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Londonrockz568
11-17-2008, 07:21 PM
http://blog.wired.com/gadgets/2008/11/adobe-flash-on.html

We all hoped, some even prayed and adobe developed it. The only restriction is that Apple refused it because it violates the TOS and the SDK agreement.

Well...at least we can hope and pray for cut & paste or MMS.

ZR_Yancy
11-17-2008, 09:16 PM
I'm starting to hate Apple more & more.

Lincoln
11-17-2008, 09:31 PM
I've honestly never wanted Flash. I can use it on my MacBook and that's the only place I need it. All I really want out of Apple is theming and video recording. I could care less about MMS, copy & paste, etc.

Londonrockz568
11-17-2008, 10:44 PM
Thanks to Chris for putting the article up on the Home page....dang that was fast. 1hour from PM to home...i luv EIC!

Youngbinks
11-18-2008, 01:39 AM
I think the last thing Apple would offer would be theming, not quite sure why I feel this way. I've found that if I don't want for anything from Apple I won't be disappointed when it's never given to me.

timothy
11-18-2008, 01:41 AM
Hey Adobe! Cydia?











Just sayin' ......

connie
11-18-2008, 01:51 AM
I was looking up hours to an amusement park the other day and lo and bohold it was a site where you needed flash. I couldn't view the site and was a little ticked with my iphone.

acosmichippo
11-18-2008, 03:12 AM
at this point, i'm thinking it's for the best. Hell, the iphone can barely handle vanilla 2.1. I'm sure the number of software complaints would soar after a flash player was released.

**come on processor upgrade**

BigCiX
11-18-2008, 03:34 AM
Thank goodness for quickpwn!!!

projectdarkside
11-18-2008, 03:54 AM
Haha do you think Adobe could possible end up in Cydia one day:gasp:

miggs1310
11-18-2008, 09:58 AM
I was looking up hours to an amusement park the other day and lo and bohold it was a site where you needed flash. I couldn't view the site and was a little ticked with my iphone.


call them:2cool:

OJsakila
11-18-2008, 11:17 AM
This is being reported today...http://www.iphonehacks.com/2008/11/iphoneflashnews.html

brrempel
11-18-2008, 12:24 PM
I've honestly never wanted Flash.....I could care less about MMS, copy & paste, etc.

Well at least someone is getting what they want, good for you. And good on Apple for continuing to cater to their massive 8% market share!

Napoleon_PhoneApart
11-18-2008, 12:44 PM
I really care only about copy & paste. I'm in situations several times a week where copy & paste would really be useful. I use it a lot when browsing on my desktop; it's no different on my iPhone.

BigCiX
11-18-2008, 01:24 PM
I really care only about copy & paste. I'm in situations several times a week where copy & paste would really be useful. I use it a lot when browsing on my desktop; it's no different on my iPhone.

is copy and paste on this next update?

projectdarkside
11-18-2008, 01:27 PM
Sadly it isnt :(
-Well Im not really sad because personally I havnt yet found a need for copy and paste...like I dont really know where it could actually be useful in:gasp:

OJsakila
11-18-2008, 01:29 PM
is copy and paste on this next update?

Yea and so is flash and mms.... I hear they're going to apply an update to fix that broken speaker, too.

BigCiX
11-18-2008, 01:31 PM
Yea and so is flash and mms.... I hear they're going to apply an update to fix that broken speaker, too.

i would of had believed you if you would of had stayed with the copy and paste. You blew it when u added flash and mms.

Londonrockz568
11-18-2008, 06:15 PM
Haha do you think Adobe could possible end up in Cydia one day:gasp:

If Adobe flash (full not the watered down vers.) Ill pay whatever they'll charge for it. IF and IF they try and go thru cydia and the price for the app is below 30usd ill buy it. IMHO its VERY worth it.

Jobs dosent like competition....and i think he's still stuck int he mindset that the world will use quicktime for media. *knock knock Stevie....why have computers that run flash but cripple the mobile device that can render full sites? Thats kinda redundant and ironic to have a mobile device capable of rendering a full HTML site and not have flash.

which brings me to another point. Sum1 should sue the pants (ull eventually settle with them for a price) outa Apple for another misleading advertisment. The phone is not capable of rendering full HTML sites since it dosent have flash support. Sue them like that woman did who said the 3G speeds was false advertising. (which they arent as demonstrated on youtube of a kid repeating the comercial in real time and his phone was much slower than the "doctored" comercials.

aenti
11-18-2008, 07:50 PM
No.....
Hulu on the iPhone....
our love was never meant to be.

connie
11-18-2008, 08:18 PM
For the few who say copy & paste is not necessary they obviously do not get the viewmymessage username and password sent to them much. I get it constantly and am constantly reminding family and friends to email me their MMS and no videos please.
It would be nice not to have to go through all that.

acosmichippo
11-18-2008, 10:56 PM
or all those times Safari does not recognize a phone number as a phone number, or an address as an address, or when i want to copy the location of a pic into a post on a forum...

...shall we continue?

jsntrenkler
11-19-2008, 12:20 AM
Copy & Paste is huge, how about copying info from a contact and pasting it into an email?

projectdarkside
11-19-2008, 12:51 AM
For the few who say copy & paste is not necessary they obviously do not get the viewmymessage username and password sent to them much. I get it constantly and am constantly reminding family and friends to email me their MMS and no videos please.
It would be nice not to have to go through all that.I thought I saw your avatar somewhere:wink:
-Twilight?

Londonrockz568
11-19-2008, 01:33 AM
I thought I saw your avatar somewhere:wink:
-Twilight?

Yeah it's the picture from the first book. I just started reading it so far it's really good I hope the movie does it justice.

connie
11-19-2008, 01:42 AM
Read all 4, seeing the movie Thurs. at midnight but I heard it sucks so I am going in with low expectations. You could never make a movie even close to those books, they won't do it justice I can guarantee it, just look at the actors they picked.

projectdarkside
11-19-2008, 01:54 AM
Haha wow:eek:
-Kind of reminds me of when the first Harry Potter came out:rolleyes:

connie
11-19-2008, 02:03 AM
Haha wow:eek:
-Kind of reminds me of when the first Harry Potter came out:rolleyes:

Sort of, but with Vampires and Werewolves who blend in with the humans, and a hint of a love story but a lot of action and suspense too. I think they made it kind of cool to want to be a vampire or a werewolf.
I really got into them, I never got into Harry Potter books but know a lot of people who did.

acosmichippo
11-19-2008, 02:06 AM
who doesn't want to be a vampire or werewolf?

connie
11-19-2008, 02:08 AM
Well when you read those books it's sexy to be a vampire or werewolf.:tounge:

projectdarkside
11-19-2008, 02:12 AM
Werwolf >Vampire IMO:tounge:

Youngbinks
11-19-2008, 02:12 AM
Just wanted to say that I love the Harry Potter series.

connie
11-19-2008, 02:14 AM
Just wanted to say that I love the Harry Potter series.

Maybe we should start another thread because we are getting way off topic but did you enjoy the movies as much as the books?

projectdarkside
11-19-2008, 02:17 AM
I just got back from Youtube watching videos on the Blackberry Bold and HTC touch Pro and for some reason my "drive" or "craving" for the iPhone is starting to go away :(
-Im no traitor or anything lol! But seeing what these phones can do and how they do it makes the iPhone look like a toy instead of an actual productive device (no offense to anyone cause you know I dont mean it :tounge:)

projectdarkside
11-19-2008, 02:18 AM
Haha now that I think about it...WTF do I need with a blackberry LMAO!!:tounge::tounge:

connie
11-19-2008, 02:21 AM
I just got back from Youtube watching videos on the Blackberry Bold and HTC touch Pro and for some reason my "drive" or "craving" for the iPhone is starting to go away :(
-Im no traitor or anything lol! But seeing what these phones can do and how they do it makes the iPhone look like a toy instead of an actual productive device (no offense to anyone cause you know I dont mean it :tounge:)

PDS-This is called being an electronics or cell phone geek or ho which ever you prefer. Welcome to the club, where all new shiny phones are calling your name, you soon will be an addict, but your first step is to admit you have a problem. Very good, I'm proud of you.

projectdarkside
11-19-2008, 02:24 AM
Um...Herro *clears-throat*...Hello
-My name is George and I am a Cell Phone whore:tounge:

connie
11-19-2008, 02:30 AM
Um...Herro *clears-throat*...Hello
-My name is George and I am a Cell Phone whore:tounge:

LOL:D Very good! Welcome George.

Londonrockz568
11-19-2008, 02:58 AM
I just got back from Youtube watching videos on the Blackberry Bold and HTC touch Pro and for some reason my "drive" or "craving" for the iPhone is starting to go away :(
-Im no traitor or anything lol! But seeing what these phones can do and how they do it makes the iPhone look like a toy instead of an actual productive device (no offense to anyone cause you know I dont mean it :tounge:)

Royal Machintosh decree states: You are to be charged with conspiracy and high treason. The penalties of this herresey require you to be bound and tied to a post while mighty mice eat your eyes and fingers. You are to be decapitated via phonesaber and your ears will be subject to be bled dry from the laughs of high chancelor Steve jobs.

May god have mercy on thy soul.

IDeath-

jaeguyoon
11-19-2008, 06:33 AM
I really don't care for flash.

I mean just 2 years ago my phone I had couldn't play 3d games, or watch youtube, or surf the web (it did do the wack wap pages), wifi, 3g.

I guess I'm just not a hardcore iphone type. All I use it is to call, text, take some pics, and surf online when I have little breaks while I'm out.

Kentucky
11-19-2008, 07:59 PM
I'm starting to hate Apple more & more.

Wonder why Apple puts the ban on certain apps...??? ATT has basically told Apple NOT to create or approve bandwidth intensive apps because ATT is having so muich trouble with iPhones 'hogging' the system so badly that other subscribers have too many dropped calls, poor service , etc . All basically because they never planned on so much iPhone sales or activities taking place and they don't seem to want to spend the money to upgrade their systems to handle any more. They basically refused one of the radio station listening apps because ATT couldn't keep up with the bandwidth needed. Also does anyone notice the difference between the original Weather-Bug app and the newest one ??.... the older one let you view a streaming type weather video with Rachel the weather girl, now the newer version has eliminated the video option !
Don't think we'll see much of any kind of streaming or probably even any Flash ..ATT is clamping down on all the good possibilties and won't upgrade enough to let them exist much more !!!

Londonrockz568
11-20-2008, 04:21 AM
Wonder why Apple puts the ban on certain apps...??? ATT has basically told Apple NOT to create or approve bandwidth intensive apps because ATT is having so muich trouble with iPhones 'hogging' the system so badly that other subscribers have too many dropped calls, poor service , etc . All basically because they never planned on so much iPhone sales or activities taking place and they don't seem to want to spend the money to upgrade their systems to handle any more. They basically refused one of the radio station listening apps because ATT couldn't keep up with the bandwidth needed. Also does anyone notice the difference between the original Weather-Bug app and the newest one ??.... the older one let you view a streaming type weather video with Rachel the weather girl, now the newer version has eliminated the video option !
Don't think we'll see much of any kind of streaming or probably even any Flash ..ATT is clamping down on all the good possibilties and won't upgrade enough to let them exist much more !!!

The answer is AT&T is not as advanced as the telecommunications carriers in say Europe or Asia. The problem is this is their first year with 3g while other companies around the world have had this for years. The other problem is even tho some 10million iPhones were sold AT&T isn't seeing any money from them because if the multiple clauses in the exclusivity deal with apple. AT&T pretty much is being held together with the massive hedgeway from apple and their fast access DSL Internet program. As far as phones come not many people have landlines anymore and because of the drop in landline customers AT&T gets verylittle to operate. Just bare with them they'll keep launching more 3g satelites.

Kentucky
11-20-2008, 08:19 AM
The answer is AT&T is not as advanced as the telecommunications carriers in say Europe or Asia. The problem is this is their first year with 3g while other companies around the world have had this for years. The other problem is even tho some 10million iPhones were sold AT&T isn't seeing any money from them because if the multiple clauses in the exclusivity deal with apple. AT&T pretty much is being held together with the massive hedgeway from apple and their fast access DSL Internet program. As far as phones come not many people have landlines anymore and because of the drop in landline customers AT&T gets verylittle to operate. Just bare with them they'll keep launching more 3g satelites.

They might need more 3g satellites , but they also need more 3g enabled towers and do some maintainance on what they do have.

Londonrockz568
11-20-2008, 05:30 PM
they'll need more money and times is hard.

lild7hina
11-20-2008, 11:34 PM
copy and paste would be nice... but i really don't have a need for it... and so would flash.. i would like to watch videos on other sites besides youtube... but then again the iphone can't really handle a lot of stuff on safari w/o crashing...

acosmichippo
11-20-2008, 11:44 PM
...the iphone can't really handle a lot of stuff on safari w/o crashing...

exactly why i'm not complaining about it. we SHOULD be complaining about the overall performance of the iphone. Lag, crashes, etc.