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ravman
12-02-2008, 06:35 PM
This phone looks the shiz nitz:

http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/02/nokia-unveils-flagship-n97-phone/

I wonder if it has copy/paste & MMS?

Witness
12-02-2008, 08:12 PM
Well time to start saving up!

I want this phone.

dturner
12-02-2008, 08:37 PM
People have been talking about this all day on the forum (http://www.everythingicafe.com/forum/general-discussion/wow-might-this-be-the-one-39987.html). Not too many are impressed including me. Too bulky and I personally don't like slide out keyboards.

Youngbinks
12-02-2008, 10:41 PM
It does look rather bulky. The keyboard does it in.

TarekElsakka
12-03-2008, 10:35 AM
I'm hopefully going to buy it as soon as it comes out in Egypt. Nokia ftw! <3

It does look rather bulky. The keyboard does it in.

Dude, I don't give a crap about how fat or big it is, as long as it's better than the piece of donkey crap I am holding nowadays. I can't wait to get rid of it ASAP, either by giving it to my dad and he'd buy me another phone, or sell it but neither me nor my father like to sell phones, especially ones that we get from abroad. Except for the HTC ones, they sucked ass.

Youngbinks
12-03-2008, 02:49 PM
I'm hopefully going to buy it as soon as it comes out in Egypt. Nokia ftw! <3



Dude, I don't give a crap about how fat or big it is, as long as it's better than the piece of donkey crap I am holding nowadays. I can't wait to get rid of it ASAP, either by giving it to my dad and he'd buy me another phone, or sell it but neither me nor my father like to sell phones, especially ones that we get from abroad. Except for the HTC ones, they sucked ass.

Which phone do you have now that you are referring to?

TarekElsakka
12-03-2008, 03:20 PM
iPhone 3G.

aggieman
12-03-2008, 03:54 PM
iPhone 3G.

doh! not gonna make many friends around here doing that!

personally I don't think the iPhone 3g is a piece of "donkey crap". I think its a great piece of (crippled) technology. If it wasn't crippled (bluetooth, mms, copy/paste, file access) it would probably be the best phone on the market. That said, for me anyhow function trumps style and fun apps. That's why I've been with Nokia and BlackBerry for the last several months :/ If the 3rd gen iphone comes out and is opened up, I'm running back to the iPhone. Especially if it has BlackBerry connect.

acosmichippo
12-03-2008, 04:25 PM
why does it look like something fischer-price built?

aggieman
12-03-2008, 04:31 PM
^^ probably because it's an unfinished prototype. Most Nokia prototypes appear that way.

TarekElsakka
12-03-2008, 04:51 PM
If it wasn't crippled (bluetooth, mms, copy/paste, file access) it would probably be the best phone on the market.

Well, you should consider adding 'No GPS and 3G' for people like me who live in Egypt, and most of the other countries except USA. So what's the fun in using an iPhone 3G then? That's why TO ME it's considered a piece of donkey crap, people always have different opinions.

Witness
12-03-2008, 05:17 PM
Well, you should consider adding 'No GPS and 3G' for people like me who live in Egypt, and most of the other countries except USA. So what's the fun in using an iPhone 3G then? That's why TO ME it's considered a piece of donkey crap, people always have different opinions.

Then why did you get one in the first place?

acosmichippo
12-03-2008, 05:24 PM
probably so he could talk **** about it.

Youngbinks
12-03-2008, 05:25 PM
Is the iPhone legitimately sold in Egypt?

aknightstale41
12-03-2008, 05:28 PM
Well, you should consider adding 'No GPS and 3G' for people like me who live in Egypt, and most of the other countries except USA. So what's the fun in using an iPhone 3G then? That's why TO ME it's considered a piece of donkey crap, people always have different opinions.
Hey Tarek, you might be able to get 3g reception at the top of the pyrimid. :tounge:
Either that or move to Cupertino, hopefully its available in Egypt soon, ive got the same issue in my town.

TarekElsakka
12-03-2008, 05:32 PM
Is the iPhone legitimately sold in Egypt?

