I know you won't actually read it but....

[OJsakila]

Criticizing a religion is something that makes people squeamish, especially in the paranoid culture of political correctness. Christians say that we are to love, not judge. Jews, after millennia of persecution, are terrified of even the perception of intolerance. Secular humanists, in deference to multiculturalism and the peace process, have sacrificed truth on the altar of their political agenda. So why upset everyone?
Why? Because they will continue to kill us if we don't expose them.
Before revealing what the Qur'an and Hadith have to say about Muhammad and Islam, I'd like to clear up a few inevitable misconceptions....

First, on Muslims - (Terek and whomever..) You are wrong. My views on Islam and our conversation had NOTHING to do with my ban. I was banned because I unjustly attacked Alexander and JJ. You are not even American and you claim MY new President a Muslim...I pity your ignorance...hit the link, O misguided One..It's Obama's own webste. http://www.barackobama.com/factcheck/2007/11/12/obama_has_never_been_a_muslim_1.php .
I don't hate you like these fools would have you believe. I love you in spite of your beliefs and deeds. I would like nothing more than to free you from Islam. I agree with Renan, the famous scholar, who, after dedicating himself to understanding Islamic scriptures, wrote, "Muslims were the first victims of Islam. Many times I have observed in my travels that fanaticism comes from a small number of dangerous men who maintain others in the practice of this religion by terror. To liberate the Muslim from his religion is the best service that one can render him."

Second, on Christians ( the majority of you at EIC..myself included)), you are responsible for the awful mess the world is in. Christians have turned a personal relationship with our Creator into an emasculated religion, confused and aimless. In the name of that religion, they have perpetrated inhumanities. Today, for fear of appearing hateful Christians are apparently willing to let a billion people live in virtual slavery, perishing in ignorance and poverty. Tolerance of evil is not a Christian virtue. They are called to be discerning. As I mentioned, I'm a Christian, too..

Third, on secular humanists, liberals, and agnostics (Psylichon & Co.) - you are guilty of the very things you denounce in others. History is as condemning of man separating himself from God as it is of man-made religions establishing themselves as intermediaries to God. The last hundred years have been especially indicting; atheistic doctrines have annihilated more people than all religions combined. Truth is not relative. Yet in today's media, secular humanists judiciously edit under the guise of enlightenment. While irritating, this practice is particularly lethal as it relates to Islam. The errant recasting of the religion as peaceful, the reshaping of jihad into a spiritual struggle, the impression you convey that Islam is tolerant and that the terrorists have corrupted their religion, is wrong. Thousands have died in the wake of your illusions. You are so quick to brand me the hater of ALL Muslims..Do you really believe that or are you only justifing your own finger-pointing?


Fourth, on Islam itself - without deceit and sword, Islam would have been stillborn. A super duper tiny bit of the one billion people subservient to Islam today actually chose their fate. In Mecca, fourteen hundred years ago, after a decade of preaching, as few as fifty men chose to follow Muhammad. But that all changed in Medina. There, according to the Qur'an and Hadith, Muhammad became a political tyrant, a terrorist, and a thief. His willingness to lead seventy-five armed raids against defenseless civilians swelled his ranks as swiftly as the spoils of "war" filled his pockets.

Equipped with goods stolen from others, Muhammad and his followers conquered and then plundered their neighbors, starting with Arabia. The only choice they offered their victims was "your money or your life." Once subjected to their will, Muslims compelled submission under penalty of death. Islam is, and has always been, a doctrine devoid of choice. It prospers at the business end of a bloody sword. Soon you will see why.

The vast preponderance of today's Muslims do not know their prophet or their religion very well. Theirs is a life of ignorance, despair, tyranny, and mind- numbing ritual. They are kept in the dark, purposely deceived, for the benefit of cleric and king. And there is no incentive for them to learn. Exposed to the truth, they would reject Islam, a decision that could cost them their lives. The Qur'an itself confirms this startling reality. In the 5th surah, the final revelation chronologically, Allah ordered Muslims "not to question the Qur'an," for those who did, he said, "discarded their religion." In that light, we should feel good about freeing Muslims from the oppressiveness of Islam. For by freeing them we will free ourselves from the scourge of Islamic terror.

