NextGeniPhone: Predictions on New Hardware & Release Dates.

[iHuman]

http://www.macrumors.com/2009/04/07/iphone-video-recording-interface-digital-compass-voice-control-and-auto-focus-camera/

Very cool!

[Ezekiel2517]

http://www.macrumors.com/2009/04/07/iphone-video-recording-interface-digital-compass-voice-control-and-auto-focus-camera/

Very cool!

ok... i didnt want to believe it, but now i do. apple is going to release a new phone this summer. this was the final piece of evidence i needed...

[Indy]

New screenshot of iPhone video menu, plus auto-focus, compass and voice control. Yes! http://www.macrumors.com/2009/04/07/iphone-video-recording-interface-digital-compass-voice-control-and-auto-focus-camera/

[iHuman]

New screenshot of iPhone video menu, plus auto-focus, compass and voice control. Yes! http://www.macrumors.com/2009/04/07/iphone-video-recording-interface-digital-compass-voice-control-and-auto-focus-camera/


indy, I think you and I live on MacRumors... look above :tounge:

[Indy]

Whoops! Forgot to refresh! LMAO! Thanks for the links! :D

[iHuman]

Whoops! Forgot to refresh! LMAO! Thanks for the links! :D

No worries, I catch myself with 2-3 EIC pages open at once sometimes... too often actually

[Indy]

Haha, yea, I do all this from my sk3 and service is real spotty at times, therefore I can't refresh as often as I like. :D Exciting news though! :)

[monkeysrock0622]

Ezekial, why didn't you believe that Apple would release a new phone this summer? everyone else seemed to think so and its pretty reasonable considering the evidence we've seen and the fact that thy released iPhones the last 2 summers.

[psylichon]

http://images.macrumors.com/article/2009/04/07/081242-cameramr.jpg


^^^^^^^^^
That's the most exciting screenshot I've seen yet. Saaaaweeeeeet!

[Ezekiel2517]

Ezekial, why didn't you believe that Apple would release a new phone this summer? everyone else seemed to think so and its pretty reasonable considering the evidence we've seen and the fact that thy released iPhones the last 2 summers.

maybe it was just me and i didn't want to believe it because i didn't want to have to upgrade again. but as more rumors started pouring in and all this "evidence" was uncovered, it started to seem more and more likely. i know i was probably alone in being the only one that didn't want to beleive, but now i guess theres really no denying a new phone.

at least it will have video recording, and that was really the main reason i ever jailbroke. so i may even go stock if i get the new one. well... maybe not stock, but there wont be as much of a reason for me to.

[Indy]

@psylichon Isn't it beeeeeeautiful?! :D

[JWiPhone]

Wow! Some exciting times around the corner for all of us potential new iPhone users. The magnetometer looks interesting. I can see it having GPS benefits by improving accuracy, and the iPhone will be aware of its state, such as being tilted and direction it is facing. It would be able to actually 'sense' how you hold your iPhone. I can only imagine the applications developers could use this for.

[JWiPhone]

I guess for those of us without an iPhone we will have to settle for this until the new iPhone comes out this Summer.

http://www.etsy.com/view_listing.php?ref=vt_related_1&listing_id=23350076

[iHuman]

Wow! Some exciting times around the corner for all of us potential new iPhone users. The magnetometer looks interesting. I can see it having GPS benefits by improving accuracy, and the iPhone will be aware of its state, such as being tilted and direction it is facing. It would be able to 'sense' these states. I can only imagine the applications developers could use this for.


Much like hiking GPS that can be set to true/magnetic north or heading. Just the simple Google Maps program could rotate with the user looking at the screen, always orienting to direction of travel.

I'd use this for geocaching and hiking, but I actually enjoy turning the phone off for a few days while I am out... maybe if I get lost I'll use it :laugh2:

[Indy]

I'm stoked! :D

[Indy]

More screenshots from BGR. Sorry couldn't post actual pics from this phone. Someone hook us up! :D http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2009/04/07/exclusive-apple-iphone-30-screenshots-leak-out/

[Youngbinks]

Oh nice, an option for showing battery percentage (without Jailbreaking), yes please.

[psylichon]

Someone hook us up! :D http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2009/04/07/exclusive-apple-iphone-30-screenshots-leak-out/


http://www.boygeniusreport.com/wp-content/uploads/apple3shots2.jpg
http://www.boygeniusreport.com/wp-content/uploads/apple3shots1.jpg
http://www.boygeniusreport.com/wp-content/uploads/apple3shots3.jpg
http://www.boygeniusreport.com/wp-content/uploads/apple3shots4.jpg
http://www.boygeniusreport.com/wp-content/uploads/apple3shots5.jpg

[Ezekiel2517]

http://www.boygeniusreport.com/wp-content/uploads/apple3shots2.jpg


see how it has the photos and videos in the same app, i guess they're integrating both together like they're doing with the camera.

im sure they can still call the camera app, camera. but they might change the name and icon of the photos app to reflect that it also stores videos. maybe media or something like that?

[Hondamaker]

see how it has the photos and videos in the same app, i guess they're integrating both together like they're doing with the camera.

im sure they can still call the camera app, camera. but they might change the name and icon of the photos app to reflect that it also stores videos. maybe media or something like that?Media would be a good name for the app/icon. I freakin can't freakin wait! Good bye jailbreaking....

[kevlar08]

its starting to heat up, cant wait for the next discovery

[monkeysrock0622]

You can't really call it media because that also can include music.

[acosmichippo]

they should call it "s*** that you look at".

[psylichon]

Theater?.....

[kevlar08]

why can't they just leave it camera?

[Hondamaker]

Ok, camera it is.

[iNinja]

OMG - serves me right for not checking this thread yesterday!! those screenshots are just filthy p*rn!! i cant wait! the only dissapointing thing was the thought that video recording was only for the new hardware and not backward compatible. I suppose that fits with a camera upgrade!

[Indy]

Video-In & Magnetometers Could Introduce Interesting iPhone App Possibilities. http://www.macrumors.com/2009/04/08/video-in-and-magnetometers-could-introduce-interesting-iphone-app-possibilites/ Interesting. :)

[Indy]

NextNext(Next)GeniPhone. :D Just to keep these in mind for next years hype. LoL. "Intel demos Moorestown, intros 2GHz Atom" http://www.electronista.com/articles/09/04/08/intel.moorestown.demo/

[Indy]

New iPhone parts begin shipping from suppliers for June launch? http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/08/new-iphone-parts-begin-shipping-from-suppliers-for-june-launch/

[adnurahs]

Indy and everyone I just want to take this time to thank you so much for all this great information.

I am starting to save my money now. I just can't wait to get the full details of the exact phones available and how much they will be. Chances are, I will get the high end one. I just have to have my budget plan in place.

Whew my head is swimming with all this info. Dag on, you don't log in for a day let alone a few hours and BAM!!

Thank you everyone!

Keep it coming!

[Indy]

You're welcome! :) And we still have 61 days until WWDC. This thread is gonna exceed 100 pages by then! Information OVERLOAD!!! LOL. :D

[Phxblue]

All the iPhone needs now is some tires and wheels and it will truely be an all in one device. "Honey, ima gas up the iPhone and go for a drive to the Apple store.."

[JWiPhone]

I think with the new applications on the horizon, and the new magnetometer feature along with upgraded hardware, 'augmented reality' will revolutionize mobile devices such as the iPhone. I see so many applications being utilized from gaming, tourism, architecture, medical, real estate, retail, etc. What is so exciting about this is that augmented reality will overlay the cyberworld onto our 3 dimensional real world.

Check out this application for the iPhone. It is pretty amazing.

http://jaxinteractive.com/2009/01/10/augmented-reality-iphone-app/

[Indy]

More analyst speculation...http://apple20.blogs.fortune.cnn.com/2009/04/08/apple-building-5-6-million-new-iphones-analyst/ ;)

[Lincoln]

http://kttns.org/zeyzw

....

[psylichon]

I know, Linc, I can't keep up with Indy either. ;)

[Indy]

I think with the new applications on the horizon, and the new magnetometer feature along with upgraded hardware, 'augmented reality' will revolutionize mobile devices such as the iPhone. I see so many applications being utilized from gaming, tourism, architecture, medical, real estate, retail, etc. What is so exciting about this is that augmented reality will overlay the cyberworld onto our 3 dimensional real world.

Check out this application for the iPhone. It is pretty amazing.

http://jaxinteractive.com/2009/01/10/augmented-reality-iphone-app/

That's awesome!

Man, I bet their arms were hurting from holding the iPhone up all day at the end of that shoot. :tounge:

And check out the girls laughing at him right around 2:23. :tounge: You have to admit you would look at someone strangely if you saw them holding their phone up walking around everywhere they went.....but I wouldn't really care who was looking at me.:foot:

[psylichon]

you would look at someone strangely if you saw them holding their phone up walking around everywhere they went.....but I wouldn't really care who was looking at me.:foot:

I would simply tag them for later identification/annihilation.

[Indy]

http://kttns.org/zeyzw

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Haha, Linc buddy, I was staring at this shot for another 2 or 3 minutes trying to figure out what I had missed the first time. :tounge:

I know, Linc, I can't keep up with Indy either. ;)

Kick back and relaaaax, we got this. :wink:

[Indy]

I would simply tag them for later identification/annihilation.

Hahaha.....that's just scary. iStalker 1.0 Apps on the way. :gasp:

[monkeysrock0622]

Ummmm I don't get the whole Lincoln/screenshot thing.....it might just be because I'm tired but can someone explain that for me? Lol

[psylichon]

Nothing new... Linc posted an old screenshot and received an appropriate ribbing for it. :)

[monkeysrock0622]

Ohhhhh haha I see.

[kevlar08]

More analyst speculation...http://apple20.blogs.fortune.cnn.com/2009/04/08/apple-building-5-6-million-new-iphones-analyst/ ;)

good find seems like the two price point rumor is getting more and more evidence

[acosmichippo]

it may be old, but i think the implication with the phrasing here is that the app will still be called "Camera". What remains to be seen is that they'll call the new version of the "Photos" app. THAT will have to change.

http://img.skitch.com/20090409-kbxuuqy46ws12nmmgprdqh6phw.png

[psylichon]

I don't think the question is about the Camera. Whether it does stills or video, that should remain the camera. I think we're guessing on what the "photo/video/media" viewer will be called.