It was not until two days after I bought it. My dad and I received an SMS from Mobinil (our network provider) saying that they are selling iPhone 3Gs now. 3800 Egyptian Pounds which is like $700 USD or a bit more. But at least unlocked and of course the 3G works on them. I am going to go to my network provider and see if they can adjust the settings for me so I'd be able to use 3G. I don't know if it's even fast here, but who knows? Haha.

@acosmichippo, you're close but not much. I got it because of what every one here kept saying about it (by here I mean my country). And because I know a lot of people online who had it before me and they loved it, so it was an opportunity since I was already in the States.

@aknightstale41, been there done that. Doesn't work.

Youngbinks
12-03-2008, 05:34 PM
It was not until two days after I bought it. My dad and I received an SMS from Mobinil (our network provider) saying that they are selling iPhone 3Gs now. 3800 Egyptian Pounds which is like $700 USD or a bit more. But at least unlocked and of course the 3G works on them. I am going to go to my network provider and see if they can adjust the settings for me so I'd be able to use 3G. I don't know if it's even fast here, but who knows? Haha.


Well I don't think that complaining about lack of 3G when you didn't purchase it from a legitimate reseller is a valid argument. Sure it make lack in other areas but complaining because you don't get 3G is a different matter.

TarekElsakka
12-03-2008, 07:40 PM
Look Binks, I know we're not supposed to use it in countries other than the States but they should at least sell unlocked ones so people from abroad can use 3G and GPS as much as they want. I was willing to pay $800 or even more for an unlocked one, I actually was going to be a locked 16GB for $910 but I was like, locked and for that price? No way. So I decided to buy the 8gb from someone else and found it for $650, so I went ahead and bought it. So you see how much I wanted it? I was dying for it. Surprisngly enough, three days after using it I felt like that it sucks and is not satisfying me what so ever.

Oh and lets cut the crap here, do you really think an iPhone 3G is better than a Nokia N95 8GB, Nokia E90i, or a Nokia E71 even? Exclude the size difference, type (touch screen or not), and appearance, although all the Nokia phones I listed here are awesome looking except for the E90i. I am talking about the features, capabilities, and ease of use here. So which one do you think is better?

ravman
12-03-2008, 07:49 PM
What's a "pyrimid"?


Hey Tarek, you might be able to get 3g reception at the top of the pyrimid. :tounge:
Either that or move to Cupertino, hopefully its available in Egypt soon, ive got the same issue in my town.

Witness
12-03-2008, 07:50 PM
iPhone>any Nokia phone.

Period.

dturner
12-03-2008, 07:53 PM
do you really think an iPhone 3G is better than a Nokia N95 8GB, Nokia E90i, or a Nokia E71 even?
Yep. .......

Napoleon_PhoneApart
12-03-2008, 07:53 PM
What's a "pyrimid"?

Right down the road from the sfincks.

TarekElsakka
12-03-2008, 07:55 PM
5800 Express Music - http://news.timtechs.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/07/nokia5800bat1.gif

N97 - http://www.telegraph.co.uk/telegraph/multimedia/archive/01124/nokian97_1124887c.jpg


N96 - http://www.cyberindian.net/wp-content/uploads/nokia-n96-mobile-phone.jpg


So basically, iPhone = Pwned. Simple as that.

Witness
12-03-2008, 07:56 PM
5800 Express Music - http://news.timtechs.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/07/nokia5800bat1.gif

N97 - http://www.telegraph.co.uk/telegraph/multimedia/archive/01124/nokian97_1124887c.jpg


N96 - http://www.cyberindian.net/wp-content/uploads/nokia-n96-mobile-phone.jpg


So basically, iPhone = Pwned. Simple as that.

Try going here

www.everythingnokia.com

TarekElsakka
12-03-2008, 07:56 PM
Yep. .......

When I saw that, one word occurred to me "Bias".

ravman
12-03-2008, 07:57 PM
The N96 looked nice, but it didn't really have time to make any ground, as the N97 will kill it. But it has a DVR built into it. Sweet.

I just wish they weren't so chunky.


iPhone>any Nokia phone.

Period.

TarekElsakka
12-03-2008, 08:00 PM
Try going here

www.everythingnokia.com (http://www.everythingnokia.com)

Haha, wish it was available. Oh well, I like the forums here, and I don't think I am going to sell my iPhone 3G any time soon. Not even when the N97 comes out and I hopefully buy it. My dad just told me like an hour ago, "did you get bored of the iPhone yet?" haha. He's like, I'll buy you a new phone of your choice and I'll take the iPhone. He can get one from Mobinil for a discounted price because he has points called 'Star Points' (he'll just have to pay like $120) and of course unlocked. So he's like, instead of getting the SAME phone, I'd rather buy you one and take this.

I told him you'll not even like it, I can bet you. So I think I'll just wait for the N97 to come out, because I don't want to buy another touch screen that doesn't have a physical qwerty keyboard (5800 Express Music). The iPhone 3G's shock was enough haha.

Witness
12-03-2008, 08:03 PM
Haha, wish it was available. Oh well, I like the forums here, and I don't think I am going to sell my iPhone 3G any time soon. Not even when the N97 comes out and I hopefully buy it. My dad just told me like an hour ago, "did you get bored of the iPhone yet?" haha. He's like, I'll buy you a new phone of your choice and I'll take the iPhone. He can get one from Mobinil for a discounted price because he has points called 'Star Points' (he'll just have to pay like $120) and of course unlocked. So he's like, instead of getting the SAME phone, I'd rather buy you one and take this.

I told him you'll not even like it, I can bet you. So I think I'll just wait for the N97 to come out, because I don't want to buy another touch screen that doesn't have a physical qwerty keyboard (5800 Express Music). The iPhone 3G's shock was enough haha.

Do you know when the n97 will be available for purchase in the U.S?

TarekElsakka
12-03-2008, 08:07 PM
There aren't any specific dates. Though it is expected to be released in January 09 (I forgot where I read that though).

You can watch some of its videos here (http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/02/nokia-unveils-flagship-n97-phone/). It does look awesome and neat, doesn't it?

Witness
12-03-2008, 08:09 PM
There aren't any specific dates. Though it is expected to be released in January 09 (I forgot where I read that though).

You can watch some of its videos here (http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/02/nokia-unveils-flagship-n97-phone/). It does look awesome and neat, doesn't it?

Yup.......

TarekElsakka
12-03-2008, 08:17 PM
Oh and check out the comparison at gsmarena,

http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone2=2424&idPhone1=2615

Enough said and one my friend. Oh and don't forget that the bluetooth in the iPhone isn't even counted, roflmao, you can't even send or receive anything from other phones through Bluetooth. It's only good for bluetooth earphones, specific types too I think?

I did read a review that pissed me off though, the guy said "the nokia is allredy sick with 5 mega camera not advance camera like 8 mega in samsung shame on you nokia ..............!?". He's absolutely right, they should have made it 8MP. The iPhone is still stuck with a 2 MP camera? Roflmao.

aknightstale41
12-03-2008, 08:20 PM
What's a "pyrimid"?

Its a big 3d triangle thingy that i still dont know how they were created...or how its spelled :smile:

TarekElsakka
12-03-2008, 10:45 PM
The Pyramids.

They were built by the Pharaohs' servants and maids. And of course those were men back then not women. Can you believe that? Can you even imagine how a group of men can hold, set, and stick such huge rocks one piece and another without today's technology? Well, that's simply impossible and beautiful. That's why the Pyramids are considered the strongest and most beautiful historic structures, and that's why they are in the seven wonders of the world.

psylichon
12-03-2008, 10:56 PM
Do you really think an iPhone 3G is better than a Nokia N95 8GB, Nokia E90i, or a Nokia E71 even?

Yep. .......


When I saw that, one word occurred to me "Bias".

Uuuuuuuummmmmmm.......

5800 Express Music - http://news.timtechs.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/07/nokia5800bat1.gif

N97 - http://www.telegraph.co.uk/telegraph/multimedia/archive/01124/nokian97_1124887c.jpg


N96 - http://www.cyberindian.net/wp-content/uploads/nokia-n96-mobile-phone.jpg


So basically, iPhone = Pwned. Simple as that.

Welcome to our iPhone forum. Come on dude, are you for real?

ravman
12-03-2008, 10:58 PM
LOL, I just got this. Man I'm slow today!!



Right down the road from the sfincks.

TarekElsakka
12-03-2008, 10:58 PM
I am for real. I said it before dude, even if I have an iPhone 3G and am registered to a related forum, I still won't pretend that I like the device just so people would accept me or so I would fit in. Seriously, I don't like that phone, simple as that. I do like helping people here though and receiving help when needed, that's just about it.

TarekElsakka
12-03-2008, 11:00 PM
LOL, I just got this. Man I'm slow today!!

Damn are you serious? I thought your post was meant to be sarcastic. Roflmao. By the way, it's not called sfincks (Napoleon was being sarcastic too so you wouldn't fall for that too), it's called Sphinx and it's next to the pyramids.

psylichon
12-03-2008, 11:03 PM
I do like helping people here though and receiving help when needed, that's just about it.

I enjoy that too. I also enjoy making friends. Just a word of advice... if you wish to have friends here, you probably shouldn't go bashing the phone that everyone here uses, even if you hate it. It's just common Internet forum courtesy.

Youngbinks
12-03-2008, 11:08 PM
Look Binks, I know we're not supposed to use it in countries other than the States but they should at least sell unlocked ones so people from abroad can use 3G and GPS as much as they want. So I decided to buy the 8gb from someone else and found it for $650, so I went ahead and bought it. So you see how much I wanted it? I was dying for it. Surprisngly enough, three days after using it I felt like that it sucks and is not satisfying me what so ever.

Oh and lets cut the crap here, do you really think an iPhone 3G is better than a Nokia N95 8GB, Nokia E90i, or a Nokia E71 even? Exclude the size difference, type (touch screen or not), and appearance, although all the Nokia phones I listed here are awesome looking except for the E90i. I am talking about the features, capabilities, and ease of use here. So which one do you think is better?

It is perfectly possible to buy the iPhone in other countries that are unlocked. If you buy an iPhone in the U.S. you should be aware that it is locked to the AT&T network. That's not a surprise. The iPhone has been locked to AT&T since June of 2007. I don't really think a matter of "wanting it enough" to spend more on it is going to convince Apple and AT&T to break their contract.

And if you want to compare the phones, is there anything else you want to exclude? If you're going to make a comparison, don't exclude things. Why not exclude the hard drive capacity, availability, cost or anything else just to make said phone seem better?

And for the record. I've had Nokia phones. Had being the key word.

TarekElsakka
12-03-2008, 11:11 PM
Well, I am not bashing the phone, I am simply stating my opinion, and I am not saying that every one else should hate it you know. I did buy the iPhone 3G and of course it won't be fair for me to say (IT SUCKS, DON'T BUY IT GUYS) so I am just saying that it's crap and I hate it, although every one else here loves it. So my opinion doesn't count here at all, and I am speaking for myself not anyone else. As I said, people have different opinions, mine is that it's crap, yours is that it's awesome, it's okay, that's how life is. Wow I sound like an old man rofl.

TarekElsakka
12-03-2008, 11:14 PM
It is perfectly possible to buy the iPhone in other countries that are unlocked. If you buy an iPhone in the U.S. you should be aware that it is locked to the AT&T network. That's not a surprise. The iPhone has been locked to AT&T since June of 2007. I don't really think a matter of "wanting it enough" to spend more on it is going to convince Apple and AT&T to break their contract.

And if you want to compare the phones, is there anything else you want to exclude? If you're going to make a comparison, don't exclude things. Why not exclude the hard drive capacity, availability, cost or anything else just to make said phone seem better?

And for the record. I've had Nokia phones. Had being the key word.

The size of the latest Nokia phones has become a bit bulky, maybe it's because they are really advanced and there are too many chips in there? Lol, I don't know. The appearance is as good as the iPhone's though. But of course you should exclude the type because that's a touch screen, and that's a normal mobile device with number pads. I can not compare it to any touch screen Nokia phones yet, because the only two ones that seem interesting are the N97 and the 5800 Express Music, so we'll see. Of course there was one touch screen Nokia phone back then but it sucked.

Oh I forgot to add, in case of availability and price, Nokia still pwns it hard :]. Because you can buy a Nokia phone for as cheap as an iPhone 3G with a service plan, but at least you'll get to MMS, Video Call, Copy & Paste, use Bluetooth how it was made to be - not just for bluetooth earphones, and last but not least download music and applications from the browser straight to the phone. Instead of having to jailbreak and all that headache.

psylichon
12-03-2008, 11:24 PM
Fair enough. No worries, mate. :)

ravman
12-03-2008, 11:31 PM
Dude, I knew it was a joke. Just like the whole "pyrimid" thing.

I got it now, as in I just got the joke. It's been a long day, roll on Friday.

I've been to the Valley of the Kings many times (used to live in Europe). One amazing place to visit.



Damn are you serious? I thought your post was meant to be sarcastic. Roflmao. By the way, it's not called sfincks (Napoleon was being sarcastic too so you wouldn't fall for that too), it's called Sphinx and it's next to the pyramids.

TarekElsakka
12-03-2008, 11:36 PM
Oh, sorry mate, but I liked USA the most. I have been to a lot of countries in Europe, like France, Netherlands, Sweden, Finland, Italy, UK (London), and many others, but I liked none of them. People there are racist and arrogant. I don't look like Arabs AT ALL because I am Turkish, but I have the Egyptian passport. People were sometimes shocked when they knew I am an Arab, especially in the USA. Because I am white, red hair, and freckles; people always though I was Scottish or English lmfao.

Indy
12-03-2008, 11:38 PM
so I am just saying that it's crap and I hate it, although every one else here loves it.

Wtf?

Is this ^guy^ for real? :tounge:

http://www.vaq34.com/vaq34/wtf-cat.jpg

Well you know what they say, "opinions are like @ssholes..." :tounge: And you're entitled to your, well...ya know...

TarekElsakka
12-03-2008, 11:42 PM
Lmao, that cat looks hella funny.

Indy
12-03-2008, 11:57 PM
Lmao, that cat looks hella funny.

Yea, I've always liked that one...:tounge:

I always imagine him sayin "Mayun, who you talkin' to like that?"

glsda
12-04-2008, 12:07 AM
Lmao, that cat looks hella funny.

Tarek, I must say you have a set of brass ones. I enjoying reading the repartee between you and other members. You can take it as well as you dish it out.

Jerry

acosmichippo
12-04-2008, 04:01 AM
Oh, sorry mate, but I liked USA the most. I have been to a lot of countries in Europe, like France, Netherlands, Sweden, Finland, Italy, UK (London), and many others, but I liked none of them. People there are racist and arrogant. I don't look like Arabs AT ALL because I am Turkish, but I have the Egyptian passport. People were sometimes shocked when they knew I am an Arab, especially in the USA. Because I am white, red hair, and freckles; people always though I was Scottish or English lmfao.

i won't pretend to have much first-hand experience with racism, but i can't imagine it's worse in the countries you listed than in the US. Just where in the US did you visit?

TarekElsakka
12-04-2008, 11:40 AM
Manhattan and Brooklyn. A lot of the people there are Black, Asian, and Hispanic. So I don't think there isn't much of racism there. Plus, Americans aren't as arrogant and conceited as Europeans, especially English and French people. They are known to be pain in the ass and hard to live with. People in France actually refuse to speak in English even if they know how to, they are too proud of their language.

acosmichippo
12-04-2008, 12:10 PM
I think you're giving Americans too much credit. People are dumb all over.

Napoleon_PhoneApart
12-04-2008, 12:18 PM
...dumb all over...

...a little ugly on the side...-- Frank Zappa

Hondamaker
12-04-2008, 03:36 PM
5800 Express Music - http://news.timtechs.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/07/nokia5800bat1.gif

N97 - http://www.telegraph.co.uk/telegraph/multimedia/archive/01124/nokian97_1124887c.jpg


N96 - http://www.cyberindian.net/wp-content/uploads/nokia-n96-mobile-phone.jpg


So basically, iPhone = Pwned. Simple as that.The GUI's on those phones are a cluster****, without the fluidity or intuitiveness (is that a word?) of the iPhone's GUI. IMHO.

TarekElsakka
12-04-2008, 03:46 PM
What sucks about all Nokia phones is the OS. If they had like Windows Mobile for instance, that would be awesome.