Despite what you've heard in the media, there is but one Islam, a singular correct view of Muhammad, Allah, and Jihad. It is the one printed in the Qur'an and Hadith. There is no independent record of Muhammad in history from which a variant view may be drawn. The Hadith and Qur'an are the sole repository of information on this man, his times, means, and mission. The Muhammad of Islam, the god of Islam, and the religion of Islam must be as these sources present them.

Lastly, Islam has no alibi, no reason to cry, "Unfair." The Qur'an condemns all non-Muslims - Christians and Jews as well as those who worship many gods and no gods. It is an equal opportunity hater. Its attitude toward unbelieving infidels is overwhelmingly hostile. A cursory reading of the first ten surahs is sufficient to prove that the relatively few nice verses were contradicted and replaced, "abrogated" in Muslim parlance, by a staggering number of nasty ones. In fact, the Qur'an was written to justify some of the most ungodly behavior the world has ever known.

The simple truth is: good Muslims are bad people. Islam makes them that way. While there are plenty of "bad" Muslims who are good people, they are as impotent as bad Nazzis in the Third Reich or bad Communists during Stalin's era. The Qur'an defines good and bad Muslims for us. It says a good Muslim is a Jihadist, a man who leaves his home, sacrificing his wealth and life, fighting in Allah's Cause. Allah says they will be rewarded with stolen booty if they survive or with a heavenly bordello if they die. Bad Muslims, on the other hand, are peaceful. Allah calls them "hypocrites" because they are unwilling to fight. He even says that peaceful Muslims are "the most vile of creatures" and that hell's hottest fires await them. If you are a peace-loving Muslim, your god hates you.

Good Muslims, those who read Islam's scriptures long before I cracked their covers, planned, funded, staffed, executed, and celebrated the terrorist attacks of 9/11. They proudly told the world what they were going to do - terrorize Americans and Jews into submission. They boldly proclaimed why they were going to do it - for the advancement of Islam. They even told us who they were - good Muslims. But we ignored their announcements. It was as if on the morning of December 7th 1941, nobody noticed the rising sun insignias on the planes bombing Pearl Harbor. The bombers of September 11th 2001 wore insignias too. Theirs was a crescent moon.
For those who support the politically-inspired notion that terrorism is not condoned by Islam, that terrorists have corrupted an otherwise peaceful religion, consider this. The world's foremost authority on the Qur'an is sheik Abdel Rahman. He was the senior professor of Qur'anic studies at Islam's most prestigious university, Al-Azhar, in Cairo. Today, the sheik is a convicted terrorist, serving time in an American prison for the '93 bombing of the World Trade Center. If the Qur'an espouses peace, that's hard to explain.

These are my final comments on this. I lay it to rest. But please don't think for one god damn minute that I don't know what I'm talking about!
--
OJ

[aggieman]

wow, he's back, and damn that's a long post. looks like some good reading material for my 30 minute sit down on the porcelain throne

welcome back OJ.

[BigCiX]

wow, he's back, and damn that's a long post. looks like some good reading material for my 30 minute sit down on the porcelain throne

welcome back OJ.

i'll be reading that later on at work. Nice to see u back OJ.

[Hayesimus]

OJ... please be careful. Don't get banned again. :p

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[projectdarkside]

OJ...Your awesome bro:2cool:
-Definintely one the of most intelligent members of EiC that I know :)

[psylichon]

I read all of it. This is why I said we should just let Chris take care of OJ, because almost all of us were mistaken on the very reason he was temporarily banned, myself included.

I am going to state here that I will no longer get into religious discussions with OJ on this board. It's obvious where he stands, and it's also very clear he still doesn't understand where I am with my faith. Stands to reason, as I've never told him. OJ, if you want to come to chat some night and have a real discussion on what I believe in, feel free. Until then, you just don't get it so don't even try, ok?

All I will say about my faith is that I do my best to love everyone and everything unconditionally and to show that love day in and day out. If that makes me a naive, foolish person, so be it! It's just how I roll.

[OJsakila]

I read all of it. This is why I said we should just let Chris take care of OJ, because almost all of us were mistaken on the very reason he was temporarily banned, myself included.

I am going to state here that I will no longer get into religious discussions with OJ on this board. It's obvious where he stands, and it's also very clear he still doesn't understand where I am with my faith. Stands to reason, as I've never told him. OJ, if you want to come to chat some night and have a real discussion on what I believe in, feel free. Until then, you just don't get it so don't even try, ok?

All I will say about my faith is that I do my best to love everyone and everything unconditionally and to show that love day in and day out. If that makes me a naive, foolish person, so be it! It's just how I roll.

That's totally cool, too. I am also done with the religious discussions...I much more enjoy our other conversations...I just felt the need to explain myself.....Believe you me...I don't want any more trouble around here...


...at the moment.:wink:

[macgirl]

These are my final comments on this. I lay it to rest. But please don't think for one god damn minute that I don't know what I'm talking about!
--
OJ

Well, I almost fell for it and thought you had some well-thought-out reasons behind your hate until I found this (http://www.prophetofdoom.net/Prophet_of_Doom_Prologue.Islam) and saw that your post is copied almost word for word from this Prophet of Doom website without crediting the original author.

This is the way you try to convince others that you supposedly know what you're talking about? By copying the words of others and passing them off as your own "deep thoughts"? If so, EPIC FAIL. Projectdarkside - you got an LOL cat appropriate for this one? :tounge:

[psylichon]

lol.... wow.

Just.... wow.

[Youngbinks]

Interesting read indeed.

[miggs1310]

wow, copy and paste anyone?

[TyWebb]

http://www.thatvideosite.com/video/3868























... Sorry, had to add a lil humor to the topic. I must have missed the last debate, sorry I missed it.

[TarekElsakka]

Interesting observations, OJ. But you're right, I won't read it. You know why? Because you're trying to make me believe in something else, after seventeen years of being a Muslim, every one around me is a Muslim, reading Qura'an, praying, and believing in Allah can not just change because some guy I met on an online forum doesn't like it. Barack Obama was a Muslim when he was a youngster but then he had to convert (maybe he still didn't) but that's what he has to say in order for the Americans to accept him, the majority of the American population don't like Islam because they think it's a religion of terrorism and that's wrong and misleading. Look at his second name, Hussein is an Islamic name and is written in the Qura'an. Maybe he didn't believe in Islam, but even if your whole family is jew or christian for instance but your father is a Muslim, then you definitely are one even if you don't convert or believe so. I'm not going to argue about that because Obama is not my relative and I have nothing to do or say about him. It's his own beliefs and personal review whether to say he's a Muslim or he isn't, but of course the wisest move (in terms of politics) is to say that you're not Muslim especially when you are running president in a country like the United States of America which has been hit by terrorists before which are said to be Muslims.

I'd like to welcome you back, OJ, because I have nothing against you and as I said before, I don't hate you. Whether you like sarcasm, you hate my religion, or what ever you do - to me you're nothing more than an online buddy who I chat with and try to help in certain occasions.

Thank you for this thread, and I'll repeat, welcome back OJ.

[Starry]

So...


How about them Cowboys.. *twirling hair*..... :)

*Howling*

Sometimes... things are best left unsaid... if you have NOTHING nice to say... Keep your mouth shut Momma always said.... :)

Much love to you all... :)

*snickering*

[aggieman]

So...


How about them Cowboys.. *twirling hair*..... :)

*Howling*

Sometimes... things are best left unsaid... if you have NOTHING nice to say... Keep your mouth shut Momma always said.... :)

Much love to you all... :)

*snickering*

I never listened much to what Momma said...

and oh yes indeed, How bout them Cowboys!

[Starry]

I never listened much to what Momma said...

and oh yes indeed, How bout them Cowboys!

I just tried to break the drama.... it was getting extremely thick in here.. felt there was a much needed "gasp of air" .... And no I didn't fart Aggie TYVM don't even go there slappy! LMAO

OR...

Popcorn was ready.... so in the infamous words of the Cowboys...

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y41/Freefreq/cowboypics/images/TOpopcorn.jpg


*Howling*

[Y-Less]

I was writing a reply so long as 4 topics long, but then I remind me not to merge in religion topics, Anyways. To not spoil it; Welcome back OJ!

[Witness]

Criticizing a religion is something that makes people squeamish, especially in the paranoid culture of political correctness. Christians say that we are to love, not judge. Jews, after millennia of persecution, are terrified of even the perception of intolerance. Secular humanists, in deference to multiculturalism and the peace process, have sacrificed truth on the altar of their political agenda. So why upset everyone?
Why? Because they will continue to kill us if we don't expose them.
Before revealing what the Qur'an and Hadith have to say about Muhammad and Islam, I'd like to clear up a few inevitable misconceptions....

First, on Muslims - (Terek and whomever..) You are wrong. My views on Islam and our conversation had NOTHING to do with my ban. I was banned because I unjustly attacked Alexander and JJ. You are not even American and you claim MY new President a Muslim...I pity your ignorance...hit the link, O misguided One..It's Obama's own webste. http://www.barackobama.com/factcheck/2007/11/12/obama_has_never_been_a_muslim_1.php .
I don't hate you like these fools would have you believe. I love you in spite of your beliefs and deeds. I would like nothing more than to free you from Islam. I agree with Renan, the famous scholar, who, after dedicating himself to understanding Islamic scriptures, wrote, "Muslims were the first victims of Islam. Many times I have observed in my travels that fanaticism comes from a small number of dangerous men who maintain others in the practice of this religion by terror. To liberate the Muslim from his religion is the best service that one can render him."

Second, on Christians ( the majority of you at EIC..myself included)), you are responsible for the awful mess the world is in. Christians have turned a personal relationship with our Creator into an emasculated religion, confused and aimless. In the name of that religion, they have perpetrated inhumanities. Today, for fear of appearing hateful Christians are apparently willing to let a billion people live in virtual slavery, perishing in ignorance and poverty. Tolerance of evil is not a Christian virtue. They are called to be discerning. As I mentioned, I'm a Christian, too..

Third, on secular humanists, liberals, and agnostics (Psylichon & Co.) - you are guilty of the very things you denounce in others. History is as condemning of man separating himself from God as it is of man-made religions establishing themselves as intermediaries to God. The last hundred years have been especially indicting; atheistic doctrines have annihilated more people than all religions combined. Truth is not relative. Yet in today's media, secular humanists judiciously edit under the guise of enlightenment. While irritating, this practice is particularly lethal as it relates to Islam. The errant recasting of the religion as peaceful, the reshaping of jihad into a spiritual struggle, the impression you convey that Islam is tolerant and that the terrorists have corrupted their religion, is wrong. Thousands have died in the wake of your illusions. You are so quick to brand me the hater of ALL Muslims..Do you really believe that or are you only justifing your own finger-pointing?


Fourth, on Islam itself - without deceit and sword, Islam would have been stillborn. A super duper tiny bit of the one billion people subservient to Islam today actually chose their fate. In Mecca, fourteen hundred years ago, after a decade of preaching, as few as fifty men chose to follow Muhammad. But that all changed in Medina. There, according to the Qur'an and Hadith, Muhammad became a political tyrant, a terrorist, and a thief. His willingness to lead seventy-five armed raids against defenseless civilians swelled his ranks as swiftly as the spoils of "war" filled his pockets.

Equipped with goods stolen from others, Muhammad and his followers conquered and then plundered their neighbors, starting with Arabia. The only choice they offered their victims was "your money or your life." Once subjected to their will, Muslims compelled submission under penalty of death. Islam is, and has always been, a doctrine devoid of choice. It prospers at the business end of a bloody sword. Soon you will see why.

The vast preponderance of today's Muslims do not know their prophet or their religion very well. Theirs is a life of ignorance, despair, tyranny, and mind- numbing ritual. They are kept in the dark, purposely deceived, for the benefit of cleric and king. And there is no incentive for them to learn. Exposed to the truth, they would reject Islam, a decision that could cost them their lives. The Qur'an itself confirms this startling reality. In the 5th surah, the final revelation chronologically, Allah ordered Muslims "not to question the Qur'an," for those who did, he said, "discarded their religion." In that light, we should feel good about freeing Muslims from the oppressiveness of Islam. For by freeing them we will free ourselves from the scourge of Islamic terror.

Despite what you've heard in the media, there is but one Islam, a singular correct view of Muhammad, Allah, and Jihad. It is the one printed in the Qur'an and Hadith. There is no independent record of Muhammad in history from which a variant view may be drawn. The Hadith and Qur'an are the sole repository of information on this man, his times, means, and mission. The Muhammad of Islam, the god of Islam, and the religion of Islam must be as these sources present them.

Lastly, Islam has no alibi, no reason to cry, "Unfair." The Qur'an condemns all non-Muslims - Christians and Jews as well as those who worship many gods and no gods. It is an equal opportunity hater. Its attitude toward unbelieving infidels is overwhelmingly hostile. A cursory reading of the first ten surahs is sufficient to prove that the relatively few nice verses were contradicted and replaced, "abrogated" in Muslim parlance, by a staggering number of nasty ones. In fact, the Qur'an was written to justify some of the most ungodly behavior the world has ever known.

The simple truth is: good Muslims are bad people. Islam makes them that way. While there are plenty of "bad" Muslims who are good people, they are as impotent as bad Nazzis in the Third Reich or bad Communists during Stalin's era. The Qur'an defines good and bad Muslims for us. It says a good Muslim is a Jihadist, a man who leaves his home, sacrificing his wealth and life, fighting in Allah's Cause. Allah says they will be rewarded with stolen booty if they survive or with a heavenly bordello if they die. Bad Muslims, on the other hand, are peaceful. Allah calls them "hypocrites" because they are unwilling to fight. He even says that peaceful Muslims are "the most vile of creatures" and that hell's hottest fires await them. If you are a peace-loving Muslim, your god hates you.

Good Muslims, those who read Islam's scriptures long before I cracked their covers, planned, funded, staffed, executed, and celebrated the terrorist attacks of 9/11. They proudly told the world what they were going to do - terrorize Americans and Jews into submission. They boldly proclaimed why they were going to do it - for the advancement of Islam. They even told us who they were - good Muslims. But we ignored their announcements. It was as if on the morning of December 7th 1941, nobody noticed the rising sun insignias on the planes bombing Pearl Harbor. The bombers of September 11th 2001 wore insignias too. Theirs was a crescent moon.
For those who support the politically-inspired notion that terrorism is not condoned by Islam, that terrorists have corrupted an otherwise peaceful religion, consider this. The world's foremost authority on the Qur'an is sheik Abdel Rahman. He was the senior professor of Qur'anic studies at Islam's most prestigious university, Al-Azhar, in Cairo. Today, the sheik is a convicted terrorist, serving time in an American prison for the '93 bombing of the World Trade Center. If the Qur'an espouses peace, that's hard to explain.

These are my final comments on this. I lay it to rest. But please don't think for one god damn minute that I don't know what I'm talking about!
--
OJ


http://images.bigfail.com/i/f/10/00/081.jpg

[Hondamaker]

This is the way you try to convince others that you supposedly know what you're talking about? By copying the words of others and passing them off as your own "deep thoughts"? Hey, we all learn the things we learn from one source or another, whether it's the 'net, a book, the tv, newspaper, etc. You can't say he doesn't know what he's talking about unless he learned nothing from what he read. Hell, I know more about that stuff now than I did 20 mins ago! Ow, for me to copy and paste that info somewhere doesn't mean squat, it just means I was too lazy to put it all in my own words. Just my 2 cents. :wink:

[iCafe]

Welcome Back Orange Juice!
now go take a long drive off a short cliff

[TarekElsakka]

Welcome Back Orange Juice!
now go take a long drive off a short cliff

Hahaha LOL!!!

[aknightstale41]

Hey, we all learn the things we learn from one source or another, whether it's the 'net, a book, the tv, newspaper, etc. You can't say he doesn't know what he's talking about unless he learned nothing from what he read. Hell, I know more about that stuff now than I did 20 mins ago! Ow, for me to copy and paste that info somewhere doesn't mean squat, it just means I was too lazy to put it all in my own words. Just my 2 cents. :wink:
I agree, the consciouness that directs us to do something is merely using a vehicle (copy/paste) to convey what rings true from within...maybe that was he best way it found to express itself.

[Velodog2]

Well, on the one hand if he didn't write it himself it's a relief as it is a useless load of crap not worth reading. But then, if he thought it was worthy of the effort of copying and pasting, and taking credit for, then oh well. I've been following this guys posts and he ain't worth the electrons he's wasting making them.

[up10ad]

Balderdash. No excuses please. Posting written material originally composed by someone else without attribution and suggesting that it is ones own is plagiarism (http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/plagiarism) plain and simple. In this instance the plagiarist clearly makes the suggestion that the ideas are his own ("These are my final comments on this. I lay it to rest. But please don't think for one god damn minute that I don't know what I'm talking about!"). At a minimum, OJ conveniently forgot his responsibility to reference the source of his material. :mad:

[Hawk]

Well, far be it for me to criticize anyone for their beliefs or points of view...(OK, I have been know to occasionally) but I find that politics and religious discussions are best left for politicians and theologians. That doesn't mean turn a blind eye to things around you, just means that everyone has a point of view, and generally it's not always going to jive with yours.
To argue - no matter what the reference material, is not the same as educate, as it will most assuredly fall on deaf ears.
I find the information OJ posted, a little informative, and maybe a little biased, and maybe a little scary. In this day and age of digital information, it is very easy to be mis-informed. I have a friend of mine that believes that Satanists run the worlds large corporations, (german group that starts with N from WWII) ****s still control the drug companies, and that the world is heading for a meltdown very soon. ( I can see that last one being possible, actually) He cites all sorts of information and documentation, but when you cut down to the nitty-gritty of it all, he's citing other people's opinions who have made their hypothesis based on things that they have twisted to their perception. I'm not saying that all of it is bunk, or true, just very skewed.
All that said, knowledge is simply applied information. If the information is not accurate or is skewed, then the knowledge can be only particially true, or completely false, or even lead to some outlandish conclusions.
Take anything you find on the net or see in the news for what it's worth. Take arguements for what they are worth. Love your fellow man equally for the things in we have in common and the things that makes us individuals, and enjoy the freedom that comes with it.

[iCafe]

http://insultants.files.wordpress.com/2008/04/epic-fail2.jpg

[projectdarkside]

^^
-AHAHAHA!!!:tounge:

[up10ad]

...and the display is showing a view from the camera.

[OJsakila]

Jesus I stepped into it this time. Yes I copy and pasted. It shouldn't have been some big secret considering it was my longest post ever without a single misspelling. Regardless, I was wrong since it totally nullifies any point I was trying to make. However, I'm not trying to get a grade in some class or write a book or anything, I was just trying share information in a ten minute window I had on the computer..

Now the true irony in this whole progression starts to pan out now that you've made me do my homework on the subject. Every single person that posted pictures in this thread is guilty of copyright infringement.http://www.everythingicafe.com/forum/off-topic/everyones-picture-from-icafe-28997.html?highlight=everyones

Since 1998, it doesn't matter if it says "copyrighten" or not, it's assumed that it is. Look it up yourself..once again I'm not going to link that info to you... Of course my hatred here at EIC (you can call it popularity if you like) encourages you to overlook others at my expense. No one is perfect. As a matter of fact, I am properly the number one poster around here that acknowledges and says that I'm wrong when I am. Accompanied with apologies, as well.

Everyone screws up and I have no excuse why I didn't link back to my site. And because I wasted a great opportunity to share some wisdom about what's really going on in the world, I'll take it as a loss but can't help thinking you guys are the real losers here with how the truth is so conveniently covered up yet again...



I will promise to try and change my "attitude" around here. I have been humbled.

[TarekElsakka]

I guess that's just another topic going to hell soon. Like all the other unnecessary (spam) threads.

Sorry about that, OJ.

[projectdarkside]

Out before the Lock...

[acosmichippo]

there's quite a difference between posting WELL KNOWN "fail pics" (btw, it is simple enough to check the URL of the picture) and posting 4-5 paragraphs of someone else's thoughts and beliefs with no credit to the source.

i can't believe anyone is actually attempting to justify it.

[OJsakila]

there's quite a difference between posting WELL KNOWN "fail pics" (btw, it is simple enough to check the URL of the picture) and posting 4-5 paragraphs of someone else's thoughts and beliefs with no credit to the source.

i can't believe anyone is actually attempting to justify it.


No no. I'm not justifying.....I WAS WRONG. You get no argument from me.



And I'm not taliking about the "fail" pics...however they are included.

[acosmichippo]

not you, but others that consistently share your opinions were.

[Hondamaker]

Balderdash. No excuses please. Posting written material originally composed by someone else without attribution and suggesting that it is ones own is plagiarism (http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/plagiarism) plain and simple. In this instance the plagiarist clearly makes the suggestion that the ideas are his own ("These are my final comments on this. I lay it to rest. But please don't think for one god damn minute that I don't know what I'm talking about!"). At a minimum, OJ conveniently forgot his responsibility to reference the source of his material. :mad:Rick, I don't think he said those were his own thoughts. If he did, I missed it. I know what I'm talking about when it comes to a few things, and if I got the chance to copy and paste a large description of what I meant, I would, rather than type it all.

[Hondamaker]

there's quite a difference between posting WELL KNOWN "fail pics" (btw, it is simple enough to check the URL of the picture) and posting 4-5 paragraphs of someone else's thoughts and beliefs with no credit to the source.

i can't believe anyone is actually attempting to justify it.My sig is from a movie, but I didn't credit the source. We can't always keep giving credit to the sources we get our knowledge or ideas from. Oh well, everyone's entitled to their opinion.

[psylichon]

Jack, you will defend OJ to the end because you both share similar views politically. That's cool and all, but seriously... he effed up this time. He knows it. We all know it. I'm frankly embarrassed for him that this thread keeps getting bumped (sorry, OJ), so why don't we just let it die the quiet death it deserves?

[Hondamaker]

Jack, you will defend OJ to the end because you both share similar views politically. That's cool and all, but seriously... he effed up this time. He knows it. We all know it. I'm frankly embarrassed for him that this thread keeps getting bumped (sorry, OJ), so why don't we just let it die the quiet death it deserves?Yeah, ok. :embarrassed:

[OJsakila]

I DID make a response on the previous page concerning this situation. No doubt I went the wrong way in conveying a message... Whatever...it was enough to remove focus from what was really important that I was trying to say...and took the air right out of my sails... I feel like Inspector Klueso...Capt. NumbNuts! Crash and burn

[up10ad]

Rick, I don't think he said those were his own thoughts. If he did, I missed it. Jack, you are right, he didn't actually say those were his own WORDS, but even he admits that the implication was there. They are however his thoughts on the the matter I think he'd agree.

Dave suggests that you and OJ share some political views, and I fall into that category as well. From my perspective, that has nothing to do with whether or not I take offense at the manner in which OJ made his views known. And for the record, I'm not ready to buy this specific view on Islam and Muslims, and I find it offensive.

OJ, let's keep seeing your comments here, but perhaps moderated a bit. I bet you still have some valuable contributions to make and I look forward to them.

[aknightstale41]

I DID make a response on the previous page concerning this situation. No doubt I went the wrong way in conveying a message... Whatever...it was enough to remove focus from what was really important that I was trying to say...and took the air right out of my sails... I feel like Inspector Klueso...Capt. NumbNuts! Crash and burn

Its all good OJ, life is too short to care about others opinions of us...
play alittle touch football with the kid and you'll be back to your ole self....
:wink:

[iCafe]

http://46an2.com/b3n/pics/funneh/fail_thread.jpg

[iCafe]

http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x48/muppet1010/persistent-fail.jpg

[Napoleon_PhoneApart]

OJ...Your awesome bro:2cool:
-Definintely one the of most intelligent members of EiC that I know :)

Long posts are not necessarily an indication of intelligence, whomever's they may be.

I'm going to sound like my father here (sorry), but I think that so many of our youth are accustomed to their reading in bite-sized pieces that anything over ten lines long is considered a masterwork. :smile:

[coasts]

Long posts are not necessarily an indication of intelligence, whomever's they may be.

I'm going to sound like my father here (sorry), but I think that so many of our youth are accustomed to their reading in bite-sized pieces that anything over ten lines long is considered a masterwork. :smile:

Hocus Pocus

[TarekElsakka]

Long posts are not necessarily an indication of intelligence, whomever's they may be.

I'm going to sound like my father here (sorry), but I think that so many of our youth are accustomed to their reading in bite-sized pieces that anything over ten lines long is considered a masterwork. :smile:

Especially when all (or to be fair, most) of what was written in his post is plagiarized (Copied and Pasted) roflmao.

[Youngbinks]

Hocus Pocus

I love that movie. Back when Sarah Jessica Parker was somewhat attractive.

[Napoleon_PhoneApart]

I love that movie. Back when Sarah Jessica Parker was somewhat attractive.

Oh. I thought he was referring to the tune by Focus.

[Indy]

Haha, Hey everyone!

I dunno what the hell everyone's talking about but I'll take this time to post a fail pic! Fail pics are awesome!!! :tounge:

http://t4toby.files.wordpress.com/2008/07/epicfail1.jpg

[coasts]

Oh. I thought he was referring to the tune by Focus.

actually, i was referring to the book. i dont know the movie or the song. decent book though.

[Youngbinks]

Haha wow. At least we were both wrong Nap.

[acosmichippo]

Yodelayeeah bum bah!

[Hondamaker]

actually, i was referring to the book. i dont know the movie or the song. decent book though.Decent movie, horrible song.

[acosmichippo]

That song is great.

[iCafe]

actually, i was referring to the book. i dont know the movie or the song. decent book though.
I assumed you were referring to OJ's epic Fail.

[Napoleon_PhoneApart]

The tune rules.

[Hondamaker]

That song is great.
That's the song where the singer sounds like he's yodeling in parts, right?

[Napoleon_PhoneApart]

Yep. That's the one.

[projectdarkside]

Oh that one haha!!
-If you've ever watched mtv you would have definitely seen it :tounge:

[Napoleon_PhoneApart]

I was enjoying it before there was MTV!

[Buffy]

I assumed you were referring to OJ's epic Fail.

You know I love you, but you still cannot compete with OJ. You both have a place, but you or anyone else will not replace him!

[aggieman]

You know I love you, but you still cannot compete with OJ. You both have a place, but you or anyone else will not replace him!

moi?? :frown:

[Buffy]

moi?? :frown:

You'd come close. :wink: I love me some Aggie.

[Swagger]

Well, I almost fell for it and thought you had some well-thought-out reasons behind your hate until I found this (http://www.prophetofdoom.net/Prophet_of_Doom_Prologue.Islam) and saw that your post is copied almost word for word from this Prophet of Doom website without crediting the original author.

This is the way you try to convince others that you supposedly know what you're talking about? By copying the words of others and passing them off as your own "deep thoughts"? If so, EPIC FAIL. Projectdarkside - you got an LOL cat appropriate for this one? :tounge:

Let me get this right OJ is an acquitted murder suspect, convicted armed robber kidnapper, foolish old man and now to add to the list Plagiarist??? Wow...Mark

[OJsakila]

Let me get this right OJ is an acquitted murder suspect, convicted armed robber kidnapper, foolish old man and now to add to the list Plagiarist??? Wow...Mark

Aint that Classic? Good stuff around here you're missing, Mark!:tounge: