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djkeev
10-13-2008, 05:55 PM
Hi,

I am well aware of no MMS in the iphone. My question is does anyone really know WHY ?
I searched and didn't find so forgive me if this is a repost here.

I have two theories.
1. Steve Jobs doesn't want to give Bill Gates one red cent in license fees even if it means crippling his product.

or
2. Bill Gates isn't about to grant that license to Steve Jobs because this will allow the new (don't get excited, purely hypothetical) Microsoft Phone which WILL have the MMS technology and trump iPhone. Withholding it also cripples the iPhone to an extent that may make people NOT purchase it and go with a MS smart phone instead.

Other ideas?
Anyone have any hard facts about this?

Not that knowing the WHY of no MMS will change anything, it would be nice to know though and through understanding will come acceptance and peace?.......or increased frustration and anger?

Dave
smknSRT8
10-13-2008, 06:21 PM
Interesting. What do you mean by Steve Jobs does not want to give Bill Gates one cent in license fees? I don't get it.
TAEWING59
10-13-2008, 06:58 PM
uh MMS has nothing to do wth microsoft... its just that they belive that the email is more powerful... but they still should have included it...
smknSRT8
10-13-2008, 07:01 PM
uh MMS has nothing to do wth microsoft... its just that they belive that the email is more powerful... but they still should have included it...
Are you talking to me or dj?
aq.timmy
10-13-2008, 07:12 PM
I'm not quite sure I understand what MMS has to do with Microsoft or Bill Gates.
smknSRT8
10-13-2008, 07:15 PM
OK, sounds like we are all confused a little bit! K, maybe a lot!
Hawk
10-13-2008, 08:03 PM
I am fairly certain that the OP must have googled MMS and the first thing that comes up is Microsoft Media Services, which is NOT what MMS stands for in the Cellular world. It stands for Multimedia Messaging Service.
for further clarification, here is a link to Wikipedia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multimedia_Messaging_Service

I was suprized to find out that MMS has only been around since 2002.
smknSRT8
10-13-2008, 08:13 PM
good thinking hawk. That is probably what happened.
djkeev
10-13-2008, 08:54 PM
good thinking hawk. That is probably what happened.

HI,

Yep, I humbly stand corrected!
My bad, egg on my face!
Older and now smarter!
Dave
xcissexc
10-13-2008, 09:02 PM
somewhere i read (dont remember where) that steve didnt want to include mms because he thinks its outdated and dying (good thing viewmymessage.com works so well *sarcasm*)
Swagger
10-13-2008, 09:12 PM
HI,

Yep, I humbly stand corrected!
My bad, egg on my face!
Older and now smarter!
Dave

It was an honest mistake don't sweat it. Every mistake is a learning experience so that's a good thing. Mark
Ezekiel2517
10-13-2008, 09:23 PM
I am fairly certain that the OP must have googled MMS and the first thing that comes up is Microsoft Media Services, which is NOT what MMS stands for in the Cellular world. It stands for Multimedia Messaging Service.
for further clarification, here is a link to Wikipedia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multimedia_Messaging_Service

I was suprized to find out that MMS has only been around since 2002.

ok, good cause I was about to say what the he'll are you talking about?
OJsakila
10-13-2008, 09:27 PM
ok, good cause I was about to say what the he'll are you talking about?

Obviously typed on the iphone!:laugh2:
mans_ruin66
10-13-2008, 09:41 PM
I really miss this feature a lot, and no matter the reason for the lack there of. I really wish I had it!
Ezekiel2517
10-13-2008, 10:22 PM
Obviously typed on the iphone!:laugh2:

lol, yeah I actually saw that before I hit submit, but was too lazy to correct it...
Tug
10-13-2008, 10:58 PM
I really miss this feature a lot, and no matter the reason for the lack there of. I really wish I had it!

Ditto Mans_Ruin.

Does anyone have a logical explanation as to why Apple doesn't support MMS?
Hawk
10-13-2008, 11:07 PM
mainly it's because Steve Jobs said so. He thinks the tech is antiquated and will be replaced by email. That would be fine if EVERYONE that owned a cell phone had email like we do on the iphone. But in actuallity, we are in the minority, and because we complain about it, other manufacturers are taking advantage of the situation and making sure it's included. Obviously, if it was so antiquated, why is everyone else still putting it on new phones?? However, it's a losing argument, since Apple seems to barely listen to it's customer base or think high enough of their competition to do anything about it.
Tug
10-13-2008, 11:13 PM
mainly it's because Steve Jobs said so.

Thank you Hawk, as hard as it is to accept I believe your right :smile:
jsntrenkler
10-14-2008, 12:32 AM
Hmmm, I think it's just plain wrong to leave out MMS. Steve is so wrong on this!
Hawk
10-14-2008, 06:55 AM
Unforunately, the debate about features left off the iPhone has raged since it's debut. Nothing we can do but let apple know how we feel and hope that actaully care enough to listen.
smknSRT8
10-14-2008, 08:26 AM
IMHO I think that Apple is slowing releasing all the necessities the phone has to offer. I think by doing this they are slowing realing(sp?) everyone in as opposed to having just having it all right away. This way not only will you get new customers but have old customers get the new phone. Who really knows though...
BigCiX
10-14-2008, 11:11 AM
I was suprized to find out that MMS has only been around since 2002.

i was sending mms when i working at the embassy in singapore in 2000. They were using sim-card before 2000.
Hawk
10-14-2008, 11:16 AM
i was sending mms when i working at the embassy in singapore in 2000. They were using sim-card before 2000.
You need to update that Wikipedia then!
jsntrenkler
10-14-2008, 02:26 PM
LOL ... They just need to fix the MMS problem ... Come on Steve, give us MMS!!!
jerni
10-14-2008, 04:15 PM
ok well now that's cleared up.... I guess I'll be the one to mention Swirly MMS on for jailbroken phones. Look it up in Cydia
Swagger
10-14-2008, 04:25 PM
I really miss this feature a lot, and no matter the reason for the lack there of. I really wish I had it!

The lack of MMS would even be a bit more tolerable if you didn't have to type in that long unneeded password and username (who's idea was that)??? How about AT&T just issuing "ONE" username and password to each user to view ALL of their picture mail. I never view any MMS sent to me. To much of a hassle. Mark
jarofclay73
10-14-2008, 04:31 PM
OH NO! MMS is the IPHONE KILLA!!!!!! :O
smknSRT8
10-15-2008, 01:31 PM
this reminds me of the time whn I had to do research on the white house but a different site than expected. Let's just say my mom was amazed and how long I spent researching.
jsntrenkler
10-16-2008, 12:22 AM
I wonder if Apples iPhone engineers ever check out sites like this? ... You would think that someone at Apple would at minimum acknowledge the issue.