[kevlar08]

it may be old, but i think the implication with the phrasing here is that the app will still be called "Camera". What remains to be seen is that they'll call the new version of the "Photos" app. THAT will have to change.

http://img.skitch.com/20090409-kbxuuqy46ws12nmmgprdqh6phw.png

if video is really to have editing features i wouldn't be surprised to see it have its own app icon

[acosmichippo]

it clearly doesn't. That's the app right there /\ /\ /\.

[kevlar08]

it clearly doesn't. That's the app right there /\ /\ /\.

but i see no editing options, maybe because there is no video but i assume something like an imovie for iphone would have a separate app

[psylichon]

Well with a phone that can record still photos, videos, audio, and stream internet media, someone better get hopping on an all-in-one browser. I'm looking at you, Apple.

[bulls6pack]

With Two Months to Go, iPhone 3 Rumors Get Hotter



http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3398/3424376742_b4f387d764_o.jpg

http://www.fastcompany.com/blog/kit-eaton/technomix/two-months-go-new-iphone-rumors-get-hotter

[monkeysrock0622]

psylichon, what do you mean by "all-in-one browser" ?

[psylichon]

A single media player that can do music, recorded audio, photos, movies... maybe integrate youtube and other internet content. It would be nice.

Imagine if you could use the audio recorder to annotate photos and videos on the fly, and they would show up chronologically right next to them in the "camera roll"

This is why the "camera roll" needs a whole new system. And name.

[spud]

just stepping in to register.

oh and im glad i held out from going to GEN 2 b/c i want a 32GB Iphone.

cheers to all the folks updating this thread. :)

[Indy]

Thanks for the link Bull, that will make for a good read through lunch break. ;)

[Indy]

@spud Cheers mate! Apple depriving the rest of world of nand flash! Ok so someone that knows the difference between Giga"BIT" and Giga"BYTE", please explain. This makes no sense to me. http://www.digitimes.com/news/a20090409PD219/nand_flash_supply_to_tighten_after_apple_reportedl y_places_large_order.html *Meh =/

[kevlar08]

A single media player that can do music, recorded audio, photos, movies... maybe integrate youtube and other internet content. It would be nice.

Imagine if you could use the audio recorder to annotate photos and videos on the fly, and they would show up chronologically right next to them in the "camera roll"

This is why the "camera roll" needs a whole new system. And name.

i agree the camera roll def needs a change, id like to be able to name and same the name of all my pictures along with all the features you listed

[acosmichippo]

@spud Cheers mate! Apple depriving the rest of world of nand flash! Ok so someone that knows the difference between Giga"BIT" and Giga"BYTE", please explain. This makes no sense to me. http://www.digitimes.com/news/a20090409PD219/nand_flash_supply_to_tighten_after_apple_reportedl y_places_large_order.html *Meh =/

a bit is one binary digit (ie one 0 or one 1), and a Byte is 8 Bits in a row (ie 0010 1101).

A Gigabyte is roughly a billion bytes, and a Gigabit is roughly a billion bits. So, similarly, a gigabyte is 8x the size of a gigabit.

It is important to note their abbreviations, too. a Gigabit is abbreviated as Gb, and Gigabyte as GB. However, you must be wary, because some people are not keen to this distinction (even supposedly learned tech journalists or bloggers). Sometimes you have to just tell from context what they really mean. Typically when we're talking storage space, we're talking in terms of Bytes, and when the discussion is about network speeds, it is in terms of Bits.

[monkeysrock0622]

Apple Insider is reporting that the huge order for NAND chips was for 100 million 8 gigabit chips not 8 gigabyte chips.

http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/09/04/09/apple_places_unusual_flash_memory_order.html

[acosmichippo]

Yeah, that seems likely. It is kinda silly that they refer to them as 8-gigabit chips, though. As we all know now, 8 gigabits = 1 gigabyte, which (I think) is a more common way to describe storage space.

If apple really is only ordering 1GB chips, it seems unlikely they'd be able to fit 32 into an iPhone for 32GB total... I guess we'll just have to wait and see.

[Youngbinks]

Ugh. If there's not at least 32 GB in the next model at release, I won't be buying it until there is.

[psylichon]

Guys, Apple makes shuffles with 1GB chips, so perhaps this order isn't for the iPhone.

[acosmichippo]

you think they're expecting to sell 100 million shuffles? or anything else for that matter?

*EDIT*

actually, the shuffle is only 4GB now, and it is all on one high-density chip now according to the aforementioned site.

So i don't know what to make of this.

[psylichon]

[shrug] I just don't see 16 or 32 1Mbit chips being much use for an iPhone, for both the space and power-consumption factors.

[acosmichippo]

i agree. the appleinsider link monkey posted speculates that perhaps these chips are to be assembled into higher-density chips OR they're for an entirely new low-budget, low-storage device.

[originalg00kster]

hey guys havent been on here for a while due to the fact that my contract ends this 28th andddddd i dont want to be thinking about it so much haha. but i guess the june release is really legit than? or what? guys got any info on that for me.

[kevlar08]

hey guys havent been on here for a while due to the fact that my contract ends this 28th andddddd i dont want to be thinking about it so much haha. but i guess the june release is really legit than? or what? guys got any info on that for me.

not yet officially announced, but yea enough evidence to lead everybody to agree there will be a new iphone

[spud]

Ugh. If there's not at least 32 GB in the next model at release, I won't be buying it until there is.



^^ what he said.

[Indy]

Unibody iPhone...someday? :gasp:

http://www.macnn.com/blogs/2009/04/09/patent-brief-apple-thinks-unibody-ipod-classic-beyond.html

"According to Apple’s patent, the term “electronic device” can include, but is not limited to, music players, video players, still image players, game players, other media players, music recorders, video recorders, cameras, other media recorders, radios, medical equipment, domestic appliances, transportation vehicle instruments, calculators, cellular telephones, other wireless communication devices, personal digital assistants, programmable remote controls, pagers, laptop computers, desktop computers, printers, and combinations thereof. In some cases, the electronic device may perform a single function (e.g., a device dedicated to playing music) and, in other cases, the electronic device may perform multiple functions (e.g., a device that plays music, displays video, stores pictures, and receives and transmits telephone calls)."

[kevlar08]

Unibody iPhone...someday? :gasp:

http://www.macnn.com/blogs/2009/04/09/patent-brief-apple-thinks-unibody-ipod-classic-beyond.html

"According to Apple’s patent, the term “electronic device” can include, but is not limited to, music players, video players, still image players, game players, other media players, music recorders, video recorders, cameras, other media recorders, radios, medical equipment, domestic appliances, transportation vehicle instruments, calculators, cellular telephones, other wireless communication devices, personal digital assistants, programmable remote controls, pagers, laptop computers, desktop computers, printers, and combinations thereof. In some cases, the electronic device may perform a single function (e.g., a device dedicated to playing music) and, in other cases, the electronic device may perform multiple functions (e.g., a device that plays music, displays video, stores pictures, and receives and transmits telephone calls)."

id like to see a unibody iphone

[Indy]

Next iPhone needs a new brain...

http://www.forbes.com/2009/04/09/apple-iphone-rumors-technology-personal-tech-apple.html

http://www.macdailynews.com/index.php/weblog/comments/forbes_apples_iphone_needs_a_new_brain/

"There are several possible solutions. Samsung (http://www.macdailynews.com/index.php/weblog/comments/forbes_apples_iphone_needs_a_new_brain/#) could build a new processor around the same ARM Cortex-A8 architecture TI uses, or Apple could switch to TI, Strauss suggests. Alternatively, Apple could build a processor of its own, presumably one based on the ARM-architecture, with the chip designers it picked up last year with its acquisition of PA Semi," Caulfield writes."


"There are no signs that Apple is doing that--yet. Then again, if Apple were, it would likely keep such a move a very tightly guarded secret, because it would be the only information about its new phone that would really matter."

Well,.....yea! No sh@t sherlock! :tounge:

[Phxblue]

More rumors via Phonedog.com..

"More news on the iPhone Nano front - except this time, it seems to have some credibility to it. Chinese newspaper Commercial Times reports that handset component suppliers are shipping the parts necessary for a new iPhone, placing the potential launch date in the typical June timeframe. What's more, the suppliers went on to say that old and new iPhones could top 2 and 3 million units, respectively, by the quarter after the launch of the new device.

Additionally, rumor has it that Apple has ordered 100 million 8GB NAND chips, which is the main component for the device's internal memory. In regard to physical features, other rumors list the device as having a 3.2 megapixel camera, an FM transmitter, and video recording options.

Will Apple make a formal product announcement prior to launch? My guess is not - though they did this with the first iPhone, any sort of announcement would dramatically hurt sales of the iPhone 3G across all channels. With their entry into Best Buy and Walmart, I would venture to say that Apple wants iPhone 3G sales to be strong for as long as possible."

[Indy]

More rumors via Phonedog.com..

"More news on the iPhone Nano front - except this time, it seems to have some credibility to it. Chinese newspaper Commercial Times reports that handset component suppliers are shipping the parts necessary for a new iPhone, placing the potential launch date in the typical June timeframe. What's more, the suppliers went on to say that old and new iPhones could top 2 and 3 million units, respectively, by the quarter after the launch of the new device.

Additionally, rumor has it that Apple has ordered 100 million 8GB NAND chips, which is the main component for the device's internal memory. In regard to physical features, other rumors list the device as having a 3.2 megapixel camera, an FM transmitter, and video recording options.

Will Apple make a formal product announcement prior to launch? My guess is not - though they did this with the first iPhone, any sort of announcement would dramatically hurt sales of the iPhone 3G across all channels. With their entry into Best Buy and Walmart, I would venture to say that Apple wants iPhone 3G sales to be strong for as long as possible."

I think this guy is confused. Just looks like he's running behind on updating his news site and jumbled all the news from the last couple weeks together real quick. He says 8"GigaByte" when it's been clearly uncovered that the report was talking about 100 million 8"Gigabit" chips. Besides, what does all of that have to do with a iPhone "nano" at all?!

I think PhoneDog slipped up on this one. IMO.

[originalg00kster]

okay lets say this new iphone does come out? what are the prices we are looking at? 200 dollar deal with new 2 year contract? or are we talking more? what do you guys think?

[monkeysrock0622]

I don't think any prices have been rumored....(at least I don't remember any)

[Indy]

I'm not going to post the pictures here because I think they will be way to big but check out these concepts, post #1 and then revised in post #20. The one in #20 looks pretty sharp I must admit. :laugh2:

http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=683647

[monkeysrock0622]

Yah that one looks awesome. I'd buy it. I like the notification light in the square of the home button. If it also faded in and out like the MacBook light that would be amazing.

[Youngbinks]

I was thinking the same thing Josh. The green/red light would be awesome.

[acosmichippo]

don't get your hopes up. it's only christmas once a year.

[kevlar08]

I'm not going to post the pictures here because I think they will be way to big but check out these concepts, post #1 and then revised in post #20. The one in #20 looks pretty sharp I must admit. :laugh2:

http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=683647

must admit it is a nice concept, even if it is lacking the slide out touch screen im crossing my fingers for haha

[acosmichippo]

terrible if you ask me.

the designer's english is even worse.

[up10ad]

A notification light needs to be on the top edge where it can be seen when in a case on a belt clip (for those that still do that). IMHO, a light on the home button isn't much use since you can't see it in a case. I like the icon-status notifications that tell what app is notifying you (phone, mail, mms, etc) and give a count.

[acosmichippo]

I still don't think apple will put any lights on an iPhone anytime soon... But if they do, it will be as subtle as possible (like the white power LEDs on MacBooks).

Yes, I realize I just said "white power".

[seanwes]

Didn't we have leaked case designs for the 3G back before it was released/announced? Have there been no new case designs leaked out for this year's supposed model?

Do you think the new iPhone will be a different form-factor, therefore requiring a case redesign, or would they be so kind as to keep it where our current 3G cases will fit?

[kevlar08]

Didn't we have leaked case designs for the 3G back before it was released/announced? Have there been no new case designs leaked out for this year's supposed model?

Do you think the new iPhone will be a different form-factor, therefore requiring a case redesign, or would they be so kind as to keep it where our current 3G cases will fit?

i want a change in the new iphone, im starting to get board of this design

[Indy]

Didn't we have leaked case designs for the 3G back before it was released/announced? Have there been no new case designs leaked out for this year's supposed model?

Do you think the new iPhone will be a different form-factor, therefore requiring a case redesign, or would they be so kind as to keep it where our current 3G cases will fit?

If it is different, we should start seeing those pop up sometime around May.

[monkeysrock0622]

I don't think it will be much different. Most likely a different material and/or different shape of the back. I doubt they will do something like a flip or slider. Those add too much bulk plus they try not to make anything with moving parts.

[joe]

I still don't think apple will put any lights on an iPhone anytime soon... But if they do, it will be as subtle as possible (like the white power LEDs on MacBooks).

Yes, I realize I just said "white power".

I would think more like the status light on the Airport Express (http://support.apple.com/kb/HT2610) and Time Capsule.

[Hondamaker]

I don't think it will be much different. Most likely a different material and/or different shape of the back. I doubt they will do something like a flip or slider. Those add too much bulk plus they try not to make anything with moving parts.Man, I would love to see an aluminum body, much like the new macbooks. Now that would be class.

[monkeysrock0622]

Yah I would love an aluminum unibody iPhone. I really want a red iPhone too :tounge:

[Indy]

Will the iPhone have a better processor? (YES)

9to5mac hits on a story from Forbes about a week old but puts their mind to work on why they think the possibilities are favorable for this next gen iPhone most are hoping for to up the ante on the processor.

Here's a little bit from that article...

http://www.9to5mac.com/iphone-arm-cortex-a8

"1. The TI OMAP 3430 chip that is in the Pre is a very quick chip. That is why the Pre has the horsepower to do all of that fancy multitasking you see in all of those videos (http://www.9to5mac.com/plm-pre-multitasking-video). It has about double the horsepower of Apple's current Samsung and can use less power (see why Apple should be changing?). It is also in a few other hot new devices like the Open Pandora (http://openpandora.org/) and the Archos phone (http://blog.laptopmag.com/archos-goes-3g-with-archos-5-and-archos-7-internet-media-tablets).

2. Samsung's ARM Cortex A8 S5PC100 (http://www.samsung.com/global/business/semiconductor/support/brochures/downloads/systemlsi/s5pc100_brochure_200902.pdf) followup to their iPhone chip (schematic pictured above). This would be the easiest migration route and would require the least amout of low level code changes. It looks to be on roughly the same level as the TI OMAP 3430. Also, Apple buys lots of Flash from Samsung so their partnership is already strong.

3. Apple/PA Semi could be building their own chip. After all, this is what Jobs said they bought the company for. It will still likely be based on an ARM Cortex architecture and, like all of these other chips (except NVIDIA - which have their own hard-core GPU), work with Imagination's multi-core GPU. (http://www.9to5mac.com/imagination-tablet-apple)

4. Macrumors said (http://www.macrumors.com/2009/03/23/next-generation-iphone-7-2mbit-video-camera-more/) they've heard claims that the Marvell PXA168 ARM XScale (http://www.macrumors.com/c.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.marvell.com%2Ffeatured%2F pxa168.jsp&t=1239507981) chip is going to be the next iPhone chip. While this is kind of a wild card (Intel sold the XScale technology used to build the ARM processor to Marvell in 2006 for $600 million), Apple has been known to do some interesting things.

5. NVidia, Apple's partner on DisplayPort technology on its new Mac line as well as OpenCL partner, has an incredible ARM line called Tegra. Their chips have been shown to run head to head with Intel's Atoms at multiples less power usage. These chips are rumored to be entering Netbooks running Ubuntu and Android shortly. Apple invests in and loves Imaginations GPU chips so it is unlikely that they would use NVIDIA's."

Happy Easter everyone! :wink:

[iphun]

Only problem with an aluminum body is that they have problems with the cellular and wifi signals strength. That's the only reason they made the 3g plastic. I think if they could get it to work I would like it since that is a better look for the phone and wouldn't crack ever.

[Indy]

4 Million New iPhones ordered by Apple.

http://www.macrumors.com/2009/04/13/apple-ordered-4-million-new-iphones-for-q2-2009/

"According to its insider news, Apple has already ordered 4 million units of new iPhones and expected to receive the shipment by end of this quarter. These iPhones might be a combination of 3 new models, with one only supports EDGE wireless data connection, another one for 3G wireless data connection and one model made for China market (for China’s TD-SCDMA network?). There will not be iPhone Nano and the new iPhone 2009 will be similar to the current iPhone 3G, according to the report.

China Times had may have somewhat accurately predicted (http://www.macrumors.com/2006/11/15/hon-hai-receives-iphone-contract/) the original iPhone's production in 2007. The possibility of multiple versions of the next iPhone has been raised (http://www.macrumors.com/2009/03/31/32gb-high-end-iphone-and-a-low-end-version-in-works/) in an earlier analyst report with the possibility of a high-end and low-end model."

[monkeysrock0622]

4 Million New iPhones ordered by Apple.

http://www.macrumors.com/2009/04/13/apple-ordered-4-million-new-iphones-for-q2-2009/

"According to its insider news, Apple has already ordered 4 million units of new iPhones and expected to receive the shipment by end of this quarter. These iPhones might be a combination of 3 new models, with one only supports EDGE wireless data connection, another one for 3G wireless data connection and one model made for China market (for China’s TD-SCDMA network?). There will not be iPhone Nano and the new iPhone 2009 will be similar to the current iPhone 3G, according to the report.

China Times had may have somewhat accurately predicted (http://www.macrumors.com/2006/11/15/hon-hai-receives-iphone-contract/) the original iPhone's production in 2007. The possibility of multiple versions of the next iPhone has been raised (http://www.macrumors.com/2009/03/31/32gb-high-end-iphone-and-a-low-end-version-in-works/) in an earlier analyst report with the possibility of a high-end and low-end model."
I was just about to post that Indy haha. It doesnt sound good to me...only 4 million iPhones for 2 different models, some not even going to the US. I sense a shortage coming along. :foot:

[Hondamaker]

Only problem with an aluminum body is that they have problems with the cellular and wifi signals strength. That's the only reason they made the 3g plastic. I think if they could get it to work I would like it since that is a better look for the phone and wouldn't crack ever.Doesn't the RAZR have an aluminum body? I never had any reception problems with it.

[adnurahs]

Yeah. I'm hoping for a more sturdier body. I switched my phone out on February 13th (the 3G chip was fried and there were sparks coming out of the headphone jack. The switch out before that was in October because of the cracks near the silent switch and the volume switch) On April 10th I noticed that I have the same stress cracks on this phone like my first one. I am not going to switch this one out again. I'd rather wait until the new one comes out and just get the new one. I can live with it. I had stress cracks in the first one for a few months before I had to turn it in because the cracks were starting to meet.

I think it'll be some time before these start to meet.

So a metal case, would be great for me.

I'll just be glad to get something. Judging from the shipment of 4Mil mentioned above, that might not be enough. I hope they do like last launch and replenish nightly at the stores. We'll see.

Thanx for the report guys.

[iphun]

Doesn't the RAZR have an aluminum body? I never had any reception problems with it.

I just remember somewhere reading or hearing that the plastic would allow the 3g signal to transmit better, but if apple wanted to they could use the metal to their advantage and have it act as a big antenna booster. I like the look and the durability of aluminum so I would like to see it.

[iHuman]

i agree. the appleinsider link monkey posted speculates that perhaps these chips are to be assembled into higher-density chips OR they're for an entirely new low-budget, low-storage device.

Could these chips be assembled for the processor/ram, and not for storage of media?

[Indy]

Apple flash memory order pointing to 32gb iPhone? http://www.electronista.com/articles/09/04/13/32gb.iphones.guaranteed/

[iHuman]

That clears up my question. Thanks!

[JWiPhone]

I will post this here as well. This is an iPhone podcast where the latest developments with the iPhone is discussed. It has been around for a few years but I just discovered it. So, if you are an iPhone enthusiast and can't get enough news about the iPhone go check it out. A lot of what they discuss though is pretty much what I have read here and on sites such as MacRumors, AppleInsider, or Ars Technica.

http://tii.libsyn.com/

[Indy]

I will post this here as well. This is an iPhone podcast where the latest developments with the iPhone is discussed. It has been around for a few years but I just discovered it. So, if you are an iPhone enthusiast and can't get enough news about the iPhone go check it out. A lot of what they discuss though is pretty much what I have read here and on sites such as MacRumors, AppleInsider, or Ars Technica.

http://tii.libsyn.com/

That's cool JWiPhone. 'Today in iPhone' is one of my favorite iPhone podcast. The guy just gives it to ya straight, the only problem I have with it is that he sometimes lags behind a couple weeks but catches up on all the news.

But yea I agree, most podcast about the iPhone are just recapping everything we already know. It's still fun sometimes to listen to their take on news and rumors though, something like an audible forum in a way. :tounge:

Here's some other podcasts related to iPhone news you all may want to check out sometime.


iPhone Alley Podcast
MacOS Ken - Great up-to-the-minute short podcast for listening to on the way to work. Usually 10-15 minutes but he hits on all the latest rumors from the day before and even some from the morning of when I think he actually does the podcast! One a day. All mac related.
MacBreak Weekly - Leo and friends discuss everything Mac and are usually slightly behind on new by the time it actually comes to you. But it's a fun show nonetheless and loooong. They do tend to play around to much sometimes though and get off subject easily, sort of frustrating sometimes, hehe.
MacCast - Another everything Mac podcast and a really good show actually. Stays on topic, its a pretty long show and you can skip through different sections of the podcast which is divided up according to news and stories. I usually only listen to the iPhone stuff, but this guy really does a great job all-around if you're an uber-Machead.
Phone Different Podcast - the people from theiphoneblog.com site doing a podcast. I was off these guys for a little while because they really weren't telling me anything I wanted to hear. But on a recent show they did a really fine job of discussing next gen iPhone news and rumors in a round-up fashion and it was enjoyable to hear what their thoughts were. Exciting show again.
The Cell Phone Junkie - Only for the Extreme cell phone geek (that'd be me, yea I know, still rockin the sk, but SO!) :tounge:. If you wanna know what's coming out in general and hear some really in depth discussion on cell phones in general, Mickey and Joey run an excellent show. And if you like them check out their other podcast as well, the cell phone junkie unlocked.
So those are a few I listen to on a weekly basis. Sometimes I can go days without hearing a podcast though since there is so much breaking news stories on the net, so sometimes it's pointless to listen to a whole show to hear everything you already know all over again.

[JWiPhone]

That's cool JWiPhone. 'Today in iPhone' is one of my favorite iPhone podcast. The guy just gives it to ya straight, the only problem I have with it is that he sometimes lags behind a couple weeks but catches up on all the news.

So those are a few I listen to on a weekly basis. Sometimes I can go days without hearing a podcast though since there is so much breaking news stories on the net, so sometimes it's pointless to listen to a whole show to hear everything you already know all over again.


Thank you Indy. I will have to make a note of these and check them out. There is just so much out there and not enough time in the day peruse it all. That is why I kind of narrow my interest to the iPhone. But I do welcome the iPhone competition because it will only keep Apple on their toes and make the iPhone evolve all that much more.

[Indy]

TSMC and subsidiaries to benefit from launch of next-generation iPhone.

http://www.digitimes.com/news/a20090414PD219.html

"TSMC have landed foundry orders for GSM EDGE power amplifiers, Bluetooth ICs and 3.2-megapixel OmniVision CMOS image sensor (CIS) used in the upcoming iPhone model, indicated the sources. Xintec will handle the packaging and testing service for the CIS whereas VisEra will manufacture on-chip color filters for the CIS.

The so-called "iPhone 3.0" reportedly will be launched by mid-2009, the sources claimed. Assembly suppliers will kick off shipments for the upcoming model starting from May, with the first batch estimated to be around five million units, the sources said."

[Indy]

New "Mock-up" out..

http://www.9to5mac.com/unibody-iPhone

http://9to5mac.com/files/image/00000/iPhone-Pro-sexy-concept-01.jpg (http://9to5mac.com/unibody-iPhone)

[Indy]

Are these the companies inside the next iPhone?

http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/14/are-these-the-companies-inside-the-next-iphone/

http://www.blogcdn.com/www.engadget.com/media/2009/04/apple-iphone-supplier-grid-20090414-468.jpg (http://www.digitimes.com/news/a20090414PD219.html)

[iNinja]

New "Mock-up" out..

http://www.9to5mac.com/unibody-iPhone

http://9to5mac.com/files/image/00000/iPhone-Pro-sexy-concept-01.jpg (http://9to5mac.com/unibody-iPhone)

That looks awesome. The only things i would say about it is that i can never see Apple having a removable battery in the Iphone. Hope im wrong though, and also, cant see the power button being moved from the top!

[Ezekiel2517]

New "Mock-up" out..

http://www.9to5mac.com/unibody-iPhone

http://9to5mac.com/files/image/00000/iPhone-Pro-sexy-concept-01.jpg (http://9to5mac.com/unibody-iPhone)

am i the only one that actually likes the plastic instead of aluminum? unless its black-colored aluminum, then id be fine with it. but i dont ever see apple doing that.

[Napoleon_PhoneApart]

I don't mind the plastic back at all.

[iHuman]

I have never had an issue with the non-removable battery thing, and since Apple just did the same for their 17" MacBook Pro, I think they will keep the battery built in to save space. I dig the mock-up, if that is what it looks like, it will go great with my macbook!

[unnecessary]

New "Mock-up" out..

http://www.9to5mac.com/unibody-iPhone

http://9to5mac.com/files/image/00000/iPhone-Pro-sexy-concept-01.jpg (http://9to5mac.com/unibody-iPhone)

looks like a bad photoshop job

[seanwes]

looks like a bad photoshop job

It's a mock-up. It is photoshopped concept.

[acosmichippo]

i like it.

but there won't be a removable battery.

[JWiPhone]

It's not too bad looking but looks like it would be a bit too uncomfortable to hold.

[psylichon]

I don't think it's going to get more angular. Maybe one or two new ridge lines or something, but the same basic shape that we have now with the 3G I reckon.

[acosmichippo]

idunno... i wouldn't be surprised if it is more in the fashion of the new macbooks. i hope it is.

but i wouldn't be surprised if it isn't either.

[psylichon]

Well that's an easy stance to get behind. I'm with ya there.

[acosmichippo]

what is this thing supposed to be? sim card slot?

http://img.skitch.com/20090415-1jjurm65bthk3xqt2uuec5g17c.png

[psylichon]

...Shaver?

[acosmichippo]

or maybe the coffee filter holder...

[seanwes]

what is this thing supposed to be? sim card slot?

http://img.skitch.com/20090415-1jjurm65bthk3xqt2uuec5g17c.png
I believe that's the "removable battery". Someone correct me if I'm wrong.

[iphun]

I believe that's the "removable battery". Someone correct me if I'm wrong.

No the removable battery is on the back view, look a little below the "32 GB" and you will see three bumps for the battery cover.

[bulls6pack]

I believe that's the "removable battery". Someone correct me if I'm wrong.

No I think its a slot to hold change.

[monkeysrock0622]

It could be a micro SD card slot for extra memory....

[unnecessary]

It could be a micro SD card slot for extra memory....


or it is just a completely fake picture

[monkeysrock0622]

I know its fake but its supposed to be a mock up of what the next iPhone could look like and they're not going to put a random box on there unless it had some kind of function

[unnecessary]

I know its fake but its supposed to be a mock up of what the next iPhone could look like and they're not going to put a random box on there unless it had some kind of function


Its a fake photoshop all together. Only person who put a box there is the person who had a dream and put it there.

[acosmichippo]

so...?........

[monkeysrock0622]

I know....so if they had a dream to put everything they wanted, why would they out something that has no purpose? What I'm saying is that whoever made this Photoshop wanted extra (removable) memory so they put a slot on the side.

[firewire]

I know....so if they had a dream to put everything they wanted, why would they out something that has no purpose? What I'm saying is that whoever made this Photoshop wanted extra (removable) memory so they put a slot on the side.
Most likely, but remember, with fakes there is no logic required when creating the pics.

[Indy]

True Firewire, any one of could have sketched this up.

[Indy]

If iPhone3 continues to use Samsung processors this could be the next one. Check it out.

http://www.9to5mac.com/iphone-3-S5PC100

I havnet read it, cause I'm d runk on fordham helles lager...,seheesh

"With regard to the [iPhone] processor, I see Samsung have rather QUIETLY released a Cortex A8 App Processor , the S5PC100. Doing a google returns a grand total of 10 hits. There has been no press release for the product that I can find, and none of the tech websites have discussed it. It is not listed AT ALL under the app processor section of their website:-
http://www.samsung.com/global/busine...Processor.html (http://www.samsung.com/global/business/semiconductor/products/mobilesoc/Products_ApplicationProcessor.html)
However there is a brochure available:-
http://www.samsung.com/global/busine...ure_200902.pdf (http://www.samsung.com/global/business/semiconductor/support/brochures/downloads/systemlsi/s5pc100_brochure_200902.pdf)
Its clocked at 833Mhz, the brochure states 720P playback and record, and a 2D/3D graphics block is shown. There is no other mention whatsoever about the capabilities of the 2D/3D block. [Also HDMI out]
Arm have started to use this processor as a comparision point for Moorestown:-
http://media.corporate-ir.net/media_...DevCon2008.pdf (http://media.corporate-ir.net/media_files/irol/19/197211/presentations/ARMDevCon2008.pdf) See page 24.
I find that highly interesting, as of course Intel had at one time targetted the next gen iphone as a killer product for moorestown.
I hear also that there is another variant called the S5PC110, with gets a grand total of 1 hits when googled. Note that samsung never published ANY data on the MBX-ed processor used in the iphone. I think that if the processor in the next gen is samsung, this could be the likely candidate, a customised version with SGX graphics core. The one caveat is that there is no hint or information as to how long this processor has been available. The samsung brochure is dated Feb '09, the ARM .PDF however is dated Oct '08 which references chip size and both operational and standby power times."

[Indy]

Apple Researching Movement-Aware Interfaces for iPhones, Depicts Front-Facing Video Camera.

http://www.macrumors.com/2009/04/16/apple-researching-movement-aware-interfaces-for-iphones/

"Apple has been conducting ongoing research into how to further improve their mobile device interfaces as evidenced by a couple of patent applications published over the past couple of weeks. Two different patent applications reveal a couple of different approaches to movement-aware interfaces found on portable devices..."

http://images.macrumors.com/article/2009/04/16/045834-movement.jpg

"In this example, they enlarge the size of each contact in response to the detection of motion. Similar user interface adjustments to the iPhone's home screen could be made as well to improve accuracy during activity..."

"Update: As one reader points out (http://forums.macrumors.com/showpost.php?p=7471395&postcount=8), the patent diagram also depicts a front-facing video camera on the front side of the device (labeled 180). A front facing camera could allow video-chat capabilities in future iPhones..."


http://images.macrumors.com/article/2009/04/16/052814-accel.jpg
Pretty cool. :2cool:

[acosmichippo]

Why do they assume that's a camera? Could be anything...

[seanwes]

Why do they assume that's a camera? Could be anything...

A quote from the link (http://forums.macrumors.com/showpost.php?p=7471395&postcount=8) Indy posted:

The mobile device 100 can also include a camera lens and sensor 180. In some implementations, the camera lens and sensor 180 can be located on the back surface of the mobile device 100. The camera can capture still images and/or video.

[Phxblue]

2 days without a post in this thread?? What the hell is going on around here?!

[monkeysrock0622]

2 days without a post in this thread?? What the hell is going on around here?!
Its the weekend. Its always slower on the weekend, this one just happens to be a bit slower.

[Phxblue]

Is it Monday yet?

[FlyersPhanatic9]

Nope, still Sunday.
Flyers today!

[Hondamaker]

Nope, still Sunday.
Flyers today!
The Dayton Flyers?

[jafundy]

What;s the latest belief about MMS? I had V1 and left because no MMS. My kids send lots of MMS. Would love to come back.

[FlyersPhanatic9]

The Dayton Flyers?
Philadelphia

[Phxblue]

What;s the latest belief about MMS? I had V1 and left because no MMS. My kids send lots of MMS. Would love to come back.

MMS will be working on the 3G model with software 3.0 coming out this summer. Apple "says" no MMS on the first phone due to hardware limitations.

[Indy]

I love how they try and slip one by us on Sunday's...here's a lil bone to chew on for the rest of the night. Enjoy! :tounge:

"Apple has advised Apple Authorized Resellers to begin placing on clearance both the Apple Composite AV Cable and Apple Component AV Cable. PhoneNews.com has learned that Apple will be consolidating these cables, ahead of the launch of the next iPhone.

Both current cables were not well received by the public. The cables first added encryption chips, which (upon the release of iPhone OS 2.0) made it impossible to use other, cheaper AV cables with Apple’s most advanced mobile devices (iPhone and iPod touch). In addition, many were unhappy that the Apple Component AV Cable did not support composite output, forcing customers to pay over $100 for the ability to output to both HDTV and SDTV displays.

Apple will remedy this with a cable, which is known simply as the Apple AV Cable. The cable will function similar to the Xbox 360 Component AV Cable. The consolidated cable will support both component and composite output, allowing users to plug in to both HDTV and SDTV displays without the need for multiple cables.

The reason that Apple is doing this has been confirmed by PhoneNews.com. The next generation of iPhone and iPod touch will make broad and sweeping changes to HD display capacity on the devices. First, Apple will likely offer at least one version of the iPhone and one version of iPod touch with an even higher resolution screen, targeting both Microsoft’s Zune HD, as well as HTC’s Touch HD and Touch Pro2."

Read on for the full article...

http://www.phonenews.com/apple-consolidating-av-cables-ahead-of-iphone-hd-launch-7648/

iPhone HD sounds good to me! :laugh2:

[Phxblue]

Nice one Indy. Im starting to think you are Steve Jobs himself....

[Indy]

Nice one Indy. Im starting to think you are Steve Jobs himself....

Sssshhhhhh....

http://podbrix.com/dimages/1209444693_4t.jpg (http://podbrix.com/itemdetails.php?PID=1209444693&prodshot=4)










:tounge:

[monkeysrock0622]

I love how they try and slip one by us on Sunday's...here's a lil bone to chew on for the rest of the night. Enjoy! :tounge:

"Apple has advised Apple Authorized Resellers to begin placing on clearance both the Apple Composite AV Cable and Apple Component AV Cable. PhoneNews.com has learned that Apple will be consolidating these cables, ahead of the launch of the next iPhone.

Both current cables were not well received by the public. The cables first added encryption chips, which (upon the release of iPhone OS 2.0) made it impossible to use other, cheaper AV cables with Apple’s most advanced mobile devices (iPhone and iPod touch). In addition, many were unhappy that the Apple Component AV Cable did not support composite output, forcing customers to pay over $100 for the ability to output to both HDTV and SDTV displays.

Apple will remedy this with a cable, which is known simply as the Apple AV Cable. The cable will function similar to the Xbox 360 Component AV Cable. The consolidated cable will support both component and composite output, allowing users to plug in to both HDTV and SDTV displays without the need for multiple cables.

The reason that Apple is doing this has been confirmed by PhoneNews.com. The next generation of iPhone and iPod touch will make broad and sweeping changes to HD display capacity on the devices. First, Apple will likely offer at least one version of the iPhone and one version of iPod touch with an even higher resolution screen, targeting both Microsoft’s Zune HD, as well as HTC’s Touch HD and Touch Pro2."

Read on for the full article...

http://www.phonenews.com/apple-consolidating-av-cables-ahead-of-iphone-hd-launch-7648/

iPhone HD sounds good to me! :laugh2:
Makes sense to me. In a world where HD TVs are becoming a common household item, people are going to want to show their friends a new HD tv show or movie that they bought.

[Indy]

Makes sense to me. In a world where HD TVs are becoming a common household item, people are going to want to show their friends a new HD tv show or movie that they bought.

Yup. Exactly what I was thinking. :2cool:

[psylichon]

I'm tellin' ya, if the new iPhone can do video, it will do 720p in quality. It's all coming together...

[Phxblue]

This is all well and great. But my patience sucks and the HTC Magic aka G2 is looking REAL GOOD. Especially with them chrome buttons just like another phone... Seriously though how do you all cope. I am a major tech junkie stuck on a 3G less Edge only phone and it SUCKS! I am sooo tempted to get a 3G but I would be screwing myself over.

4790

[Indy]

AT&T doubling 3G capacity. http://telephonyonline.com/wireless/news/att-3g-network-capacity-increase-0420/ :)

[seanwes]

AT&T doubling 3G capacity. http://telephonyonline.com/wireless/news/att-3g-network-capacity-increase-0420/ :)

Thanks for that Indy. Anyone else thinking that with AT&T 3G possibly going to 21 Mbps later this year that video calling may not be so far fetched? :gasp:

[JWiPhone]

A new industry report from mobile analytics firm Flurry (http://www.flurry.com/) reveals some unique insights into the smartphone industry as of right now. Because their firm focuses not just on iPhone, but also on Android, RIM Blackberry, and JavaME, they have the ability to see platform-spanning trends, instead of just those tied to Apple. So what can we learn from their deep dive into their company's data? Anything surprising? Actually, what the report confirms is what we've been hearing for some time now: the iPhone is king, smartphones are the new laptops, and iPhone applications can and do make money.

Perhaps what's most surprising about Flurry's report isn't simply how prevalent and popular the iPhone and iPhone applications are today, but how far ahead it is of its nearest competitors...iPhone has a commanding lead.

http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/the_state_of_the_smartphone_iphone_is_way_way_ahea .php

[psylichon]

Yeah nothing surprising there. After many years of palm and winmo and symbian smartphones being out there, my mother is now considering purchasing an iPhone. Apple finally brought the smartphone into its own.

[Napoleon_PhoneApart]

Yeah nothing surprising there. After many years of palm and winmo and symbian smartphones being out there, my mother is now considering purchasing an iPhone. Apple finally brought the smartphone into its own.

While stuffing crap into my body at Wendy's this afternoon, I came across this article in today's USA Today:

http://www.usatoday.com/news/health/weightloss/2009-04-19-chris-burns_N.htm

How ironic.

[acosmichippo]

A new industry report from mobile analytics firm Flurry (http://www.flurry.com/) reveals some unique insights into the smartphone industry as of right now. Because their firm focuses not just on iPhone, but also on Android, RIM Blackberry, and JavaME, they have the ability to see platform-spanning trends, instead of just those tied to Apple. So what can we learn from their deep dive into their company's data? Anything surprising? Actually, what the report confirms is what we've been hearing for some time now: the iPhone is king, smartphones are the new laptops, and iPhone applications can and do make money.

Perhaps what's most surprising about Flurry's report isn't simply how prevalent and popular the iPhone and iPhone applications are today, but how far ahead it is of its nearest competitors...iPhone has a commanding lead.

http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/the_state_of_the_smartphone_iphone_is_way_way_ahea .php


I'd take that article with a grain of salt. Of course iphone is king, but...

http://img.skitch.com/20090421-8hydncfd2new6imwx8dd4mhqqt.png

...0% of 8 million consumers have blackberries? that is WAY off.

[iPhoneMonster]

So when do you all think it will hit? I think it could be Summer of '09 around WWDC. And I guess I have more of a "Wish List" than simple "Predictions" :tounge:

Release Date Prediction (subject to change, of course):

WWDC 2009

Upgrades:

More Ram and Faster CPU

Larger Screen (Bigger is always better imho, screen only not phone size)

Longer Lasting Battery (Removable? yea right)

More Storage (32gb/64gb)

3-5mp camera with flash

Front Facing Camera (For recording video of yourself/ possible video conf.)

More Bluetooth Compatibility

Better Shell Casing (Carbon Fiber Anyone?)

Higher Resolution Screen (HD?)

Louder Speakers (Just because I've heard some folks mention it :wink:)

More Pages Available For Apps (Maybe a grid system scrolling up/down?)

That's about it for now.

Thanks. :laugh2:

Good list. I think aluminum is more plausible than Carbon fiber. Also apparently in 3.0 there are already more pages for apps and that's to do with software not hardware.

[JWiPhone]

I'd take that article with a grain of salt. Of course iphone is king, but...

...0% of 8 million consumers have blackberries? that is WAY off.


ReadWriteWeb citing data from mobile analytics firm Flurry. ReadWriteWeb cautions that Flurry's data is based on developers that use its tracking software. Few BlackBerry developers so far do, but that itself is a red flag, a Flurry analyst suggests.

http://www.usnews.com/blogs/daves-download/2009/4/1/blackberry-opens-its-app-store-with-some-bumps.html

[acosmichippo]

right. then they shouldn't have said this:

Because their firm focuses not just on iPhone, but also on Android, RIM Blackberry, and JavaME, they have the ability to see platform-spanning trends..."

[Hondamaker]

I'm tellin' ya, if the new iPhone can do video, it will do 720p in quality. It's all coming together...I totally agree...Apple will do it up right---they generally do.

So, someone else (FlyersPhanatic9) got himself banned? Meh, how come women never get banned? Why do they seem to behave so much better than us guys?

[JWiPhone]

right. then they shouldn't have said this: Because their firm focuses not just on iPhone, but also on Android, RIM Blackberry, and JavaME, they have the ability to see platform-spanning trends..

I think they focus and are open to all developers for the major platforms, one of those being Blackberry. It just so happens that Blackberry has had very few who have used their tracking software.

[psylichon]

Ok, I heard a juicy rumor today from a member here who is taking way too long to post it in this thread, so he can come by and corroborate if he wishes. :D

But he seems to think this one is for real, and it makes 100% sense to me:

The new iPhone will record video in 720p and will output video via A/V cable at 1080p. It will be called iPhone HD.

Now this, along with other sources saying the current 3G will benefit from AT&T's 7.2mpbs upgrade (that is definitely happening right now) leads me to my updated hypothetical pricing scenario. I think they will continue to sell the current 3G alongside the 3GHD, and if so here's how I think it would be priced (based on nothing but history and my best guesstimate):

$99/8g 3G... $199/16g 3G... $299/16g 3GHD... $399/32g 3GHD

Thoughts?

[acosmichippo]

sounds plausible to me.

as long as there's more than HD video, i'll be happy.

[JWiPhone]

Ok, I heard a juicy rumor today from a member here who is taking way too long to post it in this thread, so he can come by and corroborate if he wishes. :D

$99/8g 3G... $199/16g 3G... $299/16g 3GHD... $399/32g 3GHD

Thoughts?

I like the idea of HD for the iPhone. I also hope they have an upgraded processor which is very likely. Where I disagree is that I doubt they will have an 8g iPhone, unless it would be in China. I think the lower end 3G iPhone will start at 16g.

[acosmichippo]

i think 8GB is still viable for mobile storage space. a lot of people don't even need 8.

[psylichon]

i think 8GB is still viable for mobile storage space. a lot of people don't even need 8.

This is my thinking as well. 8GB of storage costs like $15 at best these days, even for end users, so if anything is to come of these "iPhone Nano" rumors, I think it's going to be the current 3G, still available in 8GB for $99. Lots of people would eat that up, even in the face of new hardware this summer.

Anything less than 16GB for an HD-capable iPhone would be a waste of time.

[psylichon]

I also think HD capability would require a much faster processor just to compress on the fly, so I don't think you'd see one feature without the other.

[Indy]

Man that sounds great! Keep trying to nudge him/her in here, lol. :D Where did they get their info psylichon, or can you say?

[seanwes]

Man that sounds great! Keep trying to nudge him/her in here, lol. :D Where did they get their info psylichon, or can you say?

He said it was from a very reliable source. I'm not sure if he wants to say who it was from or not? I'll leave that up to him.

[JWiPhone]

This is my thinking as well. 8GB of storage costs like $15 at best these days, even for end users, so if anything is to come of these "iPhone Nano" rumors, I think it's going to be the current 3G, still available in 8GB for $99. Lots of people would eat that up, even in the face of new hardware this summer.

Anything less than 16GB for an HD-capable iPhone would be a waste of time.

My reasoning for there not being an 8GB iPhone is that Apple phased out the 4GB iPhone with iPhone 3G. I think they might follow suit with the next generation iPhone and phase out the 8GB. Of course, it is all just speculation on my part.

[acosmichippo]

the other side of it is there are still 8GB nanos, which have plenty of space for a lot of people.

[Indy]

WPG begins shipments of next-generation iPhone. http://www.digitimes.com/news/a20090423PB203.html

[ktownerxx213]

new iphone!!

http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2009/04/22/iphone-magnet-the-new-iphone/

[psylichon]

^^^ new concept photo not from Apple!! :)

[adnurahs]

^^^ new concept photo not from Apple!! :)


Whew!! :foot:

[Napoleon_PhoneApart]

WPG begins shipments of next-generation iPhone. http://www.digitimes.com/news/a20090423PB203.html

To be precise, "WPG begins shipments for next-generation iPhone."

They're shipping chips, not complete iPhones.

[Indy]

Yea I know Nappy, I just posted it up real quick without even reading it lol. Thanks for the clarification. ;)

[JWiPhone]

46 more days until June 8th, and the introduction to the new iPhone! :) That breaks down to 66240 minutes.

[Napoleon_PhoneApart]

Still too long!

[psylichon]

I'm starting to think with HD video and output capability, how high-rez can they go with the screen? Isn't most of the iPhone's OS made up of resolution-independent vector graphics and fonts? Makes one wonder...

[Hondamaker]

new iphone!!

http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2009/04/22/iphone-magnet-the-new-iphone/iPhone Magnet? Not bloody likely! :tounge:

[iNinja]

Im seriously thinkning about selling my 3g now while i can get a high price - if we are offered the new Iphone for say $300 if we extend our contract, i think we could achieve that by selling our 3g now, but when a new iphone is released im thinking the re-sale price will drop to around $100 ish? what do you think?

[acosmichippo]

Depends on a lot of things. V1s (especially unlocked) are still selling for very good prices mainly due to their international appeal.

So if the new iphone is only released initially in a few countries, you may very well be able to sell a 3g for a good price afterwards.

[psylichon]

Plus anyone wanting to off their 3G needs to consider when they're eligible for a new subsidized phone. For most people, that option won't even be available until January 2010.

[psylichon]

An older, but still interesting perspective on the "iPhone HD" rumor. We've got lots of details here and there, but I enjoy articles that try to pull all the rumors together into a vision like this:

http://www.theiphoneblog.com/2008/10/10/tipb-predicts-iphone-hd-in-2009/

[acosmichippo]

wow, that's from october.

[kenneth]

I sold my other iPhone for a low price because I think when the new iPhone comes out the prices will go down. I will be selling my 3g for the new one to try and take some of the hit I'm gonna have when I pay full price for the new one.

[Indy]

An older, but still interesting perspective on the "iPhone HD" rumor. We've got lots of details here and there, but I enjoy articles that try to pull all the rumors together into a vision like this:

http://www.theiphoneblog.com/2008/10/10/tipb-predicts-iphone-hd-in-2009/

Yea, they've been predicting an iPhone "HD" for quite some time now. They might have got this one right!

Nice new avatar pic man. :tounge:

[Indy]

Wow! Now that was a slooooooow week. :foot:

Looking foward to next week already. :tounge:

[Chex]

What would be the fair thing to do?

Get the new iphone for my wife and I get to look at it once in a while?

Or.... Give her my 3g and I get the new one?

[up10ad]

I'm giving my 3G to my wife to replace her iPhone, then getting the new one for ME.

[JWiPhone]

Wow! Now that was a slooooooow week. :foot:

Looking foward to next week already. :tounge:

No real earth shattering news or rumors on the new iPhone this past week. May will be here before you know it and then we are right on the heels of the new iPhone release. I have been downloading Apps and the iPhone manual to prepare (the new iPhone will be my first iPhone). I have about 80 apps now, everything from games to wine tasting. :tounge:

[Indy]

No real earth shattering news or rumors on the new iPhone this past week. May will be here before you know it and then we are right on the heels of the new iPhone release. I have been downloading Apps and the iPhone manual to prepare (the new iPhone will be my first iPhone). I have about 80 apps now, everything from games to wine tasting. :tounge:

That's funny. I have right around 120 apps, "most" free standing by. :wink:

[Phxblue]

Seriously. Its been a very disappointing news/rumor/leak week..

[psylichon]

calm before the storm...

[Phxblue]

My patience is waning so fast. I keep spending more and more in the app store to tide myself over. My wife is about to kill me..

[dwella]

I'm giving my 3G to my wife to replace her iPhone, then getting the new one for ME.

Me too...........

d

[Phxblue]

*Waiting patiently for Indy Jobs to dig something up*

[Phxblue]

I think Indy has passed away or something...

[Indy]

I got nothin' for ya...:frown:

Well, Papermaster started today...and something on an amd chip but not sure that has anything to do with the iPhone,...yet.

http://www.macrumors.com/2009/04/27/apple-personnel-moves-former-amd-chip-executive-hired-papermaster-finally-begins-work/

Slow day...and to much work to even check on things much, sorry.

I have a feeling were about to get slammed with info the rest of the week, or maybe that's just my wishful thinking. :tounge:

[Redon]

MMS will be working on the 3G model with software 3.0 coming out this summer. Apple "says" no MMS on the first phone due to hardware limitations.

"Hardware limitations" aka: we don;t want mms over the edge data network, to much load :frown:

[Indy]

Late...=/

http://www.businessweek.com/technology/content/apr2009/tc20090427_328264.htm

"One device is a smaller, less expensive calling device described by a person who has seen it as an "iPhone lite." The other is a media pad that would let users listen to music, view photos, and watch high-definition videos, the person says. It would place calls over a Wi-Fi connection. One of these devices may be introduced as early as this summer, one person says."

[acosmichippo]

if you can't beat 'em, join 'em.

i would've thought ATT's exclusivity contract would've prevented this kind of thing, though.

[Indy]

if you can't beat 'em, join 'em.

i would've thought ATT's exclusivity contract would've prevented this kind of thing, though.

Yea, that's what I thought as well.

I hope they don't make it to hard of a decision...hehe, hmmm Verizon or AT&T.

[Iphonehead]

if you can't beat 'em, join 'em.

i would've thought ATT's exclusivity contract would've prevented this kind of thing, though.

Verizon just posted better numbers in new customers without the iphone than ATT did with it for Q1.

[seanwes]

I just had a dream last night that while I was taking a video on my iPhone 3G (with Cycorder), it turned into an iPhone HD and started recording video from the front facing camera by default, and I was looking at myself.

Maybe Apple included a magical upgrade function in the iPhone 3G that will transform it into the new iPhone after a specified time for a price?

Or maybe I need more sleep...

[acosmichippo]

I don't see what that has to do with att's iPhone exclusivity contract with apple... I would think it should prevent apple from creating mobile devices for other telecom companies.

[Indy]

New AMD chips for future iPhone's? Touch? http://arstechnica.com/apple/news/2009/04/apple-continues-its-mysterious-chip-plans-with-new-hire.ars

[Indy]

Apple hiring more "chip people". :D http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/09/04/29/apple_reportedly_adding_more_graphics_chip_experts _to_team.html

[Indy]

Ok, not really iPhone news but I just had to show you all this 'tablet' mockup. AWESOME!

http://9to5mac.com/macformat-mac-tablet-mockup

http://www.macformat.co.uk/resources/macformat/NetBook%201.jpg (http://9to5mac.com/macformat-mac-tablet-mockup)

http://www.macformat.co.uk/resources/macformat/Netbook%202.jpg

And I'm diggin that bluetooth stereo headset.

:wink:

[Indy]

Here's a little WSJ article about Apple gearing up to design their own chips. I think it is still unclear wether or not all the latest hires of chip experts is for the iPhone and Touch but there is a lot of speculation going on as to who was hired for what. What are your thoughts?

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124104666426570729.html#mod=rss_whats_news_us

I'm very excited about the future of the iPhone/Touch.

[iNinja]

Ok, not really iPhone news but I just had to show you all this 'tablet' mockup. AWESOME!

http://9to5mac.com/macformat-mac-tablet-mockup

http://www.macformat.co.uk/resources/macformat/NetBook%201.jpg (http://9to5mac.com/macformat-mac-tablet-mockup)

http://www.macformat.co.uk/resources/macformat/Netbook%202.jpg

And I'm diggin that bluetooth stereo headset.

:wink:

Here you go again spreading your filth.... this is blatent porn and i think the mods should remove it!! ;)

You have no idea how much i hope it looks like that! ha

[Indy]

Apples new iPhone chips may not surface until next year. http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/09/04/30/apples_proprietary_iphone_chips_may_not_surface_ti ll_next_year.html

[Indy]

Apple Patent confirms carbon fiber going to be used for something! Carbon Fiber iPhone please, kthnx. http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/09/04/30/filing_confirms_apple_exploring_carbon_fiber_mac_e nclosures.html

[Indy]

2009 iPhone to get better screen and video editing. http://www.electronista.com/articles/09/04/30/2009.iphone.screen.and.vid/

[Napoleon_PhoneApart]

Sounds exciting if it turns out to be true...

[JWiPhone]

Thanks for the updates Indy. I was just reading about the carbon fibers over on MacRumors. Could that be in the future for the iPhone? That tablet mockup is awesome. I would have to try and justify the purchase of both a tablet and an iPhone. LOL

[monkeysrock0622]

I know this isn't as related as the tablet, but There is another article from 9to5mac.com about a MacBook toouch that can turn into a tablet

http://9to5mac.com/tommaso-gecchelin-macbook

I think in the coming years we will actually see something like this. I want one badly!!!

[iphun]

I know this isn't as related as the tablet, but There is another article from 9to5mac.com about a MacBook toouch that can turn into a tablet

http://9to5mac.com/tommaso-gecchelin-macbook

I think in the coming years we will actually see something like this. I want one badly!!!

I liked the one indy posted(I still like it), but this one I think I would buy in a second. This is something apple would do to be better than any tablet available with something that has never been done.

[Indy]

Making Movies: The Next Big Thing in iPhones?

http://www.businessweek.com/technology/ByteOfTheApple/blog/archives/2009/04/making_movies_t.html

"Now, I think we’re about six weeks away from the next big thing. At long last, after decades of having to mess with camcorders and cables and PC video editing software and hard drives, my gut tells me Apple will make the iPhone a one-stop studio for recording, editing, viewing and sharing your own videos. Actually, more than my gut. I’ve spoken with a source that is familiar with Apple’s plans for the next iPhone, which may well be announced at Apple’s Worldwide Developers Conference (http://developer.apple.com/WWDC/) in early June. Evidently, shooting video is as easy as it is with a Flip, the ingenious (http://www.businessweek.com/magazine/content/07_23/b4037016.htm)device made by Pure Digital (recently purchased by Cisco (http://www.businessweek.com/magazine/content/09_18/b4129000543435.htm?chan=magazine+channel_opinion)) . Then there’s an iMovie app that lets you quickly save the sections you want, right there on the phone itself. There may also be support for MMS, so the clips can be shared wirelessly with friends. And because of the iPhone’s relatively large screen, your friends don’t have to schlep to your PC or their Facebook page to see that video of your kids or your safari. Just hand them your iPhone.

The atmospherics suggest that I’m right. I’m referring to the loud silence from Apple—a company that is famous for pre-launch misdirection in order to maintain some element of surprise. For example, Apple made no mention of any video recording capability when it unveiled its iPhone 3.0 software (http://www.businessweek.com/technology/content/mar2009/tc20090317_899355.htm)a few months back. And yet blog posts from Gizmodo and others have pretty much confirmed (http://gizmodo.com/5202166/iphone-30s-video-recording-interface-revealed) that it’s in there.

Cut to today, when millions of people love to post YouTube videos—but don’t have a dead-simple way to do it. Apple’s new approach sounds like it may be the answer. People will shoot more video, since they will usually have their phone with them. Since they don’t need to mess with any PC or editing program, they may actually go to the trouble of editing it down to a bearable length (and given the excellent synching in iTunes, they won’t simply forget they shot the footage or forget where they put it). And while there is at least one great device for recording video (that Flip) and plenty for playing it back (any laptop will do), the iPhone could turn out to be the best at handling both of these tasks at once.

Then there’s the marketing opportunity. This one is right in Apple’s wheelhouse; the company should have no problem coming up with great ads that poke fun at how difficult it’s been to simply send grandma a video of the kids, and how Apple makes it easier. So my hunch is that Apple will be selling loads of iPhones to people who want to create their own videos, rather than just watch those made by the pros."

"Hunch"? "Gut Feeling"? Hope he's right! In fact MY gut is telling me something right now as well...or maybe that's the spicy chicken from lunch today, gotta run! :foot:

[kevlar08]

Ok, not really iPhone news but I just had to show you all this 'tablet' mockup. AWESOME!

http://9to5mac.com/macformat-mac-tablet-mockup

http://www.macformat.co.uk/resources/macformat/NetBook%201.jpg (http://9to5mac.com/macformat-mac-tablet-mockup)

http://www.macformat.co.uk/resources/macformat/Netbook%202.jpg

And I'm diggin that bluetooth stereo headset.

:wink:

good god this would be amazing

[acosmichippo]

not gonna happen.

[Indy]

Apple Interest in Gaming isn't Casual. ...Well, hell yea! GOOD! :laugh2:

http://www.forbes.com/2009/05/01/apple-gaming-iphone-technology-enteprise-tech-apple.html

"Apple appears to be preparing an all-out assault on the handheld gaming market, moving to snap up gaming industry insiders from Microsoft to go with its growing team of graphics-chip specialists.

News that Apple has poached Richard Teversham from Microsoft's Xbox business this week is only the latest sign Apple has gotten serious about the gaming business. Teversham, who was senior director for insights and strategy at Microsoft's Xbox Business, drove the "three year strategy for the Xbox business" in Europe, the Middle East and Asia, according to his LinkedIn profile.

Earlier this week Apple (http://finapps.forbes.com/finapps/jsp/finance/compinfo/CIAtAGlance.jsp?tkr=AAPL) ( AAPL (http://finapps.forbes.com/finapps/jsp/finance/compinfo/CIAtAGlance.jsp?tkr=AAPL) - news (http://search.forbes.com/search/CompanyNewsSearch?ticker=AAPL)- people (http://people.forbes.com/search?ticker=AAPL)) hired Bob Drebin, chief technologist at Advanced Micro Device's graphics group and the creator of the Nintendo (http://finapps.forbes.com/finapps/jsp/finance/compinfo/CIAtAGlance.jsp?tkr=NTDOY.PK) ( NTDOY.PK (http://finapps.forbes.com/finapps/jsp/finance/compinfo/CIAtAGlance.jsp?tkr=NTDOY.PK) - news (http://search.forbes.com/search/CompanyNewsSearch?ticker=NTDOY.PK)- people (http://people.forbes.com/search?ticker=NTDOY.PK)) Gamecube's graphics processor.

That move came as IBM (http://finapps.forbes.com/finapps/jsp/finance/compinfo/CIAtAGlance.jsp?tkr=IBM) ( IBM (http://finapps.forbes.com/finapps/jsp/finance/compinfo/CIAtAGlance.jsp?tkr=IBM) - news (http://search.forbes.com/search/CompanyNewsSearch?ticker=IBM)- people (http://people.forbes.com/search?ticker=IBM)) chip designer Mark Papermaster began his role as head of Apple's iPod business last month after a long legal tussle with IBM.

Apple is also putting some of its huge pile of cash into semiconductor technology. In December, Apple purchased 3.6% of U.K.-based ImagInation, licensing its PowerVR graphics technology. And last year Apple purchased processor designer PA Semi for $378 million (See "Apple Buys Chip Designer (http://www.forbes.com/2008/04/23/apple-buys-pasemi-tech-ebiz-cz_eb_0422apple.html) ").

Where will those investments be put to work? Apple Chief Executive Steve Jobs said in an interview last year that he plans to put his PA Semi designers to work building silicon for the company's iPhones and iPods. And while Apple keeps its hardware roadmap to itself, iPhone developers such as Damon Allison figure the iPhone and iPod's hardware will evolve in at least three areas.

First, the iPhone will almost certainly get a better camera and multi-media capabilities. That could unleash a new generation of applications that integrate video and still images into games and social applications, as Nintendo's new DSi has done.

Second, sooner or later the iPhone and iPod touch will get a new, faster processor, most likely an ARM-based design customized by Apple's in-house designers. The result will be snappier, better looking games.

Third, Apple will experiment with new form factors, launching a netbook or tablet computer that may use the same software that powers the iPhone and iPod touch. Such a device might be a terrible phone--it's hard to imagine shoving a 10-inch screen in your pocket--but it could be an ideal platform for games and social networking.

However, talk to a few of the thousands of developers who have flocked to build software for Apple's iPhone since last year and they'll say that Apple's instructions have always been very clear: Build your applications so that they're compatible with different screen resolutions and screen sizes.

"Apple has told us from the beginning to be sure to write our new software in a way that will accommodate different resolutions and screen sizes," Tapulus Chief Executive Bart Decrem says."

Interesting little article. Really nothing new or anything we didn't already suspect or know, but just goes to show that more and more people are realizing how serious this app store thing has evolved in such a short time and the potential of things to come for the iPhone and Touch. People love games and it would be downright foolish for Apple to ignore (impossible) and not make major advancements in the years to come for handheld gaming and media. I'd say they've got a damn'd good headstart and expect big things to come in the coming years. :wink:

Bedtime, g'nite.

[Hondamaker]

However, talk to a few of the thousands of developers who have flocked to build software for Apple's iPhone since last year and they'll say that Apple's instructions have always been very clear: Build your applications so that they're compatible with different screen resolutions and screen sizes.

"Apple has told us from the beginning to be sure to write our new software in a way that will accommodate different resolutions and screen sizes," Tapulus Chief Executive Bart Decrem says."
This part is news to me also! Different screen rez? That's so obvious Apple's gonna have different devices with different size screens. Man, I can't wait to see what's in store!

[iphun]

This part is news to me also! Different screen rez? That's so obvious Apple's gonna have different devices with different size screens. Man, I can't wait to see what's in store!
News to me too. I remember someone saying before that apple would have to let devs know to make their apps work on different resoultion screens if they planned on better screens, but this fact was never brought up. This is definitely welcome news and again more proof of a new device this summer.

[seanwes]

This part is news to me also! Different screen rez? That's so obvious Apple's gonna have different devices with different size screens. Man, I can't wait to see what's in store!

This gives even more weight to the likelihood that the new phone will be the iPhone HD. I doubt that they will change the ratio of the screen, but I almost certainly suspect that they will increase the quality of the screen resulting in a higher resolution that will need to be accounted for by application developers.

[psylichon]

Probably just more rehash, but still droolage:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/04/30/AR2009043003193.html

Will Apple (http://financial.washingtonpost.com/custom/wpost/html-qcn.asp?dispnav=business&mwpage=qcn&symb=AAPL&nav=el) (NSDQ: AAPL (http://finance.paidcontent.org/paidcontent?Page=QUOTE&Ticker=AAPL)) do to the camcorder industry what it has done to the music industry? Yes, according to an article in BusinessWeek today (http://www.businessweek.com/technology/ByteOfTheApple/blog/archives/2009/04/making_movies_t.html), which strings together a number of events to make the bold prediction that we are "about six weeks away from the next big thing."
It argues that Apple is on the cusp of turning the iPhone into a powerful camcorder that would get rid of cumbersome cables and complicated video-editing software. "My gut tells me Apple will make the iPhone a one-stop studio for recording, editing, viewing and sharing your own videos. Actually, more than my gut. I've spoken with a source that is familiar with Apple's plans for the next iPhone, which may well be announced at Apple's Worldwide Developers Conference in early June."

[ZR_Yancy]

Jeez! Looks like the new iPhone is going to revolutionize cell phones "again"!

[iphun]

Yeah just when we though companies like Palm and HTC were catching up or getting ahead Apple just takes another big step forward(at least that's what it looks like)

[Hondamaker]

I'ma get one---wife's gonna kill me, but I'ma get one!

[psylichon]

Honda, I just don't have words to express my feelings about your new avatar. It's.... interesting... :foot:

[Hondamaker]

I like looking evil and mean. :tounge:

[psylichon]

Yeah, but the soft focus lens brings out your inner Martha Stewart.

[Hondamaker]

Yeah, but the soft focus lens brings out your inner Martha Stewart.Yeah, and she's evil and mean!

[Indy]

"Improved Screen" on the way? http://www.theiphoneblog.com/2009/05/04/iphone-hd-watch-gen-iphone-improved-screen/ Yes please! :D

[seanwes]

"Improved Screen" on the way? http://www.theiphoneblog.com/2009/05/04/iphone-hd-watch-gen-iphone-improved-screen/ Yes please! :D

Oh you know it! It's SO coming :laugh2:

[Hondamaker]

"Improved Screen" on the way? http://www.theiphoneblog.com/2009/05/04/iphone-hd-watch-gen-iphone-improved-screen/ Yes please! :DI'd like to know how it can get any better? It's already stunning. It's like trying to make water wetter!

[JWiPhone]

"Improved Screen" on the way? http://www.theiphoneblog.com/2009/05/04/iphone-hd-watch-gen-iphone-improved-screen/ Yes please! :D

It makes perfect sense. If this new iPhone will have an improved camera, video capability with editing software, then it reasons that a new and improved screen would be included. I do think OLED is a bit too soon. I would gladly take any improvement with the screen however. June can't come soon enough, 35 days and counting! :laugh2:

[Indy]

Ok, so check this out.

I'm going to keep the forums and the member confidential from where this PM was posted in my inbox because I don't think it would be cool to post such info as they don't know I'm posting it elsewhere and may not want the info released.

Anyways, take it for what it's worth. Still sounded truthful to me but could be made up as we all know any one of us can make up any 'ol rumor.


Read on...

"Someone" posted in "A" forum that they used to work for Apple and had held 3 different prototypes of a new generation iPhone.

So I sent them a PM and here's how it went...

Quote:
Originally Posted by =MuLti-CeLL=
I find that pretty awesome if you worked for Apple. What did you do? Can you tell me anything about a new iPhone this summer? Thanks! :P


"I worked for Apple, but was not employed by Apple.

Yes, one is coming, it may be delayed by up to three weeks though. Apple won't launch until 32 GB models are ready but they are dependent upon industry supply. Target launch for July 10, actual launch will be the 17th to no later than the 31st. I don't work in software but I think that 3.0 will be ready before the new iPhone and they will probably release it to current users before the new iPhone goes on sale.

The leaked image of the back casing from a month or two ago is real. It is a rubberized plastic which feels "grippy" and has a smoky charcoal color. That is part of just one of three prototypes. The chrome bezel is gone. The camera hole is slightly larger with an actual lens, no optical zoom or flash. It will utilize the 3.2 MP sensor. On one prototype the Apple logo was made transparent so it could be lighted by an LED (which had yet to be added). It doesn't appear this feature has been added in the 3.0 software so it is unlikely to be released. On another prototype there were two LED's that shone through the LCD when it wasn't in use, however this won't come to the final release as the feature doesn't justify the cost and it increased the device thickness somewhat.

The CPU is 733 MHz and is custom-designed by PA semi. It runs underclocked around 530 MHz at the same performance as the current processor which runs at 400 MHz. It could probably run at its full rating but will likely be under clocked at whichever rating optimizes battery life. It is not multi-core. RAM has doubled to 256 MB.

One model will be released this summer, two distinct models are being developed. Don't know when they will expand by the product line but expect two iPhone models by the end of 2010."

Yea, I'll take one of those please.

Like I said, ya know, this person could just be pullin' my leg, but doesn't just sound made up 'on the fly'.

Geez, could we have another week of slow iPhone rumors please? What are we goin' on? 3 weeks now? :tounge:

[Pimpboy51]

What did I miss? OH! and lovin the new hair psylichon!

[psylichon]

That's great stuff, Indy. The processor news is a tad disappointing, but hopefully they can run it full throttle if needed. I don't think any of this sounds out of line at all with what is likely to happen...

[Indy]

That's great stuff, Indy. The processor news is a tad disappointing, but hopefully they can run it full throttle if needed. I don't think any of this sounds out of line at all with what is likely to happen...

Yea, maybe they can bump it up in speed if needed. 256 RAM Yay! :laugh2:

[HELPmepLox]

damn cant wait for it im bored with my sony xperia aready... i saw all the new apps, i haven't had an iphone since it first came out so it should be tight.

that commercial tho with the fedex delivery check is tight

[i robot]

I've just passed on a birthday gadget present in the hope that the new iPhone will be released soon (June/July).

Well those in the know will .... my gamble pay off?

[iNinja]

I would say that Indy's post seems to be pretty legit - Mid to end July

[i robot]

I would say that Indy's post seems to be pretty legit - Mid to end July

Yeah I'd seen that and hope so.

I just wanted mental reassurance that I am going to get some excitement/reward in the next few months as a certain football team are detroying my dreams yet again.:wink:

Good luck against BarcaTounge Smile

Liverpool fan

[Indy]

@HelpmePlox There was a time before Sony released it that I thought the Xperia would be "the one" to give Apple a new challenge. I guess its not all I expected it to be then huh? Not that I was wanting an Xperia over an iPhone but thought maybe this will be the one to make Apple step it up a notch more, now I'm thinking the "Pre" isn't going to have much impact. iPhone is, all by itself, in a class of its own.

[iNinja]

Yeah I'd seen that and hope so.

Good luck against BarcaTounge Smile

Liverpool fan

Haha thanks, on last nights game we should be able to beat them both. You should have beat Chelsea

[Chex]

Yea, maybe they can bump it up in speed if needed. 256 RAM Yay! :laugh2:

+1 On the Ram! Jb phones will be as snappy as unbroken
ones.

Tho suckin more battery life may be a killer.

If battery life does not increase we may be able to see the battery life bar
Move as we use the phone.:frown: