ask about trading in my current model for the newer one, I'm denied because I'm not yet eligible because its too early for an upgrade.

Do you get my point?

If the rep knew about the newer model, I should have been suggested to wait.

[Europa]

You can avoid that by doing your own research. If a new model is coming out tomorrow, it will be well documented. You only have yourself to blame in that situation.

[seanwes]

Upgraded? When did you buy your 3G? Did you buy it new?

Sorry, was thinking baseband. I bet I used to have 5.8 bootloader though, but had to take phone in for repairs and got a refurb. Most likely has 5.9, but I installed 2.2.1 without thinking anyway.

[Indy]

*WARNING* Not Hardware related! But good news nonetheless. :D http://www.ilounge.com/index.php/mobile/news/att-confirms-cheaper-data-plan-discussions/ That is unless the lowest cost option is capped so bad its not worth it for your needs or wants.

[Hondamaker]

I know my phone will work, not what I meant.

It's like buying a new car. Say I go out and buy one today, then tomorrow an even better model comes out the following day that I wasn't told about by the dealer. The following day? Can you make up a more realistic scenario? A new iPhone comes around once a year, just like a new model of car. :tounge:

[Napoleon_PhoneApart]

Sorry, was thinking baseband. I bet I used to have 5.8 bootloader though, but had to take phone in for repairs and got a refurb. Most likely has 5.9, but I installed 2.2.1 without thinking anyway.

When did you swap it out? The bootloader is hard-coded into the logic board. I believe the 5.09 bootloader came out in January 2009.

[iphun]

*WARNING* Not Hardware related! But good news nonetheless. :D http://www.ilounge.com/index.php/mobile/news/att-confirms-cheaper-data-plan-discussions/ That is unless the lowest cost option is capped so bad its not worth it for your needs or wants.

I use so much data I have a feeling I would end up needing to keep the $30 unlimited one. They will take advantage of so many people with a limited plan who don't realize that the phone is connected all the time and any small thing uses data. I think if they want to lower something it should be the messaging plans, like 200 for free for each line would be a great selling point for at&t for someone that barely texts and just wants to send one every now and then, 1500 for $5, unlimited for one line $10, and for family unlimited $20. That would save everyone money and be very competitive against other carriers. This wouldn't cover just iphones it would be network wide and I think would make more people join their network. We all know texts cost them nothing so this wouldn't hurt them at all.

[seanwes]

When did you swap it out? The bootloader is hard-coded into the logic board. I believe the 5.09 bootloader came out in January 2009.

It's been since January.

[JWiPhone]

The rumor mill article on ***********. I take such things with a grain of salt, but this gives an overview of rumors. It is still kind of fun to read what might or might not be.

http://www.***********.com/3rd-generation-iphone/3rd-generation-iphone-rumors-2009/

[psylichon]

Nice avatar, JW :)

[Indy]

Read.

http://daringfireball.net/2009/05/the_next_iphone

Thank You.

:wink:

[JWiPhone]

Nice avatar, JW :)

Just some wishful thinking for the new iPhone to be HD :laugh2:

[JWiPhone]

Read.

http://daringfireball.net/2009/05/the_next_iphone

Thank You.

:wink:

Excellent article Indy. I think those are fairly accurate predictions, and upgrades that I would be very pleased with. I will look back on this article after WWDC and see just how accurate it was.

[Indy]

Excellent article Indy. I think those are fairly accurate predictions, and upgrades that I would be very pleased with.

No problem!

Yea, all of these rumors coming out lately seem to be coinciding with one another. I'm actually beginning to believe that some of them may be true! :tounge:

Oh and sorry for the quick post with that link with no real explanation, I was busy getting the little one ready for bed.

[iphun]

Here's more proof that a magnetometer will be in the next iphone

http://www.iphonefaq.org/archives/97544

This could show that a lot of the rumors about processing power, RAM, and HDD improvements are actually true. I think the hard drive is a given knowing how apple updates space in their other products frequently.

[psylichon]

Yea, all of these rumors coming out lately seem to be coinciding with one another.

The vision does seem to be coalescing rather early this time, isn't it? Did we know this much about the 3G the same time last year? I'm too lazy to look really. :tounge:

Anyway, I'd say there are at least half a dozen major features that we can all but consider confirmed at this point.

[iphun]

The vision does seem to be coalescing rather early this time, isn't it? Did we know this much about the 3G the same time last year? I'm too lazy to look really. :tounge:

Anyway, I'd say there are at least half a dozen major features that we can all but consider confirmed at this point.

I got the energy to look for when the case was leaked and the article I found was from May 1st last year, but haven't really looked much further than that. :laugh2: :tounge: Personally I think everyone is getting better at finding and leaking everything they can about the new iphone, soon apple won't be able to hide anything from us.

I think no matter what we will see many changes this time around whether they match what we found or not.

***I found a different link than I mentioned above and it was from late april with similar kinds of speculation, but all came true. Now the list this year is very detailed, so maybe we really are getting better at this.
http://www.engadget.com/2008/04/25/the-second-gen-iphone-3g-gps-only-slightly-thicker/

[JWiPhone]

Here's more proof that a magnetometer will be in the next iphone

http://www.iphonefaq.org/archives/97544

This could show that a lot of the rumors about processing power, RAM, and HDD improvements are actually true. I think the hard drive is a given knowing how apple updates space in their other products frequently.

Thanks for that link iPhun. I'm quite excited over the magnetometer because of the future implications, most notably augmented reality. It sounds like that is pretty much a confirmation for this next iPhone.

[Indy]

The vision does seem to be coalescing rather early this time, isn't it? Did we know this much about the 3G the same time last year? I'm too lazy to look really. :tounge:

Anyway, I'd say there are at least half a dozen major features that we can all but consider confirmed at this point.

Here's a blog I started once and just couldn't find time anymore to keep up with it. Figured it was easier to just start one big thread here with all my jumbled findings thrown in one place, along with others. :tounge:

http://safariphone.blogspot.com/2009/02/looking-backfor-future-reference.html

I pretty much covered everything that was news and rumors before the 3G launch. Apologies if it's hard to follow. :foot:

[iphun]

Thanks for that link iPhun. I'm quite excited over the magnetometer because of the future implications, most notably augmented reality. It sounds like that is pretty much a confirmation for this next iPhone.

Not a problem. I'm also interested in what ways (other than in maps) they could use the magnetometer, like maybe even some way in photos to go along with geotagging. It's apple they will come up with something we never thought of especially to be better than the G1 in this area. I just wish devs could pull even more stuff out of the software, but I doubt apple keeps extensive files on every feature for the next iphone :laugh2:

[JWiPhone]

Here's a blog I started once and just couldn't find time anymore to keep up with it. Figured it was easier to just start one big thread here with all my jumbled findings thrown in one place, along with others. :tounge:

http://safariphone.blogspot.com/2009/02/looking-backfor-future-reference.html

I pretty much covered everything that was news and rumors before the 3G launch. Apologies if it's hard to follow. :foot:


That is impressive Indy. That must have taken a lot of searching and organizing to put that all together. It was interesting to read through those 2007, 2008 rumors and see how much more accurate they became as the Day approached. I think in some ways we are seeing a similar pattern to the accuracy of rumors for the '09 iPhone.

[Phxblue]

This is a great thread guys, I guide my friends to it all the time who are into the iPhone. Keep up the good work.

[Indy]

I agree, this has become an awesome thread. I think we should keep it going through the years for each update. :D

[Indy]

32GB placeholder found on T-Mobile Austria. http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/22/32gb-iphone-placeholder-appears-at-t-mobile-austria/

[adnurahs]

As Long as the phone will be the same size and shape so i can use my army of Incase Slider's then I'm happy. All this other stuff is just icing on top of the cake! 32G Really!! Is it official!? I'm in! OMG I can't wait!!

Sorry I am just too happy about this today. I am counting down the days using the App Days Until. There are approximately 56 days until July 17th! And I can't wait!! This is too exciting!!

[iNinja]

Notice sent out pointing out that the Iphone 3g 16gb is now end of line stock... could this mean that Apple will release the 32gb iphone HD and leave its 8GB for the price concious?!

http://www.mactalk.com.au/2009/05/22/rumour-16gb-iphone-declared-end-of-life-by-vodafone-brightpoint/

[Indy]

New prediction: Current 8GB stays, $99; New 16GB and 32GB models released at the $199 & $299 pricepoint; Current 16GB depleted being replace by improved model. Thoughts?

[iNinja]

New prediction: Current 8GB stays, $99; New 16GB and 32GB models released at the $199 & $299 pricepoint; Current 16GB depleted being replace by improved model. Thoughts?

Sounds reasonable, only question is, if the bestbuy stock list is to be believed, 3 new models will be released. If the 2 new models are 16gb HD and 32gb HD, that means only 1 of the models can have 2 colours?

Or does the stock list only list models, and not colour variences?

[Indy]

That's a very good question Croucher. I'll have to ask that question in the 'Project Charlie' thread over on the Best Buy forums when I get home. I can't do it from this stinkin phone for some reason. =/ The member 'Nokia' over there may actually know something about that.

[adnurahs]

New prediction: Current 8GB stays, $99; New 16GB and 32GB models released at the $199 & $299 pricepoint; Current 16GB depleted being replace by improved model. Thoughts?

Indy, do you have any idea, like a guestimate on how much this full discount they say I have will be. Do you think this means I get the $299 price point? You can see below, I copied it from my AT&T page, they say I can get this full discount on 7/16/09 the day before the phone is supposed to come out. I will go on Friday anyhow, but I want to know if I get to pay the $299 and not $400 or $500.



iPhone Upgrade
You can take advantage of our no commitment pricing. Additional discounts may be available on 07/16/2009


iPhone Upgrade
As a valued AT&T customer, we can offer you a discounted iPhone upgrade at a higher price, along with a 2-year commitment and an $18 upgrade fee. Please proceed with the online upgrade process for pricing details. You may qualify for a full discount on a standard iPhone upgrade on 07/16/2009




It would be great if i could get it at the $299 price point but I think that is only for new folks or something. Please clear this up for me if you can.

Thanx Indy or anyone who has a handle on what AT&T is talking about!

[iphun]

32GB placeholder found on T-Mobile Austria. http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/22/32gb-iphone-placeholder-appears-at-t-mobile-austria/
This is great news and hard evidence of a 32 GB model. Also it was removed from the site, I just checked it and it's gone.
New prediction: Current 8GB stays, $99; New 16GB and 32GB models released at the $199 & $299 pricepoint; Current 16GB depleted being replace by improved model. Thoughts?

That sounds good, I'm fine with that.

@Croucher I bet the 8GB model will stay in the current SKU and won't be a 'Project Charlie' they'll just get rid of the current 16GB and it's SKU and keep the 8GB (if that's what they are going to do). Inventory only holds information of curent and future products, they wouldn't have anything on there about if one is being removed or not. It just gets removed when it is out of stock and they remove it. I think the three models will be what Indy says and the 32GB model will come in 2 colors, 16GB black and 32GB black or white which adds up to the three 'Project Charlies'

[Indy]

AT&T also running out of iPhones. http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/09/05/22/att_also_running_dry_of_iphones_offering_refurbs.h tml

[evolution83]

I'm ready for the new phone. I can shell out a couple hundred if needed then sell my current model. It's in perfect condition without a single scratch or damage! :)

[iphun]

AT&T also running out of iPhones. http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/09/05/22/att_also_running_dry_of_iphones_offering_refurbs.h tml

They were starting to run out of stock in late march last year, but that doesn't really mean anything, all that it means is apple adjusted the time to start selling them at a lower cost and with free shipping so they didn't run out so early. Also does best buy get the phones at the same time as the apple and at&t stores or a few weeks after?

[Napoleon_PhoneApart]

Were they out of stock this early last year? If they weren't maybe that means we will be seeing the iphone in June instead of July. Also does best buy get the phones at the same time as the apple and at&t stores or a few weeks after?

For what it's worth, the user Nokia on the Best Buy Forum stated that the "Charlie" units had an in-stock date of July 1.

[iphun]

For what it's worth, the user Nokia on the Best Buy Forum stated that the "Charlie" units had an in-stock date of July 1.

Yeah that's why I was asking when BB gets them because if they get them a few weeks after apple and at&t stores then that could mean we will see the next iphone in June. Or do they need them the 1st so they can train for support of the new features. Not that these features should be extremely hard for anyone to need 16 days to play with, especially best buy wireless reps who should have good knowledge of cell phones. 16 days also gives a lot of time for one or a few of the many BB employees to leak photos and specs.

[gogoplata1980]

I would love it if the new iPhone came out on July 1st or(egads!) earlier!

[Napoleon_PhoneApart]

WIFI movie and TV downloads coming for the new iPhone? :

http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/09/05/22/iphone_rumored_to_get_wireless_movie_tv_downloads. html

[iphun]

WIFI movie and TV downloads coming for the new iPhone? :

http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/09/05/22/iphone_rumored_to_get_wireless_movie_tv_downloads. html

I was thinking of posting this, but you beat me to it :tounge: Maybe we would be able to download over the network if 3.5g is in the new iphone, but it would only be on the new one. Being able to download movies or tv shows without connecting to your computer would be great and another add another competitive edge to the iphone.

[koredfish]

AT&T also running out of iPhones. http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/09/05/22/att_also_running_dry_of_iphones_offering_refurbs.h tml


Indy.....what part of Bama are you from? I live in Fairhope, Alabama born and bred.

[evolution83]

WIFI movie and TV downloads coming for the new iPhone? :

http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/09/05/22/iphone_rumored_to_get_wireless_movie_tv_downloads. html

Oh, how our world is revolved around technology, watching TV, drinking alcohol, overeating and getting fat.

w00t :2cool:

[JWiPhone]

for those iphone users and those getting the new iPhone here are some magic tricks for the iPhone. They are free. Some are pretty neat. Others I don't care much for. These are not apps, so you just download the ones you want as zip files, and load them on iTunes. Instructions are on the site.

http://dothehudson.net/en/touch-trix/index.html

[Indy]

@koredfish. I'm in Homewood. Lived here for the last 15 years. Born up north, raised in the south. ;) FairHope. Isn't that around Mobile?

[Indy]

WIFI movie and TV downloads coming for the new iPhone? :

http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/09/05/22/iphone_rumored_to_get_wireless_movie_tv_downloads. html

Man, how awesome would that be!? :laugh2:

[iphun]

Man, how awesome would that be!? :laugh2:

Just some more backing up of the specs posted a few days ago:

http://arstechnica.com/apple/news/2009/05/iphone-hardware-details-and-predictions-continue-to-multiply.ars

[iphun]

And what the current infineon chipset would allow apple to put into the new iphone:

"Infineon is currently capable of equipping the iPhone with HSDPA/HSUPA (7.2/2.9 Mbps) support, integrated high-end video accelerator for H.263, H.264, VC-1 and WMV9, playback/recording/streaming of D1/VGA video content, up to 5-megapixel camera, display support up to WVGA, integrated ISP and JPEG hardware acceleration, HW security, LP-DDR1 and NAND flash support as well as UBS high speed OTG.

Last year's iPhone 3G is using a chipset that is capable of HSDPA 3.6Mbps, recording and playback functionality of QVGA video, ability to connect a 2-megapixel camera as well as HW security, LP-DDR1 and NAND flash support."

http://www.infosyncworld.com/news/n/10289.html

[Indy]

Anyone willing to trade in their 32GB iPhone for a Blackberry? .... that's right, I said 32GB. :D http://www.phonearena.com/htmls/BlackBerry-Bold-trade-up-program-hints-at-new-iPhone-article-a_5158.html

[psylichon]

32GB
3.2MP camera
Video
Faster processor
More memory
New case back (probably grippy)


I consider all these things a shoe-in at this point unless the rumor mill is horribly corrupted. And this is great, because these are all I need to inspire me to upgrade. Everything else is icing on the cake for me.

I think I'm talking the wife into an upgrade as well. She has horrible Edge coverage in her building and no wifi... poor lass needs some real connectivity.

[iphun]

Anyone willing to trade in their 32GB iPhone for a Blackberry? .... that's right, I said 32GB. :D http://www.phonearena.com/htmls/BlackBerry-Bold-trade-up-program-hints-at-new-iPhone-article-a_5158.html

This is the second time the 32GB was accidentally posted by a cell phone company. Just yesterday there was the t-mobile Austria leak about a 'coming soon' 32GB iphone on their website. Does at&t expect people to want to trade in their 3rd gen iphone so soon? Anyway I think we can assume by these leaks and normal apple upgrades that 32GB is in the next iphone :smile: