Don't Believe The Lies!!! BB Storm vs iPhone

[Swagger]

As a seasoned iPhone veteran. I never thought I would say this. The BlackBerry Storm is now my phone of choice. The BB Storm is the most well put together well thought out phone/PDA I have had in years. The interface is packed with features and easy to navigate. Having Cut & Paste, MMS and a serious camera/video device are welcomed features.

I have been loving this phone since my purchase yesterday. The only thing that could have been better is the included software. iTunes intergates all aspects of sync into one program BB desktop manager does not. I was truly impressed with opening an email attachment (a photograph) that immediately opened in full screen crisp and clear view. The Storm's screen is large, viewable and great to use just as is the iPhone's screen. You will find no cramped congested feeling as with the HTC Diamond, HTC Touch Pro or HTC G1.

I also like having to press the touch screen down to open a selected choice. No more inadvertent opening of a function do to errant screen touch. The sound quality of the storm during music playback is just as good or better than the iPhone.

Seperate email icons on the home screen prevent sifting through many different email clients to find which one has new mail. Instant messaging via chat clients (GTalk, Yahoo IM, Windows Live & AOL) is in real time. There is Flickr and Facebook and a host of other useful apps factory loaded.

The call quality is clear, clear and loud just as is the speaker phone. Email notification and ringer volume is also loud enough to be heard while in pocket. There are three different keyboards to suit whichever is to your liking. The battery is user changeable so is the Micro SD memory (8GB's included).

RIM may have been the last to come to market with a touch screen but they took their time and got it right. The Storm is a wonderful phone/PDA that offers all that Windows Mobile Devices (OS not made for touch screen), Palm Devices (OS outdated), Android Device (OS has promise but still young) and The iPhone (OS great but lacking common features) does not. The jury for me is still out on no wifi but Verizon's EVDO network has been fast.

I won't be giving up my iPhone anytime soon (just because I feel a connection with it) but it has certainly taken a back seat to The Storm. In my opinion RIM has scored an out of the park grand slam, home run with The Storm. Mark

[aenti]

Great review Mark, I enjoyed it.

[OJsakila]

I thought you left. Maybe I imagined all that...

Anyway, this is where you should be posting your "review".... http://www.everythingberry.com/forum/

[Napoleon_PhoneApart]

The reviews I've seen and read aren't quite as rosy.

There must be quite a few liars out there, then.

[aknightstale41]

Interesting...you've got my curiosity piqued mark, i will have to check out the storm firsthand when i get a chance...my biggest thing would probably be the touch screen, it would have to be nearly identical to the iphone's in responsiveness, clarity and just plain velvety smoothness...we shall see.

[dturner]

the reviews i've seen and read aren't quite as rosy.

There must be quite a few liars out there, then.


3984........

[Swagger]

Interesting...you've got my curiosity piqued mark, i will have to check out the storm firsthand when i get a chance...my biggest thing would probably be the touch screen, it would have to be nearly identical to the iphone's in responsiveness, clarity and just plain velvety smoothness...we shall see.

The Storms screen is a bit different from the iPhone. You highlight the desired option with your finger turning it blue then press down (feels like it's spring loaded). I was surprised at the clarity and brilliance seeing that the pixel count is much lower than the iPhone.

You will love it if you get one. It also feels very good in your hand. I am not bashing the iPhone. I am just comparing the two. Right now in my mind the BB is on top. Lots more serious features. Mark

[Swagger]

BTW: To be. Completely honest in my comparison. I have to say the iPhone Safari browser is still KING of the mobile browsers. My G1's Opera browser comes close but nothing like Safari to date. The Storm's browser is pretty sad no doubt about that. I'm posting from my iPhone. Mark

[aenti]

Wait a second. A G1, Storm, and an iPhone?
Ladies and gentleman, we have a phone-whore ;)

[Swagger]

I'll be enteriing "Technology Rehab" after the holidays. Shhh don't tell anyone. I have the HTC Touch Pro (hate it) hidden in my left top pocket.. I must stop this it's getting to be ridiculous. Mark

[aenti]

I am incredibly jealous. I've been saving up money to feed my "addiction," actually. :)

[BigCiX]

I've read mixed views on this phone as well. Still have yet to get my hands on one cause the stores have no demos on the floor. I think it'll get better as time goes on.

[up10ad]

Thanks for the info Mark. The things that give me pause are your comments about the browser (it is so important to me!) and even more so, the lack of WiFi. I am in an area without decent EVDO or even 3G coverage. I MUST have WiFi.

[Witness]

Well Mark if you ever feel like giving away that htc pro I'll be more than glad to accept it.

:)

[kdarling]

I was surprised at the clarity and brilliance seeing that the pixel count is much lower than the iPhone.

You're backwards.

The Storm has a higher pixel count and more PPI than the iPhone.

Storm = 360x480 in a 3.25" area (184 ppi)
iPhone= 320x480 in a 3.50" area (163 ppi)

[Swagger]

You're backwards.

The Storm has a higher pixel count and more PPI than the iPhone.

Storm = 360x480 in a 3.25" area (184 ppi)
iPhone= 320x480 in a 3.50" area (163 ppi)

I must pay more attention to the spec sheet. Now I see why the screen on The Storm is so vibrant. I tweaked the browser settings and am now seeing a much better browser. Still can't compare to Safari but the Storm browser is a good browser (after tweaking). I only use the Touch Pro for the Microsoft Office Mobile apps when on the fly.

All in all the iPhone is great in what it does and so is the Storm. I am truly surprised that being a totally new product. The Storm is very stable and I as of yet have not seen any bugs or glitches. I don't know where all the bad reviews are coming from. Maybe the writers were looking for a mini super computer instead of a PDA/phone.

As A Footnote: Anyone thinking of purchasing the HTC Diamond or Touch Pro beware. The Diamond has no removable memory (4GB's internal memory). After doing a hard reset (which doesn't work, have to do a memory format) (like so often is needed by Win Mo devices) the Diamond stops seeing the 4GB's of internal memory. You are then stuck with the system memory of 256MB's. The Touch Pro also has this problem but has removable memory and is much easier to resolve the problem.

[iksn]

I must pay more attention to the spec sheet. Now I see why the screen on The Storm is so vibrant. I tweaked the browser settings and am now seeing a much better browser. Still can't compare to Safari but the Storm browser is a good browser (after tweaking). I only use the Touch Pro for the Microsoft Office Mobile apps when on the fly.

All in all the iPhone is great in what it does and so is the Storm. I am truly surprised that being a totally new product. The Storm is very stable and I as of yet have not seen any bugs or glitches. I don't know where all the bad reviews are coming from. Maybe the writers were looking for a mini super computer instead of a PDA/phone.

As A Footnote: Anyone thinking of purchasing the HTC Diamond or Touch Pro beware. The Diamond has no removable memory (4GB's internal memory). After doing a hard reset (which doesn't work, have to do a memory format) (like so often is needed by Win Mo devices) the Diamond stops seeing the 4GB's of internal memory. You are then stuck with the system memory of 256MB's. The Touch Pro also has this problem but has removable memory and is much easier to resolve the problem.

I have a new mini super computer I carry around with me, it's called a Jaguar. It was named that because it is so fast. The problem is, it's just a little to big to fit in my pocket.
Still working on that problem...........:2cool:

http://www-lb.nccs.gov/wp-content/uploads/2007/10/jaguar_pagebanner.jpg

[TarekElsakka]

I'll be enteriing "Technology Rehab" after the holidays. Shhh don't tell anyone. I have the HTC Touch Pro (hate it) hidden in my left top pocket.. I must stop this it's getting to be ridiculous. Mark

Hahaha, and each phone is a different brand huh. I have four phones. Three Nokia phones (N81 8GB, N95, N73 Music Edition) and one iPhone 3G. xD

[jarofclay73]

Swagger - you gotta check out the HTC Fuze. The build quality is SO much better than the G1! If you could put Android on the Fuze that would be something! And I like the keyboard better than the G1.

I generally like the BlackBerrys (Bold/Storm) but the menu system is so foreign to me and not intuitive at all. I don't like the GPS software. Takes a bit to get my current location. The shift key on the keyboard is way too low for my tastes as well.

[TeraNova]

Great review... I love the idea of a click screen. Can you confirm if the Storm has wi-fi support?

[TarekElsakka]

Great review... I love the idea of a click screen. Can you confirm if the Storm has wi-fi support?

It does not.

[Swagger]

I received an alert on my BB Storm today. I unholstered it to find the red message indicator flashing and a Yahoo icon on the home screen. Imagine that REAL TIME instant messaging at it's finest. The iPhone can do that. Can't it??? :foot: LOL, Mark

[coasts]

i have a blackberry. it notifies me of things all the time. unfortunately, its so complicated to use it that i simply prefer not to.

on the other hand, i utilize every function of my iphone, if only because it's so easy to.

[Swagger]

i have a blackberry. it notifies me of things all the time. unfortunately, its so complicated to use it that i simply prefer not to.

on the other hand, i utilize every function of my iphone, if only because it's so easy to.

Funny you mentioned that. The Verizon Rep and I were just saying yesterday. People say the iPhone does not have enough features. On the other hand people are slamming the Storm for having to many features thus making it to complicated to use. We joked that people are never satisfied. Mark

Coasts I know what your problem is. You don't put your iPhone down long enough to learn your BB....:laugh2:

[coasts]

Coasts I know what your problem is. You don't put your iPhone down long enough to learn your BB....:laugh2:

honestly, i had the blackberry first...just never became attached to it. for me, and only me, the iphone has more features than i would have thought to ask for. given the chance to add something to it, i would struggle to make a suggestion.

regardless, hope your enjoy your mobile device all the same.

[Swagger]

honestly, i had the blackberry first...just never became attached to it. for me, and only me, the iphone has more features than i would have thought to ask for. given the chance to add something to it, i would struggle to make a suggestion.

regardless, hope your enjoy your mobile device all the same.

I will be the first to admit and agree with you. Ease of use does belong to the iPhone...Mark

[Napoleon_PhoneApart]

I would never upholster a cell phone. That's tacky.

[projectdarkside]

I would never upholster a cell phone. That's tacky.Haha that's sounds so funny LOL!
-I guess people think that upholstering thier phone will raise or keep the value as if it were some jewelry :tounge:

[Swagger]

I would never upholster a cell phone. That's tacky.

Damn that spell check always decides what I want to say...M

[jarofclay73]

Damn that spell check always decides what I want to say...M

Is that SureType? :tounge:... just kidding! :laugh2:

[TarekElsakka]

Damn that spell check always decides what I want to say...M

Swagger, I've seen a lot of your posts in really old threads, some of them (or actually most) end with ...M, what does that mean?

[jarofclay73]

Swagger, I've seen a lot of your posts in really old threads, some of them (or actually most) end with ...M, what does that mean?

The Swami says it stands for... Mark! :2cool:

[TarekElsakka]

Ahh!! I also figured it was his name but I wasn't sure. I thought names were written two columns after the sentence lol. Like this..

Tarek.

[Napoleon_PhoneApart]

Ahh!! I also figured it was his name but I wasn't sure. I thought names were written two columns after the sentence lol. Like this..

Tarek.

Not always.


















Kevin

[TarekElsakka]

Hahahaha okay mate :D.

I like you man, you're funny and smart. Really. Most of your posts are meant to be funny and stuff, but sometimes you become really serious which is what I can't understand. Maybe you do that in threads that go too far or are pointless?

[greenjbhsd]

I have been looking into this phone recently as well, mostly because SLC is an ATT saturated area but somehow call quality BLOWS hard. Anyway. Most of the reviews I have been reading (to mirror someone above) have not been all that good, or luke warm at best.

Here is the recent one from boy genious just to illustrate:
http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2008/11/20/verizon-blackberry-storm-review/

[chris]

Might as well throw my BlackBerry Storm Review (http://www.everythingberry.com/articles/2008/12/1/blackberry-storm-review/) into the fray.

[Napoleon_PhoneApart]

Hahahaha okay mate :D.

I like you man, you're funny and smart. Really. Most of your posts are meant to be funny and stuff, but sometimes you become really serious which is what I can't understand. Maybe you do that in threads that go too far or are pointless?

I tend to be a bit capricious, Tarek.

I'm going through a particularly rough time right now, but I've always found that humor is good for everybody.

I don't get too serious too often here because -- and let's get serious here -- I don't know any of you from Adam.

[chris]

I tend to be a bit capricious, Tarek.

I'm going through a particularly rough time right now, but I've always found that humor is good for everybody.

I don't get too serious too often here because -- and let's get serious here -- I don't know any of you from Adam.

Who is Adam? Is he a member here or one of the other sites you frequent.:laugh2:

[TarekElsakka]

I guess Adam (Adan)'s the first person born on earth, him and Eva? :D.

And bro, I hope everything goes well for you soon. You're one of the greatest people I've met online and hopefully everything will go smoothly as soon as possible. Good luck to you my friend.

Tarek.

[Swagger]

I have been looking into this phone recently as well, mostly because SLC is an ATT saturated area but somehow call quality BLOWS hard. Anyway. Most of the reviews I have been reading (to mirror someone above) have not been all that good, or luke warm at best.

Here is the recent one from boy genious just to illustrate:
http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2008/11/20/verizon-blackberry-storm-review/

Verizon has a 30 day "Test Drive" you can buy The Storm, check it out for 30 days, return it for a full refund if it doesn't meet your needs. Also if you are new to Verizon you will owe NOTHING for minutes used. What better way to seriously check out a phone for yourself and not the reviews??? Mark

[Swagger]

I tend to be a bit capricious, Tarek.

I'm going through a particularly rough time right now, but I've always found that humor is good for everybody.

I don't get too serious too often here because -- and let's get serious here -- I don't know any of you from Adam.

Sir,
Whatever is going wrong in your life. I truly hope things get better for you. Remember if you ever need to just talk all of us here at EIC are here for you. Good luck my friend...Mark

[chris]

BTW, Mark we have a seat waiting for you at the BlackBerry forums (http://www.everythingberry.com/forum) @ EB.

[Swagger]

BTW, Mark we have a seat waiting for you at the BlackBerry forums (http://www.everythingberry.com/forum) @ EB.

Thank you sir. I will be there very soon as in this week... Mark

[Napoleon_PhoneApart]

Who is Adam? Is he a member here or one of the other sites you frequent.:laugh2:

He's the only other person I know, smart-aleck. :laugh2:

I kept it clean because I know you have the power of bannage.

[Napoleon_PhoneApart]

I guess Adam (Adan)'s the first person born on earth, him and Eva? :D.

And bro, I hope everything goes well for you soon. You're one of the greatest people I've met online and hopefully everything will go smoothly as soon as possible. Good luck to you my friend.

Tarek.

Thanks for the good thoughts, Tarek.

And I am the best person you've met online. :smile:

[TarekElsakka]

Thanks for the good thoughts, Tarek.

And I am the best person you've met online. :smile:

Hahahaha. Meet them all first then decide. :tounge:

You're welcome by the way.

[Hondamaker]

As a seasoned iPhone veteran. I never thought I would say this. The BlackBerry Storm is now my phone of choice. The BB Storm is the most well put together well thought out phone/PDA I have had in years. The interface is packed with features and easy to navigate. Having Cut & Paste, MMS and a serious camera/video device are welcomed features.

I have been loving this phone since my purchase yesterday. The only thing that could have been better is the included software. iTunes intergates all aspects of sync into one program BB desktop manager does not. I was truly impressed with opening an email attachment (a photograph) that immediately opened in full screen crisp and clear view. The Storm's screen is large, viewable and great to use just as is the iPhone's screen. You will find no cramped congested feeling as with the HTC Diamond, HTC Touch Pro or HTC G1.

I also like having to press the touch screen down to open a selected choice. No more inadvertant opening of a function do to errant screen touch. The sound quality of the storm during music playback is just as good or better than the iPhone.

Seperate email icons on the home screen prevent sifting through many different email clients to find which one has new mail. Instant messaging via chat clients (GTalk, Yahoo IM, Windows Live & AOL) is in real time. There is Flickr and Facebook and a host of other useful apps factory loaded.

The call quality is clear, clear and loud just as is the speaker phone. Email notification and ringer volume is also loud enough to be heard while in pocket. There are three different keyboards to suit whichever is to your liking. The battery is user changeable so is the Micro SD memory (8GB's included).

RIM may have been the last to come to market with a touch screen but they took their time and got it right. The Storm is a wonderful phone/PDA that offers all that Windows Mobile Devices (OS not made for touch screen), Palm Devices (OS outdated), Android Device (OS has promise but still young) and The iPhone (OS great but lacking common features) does not. The jury for me is still out on no wifi but Verizon's EVDO network has been fast.

I won't be giving up my iPhone anytime soon (just because I feel a connection with it) but it has certainly taken a back seat to The Storm. In my opinion RIM has scored an out of the park grandslam homerun with The Storm. MarkNice review, Mark, and now that Apple has had time to study the Storm, I'm sure they will compensate somehow, and try to keep the iPhone on top. Gotta love competition!

[Swagger]

Nice review, Mark, and now that Apple has had time to study the Storm, I'm sure they will compensate somehow, and try to keep the iPhone on top. Gotta love competition!

You are right Cut & Paste may now become a reality for iPhone. Thanks for the Kudos on the review I wrote. I tried to be "Fair & Balanced" (hmm where have I heard that before)??? Mark

[Hondamaker]

You are right Cut & Paste may now become a reality for iPhone. Thanks for the Kudos on the review I wrote. I tried to be "Fair & Balanced" (hmm where have I heard that before)??? MarkHaha, sounds like Fox news!

[danipoak]

I am just curious, all you people with multiple phones, how do you keep all your numbers straight? Why pay for so many cell services from so many different companies?

[JoeT]

I received an alert on my BB Storm today. I unholstered it to find the red message indicator flashing and a Yahoo icon on the home screen. Imagine that REAL TIME instant messaging at it's finest. The iPhone can do that. Can't it??? :foot: LOL, Mark

GAH -- I don't see that as a benefit... I don't WANT to be available on IM all the time. 90% of the time, IM is an interruption to whatever I am doing.

[Swagger]

GAH -- I don't see that as a benefit... I don't WANT to be available on IM all the time. 90% of the time, IM is an interruption to whatever I am doing.

The point I was making is that it can be done if you need it or want it...Mark

[Swagger]

I am just curious, all you people with multiple phones, how do you keep all your numbers straight? Why pay for so many cell services from so many different companies?

The only logical answer I can give you is. We are geeks we love technology and all it has to offer. Many of us have been sucked into the better, stronger, faster, do more cell phone/PDA wars currently taking place. Mark

[dwp1975]

I am just curious, all you people with multiple phones, how do you keep all your numbers straight? Why pay for so many cell services from so many different companies?

I do it to keep my personal life seperate from my work life, so if I want to completely shut out work but up to date on my personal stuff I leave the work phone at home or turned off. And being a phone whore has alittle bit to do with it as well..lol:tounge:

[Swagger]

I am not sure who the photographer of this photograph is. I wish I knew so I could give them credit for their work. The photographer whomever he or she is could have sold this photo to RIM for the home screen of the Storm and made a fortune. Do you agree???

P.S. I changed the bottom photo to B&W for those that like B&W. Once again this photograph was NOT taken by me.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3061/3079791007_756f895170.jpg?v=0

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3044/3080626832_3ccba02557.jpg?v=0

[iksn]

I received an alert on my BB Storm today. I unholstered it to find the red message indicator flashing and a Yahoo icon on the home screen. Imagine that REAL TIME instant messaging at it's finest. The iPhone can do that. Can't it??? :foot: LOL, Mark

Was that last sentence a question or a scarcastic remark? If it was a question, ofcourse the answer is yes. Duh.... Beejive and Palringo both send you an email or text message telling you have an IM. No, there is no red light. Oh well, I've had several Blackberrys that have the red light.

[Swagger]

Was that last sentence a question or a scarcastic remark? If it was a question, ofcourse the answer is yes. Duh.... Beejive and Palringo both send you an email or text message telling you have an IM. No, there is no red light. Oh well, I've had several Blackberrys that have the red light.

You must have not read the part "Instant Messaging" at it's finest. The key word is INSTANT. Mark

[iksn]

Oh, I read and understood it. I do know the difference. I was being slightly scarcastic myself.

[dwp1975]

My Storm ships next week so your positive review mark has me excited again about the device. Amist all the negative reviews I was lukewarm about it.

[Swagger]

My Storm ships next week so your positive review mark has me excited again about the device. Amist all the negative reviews I was lukewarm about it.

Glad to hear that. It will take a bit getting used to but once you get comfortable with it. You will love it!!! Mark

[TarekElsakka]

A friend of mine who works as the CM in a company that produces Mobile Games tried a BlackBerry Storm (9500) today because they received it so they would start making games and stuff for it. He heard from a lot of people that its screen can not be scratched, nothing can happen to it. I SWEAR, he actually took the risk of bringing a knife and scratching the screen, NOTHING HAPPENED. No scratches or whatever LOL!

Isn't that insane?

[projectdarkside]

Seriously:eek:
-I gotta see this for myself, because from the reviews I've read they say that when you press the storms screen it kinda caves in to make it feel more "keyboardy":gasp:

[Napoleon_PhoneApart]

Seriously:eek:
-I gotta see this for myself, because from the reviews I've read they say that when you press the storms screen it kinda caves in to make it feel more "keyboardy":gasp:

It does. I pressed on a Storm screen today at Best Buy (the phone wasn't operational).

[dwp1975]

Got my tracking number this morning and my storm is expected to arrive Tuesday. Yay!!!

[TarekElsakka]

Got my tracking number this morning and my storm is expected to arrive Tuesday. Yay!!!

Congratulations mate. I hope you keep us updated and also tell us which phone (iPhone or Storm) is easier and better in usage.

[Swagger]

Got my tracking number this morning and my storm is expected to arrive Tuesday. Yay!!!

The reason for the delay was not really an "Out of Stock" issue. RIM found certain "Bugs" in the software and decided to correct them "In House" instead of having customers go through the hassle. I commend RIM for that. Verizon is shipping me a new Storm and I should get it Monday. My Storm had a glitch that it would not update. Also in the latest edition of software which I'm sure will be on your Storm is the ability to update the OS over the air instead of hooking to a computer.

As I said, don't expect the ease of use out of the box that the iPhone has. You will need a good couple of days to get use to it. The transition will be easier if you have already owned BlackBerry's and are familiar with their OS. You will find in a couple days you will be a Storm expert.

If you have any questions or need any help post in this thread or PM me and I will help you all that I can...Happy Holidays...Mark

[dwp1975]

The reason for the delay was not really an "Out of Stock" issue. RIM found certain "Bugs" in the software and decided to correct them "In House" instead of having customers go through the hassle. I commend RIM for that. Verizon is shipping me a new Storm and I should get it Monday. My Storm had a glitch that it would not update. Also in the latest edition of software which I'm sure will be on your Storm is the ability to update the OS over the air instead of hooking to a computer.

As I said, don't expect the ease of use out of the box that the iPhone has. You will need a good couple of days to get use to it. The transition will be easier if you have already owned BlackBerry's and are familiar with their OS. You will find in a couple days you will be a Storm expert.

If you have any questions or need any help post in this thread or PM me and I will help you all that I can...Happy Holidays...Mark

Thanks Mark, I have been a Blackberry user for a few years so I am good to go with their UI, but I will definately ping you with questions, questions, questions once I get it in my hands Tuesday. May even ask to work from home that day so I can get it as soon as they deliver it lol.

[kdarling]

It does. I pressed on a Storm screen today at Best Buy (the phone wasn't operational).

Btw, was it a dummy phone? I was pleasantly surprised to notice that the real device's screen clicks much easier than the dummies.

It was a little humorous to watch people who didn't know about the Storm, playing with them. They would lightly move their fingers over the menus, but couldn't figure out how to make them work.

When I started clicking the one I was testing, though, they picked up on it right away. "Ahhh", each person said, "I see now... cool".

[Swagger]

Btw, was it a dummy phone? I was pleasantly surprised to notice that the real device's screen clicks much easier than the dummies.

It was a little humorous to watch people who didn't know about the Storm, playing with them. They would lightly move their fingers over the menus, but couldn't figure out how to make them work.

When I started clicking the one I was testing, though, they picked up on it right away. "Ahhh", each person said, "I see now... cool".

What's really funny is how I keep pressing down my iPhone's screen after an intensive session with the Storm. Mark:gasp:

[SikShift]

Thanks Mark, I have been a Blackberry user for a few years so I am good to go with their UI, but I will definately ping you with questions, questions, questions once I get it in my hands Tuesday. May even ask to work from home that day so I can get it as soon as they deliver it lol.

Send me an invite on BB messenger when you get your Storm, my PIN is 24A0672D

[paa79594]

I've had my Storm for a few weeks now. RIM finally sent out an update yesterday and there is no comparison to the old software. The thing finally runs faster than ever and I am finally loving the thing. The only thing I miss from my iPhone is games...

[TarekElsakka]

I've had my Storm for a few weeks now. RIM finally sent out an update yesterday and there is no comparison to the old software. The thing finally runs faster than ever and I am finally loving the thing. The only thing I miss from my iPhone is games...

One thing I wanted to ask about the Storm for a long time now, does tilting work in it? Like the tilting in iPhone games, where you tilt the iPhone to steer a car for instance. Also like when you throw your iPhone (of course not for real) in order to bowl. Is it like that in the Storm too? I doubt it.

[ADDam]

Who is Adam? Is he a member here or one of the other sites you frequent.:laugh2:

Must be talking about me! :2cool:

[IphoneTony]

Well now that the blackberry has their version.. Im sure we will all get what we want soon mms, copy paste, camcorder etc etc etc...
or am I still dreaming

[Hondamaker]

Well now that the blackberry has their version.. Im sure we will all get what we want soon mms, copy paste, camcorder etc etc etc...
or am I still dreaming
I don't doubt that Apple is working on it right now. Competition rocks!

[paa79594]

One thing I wanted to ask about the Storm for a long time now, does tilting work in it? Like the tilting in iPhone games, where you tilt the iPhone to steer a car for instance. Also like when you throw your iPhone (of course not for real) in order to bowl. Is it like that in the Storm too? I doubt it.

I can't tell ya because there is no way to try that out. Are you talking about the accelerometer?

[kdarling]

One thing I wanted to ask about the Storm for a long time now, does tilting work in it? Like the tilting in iPhone games, where you tilt the iPhone to steer a car for instance. Also like when you throw your iPhone (of course not for real) in order to bowl. Is it like that in the Storm too? I doubt it.

Sure. Why would you think otherwise?

http://crackberry.com/nintaii-first-game-use-storms-accelerometer

[TarekElsakka]

I can't tell ya because there is no way to try that out. Are you talking about the accelerometer?

Yes, the accelerometer. Wow, it seems like it supports it, that's just great. I think the first phone to support accelerometer is the iPhone?

[dwp1975]

Send me an invite on BB messenger when you get your Storm, my PIN is 24A0672D

Will do, I can't wait to dump my current Blackberry once my Storm arrives..lol

[dwp1975]

What's really funny is how I keep pressing down my iPhone's screen after an intensive session with the Storm. Mark:gasp:

I am afraid I will have that happen too. Now I have to make serious decisions each day on which to carry? The iPhone or the Storm. Being that the Storm is Quad-Band I can take it on vacation with me like I was with the iPhone.

[Swagger]

I am afraid I will have that happen too. Now I have to make serious decisions each day on which to carry? The iPhone or the Storm. Being that the Storm is Quad-Band I can take it on vacation with me like I was with the iPhone.

You my friend will have a hard choice to make. Both are great phones. The choice will be simple if you need a "Work" & "Play" phone the Storm will be the phone of choice. However if on vacation and just need a "leisure phone" the iPhone is great for that. All in all I would say just prepare and extra space on your belt. You will probably end up carrying both. At this point if I were only allowed to choose one. I would have to go with the Storm. The Storm does everything the iPhone can do plus so much more. I would hate to say bye bye to the Safari browser but the Opera browser (I downloaded) on the Storm works just fine. I'm not saying it compares to Safari. I'm just saying that it is a capable browser. Fortunately I don't have to make a choice I can enjoy both. The web experience on iPhone is still KING!!! Mark

[TarekElsakka]

Or you can get rid of the iPhone and use an iPod Touch instead (for vacation to listen to music and play the incredible App Store games) :P.

[SikShift]

Will do, I can't wait to dump my current Blackberry once my Storm arrives..lol
Cool...lol, you're a "dumper" :tounge:

[dwp1975]

You my friend will have a hard choice to make. Both are great phones. The choice will be simple if you need a "Work" & "Play" phone the Storm will be the phone of choice. However if on vacation and just need a "leisure phone" the iPhone is great for that. All in all I would say just prepare and extra space on your belt. You will probably end up carrying both. At this point if I were only allowed to choose one. I would have to go with the Storm. The Storm does everything the iPhone can do plus so much more. I would hate to say bye bye to the Safari browser but the Opera browser (I downloaded) on the Storm works just fine. I'm not saying it compares to Safari. I'm just saying that it is a capable browser. Fortunately I don't have to make a choice I can enjoy both. The web experience on iPhone is still KING!!! Mark

I can't find a belt strong enough to hold both a v1 iPhone and a storm (as I heard it's quite heavy)....lol. Does the built in IM applications use data or SMS? I keep reading conflicting information about it. Usually built in ones tap into the SMS pool which is why carriers pre-install them. I have a JiveTalk license but they won't have a Storm compatible one till 09'.

[dwp1975]

Or you can get rid of the iPhone and use an iPod Touch instead (for vacation to listen to music and play the incredible App Store games) :P.

I had a 1st gen Touch and the lack of external speaker kept me from using it much. I know the new ones have a speaker but per Steve Job's own mouth he said it's not meant for prolonged music usage.

[dwp1975]

Cool...lol, you're a "dumper" :tounge:

LOL.....not sure how I feel about that title.....LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

[SikShift]

LOL.....not sure how I feel about that title.....LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

I'm not sure either, lmao :tounge:

But I think the BB messenger uses the data plan to communicate, because my bro has a Pearl w/no data plan and he cant use it.

[dwp1975]

I'm not sure either, lmao :tounge:

But I think the BB messenger uses the data plan to communicate, because my bro has a Pearl w/no data plan and he cant use it.

Yeah, the BB Messenger uses the BIS (Blackberry Internet Service), I am wondering about Instant Messengers (AIM, Yahoo!).

[SikShift]

Yeah, the BB Messenger uses the BIS (Blackberry Internet Service), I am wondering about Instant Messengers (AIM, Yahoo!).
I'm pretty sure do they as well

[TarekElsakka]

I had a 1st gen Touch and the lack of external speaker kept me from using it much. I know the new ones have a speaker but per Steve Job's own mouth he said it's not meant for prolonged music usage.

What do you (or Steve) mean? Not meant for prolonged music usage? Do you mean low battery usage or does it stop working after a few months? lol.

[Swagger]

I can't find a belt strong enough to hold both a v1 iPhone and a storm (as I heard it's quite heavy)....lol. Does the built in IM applications use data or SMS? I keep reading conflicting information about it. Usually built in ones tap into the SMS pool which is why carriers pre-install them. I have a JiveTalk license but they won't have a Storm compatible one till 09'.

The built in real time IM's use data. Mark

[dwp1975]

What do you (or Steve) mean? Not meant for prolonged music usage? Do you mean low battery usage or does it stop working after a few months? lol.

Meaning, it isn't equipped to give good sound quality for listening to music and will probably crap out sooner than later if you use it for listening to music. It is more so meant for notifications alerts.

[dwp1975]

The built in real time IM's use data. Mark

cool! As fee hungry as Verizon is I have to make sure about these things before getting slammed with a nasty sized bill the next month :laugh2:

[Swagger]

cool! As fee hungry as Verizon is I have to make sure about these things before getting slammed with a nasty sized bill the next month :laugh2:

I can't speak for anyone else but I have had no problems other than the update glitch. I even found a way around that last night and was able to update to 4.7.0.75. The music sounds great with or without headphones so I don't understand what all the fuss is about. I am sure you are counting down the hours until you are caught in The Storm. I am happy for you. I am sure you are going to love it!!! Mark:laugh2:

[Swagger]

cool! As fee hungry as Verizon is I have to make sure about these things before getting slammed with a nasty sized bill the next month :laugh2:

Can you believe they charge 10.00 a month for navigation (VZ Navigator), 2.99 a month for visual voicemail??? You are already paying thirty dollars for data both VZ Navigator and Visual Voice mail use data. Why the up charge then??? Screw Verizon download Google Maps with street view. They pack a lot of punch in a phone then charge you for everything it does. There is also a stand alone BlackBerry plan for 49.99 for data only no calls if you already have a voice plan with another carrier. Mark

Another plus with the Storm is coverage. I am so sick of AT&T's subpar signal. More bars in more places has to refer to places that sell liquor and not AT&T's signal strength.

[aggieman]

As a seasoned iPhone veteran. I never thought I would say this. The BlackBerry Storm is now my phone of choice. The BB Storm is the most well put together well thought out phone/PDA I have had in years. The interface is packed with features and easy to navigate. Having Cut & Paste, MMS and a serious camera/video device are welcomed features.

I have been loving this phone since my purchase yesterday. The only thing that could have been better is the included software. iTunes intergates all aspects of sync into one program BB desktop manager does not. I was truly impressed with opening an email attachment (a photograph) that immediately opened in full screen crisp and clear view. The Storm's screen is large, viewable and great to use just as is the iPhone's screen. You will find no cramped congested feeling as with the HTC Diamond, HTC Touch Pro or HTC G1.

I also like having to press the touch screen down to open a selected choice. No more inadvertant opening of a function do to errant screen touch. The sound quality of the storm during music playback is just as good or better than the iPhone.

Seperate email icons on the home screen prevent sifting through many different email clients to find which one has new mail. Instant messaging via chat clients (GTalk, Yahoo IM, Windows Live & AOL) is in real time. There is Flickr and Facebook and a host of other useful apps factory loaded.

The call quality is clear, clear and loud just as is the speaker phone. Email notification and ringer volume is also loud enough to be heard while in pocket. There are three different keyboards to suit whichever is to your liking. The battery is user changeable so is the Micro SD memory (8GB's included).

RIM may have been the last to come to market with a touch screen but they took their time and got it right. The Storm is a wonderful phone/PDA that offers all that Windows Mobile Devices (OS not made for touch screen), Palm Devices (OS outdated), Android Device (OS has promise but still young) and The iPhone (OS great but lacking common features) does not. The jury for me is still out on no wifi but Verizon's EVDO network has been fast.

I won't be giving up my iPhone anytime soon (just because I feel a connection with it) but it has certainly taken a back seat to The Storm. In my opinion RIM has scored an out of the park grandslam homerun with The Storm. Mark

nice review mark, I too love the storm. However I returned mine and switched back to the Bold as it was more practical for my use. The keyboard and screen clarity of the Bold are unmatched in my opinion. I can't wait to see a GSM version of it on AT&T however.

Feel free to join us over at everythingberry.com to talk more about the Storm :D

[aggieman]

Can you believe they charge 10.00 a month for navigation, 2.99 a month for visual voicemail??? Screw Verizon download Google Maps with street view. They pack a lot of punch in a phone then charge you for everything it does. There is also a stand alone BlackBerry plan for 49.99 for data only no calls if you already have a voice plan with another carrier. Mark

google maps currently doesn't have a version that works nicely with the GPS although I hear they are working on it.

Try out nav4all, it is free and the GPS is dead on accurate.

[Swagger]

google maps currently doesn't have a version that works nicely with the GPS although I hear they are working on it.

Try out nav4all, it is free and the GPS is dead on accurate.

Aggie,
I downloaded Google maps about a week ago and it has proved to be pretty accurate. Are you using a Storm or The Bold??? I almost bought a Bold last week amazing phone. I just couldn't do it though my phone addiction is getting out of hand. It took all I had in me to walk out without it. Mark

[Swagger]

Ok Aggie,
I see now that you are using The Bold. Sorry I missed that in your post. I agree the screen quality is amazing. The Rep showed me the Speed Racer movie demo. It was like a mini movie theater. The sound and visual quality blew me away. I see a new phone purchase coming. The Bold felt really good in hand also. Mark

[aggieman]

Ok Aggie,
I see now that you are using The Bold. Sorry I missed that in your post. I agree the screen quality is amazing. The Rep showed me the Speed Racer movie demo. It was like a mini movie theater. The sound and visual quality blew me away. I see a new phone purchase coming. The Bold felt really good in hand also. Mark

Best phone i've ever had. Period. Keyboard, screen resolution, email. It can't be beat.

I loved the Storm, but CDMA, lack of Wifi and dirt getting under my screen really killed it for me and made me return to my Bold. Also i can type over 40 wpm on the Bold, and could not come near that on the Storm.

[aknightstale41]

:::::Paging Hayes::::
Thread alert, turn off the "Lost" reruns and start thread "Phone Whore Rehab"....2 patients in critical condition, 1 more phone and it could cause a stroke.










:tounge:

[Swagger]

Aggie I laughed when I read your post. You always say "Best Phone I Ever Had" on just about EVERY phone you've ever had. I know I'm guilty to. Isn't that the beauty of technology??? It just keeps getting better and better.

AKnightstale,
I really don't think I want to be cured. I love all this new technology and I have to have it. I was a a restaurant the other day and the waiter commented "Damn you have all the heavy hitters". I said yes I have a problem. :laugh2:Mark

[aggieman]

Aggie I laughed when I read your post. You always say "Best Phone I Ever Had" on just about EVERY phone you've ever had. I know I'm guilty to. Isn't that the beauty of technology??? It just keeps getting better and better.

AKnightstale,
I really don't think I want to be cured. I love all this new technology and I have to have it. I was a a resturant the other day and the waiter commented "Damn you have all the heavy hitters". I said yes I have a problem. :laugh2:Mark

True true. But since I first tried a Bold pre release model in september I have been hooked. 3 months strong and I'm still loving it more every day. This phone just has it all. And the leather back adds a nice luxurious touch as well :D

[aknightstale41]

I am similar in that regard, i like the latest gadgets...one of the coolest gadgets i just picked up (2ond only to the iphone) is a pair of 4 gig mp3/bluetooth sunglasses. Its great, when out shopping with the wife (i hate shopping) i put these on, crank up the tunes and im in heaven (the wife just thinks there sunglasses, and those things in my ears are there just to keep them warm lol). i see her lips move and i just keep nodding to the music. A must have for all marriages over 7 years.

[Swagger]

True true. But since I first tried a Bold pre release model in september I have been hooked. 3 months strong and I'm still loving it more every day. This phone just has it all. And the leather back adds a nice luxurious touch as well :D

You know you are making me go buy that phone tomorrow right??? I also liked the leather back. I thought how cool is that...Mark

[Swagger]

I am similar in that regard, i like the latest gadgets...one of the coolest gadgets i just picked up (2ond only to the iphone) is a pair of 4 gig mp3/bluetooth sunglasses. Its great, when out shopping with the wife (i hate shopping) i put these on, crank up the tunes and im in heaven (the wife just thinks there sunglasses, and those things in my ears are there just to keep them warm lol). i see her lips move and i just keep nodding to the music. A must have for all marriages over 7 years.

One day you are going to be jamming to the music and nod to the wrong thing and end up with a huge bill. You know how women like to shop. LOL, Mark

[aknightstale41]

lol I didn't think of that. Shoot, you just blew my shopping fantasies.
Maybe I'll turn the music off long enough to tell her I lost the checkbook.

[TarekElsakka]

Meaning, it isn't equipped to give good sound quality for listening to music and will probably crap out sooner than later if you use it for listening to music. It is more so meant for notifications alerts.

And it's an iPod Touch? Well that blows. However, I am going to buy it if the Nokia N97 doesn't have a good Media Player. Plus, I don't like to waste the battery of my phones when I go camping or on a long trip, instead I like to use my iPod Nano or Touch, Nano has a much better battery life.

[kdarling]

Can you believe they charge 10.00 a month for navigation (VZ Navigator), 2.99 a month for visual voicemail???

Just like ATT, Verizon charges $9.95 a month for their turn by turn voice navigation app.

Does ATT offer Visual Voicemail on anything but the iPhone?

[Hondamaker]

All you BB people need to do your BB posting in the BB forum. There is actually a BB forum, just for the BB, FYI!! :tounge:

[SikShift]

Ok Aggie,
I see now that you are using The Bold. Sorry I missed that in your post. I agree the screen quality is amazing. The Rep showed me the Speed Racer movie demo. It was like a mini movie theater. The sound and visual quality blew me away. I see a new phone purchase coming. The Bold felt really good in hand also. Mark

You wont regret it, the Bold is a damn near-perfect phone...the screen is gorgeous, the keyboard is amazing, battery life on the v4.6.0.185 OS is unbelievable, want me to go on? :smile:

[projectdarkside]

Haha thats funny the OS cant be something simple like 4.6 its gotta be 4.6.0.185 lol jk:tounge:

[SikShift]

Haha thats funny the OS cant be something simple like 4.6 its gotta be 4.6.0.185 lol jk:tounge:
Well, when the battery goes two full days between charging, they can call it whatever they want :tounge:

[Hondamaker]

Well, when the battery goes two full days between charging, they can call it whatever they want :tounge:Whoop-dee-doo! My Iphone goes 3 days between charges!!:2cool:

[aggieman]

:tounge:Whoop-dee-doo! My Iphone goes 3 days between charges!!:2cool:

mine barely made it through a day with just my mobileme account pushing. I have 4 push email accounts on my Bold, and heavily use it for browsing, emailing, texting, and calling and I can easily get 2 + days out of it. I also constantly have Yahoo IM and Myspace open and running in the background and getting my IM's and myspace messages instantly. Really it's not a good comparison because the iPhone will not do all these things at once, part of the reason being to save battery life. Now it is also understandable that the iPhone would have shorter life because it is powering a much bigger screen.

[aggieman]

Haha thats funny the OS cant be something simple like 4.6 its gotta be 4.6.0.185 lol jk:tounge:

4.6.0.185
2.2.1

only one more decimal placement...its not that big of a difference. The reason being that the Blackberry has many different platforms versus just one iPhone OS

4.6 is the OS for the Bold
4.5 for the Curve
4.7 for the Storm

The other numbers are just build versions just like the iPhone i.e. 2.1.4, etc...

[aggieman]

You my friend will have a hard choice to make. Both are great phones. The choice will be simple if you need a "Work" & "Play" phone the Storm will be the phone of choice. However if on vacation and just need a "leisure phone" the iPhone is great for that. All in all I would say just prepare and extra space on your belt. You will probably end up carrying both. At this point if I were only allowed to choose one. I would have to go with the Storm. The Storm does everything the iPhone can do plus so much more. I would hate to say bye bye to the Safari browser but the Opera browser (I downloaded) on the Storm works just fine. I'm not saying it compares to Safari. I'm just saying that it is a capable browser. Fortunately I don't have to make a choice I can enjoy both. The web experience on iPhone is still KING!!! Mark

The storm is definitely a good work and play phone and I like it alot, but I'd only advise it if you really want the touch experience and extra screen real estate.

The Bold's audio output while listening to music or watching videos is much better whether through the speakers or headphones. Screen resolution is much more crisp, although the screen is a bit smaller. The phone operates much, much faster. Even after the .75 update I found my Storm rather sluggish. I thought about keeping it and getting it unlocked and having both, but the thing that really hurt me with the Storm is the fact it was getting dirt under the screen and dirt hanging out in the gaps between the screen and the side of the phone. Sooo it made the decision easy for me to go back to my Bold and I'm gonna buy me a used v1 iPhone to keep as well :D

[Swagger]

The storm is definitely a good work and play phone and I like it alot, but I'd only advise it if you really want the touch experience and extra screen real estate.

The Bold's audio output while listening to music or watching videos is much better whether through the speakers or headphones. Screen resolution is much more crisp, although the screen is a bit smaller. The phone operates much, much faster. Even after the .75 update I found my Storm rather sluggish. I thought about keeping it and getting it unlocked and having both, but the thing that really hurt me with the Storm is the fact it was getting dirt under the screen and dirt hanging out in the gaps between the screen and the side of the phone. Sooo it made the decision easy for me to go back to my Bold and I'm gonna buy me a used v1 iPhone to keep as well :D

It's funny that you mentioned the screen gap. I was thinking only time will tell what the outcome of dust and debris inside the Storm will be. I can't see any good outcome of this. RIM took a long time to come to market with this phone. I can only hope and believe that they seriously considered the dust factor. I'm also wondering how long the click screen will click. Usually all of this is not a concern for me since I upgrade phones so often. I think about it now because I really like the Storm and want to keep and use it for a while. Oh well only time will tell.

BTW: Aggie do you have Gmail and if so is the IMAP working on your BB??? Mark

[aggieman]

It's funny that you mentioned the screen gap. I was thinking only time will tell what the outcome of dust and debris inside the Storm will be. I can't see any good outcome of this. RIM took a long time to come to market with this phone. I can only hope and believe that they seriously considered the dust factor. I'm also wondering how long the click screen will click. Usually all of this is not a concern for me since I upgrade phones so often. I think about it now because I really like the Storm and want to keep and use it for a while. Oh well only time will tell.

BTW: Aggie do you have Gmail and if so is the IMAP working on your BB??? Mark

i have a Gmail account only to use google sync for my contacts. I don't use it for any of my mail, so it's not set up on my device. I've read on crackberry that people have had problems with IMAP.

I agree with you on how long the clicking mechanism will last. Another worry I had with the Storm. If you plan on keeping it less than a year I think it will be fine. Any longer I'd have concerns about it.

[projectdarkside]

Blackberry Bold vs Blackberry Storm :gasp:

[Swagger]

Blackberry Bold vs Blackberry Storm :gasp:

How about BlackBerry Storm "AND" BlackBerry Bold??? Instead of comparing how about just getting both. LoL, Mark

BTW: Where is OJ??? Haven't seen him posting lately. We know where the real OJ is. I'm talking about EIC's very own OJ.

[projectdarkside]

How about BlackBerry Storm "AND" BlackBerry Bold??? Instead of comparing how about just getting both. LoL, Mark

BTW: Where is OJ??? Haven't seen him posting lately. We know where the real OJ is. I'm talking about EIC's very own OJ.I thought he got banned or something:gasp:

[Swagger]

I thought he got banned or something:gasp:

Wow, I guess he went to far one to many times. I know he had been warned. It's really to bad he had a lot of iPhone knowledge to offer. He just couldn't stop the insults wow..Mark

[dwp1975]

Haha thats funny the OS cant be something simple like 4.6 its gotta be 4.6.0.185 lol jk:tounge:

That's b/c RIM puts out so many minor updates , it needs a different numbering scheme then Apple does who releases when they feel like it..lol :tounge:

[Napoleon_PhoneApart]

That's b/c RIM puts out so many minor updates , it needs a different numbering scheme then Apple does who releases when they feel like it..lol :tounge:

That's what I thought Apple would do when I picked up the original iPhone on iDay 2007. I figured the updates would be issued several times during the first couple of weeks. Boy, was I mistaken...

[Swagger]

That's b/c RIM puts out so many minor updates , it needs a different numbering scheme then Apple does who releases when they feel like it..lol :tounge:

Well sir did your "Happy Package" arrive today??? Mark

[projectdarkside]

That's b/c RIM puts out so many minor updates , it needs a different numbering scheme then Apple does who releases when they feel like it..lol :tounge:Well I guess that would also be a + in my book :2cool:
-Max respect to a company who listens to there customers and highly prioritize fixing bugs and glitches quickly:wink:

[Swagger]

We are still suffering with the glitches caused by 2.2 and still no word from Apple as to when it will be fixed. Heck the Storm has been out only since the 21st and a major build has been released already. Plus RIM/Verizon pulled back shipping to update phones in house when they realized the small Storm glitch. How long did we wait for the 1st iPhone update??? Mark

[projectdarkside]

We are still suffering with the glitches caused by 2.2 and still no word from Apple as to when it will be fixed. Heck the Storm has been out only since the 21st and a major build has been released already. Plus RIM/Verizon pulled back shipping to update phones in house when they realized the small Storm glitch. How long did we wait for the 1st iPhone update??? MarkI hear ya there man:wink:

[Buford T. Justice]

We are still suffering with the glitches caused by 2.2 and still no word from Apple as to when it will be fixed. Heck the Storm has been out only since the 21st and a major build has been released already. Plus RIM/Verizon pulled back shipping to update phones in house when they realized the small Storm glitch. How long did we wait for the 1st iPhone update??? Mark

You know, it's proberly one of those things that will always be tweaked but never quite to perfection....There could literally be an endless number of "updates" Apple could offer. Just my $ .02.

[Swagger]

Yes that could be true but this is not a problem with other mobile browsers.

I have to share this. Someone sent me a link to a YouTube video. I clicked both links (on iPhone & Storm) at exactly the same time. I watched the video, laughed and closed it out on the Storm. Meanwhile the iPhone was still having a hard time even bringing up the video. Wow!!! Mark

[Buford T. Justice]

Yes that could be true but this is not a problem with other mobile browsers.

I have to share this. Someone sent me a link to a YouTube video. I clicked both links (on iPhone & Storm) at exactly the same time. I watched the video, laughed and closed it out on the Storm. Meanwhile the iPhone was still having a hard time even bringing up the video. Wow!!! Mark


It's comments like this that make me wish I had purchased a Storm.:embarrassed:

[Hondamaker]

Yes that could be true but this is not a problem with other mobile browsers.

I have to share this. Someone sent me a link to a YouTube video. I clicked both links (on iPhone & Storm) at exactly the same time. I watched the video, laughed and closed it out on the Storm. Meanwhile the iPhone was still having a hard time even bringing up the video. Wow!!! MarkSame network?

[Hondamaker]

Mods, is there any way you can move this thread to the Blackberry forum? Where it belongs?

[iksn]

Why does this belong in the Blackberry forum? It is still discussing the Iphone And the Storm.

[psylichon]

BTW: Where is OJ??? Haven't seen him posting lately. We know where the real OJ is. I'm talking about EIC's very own OJ.

He disappears, new folks arrive. Sometimes that's just the way things go, other times... :wink:

[dwp1975]

Well sir did your "Happy Package" arrive today??? Mark

Not yet Mark, looking at the tracking, it arrived at the sorting facility about an hour ago with a slated delivery of today by 7pm. Sucks b/c it sat at the Newark, NJ facility from Saturday evening until this morning. I can't wait though! I am going to pick up a holster and a silicon case at lunch. Did you get the chrome docking station for the alarm clock function? I got it and can't wait to chuck out my old alarm clock...lol

[Swagger]

Not yet Mark, looking at the tracking, it arrived at the sorting facility about an hour ago with a slated delivery of today by 7pm. Sucks b/c it sat at the Newark, NJ facility from Saturday evening until this morning. I can't wait though! I am going to pick up a holster and a silicon case at lunch. Did you get the chrome docking station for the alarm clock function? I got it and can't wait to chuck out my old alarm clock...lol

I didn't even know about the docking station for bedside mode. Thanks for the info. I am going to Google it right now. I bet you would have driven to the sort facility had you known. Rockville isn't that far from Newark. Wait until you start posting how much you love it. You can then be bashed also with the rest of us BB turn coats:gasp: Mark

[dwp1975]

I didn't even know about the docking station for bedside mode. Thanks for the info. I am going to Google it right now. I bet you would have driven to the sort facility had you known. Rockville isn't that far from Newark. Wait until you start posting how much you love it. You can then be bashed also with the rest of us BB turn coats:gasp: Mark

Yeah, I was VERY tempted to drive up there until I remembered how bad it is up there....lol. I hope I get my delivery in the AM so I can set it up and play with it before the kids get home.

**EDIT**

It is now showing as out for delivery so it's on it's way to me!

[aggieman]

I didn't even know about the docking station for bedside mode. Thanks for the info. I am going to Google it right now. I bet you would have driven to the sort facility had you known. Rockville isn't that far from Newark. Wait until you start posting how much you love it. You can then be bashed also with the rest of us BB turn coats:gasp: Mark

The charging cradle for bedside mode is awesome. I've got mine on order for the Bold. The one for the Storm looks really slick.

You guys should join up at everythingberry.com we've got a pretty good group of EiC'ers already over there-most of these posts are probably more appropriate over there. Comparing the phones here is cool, but strictly BB related discussion probably is more appropriate there or at least in the off topic section here :D

[SikShift]

Yeah, I was VERY tempted to drive up there until I remembered how bad it is up there....lol. I hope I get my delivery in the AM so I can set it up and play with it before the kids get home.

**EDIT**

It is now showing as out for delivery so it's on it's way to me!
If it's anything like my Bold delivery, you'll get it around 2pm :laugh2:

[SikShift]

The charging cradle for bedside mode is awesome. I've got mine on order for the Bold. The one for the Storm looks really slick.

You guys should join up at everythingberry.com we've got a pretty good group of EiC'ers already over there-most of these posts are probably more appropriate over there. Comparing the phones here is cool, but strictly BB related discussion probably is more appropriate there or at least in the off topic section here :D
As an owner of the charging pod, I can say that it replaced my alarm clock on my night stand...and i prefer it that way now :smile:

Yup, myself included :wink:

[dwp1975]

The charging cradle for bedside mode is awesome. I've got mine on order for the Bold. The one for the Storm looks really slick.

You guys should join up at everythingberry.com we've got a pretty good group of EiC'ers already over there-most of these posts are probably more appropriate over there. Comparing the phones here is cool, but strictly BB related discussion probably is more appropriate there or at least in the off topic section here :D

I am actually a member of that site too just not active, i think I am in all the everything sites except the Treo ones...lol

[aggieman]

I am actually a member of that site too just not active, i think I am in all the everything sites except the Treo ones...lol

treo? does that still exist? lol j/k-the treo pro looks pretty sharp

You should become active over at EB now that you are about to be a storm owner.

[SikShift]

You should become active over at EB now that you are about to be a storm owner.

I concur :smile:

[dwp1975]

treo? does that still exist? lol j/k-the treo pro looks pretty sharp

You should become active over at EB now that you are about to be a storm owner.

I tip my hat to the Treo, it made me realize over two years ago/almost 3 that the Blackberry is a good device. I got my 8703e back then and haven't looked back since. Happy blackberry owner since 2005, got sidetracked by the iPhone last year though....lol.

[dwp1975]

It's here!

http://the16thletter.com/images/photo.jpg

[projectdarkside]

Congrats bro:2cool:
-Be sure to give us a little user review of it:wink:

[TarekElsakka]

Congratulations dwp, I am envying you right now :P.

[dwp1975]

Congrats bro:2cool:
-Be sure to give us a little user review of it:wink:

Got to play with it for alittle bit in between doing some work. (hate when work gets in the way)

Cool thing #1, I am right now doing the OTA firmware upgrade. How awesome is that? It came with the .65 firmware which is supposed to be laggy and slow, I had a few bad lags, but even with that it is awesome. I can't imagine how much cooler it will be once .75 installs :2cool:. Now I need to go get a holster and a skin. In the time it took me to type this reply the upgrade is already 22% completed. The dock is way better for charging then using the wall charger, not only for the cool alarm clock function but b/c the port goes in and out easily where as the wall charger is like a pitbull once you get it in...lol

[aggieman]

Got to play with it for alittle bit in between doing some work. (hate when work gets in the way)

Cool thing #1, I am right now doing the OTA firmware upgrade. How awesome is that? It came with the .65 firmware which is supposed to be laggy and slow, I had a few bad lags, but even with that it is awesome. I can't imagine how much cooler it will be once .75 installs :2cool:. Now I need to go get a holster and a skin. In the time it took me to type this reply the upgrade is already 22% completed. The dock is way better for charging then using the wall charger, not only for the cool alarm clock function but b/c the port goes in and out easily where as the wall charger is like a pitbull once you get it in...lol

It's much, much better after the .75 upgrade.

The OTA upgrade takes a good 20 minutes or so but well worth it. Doing it via desktop is much more difficult and time consuming.

[Napoleon_PhoneApart]

I keep meaning to go by Verizon and take a look at the Storm, but the lack of wifi really bugs me...

I'll probably check it out, making sure that the latest updates have been installed, so that I can render a better judgment of the phone.

[projectdarkside]

Got to play with it for alittle bit in between doing some work. (hate when work gets in the way)

Cool thing #1, I am right now doing the OTA firmware upgrade. How awesome is that? It came with the .65 firmware which is supposed to be laggy and slow, I had a few bad lags, but even with that it is awesome. I can't imagine how much cooler it will be once .75 installs :2cool:. Now I need to go get a holster and a skin. In the time it took me to type this reply the upgrade is already 22% completed. The dock is way better for charging then using the wall charger, not only for the cool alarm clock function but b/c the port goes in and out easily where as the wall charger is like a pitbull once you get it in...lolWait. . .While its upgrading its firmware and stuff you can still access the rest of the phone:eek:
-Now that awesome :2cool:

So it can multitask pretty well?

[dwp1975]

Wait. . .While its upgrading its firmware and stuff you can still access the rest of the phone:eek:
-Now that awesome :2cool:

So it can multitask pretty well?

I left the phone alone while it did the upgrade, didn't want to chance messing something up, I was typing from my laptop when it was upgrading.

[Swagger]

Got to play with it for alittle bit in between doing some work. (hate when work gets in the way)

Cool thing #1, I am right now doing the OTA firmware upgrade. How awesome is that? It came with the .65 firmware which is supposed to be laggy and slow, I had a few bad lags, but even with that it is awesome. I can't imagine how much cooler it will be once .75 installs :2cool:. Now I need to go get a holster and a skin. In the time it took me to type this reply the upgrade is already 22% completed. The dock is way better for charging then using the wall charger, not only for the cool alarm clock function but b/c the port goes in and out easily where as the wall charger is like a pitbull once you get it in...lol

Congrats my friend. I see you are already in pre-stages of BB Bliss. Wait until you get comfortable with the storm. The feeling will then change to pure euphoria. I bet you were smiling like a young child on Christmas morning while unboxing. Were you surprised to find a wall charger with many adapters In Box..HaHa Enjoy, life is great...Mark

[dwp1975]

Send me an invite on BB messenger when you get your Storm, my PIN is 24A0672D

Just sent you a request on BBM

[Pit Weston]

I have been helping my mom out with it the last few days. I don't even know what I am doing. For not knowing, I'm doing pretty good. In those fews days, it has gotten a lot easier to use. It's just a pain to have to dig around to find the programs she wants opened. If I was to give it one gripe (besides no wifi), I would say and will always say, navigation sucks.

[Swagger]

Wow "dwp" must have loved his Storm so much that he has left the forum to spend time with it...Mark:laugh2:

[gadget22]

hey swagger help me out.. I can't be without my iphone and I want a storm. I've been to verizon 2 days in a row playing with the damn thing.. Do you have both of them on each network. If I do get the storm I'll have it on the lowest plan they offer and would do the samething with my iphone. Which will actually come out to be close to what im paying now... someone please help me i need both of the phones im addicted......

[Swagger]

hey swagger help me out.. I can't be without my iphone and I want a storm. I've been to verizon 2 days in a row playing with the damn thing.. Do you have both of them on each network. If I do get the storm I'll have it on the lowest plan they offer and would do the samething with my iphone. Which will actually come out to be close to what im paying now... someone please help me i need both of the phones im addicted......

Yes I have both of them Storm (Verizon), iPhone (AT&T)...I don't understand the rest of your question. What can I answer for you??? Mark

[gadget22]

im just trying to see what plans do you have for each phone and which do you like the best out of the 2.. Im thinking about picking up a storm tommorrow..

[Swagger]

im just trying to see what plans do you have for each phone and which do you like the best out of the 2.. Im thinking about picking up a storm tommorrow..

I have 400 minutes, unlimited BlackBerry Data the cost is 89.00. 59.00 for 400 minutes. 30.00 for BlackBerry data. If you don't need any voice minutes you can get a stand alone BlackBerry data plan for 49.99....Mark

[dwp1975]

Wow "dwp" must have loved his Storm so much that he has left the forum to spend time with it...Mark:laugh2:

I wish that were the case, been busy working and taking time with the little ones. The jury is still out on this phone, so far the worst part of the phone is the main thing about it, the click screen, RIM could have had a winner WITHOUT it and just had a non-tactile feedback screen like the iPhone. I am concerned about the space around the screen with respect to dirt, dust, etc. and weather after prolonged use with the spring holding the screen start to loosen and it not sit as firm as it does now. BUT, it's only been two days so I got 28 more days to give it hell! lol. Did you pick up the chrome charger? Alarm clock function is awesome!

[Swagger]

I wish that were the case, been busy working and taking time with the little ones. The jury is still out on this phone, so far the worst part of the phone is the main thing about it, the click screen, RIM could have had a winner WITHOUT it and just had a non-tactile feedback screen like the iPhone. I am concerned about the space around the screen with respect to dirt, dust, etc. and weather after prolonged use with the spring holding the screen start to loosen and it not sit as firm as it does now. BUT, it's only been two days so I got 28 more days to give it hell! lol. Did you pick up the chrome charger? Alarm clock function is awesome!

I haven't gotten it yet but I plan to. Sorry to hear that it not as great as you thought it would be. I love using my Storm. Mark

[dwp1975]

I haven't gotten it yet but I plan to. Sorry to hear that it not as great as you thought it would be. I love using my Storm. Mark

Mark, do me a favor, put your finger on the screen and see if you can move it up and down or side to side? Not digging this at all...lol

[Swagger]

Mark, do me a favor, put your finger on the screen and see if you can move it up and down or side to side? Not digging this at all...lol

Yes it's made like that. I'm sure RIM thought all this out. Calm down my friend enjoy your phone and let not the screen worry you. You can insure it with Verizon but it has a year warranty... Mark

[dwp1975]

Yes it's made like that. I'm sure RIM thought all this out. Calm down my friend enjoy your phone and let not the screen worry you. You can insure it with Verizon but it has a year warranty... Mark

I insure all my smartphones, even got kicked off of the insurance b/c reached my 2 phones per year claim limit. I think the iPhone has me spoiled b/c I got conditioned to not accepting the 3g light leakage which was nothing compared to the storm. Add me to your BBM: 304CEA0A

[Swagger]

All you fanboy's eat your heart out!!! HaHa:laugh2:

http://www.crackberry.com/files/u3/blackberrystorm.jpg

[Hondamaker]

All you fanboy's eat your heart out!!! HaHa:laugh2:

http://www.crackberry.com/files/u3/blackberrystorm.jpgI messed around with a BB Storm the other day---not impressed. That's it. Not impressed at all. I'm still, to this day, wow'd by my iPhone.

[miggs1310]

I messed around with a BB Storm the other day---not impressed. That's it. Not impressed at all. I'm still, to this day, wow'd by my iPhone.


uh oh.....

[coasts]

come on, Mark...i think you could do better than that. banal, cliche quote...poor font... very generic and not threatening at all.

Ow!
Ow!
Ow?

[Swagger]

come on, Mark...i think you could do better than that. banal, cliche quote...poor font... very generic and not threatening at all.

Ow!
Ow!
Ow?
Coasts,
You are right I was looking for something else and found that photo. I just thought I would post it as a little humor. Everything has been so tense around here lately. I am glad to see so many new members though. It seems like there has been a rush on the iPhone this month. I guess Santa must have came early for many people this year. Anyway the humor is over now. Here are the facts for those who wanted to compare...Happy Holidays to You and Everyone!!!

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3199/2927490323_35a430aafc_o.jpg

There are a lot of No's in the iPhone category and a lot of yes's in the Storm category.....Hmmm is all the bad press about the Storm really warranted??? Mark

[Hondamaker]

Coasts,
You are right I was looking for something else and found that photo. I just thought I would post it as a little humor. Everything has been so tense around here lately. I am glad to see so many new members though. It seems like there has been a rush on the iPhone this month. I guess Santa must have came early for many people this year. Anyway the humor is over now. Here are the facts for those who wanted to compare...Happy Holidays to You and Everyone!!!

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3199/2927490323_35a430aafc_o.jpg

There are a lot of No's in the iPhone category and a lot of yes's in the Storm category.....Hmmm is all the bad press about the Storm really warranted??? MarkWell, the BT stereo, BT tethering will drain the battery bigger than s**t, so I don't really care to have those. MMS and copy/paste will come soon enough. Udder den dat....

[Swagger]

Well, the BT stereo, BT tethering will drain the battery bigger than s**t, so I don't really care to have those. MMS and copy/paste will come soon enough. Udder den dat....

Jack,
Please don't be a hater....LOL Mark:laugh2:

[melody]

BTW: To be. Completely honest in my comparison. I have to say the iPhone Safari browser is still KING of the mobile browsers. My G1's Opera browser comes close but nothing like Safari to date. The Storm's browser is pretty sad no doubt about that. I'm posting from my iPhone. Mark

Agree. Safari is the best mobile browser.

[Swagger]

Agree. Safari is the best mobile browser.

Welcome to the forum Melody. Happy Holidays...Mark

[dwp1975]

I packed up my Storm and am sending it back, I got my replacement today and it shut off and rebooted 6+ times in 2 hours. Have a 8330 coming in it's place. So the iPhone is the only touchscreen game in town for me now. :foot:

[Swagger]

I packed up my Storm and am sending it back, I got my replacement today and it shut off and rebooted 6+ times in 2 hours. Have a 8330 coming in it's place. So the iPhone is the only touchscreen game in town for me now. :foot:

From you I believe it. Wow that's deep...M

[dwp1975]

From you I believe it. Wow that's deep...M

Yeah, I already miss it and I haven't even shipped it back but if I kept or got a 3rd one I would of become a Blackberry hater....lol.

[TarekElsakka]

That's an awesome comparison. However, it shows that the Storm is better in everything except that it doesn't support WiFi.

[Napoleon_PhoneApart]

That's an awesome comparison. However, it shows that the Storm is better in everything except that it doesn't support WiFi.

What about other factors that don't appear in the comparison, such as durability, reliability and user-friendliness?

[TarekElsakka]

I guess that's in the OS? I am sure the BlackBerry OS is harder to use than the Mac OS.

[dwp1975]

I guess that's in the OS? I am sure the BlackBerry OS is harder to use than the Mac OS.

Blackberry OS is very easy to use and you can move the icons around just like on a iPhone. You can even put them on folders too.

[JoeT]

That's an awesome comparison. However, it shows that the Storm is better in everything except that it doesn't support WiFi.


Those "comparisons" can be slanted any which way you want. It wouldn't take much to make one showing off all the features that the iPhone has that the Storm doesn't. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

In any event, if you don't need the things that the Storm or iPhone lack, then they won't matter to you -- so these comparisons are not about which is the better phone, but which one more suits your needs.

I didn't move from the Treo to the iPhone because the iPhone was better -- I moved to it because it was better for ME. I'm no more loyal to Apple than I was to Palm.

[glsda]

Those "comparisons" can be slanted any which way you want. It wouldn't take much to make one showing off all the features that the iPhone has that the Storm doesn't. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

In any event, if you don't need the things that the Storm or iPhone lack, then they won't matter to you -- so these comparisons are not about which is the better phone, but which one more suits your needs.

I didn't move from the Treo to the iPhone because the iPhone was better -- I moved to it because it was better for ME. I'm no more loyal to Apple than I was to Palm.

Joet, Same reason I moved from the Treo to the iPhone and if something comes along that is better for me than the iPhone I will move to it.

[Hondamaker]

Those "comparisons" can be slanted any which way you want. It wouldn't take much to make one showing off all the features that the iPhone has that the Storm doesn't. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

In any event, if you don't need the things that the Storm or iPhone lack, then they won't matter to you -- so these comparisons are not about which is the better phone, but which one more suits your needs.

I didn't move from the Treo to the iPhone because the iPhone was better -- I moved to it because it was better for ME. I'm no more loyal to Apple than I was to Palm.

Joet, Same reason I moved from the Treo to the iPhone and if something comes along that is better for me than the iPhone I will move to it.You guys hit the nail on the head! I'm tired of these people--especially TarekElsakka--hacking on the iPhone and running their mouths about how much better this or that phone is better than the iPhone. They should stay in the BB forums, and outta this one.

[TarekElsakka]

Blackberry OS is very easy to use and you can move the icons around just like on a iPhone. You can even put them on folders too.

Yeah, when I used the iPhone I really missed putting applications together in one folder like in my Nokia phones. But of course the interface of the Storm and the BlackBerry phones is much better than Nokia's.

I kind of miss the iPhone 3G games and its iTunes anyhow. :laugh2:

[dwp1975]

You guys hit the nail on the head! I'm tired of these people--especially TarekElsakka--hacking on the iPhone and running their mouths about how much better this or that phone is better than the iPhone. They should stay in the BB forums, and outta this one.

iPhone users go to other boards and do the exact same thing, difference of opinions is the spice of life. Yeah some bashing is excessive but if the iPhone as diehards say it is, then they can easily disfuse the bashing with facts. :laugh2: I am a Blackberry fan but I love my iPhone and even convinced my VP of Sales to get one instead of a Storm. Half of my company are iPhoners because of me....lol.

[aggieman]

You guys hit the nail on the head! I'm tired of these people--especially TarekElsakka--hacking on the iPhone and running their mouths about how much better this or that phone is better than the iPhone. They should stay in the BB forums, and outta this one.

I really don't think either phone is better. I like them both. Hopefully you are not referring to me as I don't want to try to convince anybody that one particular phone or platform is better. I think each phone has their areas that they are better. That is why I carry both :D

[aggieman]

http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j187/jaskinner76/beating-a-dead-horse.gif

[Hondamaker]

I really don't think either phone is better. I like them both. Hopefully you are not referring to me as I don't want to try to convince anybody that one particular phone or platform is better. I think each phone has their areas that they are better. That is why I carry both :DNo, dude, I wasn't referring to you! :2cool:

[glsda]

http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j187/jaskinner76/beating-a-dead-horse.gif


Love it.

Aggieman, Remember no horse is so dead it can't be beat some more. Many threads at this forum prove the point.

I would like to own several phones just for the fun and experience of trying them out. If it weren't for my Scottish ancestory I to would be a
'phone whore'.

[Hondamaker]

Love it.

Aggieman, Remember no horse is so dead it can't be beat some more. Many threads at this forum prove the point.

I would like to own several phones just for the fun and experience of trying them out. If it weren't for my Scottish ancestory I to would be a
'phone whore'.OK, what does your ancestry have to so with a phone?

[kakofonix]

OK, what does your ancestry have to so with a phone?

He means he's very "careful" with his spending. The thriftiness of the Scottish people is the stuff of legends... and good-natured anecdotes...:wink:

[Hondamaker]

He means he's very "careful" with his spending. The thriftiness of the Scottish people is the stuff of legends... and good-natured anecdotes...:wink:
Man, I learn something new every day!

[aggieman]

For Swagger:

http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j187/jaskinner76/IMG00019-20081224-0937.jpg

[dwp1975]

For Swagger:

http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j187/jaskinner76/IMG00019-20081224-0937.jpg

Aggie. You got another one? Hey, did you know you can "customize" the home screen to display either 1, 2 or 3 rows of icons? I figured it out before I sent both Storms packing.

[TarekElsakka]

aggieman, ignoring the lovely phone, nice keyboard man. :P

[Swagger]

Am I seeing things or did you get The Storm unlocked??? The carrier says AT&T....Oh you are sneaky....LOL Mark

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3078/3133789325_eb6db00b4a_b.jpg

[aggieman]

Am I seeing things or did you get The Storm unlocked??? The carrier says AT&T....Oh you are sneaky....LOL Mark

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3078/3133789325_eb6db00b4a_b.jpg

You are correct sir was a piece of cake and everything works great

[BigCiX]

aggie can you get 3G with that at&t simcard on a bb storm. What about web browsing. Can you connect like you can on an iphone?

[aggieman]

aggie can you get 3G with that at&t simcard on a bb storm. What about web browsing. Can you connect like you can on an iphone?


it is EDGE only but it is actually pretty nice-as fast if not faster than the 1st iPhone. Web browsing is quite nice on it, although I'd never venture to put any phone equal to web browsing on the iPhone. It is close though but not as good in my opinion. But all the features it packs overall, it is worth it to me.

It only supports 2100 3g bands which is the EURO standard. AT&T uses 850/1900 mhz bands.

[Swagger]

Update:

I thought I would write with another BB Storm update. I figure that no one is even remotely interested in the electronics disaster RIM calls the BlackBerry Storm anymore but here goes. I won't go through all the other problems associated with the Storm. I will just mention a new one I just discovered today. Yes it speaks to the concerns many had concerning the large gap between the screen and phone body. Well folks to confirm your fears. There is a large amount of dust showing either in or under the Storm's screen. I turned the Storm off today to give the screen a good cleaning. In the bright sun I could see that dust has entered the screen area. What was RIM thinking when they designed the phone? The whole BB Storm experience for me has been a nightmare!!!

I am so glad that coming upon two years the iPhone is still going strong. I even did the enhanced speaker sound hack (pricking the speaker covering with a pin) and still no dust in the iPhone's screen. I am strongly convinced (after all the smart devices I've had and have) that the iPhone is King. I also believe that with the 3.0 update coming no other maker will be able to beat the iPhone. I love you iPhone and I will never doubt you again. I was thinking today if RIM and Apple got together they could make one hell of a smart phone. If all the functions of a BlackBerry could be incorporated with all the features of the iPhone. OMG that would be one super hot device. Yes I will dream on.

P.S. One thing I can say that RIM got right is the new BlackBerry Curve 8900 Titanium. I absolutely love the 8900 even without a touch screen. Having it on T-Mobile is a sad story though. The "T" in T-Mobile has got to stand for terrible service. Yes folks T-Mobile sucks!!!:angry: Mark

[Napoleon_PhoneApart]

Update:I love you iPhone and I will never doubt you again.

Are you going to buy a Pre and start this thread all over again? :laugh2::laugh2::laugh2:

[BrownGem]

Awww...so sad to see BB love shattered. Maybe your Iphone will forgive you...one day Mark. :)

[dwp1975]

Update:

I thought I would write with another BB Storm update. I figure that no one is even remotely interested in the electronics disaster RIM calls the BlackBerry Storm anymore but here goes. I won't go through all the other problems associated with the Storm. I will just mention a new one I just discovered today. Yes it speaks to the concerns many had concerning the large gap between the screen and phone body. Well folks to confirm your fears. There is a large amount of dust showing either in or under the Storm's screen. I turned the Storm off today to give the screen a good cleaning. In the bright sun I could see that dust has entered the screen area. What was RIM thinking when they designed the phone? The whole BB Storm experience for me has been a nightmare!!!

I am so glad that coming upon two years the iPhone is still going strong. I even did the enhanced speaker sound hack (pricking the speaker covering with a pin) and still no dust in the iPhone's screen. I am strongly convinced (after all the smart devices I've had and have) that the iPhone is King. I also believe that with the 3.0 update coming no other maker will be able to beat the iPhone. I love you iPhone and I will never doubt you again. I was thinking today if RIM and Apple got together they could make one hell of a smart phone. If all the functions of a BlackBerry could be incorporated with all the features of the iPhone. OMG that would be one super hot device. Yes I will dream on.

P.S. One thing I can say that RIM got right is the new BlackBerry Curve 8900 Titanium. I absolutely love the 8900 even without a touch screen. Having it on T-Mobile is a sad story though. The "T" in T-Mobile has got to stand for terrible service. Yes folks T-Mobile sucks!!!:angry: Mark

Mark, if you love the 8900 what until the Niagara 9630 drops on Verizon. Sell your Storm now while you can and get a 9630 when it comes out. It's a 8900/Bold lovechild...lol.

[Swagger]

Mark, if you love the 8900 what until the Niagara 9630 drops on Verizon. Sell your Storm now while you can and get a 9630 when it comes out. It's a 8900/Bold lovechild...lol.

Did you say sell the Storm? I probably couldn't give this piece of garbage away. LOL

And to the above poster. Yes I'm going to get a Pre but I doubt I will write a long glowing review only to have to retract it later. :-) Mark

[Hawk]

It doesn't have to be glowing, just honest. ;)
I do paintball equipment reviews, and even when they give me free equipment to review, I always try to stay honest and objective. yeah, I brown nose a little, but if a problem comes up, I definitely point it out, and what- if any- the resolution was.
I think that after 3.0 comes out, everyone is going to have to step up their game a bit. And it this happens every year, imagine what the iphone of 2015 is going to be like...

[dwp1975]

Did you say sell the Storm? I probably couldn't give this piece of garbage away. LOL

And to the above poster. Yes I'm going to get a Pre but I doubt I will write a long glowing review only to have to retract it later. :-) Mark

Mail it to me, I could tolerate a free storm :-), my Curve is driving me crazy with stuck keys :-(

[Napoleon_PhoneApart]

Gotta love the virtual keyboard.

[psylichon]

I've tried the Storm on several occasions now, and I will still state for the record that touch/push thing is just a horrible idea. Not in theory, perhaps, but once they actually made it and used it for a while, why would the engineers still think it was a good idea? Didn't their thumbs get sore? Didn't they see the light from around the screen? I just don't get it.

[dwp1975]

I've tried the Storm on several occasions now, and I will still state for the record that touch/push thing is just a horrible idea. Not in theory, perhaps, but once they actually made it and used it for a while, why would the engineers still think it was a good idea? Didn't their thumbs get sore? Didn't they see the light from around the screen? I just don't get it.

It was definitely a bad idea spawned by the "me too" craze. Had the storm had a regular touchscreen like the iPhone which would of eliminated the gaps it would of been a much better device. I liked the device somewhat, just not enough to justify paying $200-$250 for and locking myself into two more years. If it was $99 I would of been more forgiving of it. Blackberry is moving away from their roots in order to stay competitive by opening up their user base to the huge consumer market. But without a completely new OS they are losing and will continue to lose. BlackBerry has become a status symbol but they are just not built for the consumer multimedia arena just yet. While they get new users in the door, the retention of those new consumers falls of drastically. A lot of friends and co-workers who move to a BlackBerry from a regular phone, leave not to long after because they get bored of the BB. Yes, it can pull email the best, but for the majority that is a "so what", email isn't mission critical for everyone.

[BrownGem]

So true DWP. I have had multiple smartphones and never pulled email on any of them. I do use them for work as in there are documents and medical books I need to access on the job...but email is totally non-essential for my needs.

[Europa]

When the iPhone came out, Blackberry's were constantly being promoted for their "full qwerty keyboards". Once they realized the iPhone's touchscreen wasn't just a fad, they decided to join in. But they still had to do something "different" with the screen so they could talk about the keyboard on their commericials, lol. IIRC, it went something like this, "Wait what's this?, it clicks, it feels like you're actually typing on a real keyboard, wow". I tried a friends Storm, and I didn't like it at all compared to the iPhone. The UI definately takes some getting used to.

[Swagger]

I've tried the Storm on several occasions now, and I will still state for the record that touch/push thing is just a horrible idea. Not in theory, perhaps, but once they actually made it and used it for a while, why would the engineers still think it was a good idea? Didn't their thumbs get sore? Didn't they see the light from around the screen? I just don't get it.

Dave,
You left one screen flaw out. Didn't the engineers know that huge amounts of dust were going to enter the Storm? I remember DWP having concerns to the point of returning his Storm. Not feeling comfortable with the screen "Issues". Whomever was on the Storm development team should be fired. I still cannot believe RIM sent the Storm to market with so many flaws. Wow, I bet RIM lost alot of first time BlackBerry buyers forever.

I was shopping yesterday and stopped to respond to an email. Yes I was using my iPhone. I was totally surprised when another shopper asked what kind of phone is that. I said it's the iPhone. The guy started asking all types of questions like he had never heard of iPhone before. As I showed him several Apps and so forth he was truly amazed (of course). I'm thinking to myself has this guy lived under a rock for the past two years? How could he have not seen or heard of iPhone? Mark

[psylichon]

When the iPhone came out, Blackberry's were constantly being promoted for their "full qwerty keyboards". Once they realized the iPhone's touchscreen wasn't just a fad, they decided to join in. But they still had to do something "different" with the screen so they could talk about the keyboard on their commericials, lol. IIRC, it went something like this, "Wait what's this?, it clicks, it feels like you're actually typing on a real keyboard, wow".

Very good point. RIM sort of painted themselves into a corner by poo-pooing the touchscreen revolution for as long as they did. Their attempt to bridge their philosophy with touchscreens resulted in this odd contraption. I don't think anyone believes that it feels like typing on a keyboard, and I'll bet we never see any new models with this technology from them again.

They're in the same boat with the business/entertainment balance. They've pushed the BB as a business tool for so long, that they're now missing out on a seriously booming home market for smartphone entertainment and media control. They're lucky they had the lead in the market they did, because they're having to do some serious catch-up right now.

iPhone Accounts For 50 Percent Of U.S. Mobile Web Traffic;
http://www.moconews.net/entry/419-report-iphone-accounts-for-50-percent-of-u.s.-mobile-web-traffic-androi/


How could he have not seen or heard of iPhone? Mark

You'd be amazed...

[MrEous]

Funny to read the first post and then #204. Love then hate.

[dwp1975]

Dave,
You left one screen flaw out. Didn't the engineers know that huge amounts of dust were going to enter the Storm? I remember DWP having concerns to the point of returning his Storm. Not feeling comfortable with the screen "Issues". Whomever was on the Storm development team should be fired. I still cannot believe RIM sent the Storm to market with so many flaws. Wow, I bet RIM lost alot of first time BlackBerry buyers forever.

I was shopping yesterday and stopped to respond to an email. Yes I was using my iPhone. I was totally surprised when another shopper asked what kind of phone is that. I said it's the iPhone. The guy started asking all types of questions like he had never heard of iPhone before. As I showed him several Apps and so forth he was truly amazed (of course). I'm thinking to myself has this guy lived under a rock for the past two years? How could he have not seen or heard of iPhone? Mark

You'd be surprised, we are still outnumbered by those who only use their phone for........well a phone....lol. So, Mark want to let go of that Storm? lol

[Swagger]

I am still using it and checking out the unofficial updates. I'm still trying to hold out hope. Mark

[psylichon]

You guys are awesome. I'm a monogamous phone lover these days, so I live vicariously through you dudes.

I hope the competition gets a bit better, for your sakes. ;)

[Europa]

I love you iPhone and I will never doubt you again.
This just gave me an idea for a HAL9000 type app.

[dwp1975]

I am still using it and checking out the unofficial updates. I'm still trying to hold out hope. Mark

It's sad to know you have to rely on "leaks" to give the phone a chance. Dammit RIM, get it together!

[Swagger]

It's sad to know you have to rely on "leaks" to give the phone a chance. Dammit RIM, get it together!

@DWP,
You know I was thinking the exact same thing. One official update from RIM but several unofficial updates (leaks). I do think it is very sad the way the entire Storm situation has been handled.

@Dave,
Dave so now you have finally discovered that we live to serve you. LOL :laugh2:. Mark

[dwp1975]

@DWP,
You know I was thinking the exact same thing. One official update from RIM but several unofficial updates (leaks). I do think it is very sad the way the entire Storm situation has been handled.

@Dave,
Dave so now you have finally discovered that we live to serve you. LOL :laugh2:. Mark

Hopefully it all pans out. I want to give the storm a chance but it's not making it easy to give it a chance.

[Swagger]

Got my 5th Storm replacement yesterday. I think this is so crazy that I am not even angry about it anymore. I'm just getting tired of continuosly syncing my contacts and changing all the settings and home screen to my liking. And the band played on :laugh2: Mark

[Eragon]

Have had my Storm for a month now. Complements my iPhone perfectly, especially in areas where AT&T coverage is awful and VZW is great.

[Swagger]

I just downloaded the new BlackBerry App World program to my Storm. I am very impressed with the UI. When I first opened the program I said to myself, WoW!!! The .113 update has also made the Storm more stable. Great example of never give up hope things change. Still not the iPhone but I am much happier with my Storm today. Chalk one up for RIM. Getting ready to install it on my BB 8900 now. I knew this was going to be a good day :-). Mark

[Napoleon_PhoneApart]

This just gave me an idea for a HAL9000 type app.

You mean another one?

[dwp1975]

I just downloaded the new BlackBerry App World program to my Storm. I am very impressed with the UI. When I first opened the program I said to myself, WoW!!! The .113 update has also made the Storm more stable. Great example of never give up hope things change. Still not the iPhone but I am much happier with my Storm today. Chalk one up for RIM. Getting ready to install it on my BB 8900 now. I knew this was going to be a good day :-). Mark

I installed the BB App World on my Curve this morning, still haven't found anything worth downloading yet...lol. Can't wait for the Skype App to arrive though :-)

[Swagger]

I installed the BB App World on my Curve this morning, still haven't found anything worth downloading yet...lol. Can't wait for the Skype App to arrive though :-)

How did you like the UI? It's so clean and crisp on the Storm's screen. I also like it on my 8900 but on the Storm's larger screen. It Rocks!!! Mark

[dwp1975]

How did you like the UI? It's so clean and crisp on the Storm's screen. I also like it on my 8900 but on the Storm's larger screen. It Rocks!!! Mark

It's ok, it's sluggish on my 8330. Probably due to a slower processor in the Curve. I downloaded Pandora and am in love again with my BlackBerry. I love pandora but couldn't use it on my iPhone because with prolonged use the speaker starts to get muffled. So far it's excellent on the curve. :2cool:

[offroadhunter]

I had my storm for a week, returned it and picked up the iphone yesterday, much happier with the iphone

[Swagger]

I had my storm for a week, returned it and picked up the iphone yesterday, much happier with the iphone

The Storm of course is not for everyone. Some people just didn't care for the click screen. Also a BlackBerry is very technical phone with all of it's features and set up. A lot of people would rather have a phone like the iPhone do to it's ease of use.

My only problem with the Storm was all of it's glitches. Now that I have updated to .113 it seems all the problems have been solved. I also am used to and comfortable with the click screen. I also love and use on a daily basis the functions of a BlackBerry. The iPhone I have is basically my web phone. I hardly ever use it as a phone. The sound quality and speaker phone are just not to my liking. I do enjoy many of the applications the iPhone has to offer.

All of that said. I would not want to give up either of my BlackBerry's nor my iPhone each has it's purpose.

BTW: Welcome to the forum. We are one big happy online family. We do argue like cat's and dogs at times but there are some really good people here. Being new to iPhone you will find that there is no question you have regarding iPhone that will go unanswered here. Best Regards, Mark

[nyc_rock]

With the release of the 3.0 software, the functionality devide is going to be significantly reduced. If Apple does add video capture and integrated voice dialing then Im not sure of one function blackberry will have over the iphone. Which is exactly why I am planning on giving up my storm and coming back to apple.

[SikShift]

Im not sure of one function blackberry will have over the iphone.

True multitasking (running apps in the background), push email?

And I'll be returning to the iPhone again as well. My Bold is awesome, but the iToy just suits me better

[nyc_rock]

True multitasking (running apps in the background), push email?

And I'll be returning to the iPhone again as well. My Bold is awesome, but the iToy just suits me better


Yes, that is correct. But "true" multitasking, at least for me, is negated by the background push notification. Push email? I will give you that (at least for non exchange accounts), but pulling every 30 minutes is not such a nagative.

[SikShift]

Yes, that is correct. But "true" multitasking, at least for me, is negated by the background push notification. Push email? I will give you that (at least for non exchange accounts), but pulling every 30 minutes is not such a nagative.

True, push notification would be fine for emails, IM's and such, but I'd hate to lose my high score in a game because I have to leave the app to check an email I just got. As for fetching every 30 mins, I'm fine with that, but it did take a toll on my battery when I had the iPhone

[Swagger]

With the release of the 3.0 software, the functionality devide is going to be significantly reduced. If Apple does add video capture and integrated voice dialing then Im not sure of one function blackberry will have over the iphone. Which is exactly why I am planning on giving up my storm and coming back to apple.

The first thing that comes to mind is file system. A robust speaker phone. OTA updates. Browser Push. And last but certainly not least a user replaceable battery.

Did I forget to mention being able to add attachments to emails???:laugh2:

[nyc_rock]

True, push notification would be fine for emails, IM's and such, but I'd hate to lose my high score in a game because I have to leave the app to check an email I just got. As for fetching every 30 mins, I'm fine with that, but it did take a toll on my battery when I had the iPhone

Battery life is the one unknown. When I had my 3g i had to leave it on edge to get through the day. This was really annoying. Hopefully, with the new iphone, we will see better battery life.

My storm is a freeking workhourse with battery life.

[SikShift]

Battery life is the one unknown. When I had my 3g i had to leave it on edge to get through the day. This was really annoying. Hopefully, with the new iphone, we will see better battery life.

My storm is a freeking workhourse with battery life.
I hope so too.

Same goes with my Bold :wink:

[nyc_rock]

The first thing that comes to mind is file system. A robust speaker phone. OTA updates. Browser Push. And last but certainly not least a user replaceable battery.

If you want a great file system, the Winmo is the way to go.
I dont find the speakers on either my storm or my iphone to particularly good anyway.
I have never swapped battery's in my life. IMHO, this is the most overrated attribute out there. Just give me a phone that can last the day with heavy usage and Im satisfied. Charging every night is expected.

What I will miss most about my storm is BBM and the ability to customize everything. I have emails set to vibrate once, texts and Im's to vibrate twice and phone calls to vibrate three quick times. I never have to take my phone out of my pocket to know what is going on.

[Swagger]

If you want a great file system, the Winmo is the way to go.
I dont find the speakers on neither by storm or my iphone to particularly good anyway.
I have never swapped battery's in my life. IMHO, this is the most overrated attribute out there. Just give me a phone that can last the day with heavy usage and Im satisfied. Charging every night is expected.

Actually you defeated your own over rated (user changeable battery) statement. Short battery life on a phone can be fixed by carrying a spare or two. You might think it's over rated until you go to another country and your battery goes dead and you are left without a phone for several days. Heck you can purchase a BB battery almost anywhere.

[nyc_rock]

Actually you defeated your own over rated (user changeable battery) statement. Short battery life on a phone can be fixed by carrying a spare or two. You might think it's over rated until you go to another country and your battery goes dead and you are left without a phone for several days. Heck you can purchase a BB battery almost anywhere.

Remembering to keep a spare battery that is charged, IMO, is just as much of a pain as carrying around a wall/car charger combo. Its personal preference, but for me, the better solution is finding a phone that can get through the day. Means to an end I suppose.

[Swagger]

Remembering to keep a spare battery that is charged, IMO, is just as much of a pain as carrying around a wall/car charger combo. Its personal preference, but for me, the better solution is finding a phone that can get through the day. Means to an end I suppose.

I wonder will the new iPhone's battery be up to the task. The rumored faster processor, the 3g and all the other bells and whistles will certainly tax the battery. Maybe Apple is going to put a downsized version of the new MBP's battery in the iPhone and a power user can power use all day.

[nyc_rock]

I wonder will the new iPhone's battery be up to the task. The rumored faster processor, the 3g and all the other bells and whistles will certainly tax the battery. Maybe Apple is going to put a downsized version of the new MBP's battery in the iPhone and a power user can power use all day.

I, personally, will deal with a little thicker device if they can cram a bigger battery in there. Also, if it does have the OLED screen, that should help as well.

[2white2fight]

gfto!!!! this is a iphone fourm site!

[Napoleon_PhoneApart]

gfto!!!! this is a iphone fourm site!

This thread has been going for a while now. You'll find that Swagger is a two dollar whore for the Storm, except that he's scared that the shots won't work. :laugh2:

[Swagger]

This thread has been going for a while now. You'll find that Swagger is a two dollar whore for the Storm, except that he's scared that the shots won't work. :laugh2:

Wow nice post thanks. Mark

[Napoleon_PhoneApart]

Wow nice post thanks. Mark


Thus the smiley face, Mark. I was just ribbin' ya.