Alternate to iTunes and Amazon? [Archive]

acosmichippo

11-20-2008, 01:55 AM

So i'm trying to purchase a song that's part of a compilation... it's really the only one that i'm interested in, but both iTunes and Amazon only sell the song as part of the album... not on its own.

where else can i try to purchase this thing?

Sometimes they make it so hard to stay legal...

Rip

11-20-2008, 05:45 AM

What's the song?

miggs1310

11-20-2008, 10:48 AM

download bitlord (free download), go to isohunt.com, get your song.

iCafe

11-20-2008, 11:07 AM

acosmichippo

11-20-2008, 11:33 AM

right... I suppose I should have qualified that with "legal".

iCafe

11-20-2008, 06:01 PM

right... I suppose I should have qualified that with "legal".

Its one song, live a little.

TarekElsakka

11-20-2008, 07:06 PM

Legal? Just for a single song? Damn. No offense.

acosmichippo

11-20-2008, 07:11 PM

legal, moral... all of the above.

i enjoy the song, and want to compensate the people responsible for it accordingly.

Youngbinks

11-20-2008, 09:00 PM

I really do hate when a song is "Album Only". It puts a damper on thing quite a bit.

jjvaldez

11-20-2008, 09:54 PM

i think that if you try to look for it and it is not there, then limwire the ONE song, [i know you have the moral thing and all that, we have argued about this] DL the song and there, you are not selling it, or making money of one effing song.

you could have expected that answer there [ limewire it], i am sure that knew that already....

monkeysrock0622

11-20-2008, 11:10 PM

I really do hate when a song is "Album Only". It puts a damper on thing quite a bit.
Wow its hard to believe how spoiled iTunes has made us. I still remember when there was no such thing as iTunes, or iPods, and everyone used CD players (and some of you remember 8 tracks and records, etc) and the only way to buy music was to buy the whole CD. Now people are mad when you can't buy one little song.

I agree with hippo. It is against the law and we shouldn't be persuading him to go against the law and his own morals. I am the same as you, I can't illeagally download a song, unless I don't have anymore iTunes credits, so I limewire it, but then buy it from iTunes once I get the money.

acosmichippo

11-20-2008, 11:20 PM

i've checked about 6 other mp3 sites, and none of them have had anywhere near the selection of iTunes or Amazon... go figure.

jjvaldez

11-21-2008, 03:07 AM

heh, hippos morals are all weird, he wont DL music from limewire abut he'll put music on his families ipods [they didnt buy it] this is worst then DL imo.

acosmichippo

11-21-2008, 03:16 AM

fair use. perfectly legal and i don't see how it's worse than downloading pirated music.

jjvaldez

11-21-2008, 03:21 AM

it is, they didn't buy it and they get to have it on their ipods?

just dl and pretend that u got it off another persons ipod, same concept ...

acosmichippo

11-21-2008, 03:30 AM

not really, because the people that deserve to be paid for their services will not have been compensated.

themanofthedark

11-21-2008, 08:03 AM

www.rhapsody.com (http://www.rhapsody.com)

or limewire it.
Good Day Sir.

coasts

11-21-2008, 08:40 AM

heh, hippos morals are all weird, he wont DL music from limewire abut he'll put music on his families ipods [they didnt buy it] this is worst then DL imo.

im with hippo on this one...not that i can claim complete innocence...

sharing music with your family is no different than them borrowing your CDs. if an entire family loved the same band they wouldn't each go buy a copy of the disc...theyd share it...amongst themselves...not the whole world.

still, whats the song?

miggs1310

11-21-2008, 10:15 AM

jjvaldez

11-21-2008, 02:49 PM

heh limewire it ...

whatever this is lame

jjvaldez

11-21-2008, 02:50 PM

lets pretend that you are my friend, tell me the song ill DL it then i can send it to u to put on ur ipod as you would to friends and family...

acosmichippo

11-21-2008, 03:55 PM

bands sign record deals, they get paid way before you buy a song from itunes, and they make most of their money from touring. so, dowload the song and if you feel guilty about it and really want to support them, go to a concert or buy a t-shirt.

i think radiohead did it the right way with "in rainbows"...

OK, not that we need to have this discussion AGAIN, but...

FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, THERE ARE MORE PEOPLE INVOLVED WITH CREATING MUSIC THAN THE ARTISTS.

Producers, engineers, session musicians, janitors, etc. The list goes on. It's a whole INDUSTRY you are cheating if you steal music.

miggs1310

11-21-2008, 04:03 PM

wow........

acosmichippo

11-21-2008, 04:09 PM

yes, mind-blowing, isn't it?

anyway, it's a moot point. Theft is theft.

acosmichippo

11-21-2008, 04:12 PM

still, whats the song?

oh, it's Imogen Heap's version of "spooky". It's on the soundtrack to "Just Like Heaven", which i refuse to own.

miggs1310

11-21-2008, 04:36 PM

yes, mind-blowing, isn't it?

anyway, it's a moot point. Theft is theft.

Your ability to be so anal about this? Yes, it is mind blowing. I'll say it again, wow...

Youngbinks

11-21-2008, 04:48 PM

Wow its hard to believe how spoiled iTunes has made us. I still remember when there was no such thing as iTunes, or iPods, and everyone used CD players (and some of you remember 8 tracks and records, etc) and the only way to buy music was to buy the whole CD. Now people are mad when you can't buy one little song.

Well the ability to purchase just one song off of an album is one of the many reasons iTunes caught on with such popularity. People got tired of spending $15 on a CD for the 1 or 2 songs they wished to hear. Now it seems as if people are avoiding a purchase all together because Apple (or the record company) has decided to lock that song to an album purchase.

I had a bunch of free song downloads that I used a little while back. I could download each song individually off of an album, but the coupon wouldn't apply to full albums, even if I had enough free downloads. So for some albums I wasn't able to download the full version because I had to get each song individually and the "album only" songs were locked.

iCafe

11-21-2008, 07:03 PM

you have alot of morals for someone that looks like dennis rodman

iCafe

11-21-2008, 09:41 PM

Hey look i am paying for music :) !!!
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acosmichippo

11-22-2008, 01:10 AM

Your ability to be so anal about this? Yes, it is mind blowing. I'll say it again, wow...

Anal?

LOL

Do you steal things on a regular basis? Or only when you feel like it?

jjvaldez

11-22-2008, 09:50 PM

this is stupid, with all this time wasted u could have DL it already.... lame

acosmichippo

11-22-2008, 10:01 PM

my god, are you really calling me stupid for trying to purchase a product?

listen to yourself, man.

jjvaldez

11-23-2008, 02:27 PM

heh

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Y-Less

11-23-2008, 05:16 PM

Okay you guys, chill out everybody. It's all downhill from here.

Let that guy download his song, if he doens't know how and he (for some reason) can't proper read the topic, then its his problem.

Do you steal things on a regular basis? Or only when you feel like it?Are you going to tell me you never ever downloaded just one song from the Internet? Okay...

Ramesh

11-23-2008, 07:14 PM

Could you youtube the song and then rip the audio from that? That'd be no different than taping a song off the radio...

Ramesh

11-23-2008, 07:16 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TA8tlbIINgo

TarekElsakka

11-23-2008, 07:30 PM

Could you youtube the song and then rip the audio from that? That'd be no different than taping a song off the radio...

I use those two to convert from flv (YouTube) to any other format and then download:

1 - http://vixy.net/

2 - http://www.convertdirect.com/

acosmichippo

11-23-2008, 09:31 PM

Well, it was not my intention to get into this discussion again.

No, I do not have any illegally obtained music.

Yes, I want to purchase this song.

I'm done going down this line of conversation. If you can recommend legal alternatives to iTunes or Amazon, please do, but do not try to suggest or justify theft.

Ramesh

11-23-2008, 09:35 PM

I don't want to get into that discussion again - but to be clear - the youtbue thing is "stealing"?

acosmichippo

11-23-2008, 09:38 PM

It must be. There's no way that video was approved to be posted by the label.

TarekElsakka

11-23-2008, 10:49 PM

Of course taking a song from YouTube is considered stealing and is illegal. I'm not sure but isn't http://www.rhapsody.com/startc.html considered legal? At least that's what I thought all along.

themanofthedark

11-25-2008, 09:39 AM

Rip

11-25-2008, 09:45 AM

OK, not that we need to have this discussion AGAIN, but...

FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, THERE ARE MORE PEOPLE INVOLVED WITH CREATING MUSIC THAN THE ARTISTS.

Producers, engineers, session musicians, janitors, etc. The list goes on. It's a whole INDUSTRY you are cheating if you steal music.

Good for you.

I'm with you on this.

Good luck in your search.

savage_plot

11-25-2008, 10:41 AM

1.Download Bit Torrent from *link removed* .Its free
2.Go to Sites such as *link removed* and *link removed*
3.Then type in the name of the song or,the album,or the artist
You will get a long list of related items.just click on you choice and then click download torrent (for isohunt)..or click the arrow pointing dwonwards(for bt junkie). a small window appears click open...then another window appears in the bit torrent program press You can check the files inlcluded in the torrent in that window .press ok.then it will start downloading.and tada your files will be on the computer after it finishes
It is also advice you download multiple torrents of the same file because some torrents take a long time to download..Of course once one of the torrent is downloaded succesfully you can stop other torrents and remove them from the bit torrent program.

psylichon

11-25-2008, 10:51 AM

you and your morals.

like you really care about the janitors and ****.

the INDUSTRY that gets paid every time you *do* buy a song pays them, and i think that the 99cents thats spread out over SO MANY PEOPLE is such an insignificant loss that it doesnt make sense to download a song that you can't buy alone.

Good Day Sir.

P.S. I am not a thief - but I have never bought music.

Sam, I never thought I'd say this to you, but on this subject you are a child with a child's views. Grow up.

That goes to anyone that is actually giving hippo **** about wanting to be a good person. wtF is wrong with you people? This is MY industry we're talking about, and if no one buys music, I don't eat. Is that real enough to be visceral for you folks?

This thread should be locked. Poor hippo is gaining nothing from it at this point except unnecessary grief.

TarekElsakka

11-25-2008, 11:50 AM

I myself never bought any songs before, just albums from music stores and stuff on CDs. But I never paid to download any music online. But why would people go against him in this? It's his money, his will, and no one can do anything about it.

@ savage_plot, this is still considered stealing and is not legal.

@psylichon, I agree. This topic should be locked already since it's just another gate to spam. It's the guy's choice to pay, personality and stupidity play no role in this ok.

Thanks a lot and have a nice day everyone. I think I am going to report this topic for it to be locked already.

acosmichippo

11-25-2008, 11:51 AM

*** them, I don't want my thread locked. Anyone with a little sense to think beyond the immediate consequences of their actions should be able to to see what's going on here.

TarekElsakka

11-25-2008, 11:54 AM

Yeah, but the problem is, people are just using this thread as an excuse to flame others and to express their anger in anything. I am not sure if I am right, but I thought Rhapsody is a legal way to download songs. I am really sorry acosmichippo and I wish you luck finding a legal site to download songs because that's actually what's supposed to be done, but you know, people have different opinions about this, though those opinions should be said and expressed in a nicer way not just insulting and flaming.

psylichon

11-25-2008, 11:58 AM

I'm just afraid more misinformed views about how the music industry "works" may be expressed.

chris

11-25-2008, 11:59 AM

This site does not and will not allow the discussion of how to illegally download music. Please let's get back on topic. If you cannot help him find the song legally, then don't post.

Thanks.

TarekElsakka

11-25-2008, 12:16 PM

This site does not and will not allow the discussion of how to illegally download music. Please let's get back on topic. If you cannot help him find the song legally, then don't post.

Thanks.

Exactly. I guess you should clean up this thread, I mean clean up the unnecessary pots better. As I said, they all were a gate to spam and get higher post counts.

By the way, isn't Rpahsody legal? That's the 4th time I ask this question lol.

acosmichippo

11-25-2008, 12:19 PM

Rhapsody is definitely legal, but I think you can only stream music... Not download it. I'll make sure to check it out, though.

Ramesh

11-25-2008, 12:26 PM

You can by from Rhapsody now - as well as previewing the entire song. Something I prefer to do.

TarekElsakka

11-25-2008, 12:34 PM

Rhapsody is definitely legal, but I think you can only stream music... Not download it. I'll make sure to check it out, though.

Ahh okay, good luck with that.

OJsakila

11-25-2008, 12:58 PM

I've been monitoring this thread and really see no need to "stir it up" considering it's quite black and white. Either you pay for it or you don't. All you people that don't pay for music are the ******* kids that would take all the candy from someones house when they left a dish out for Halloween. You are thieves.
The music industry is in a tight place with the INTERNET now and technology allowing you punks to take all the butterfingers...It's almost like they have to operate from an "honor system" way of conducting business...
On the other side of the coin, however, you've got the idiot industry pumping out some real crap that they should pay us to listen to... And traditionalists like Jimi Hendrix and Miles Davis should never be raped like the industry does time and time again...Dishonoring these late great fallen artists with albums that don't even have the artist on it at all...blatent lies I don't feel sorry for the ******* music industry one tiny bit. They only have themselves to blame. The reason I don't steal music isn't because I give crap about some ego maniac that works at a studio or something, it's because I was taught not to steal. What's your excuse?

acosmichippo

11-25-2008, 02:06 PM

The fact that there is so much crap being produced today is all the more reason to purchase music you do enjoy. Support the good artists and labels. Propogate the good vibes!

Youngbinks

11-25-2008, 03:15 PM

TarekElsakka

11-25-2008, 03:17 PM

My dad is in the field of production, so of course almost all of the Arabian celebrities are his friends. He himself was a singer once lol. Anyway, you don't know how much they hate the internet now because it spoils everything. They pay too much money in producing their songs, videos, albums, and then people can easily go to any website and download them FOR FREE. It's really disgusting and annoying, that's why I never illegally download arabic songs so I'd make them benefit, I always go and buy the latest albums but only for the singers I love and love to hear. I also hate downloading arabic movies to watch, I always go to the cinema which is really near me to watch movies, what's the point in downloading then? But I do download American songs and movies from P2P programs like LimeWire because why would I even make them benefit? Since I don't even like English songs much, I barely even download any you know. But I do download and watch (in our cinemas) a lot of English movies here in my country.

miggs1310

11-25-2008, 04:18 PM

Exactly. If you don't show an artist that you support them and appreciate their music by either buying the albums (or songs) or attending concerts and such, they will eventually fizzle out and stop making music. Support the artists and everyone else involved in the process. It's the right thing to do.

It didn't seem to affect Radiohead when they put their latest album on the web and let you pay whatever you wanted for it (even free). Actually, I think it made them more popular than ever...maybe?

Idk, do what you want...

psylichon

11-25-2008, 04:23 PM

It didn't seem to affect Radiohead when they put their latest album on the web and let you pay whatever you wanted for it (even free). Actually, I think it made them more popular than ever...maybe?

Idk, do what you want...

That's how Radiohead chose to make money for that album. Certainly most artists would not be as successful at that as they were (given their notoriety before the album). The key point is, if an artist makes their money through traditional channels (record labels, itunes, whatever), then if you want to support them that means buying through traditional channels.

Just because Radiohead did it differently doesn't give everyone a free pass for piracy.

miggs1310

11-25-2008, 04:26 PM

Just because Radiohead did it differently doesn't give everyone a free pass for piracy.

not the message I was trying to convey

acosmichippo

11-25-2008, 04:55 PM

That's how Radiohead chose to make money for that album. Certainly most artists would not be as successful at that as they were (given their notoriety before the album).

nor would many artists be able to make such a demand of a record label.

"you want to do what?

Um, yeah... we'll get back to you on that one. Go play your music."

miggs1310

11-25-2008, 04:58 PM

nor would many artists be able to make such a demand of a record label.

"you want to do what?

Um, yeah... we'll get back to you on that one. Go play your music."

LOL, very true!!! Haha, luckily Radiohead doesn't have a record label, I don't think they'd get away with it if they did!

acosmichippo

11-26-2008, 12:52 AM

well, it IS possible to download songs from rhapsody, but the song is only available as part of the album there as well.

I may just have to buy a cheap used disc of amazon... as much as it pains me...

themanofthedark

12-02-2008, 08:18 AM