Any news on 2.1?

[firewire]

We haven't heard much about the upcoming software update. There was more talk a few weeks ago, but nothing new has been announced or rumored the way updates usually are.

Apple does have an event coming up on September 9th. Anyone think they will use this as an opportunity to announce a new update or at least the coming of an update?

We should expect any of the following features: Bug fixes, the ability for apps to run "in the background," turn by turn directions for GPS, and a REAL attempt this time to improve reception.

[mikef1182]

I dont know if well ever see apps run in the background. I sure hope so, but I don't think it will be anytime soon if at all.

[firewire]

I dont know if well ever see apps run in the background. I sure hope so, but I don't think it will be anytime soon if at all.
I put "in the background" in quotations because it's another way of referring to this: http://www.iphoneatlas.com/2008/08/01/iphone-21-beta-2-why-push-matters/

[justahsquirrel]

maybe its going to be on the 9th in time for that special event thing..
but then again, it looks like an ipod refresh..

[paa79594]

i posted this somewhere else and a developer responded and reminded me that apple had taken out the push notification feature out of their newest seed, so who knows when it will become available, hopefully soon.

[mikef1182]

I put "in the background" in quotations because it's another way of referring to this: http://www.iphoneatlas.com/2008/08/01/iphone-21-beta-2-why-push-matters/

I gottcha. Just didn't want people to read and get their hopes up.

[monkeysrock0622]

I hope it's soon. This texting lag is driving me crazy!

[Youngbinks]

I'm sure that Apple is receiving a ton of complaints from all over the world in regards to the bugginess of the 2.0 software. I would imagine that Apple is working to come out with a firmware fix very soon, hopefully in time for the iPod announcement (if that is what it ends up being).

[dieburnbot]

I can't wait for firmware 2.1. I've been checking google for new updates on it pretty much every other day and most of the sites have the same old information about push being taken out.

[chazm]

I hope it's soon. This texting lag is driving me crazy!

Though it is a small pain, did you know you can type 1 letter and then move the cursor back behind that letter and it types normal?

This helps out even though its only happened once to me since the new update a couple of weeks ago

[cdelauz]

Any news???????

[kenneth]

i havent heard any but it needs to hurry so i can go ahead and jailbreak.

[cdelauz]

i havent heard any but it needs to hurry so i can go ahead and jailbreak.

Yea thats what im waitting to jailbreak it aswell

[firewire]

I jailbroke it with 2.0.2 because I can't sit around and wait until 2.1 comes out and THEN wait for that to be jailbroken too. I really wanted my cycorder and winterboard, two things that ironically should have been provided by Jobs himself.

[kenneth]

correct me if I'm wrong but you will have to redo all of your themes and apps when you update correct?

[firewire]

correct me if I'm wrong but you will have to redo all of your themes and apps when you update correct?
Sadly yes. But it really doesn't take long unless you have a crazy amount of third party apps to reinstall.

[OJsakila]

god speed...........

[flabyboy]

Just read this

http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/08/09/06/claims_renew_itunes_8_expectations_slate_iphone_2_ 1_for_event.html

[kenneth]

^^^

Interesting. I hope they fix most of the issues so this phone will really "shine". I can't wait to JB!!

[gotzaiPhone]

So if the article is true, waiting till the 11th or 12th to update might be a good course of action to not have another 2.0 fiasco again....

[kenneth]

well as soon as it comes out all of y'all get it so well know if it's worth it or it's worse than it is now.

[Owgasm]

:O so.. when this update comes out, the phone pretty much resets?
I lose all apps and the data within the app.
All messages/e-mails/texts and contacts?
wah! i dont want to update now.

[kenneth]

What the phone resets? I must have missed that little detail.

[dturner]

:O so.. when this update comes out, the phone pretty much resets?
I lose all apps and the data within the app.
All messages/e-mails/texts and contacts?
wah! i dont want to update now.

What the phone resets? I must have missed that little detail.
If past history is any indication(2.0.1-2.0.2) itunes will do a backup of the phone, completely erase it, install the new firmware, and then put everything back on the phone.
So you aren't going to lose anything.:smile:

[kenneth]

^^^
Thanks dturner for showing me my noob side about the iPhone.

[SikShift]

^^^
Thanks dturner for showing me my noob side about the iPhone.

Hey, we all gotta start somewhere right?

Soon you'll be the one helping out :smile:

[Owgasm]

Oh. good. :) happy now.
Just a post back a bit said you ahve to reinstall all apps etc again T_T crazy.

[firewire]

However when 2.1 does come out with a jailbroken version, then you really will lose all your info since you can't restore from a backup. That is of course if you want to jailbreak in the first place.

[kenneth]

yea I will be losing everything when I jailBreak 2.1. What about all of my contacts? Do I need to write all of them down or is there a way that I can keep them?

[firewire]

yea I will be losing everything when I jailBreak 2.1. What about all of my contacts? Do I need to write all of them down or is there a way that I can keep them?
No, things like contacts, emails, and bookmarks, because you sync them with other programs (such as outlook, firefox, etc.), will be returned to your phone with the next sync. However, things like high scores in apps, recent call list, and any other data saved in apps will not be restored since you are not restoring from backup where it stores all this info.

Regarding contacts, do you use a program that manages these sort of things?

[kenneth]

no I don't have any sort of program that does that... I guess I better find one or find away to transfer them to my sim.

[liberated]

However, things like high scores in apps, recent call list, and any other data saved in apps will not be restored since you are not restoring from backup where it stores all this info.



Not quite.... This is what I did with Monkeyball. Install Appbackup, save the progress, SSH and save the progress file to your PC, restore, reinstall Monkeyball, reinstall Appbackup, save monkeyball with it, SSH and replace the backup file with the one one you saved prior to the upgrade and there you have all the progress back!:2cool:

[OJsakila]

I'm not sure if tie been mentioned yet but iphonehacks is reporting that 2.1 will come out Tuesday. Apparently there are several "beta" 2.1 firmwares out there and Tuesday it will be official.

[liberated]

Any major improvements rumored?

[OJsakila]

copy and paste and turn by turn.

And hopefully a slew of corrected bugs

[kenneth]

dammit OJ!!!! There you go getting eveyones hopes up!

[SikShift]

So supposedly, the 2.1 firmware comes out tomorrow right?

[kenneth]

supposedly... I have to work till Thursday so I'm going to give it till then and hopefully everyone will know if it's a upgrade.

[SikShift]

Yea, after seeing the fiasco of the 2.0 update, I'm going to give it a couple days

[OJsakila]

Yea, after seeing the fiasco of the 2.0 update, I'm going to give it a couple days

this is the second time I wrote all this but right before I could hit the post button, 2.0.2's safari crashed on me...

How could 2.1 EVER be any worse than this horse **** firmware we've got now!? This phone is now as unstable as the hp Ipaq EVER was. And that was 2003-4.

I'm getting the update the very second it comes out. Apple has really screwed this phone up in the two updates. Morons.

[itsnowornever]

I haven't had any issues really---I mean, no more than expected.

We'll see what happens when the upgrade comes out. I dont want to upgrade until they have the JB...I love having my themes and my videorecorder!

[SikShift]

Well, let me know how it turns out OJ

[OJsakila]

Well, let me know how it turns out OJ


Yea we'll see... The article I read at iphonehacks said the Dev team said the 2.5 pawnage works on the beta firmware.. So hopefully not much of a wait for the jailbreaking process

[paa79594]

copy and paste and turn by turn.

And hopefully a slew of corrected bugs

Which article points to copy/paste rumors? I've seen the turn by turn rumors.

[OJsakila]

Here's the article...




iPhone Firmware 2.1 Could Also be Released on Sept 9, Could Include Surprise New Features

http://www.iphonehacks.com/images/08-Sept/iphone-v21.jpg
When I had reported about Apple's special event on September 9 (http://www.iphonehacks.com/2008/09/special-event.html), I had mentioned that the event will be more focused towards music and that its widely speculated that Apple will be releasing new iPod nanos and a new iPod Touch at the event.
I had also mentioned that there are no news or rumors to suggest that there will be any specific announcements at the event. But looks like we could be in for a surprise.
Ars Technica has just reported that based on their sources in Apple, iPhone firmware 2.1 (http://www.iphonehacks.com/iphone_firmware_21/) might also be released on September 9 which could include some surprise new features.


We have already seen four beta versions of 2.1 (first (http://www.iphonehacks.com/2008/07/firmware-21beta.html), second (http://www.iphonehacks.com/2008/07/sdk-2-1-beta2.html), third (http://www.iphonehacks.com/2008/08/firmware21beta3.html), fourth (http://www.iphonehacks.com/2008/08/firmware21beta4.html)) released to developers of the iPhone Developer Program, the last beta version released three weeks back.
The beta versions of iPhone firmware 2.1 (http://www.iphonehacks.com/iphone_firmware_21/) had revealed entries for several commands the firmware does not currently support, including cutting, copying and pasting which indicated that we could see the Copy and Paste feature soon.
Apple had also included new Core Location features which indicates that turn-by-turn GPS on iPhone 3G (http://www.iphonehacks.com/iphone_3g/) could become a reality as it can reportedly track your direction and the speed at which you are traveling.
The other interesting development was Apple pulling out its Push Notification Service APIs (http://www.iphonehacks.com/2008/08/push-notificatn.html) in the fourth beta version of iPhone firmware 2.1 for "further development" that would have allowed to process notifications in the background.
Ars Technica has reported that as per their sources, other than the speculations mentioned above, there were some parts to iPhone firmware 2.1 that were specifically removed from beta versions that were seeded to developers to keep them secret from the world.
The fact that the last beta version of firmware 2.1 was released three weeks back (August 17, 2008) also indicates it could well have been declared the Gold Master in anticipation of the upcoming release.

The surprise element has definitely got me excited and I am looking forward to Apple's special event on September 9th but share the concern raised by Ars Technica that it also means there will be features released in firmware 2.1 that have not been widely tested outside of Apple.
I guess most would like to see issues such as dropped calls (http://www.iphonehacks.com/2008/08/3g-fix-details.html), slow iPhone syncs (http://www.iphonehacks.com/2008/09/slowiphonesyncs.html), iPhone apps crashing issues (http://www.iphonehacks.com/2008/08/app-crashes-fix.html), 3G reception issues (http://www.iphonehacks.com/2008/08/3g-reception.html), Apple Logo Screen of Death problem (http://www.iphonehacks.com/2008/08/screen-of-death.html) are resolved in the latest iPhone firmware with new features just as a bonus.
If the news of the iPhone firmware 2.1 has got you worried on the iPhone Hacking (http://www.iphonehacks.com/) front, then you may breathe easy as the iPhone Dev Team (http://www.iphonehacks.com/iphone_dev_team/) had informed us that their Pwnage Tool (http://www.iphonehacks.com/2008/08/pwnagetool-2031.html) works with iPhone firmware 2.1 (tested with the beta 1) (http://www.iphonehacks.com/2008/07/firmware21pwned.html) though we will need to see if it works with the release version of the latest iPhone firmware.
What would you like to see in iPhone firmware 2.1?
[via Ars Technica (http://arstechnica.com/journals/apple.ars/2008/09/06/on-itunes-8-and-hunches-also-iphone-2-1-for-tuesday)]

[firewire]

Great article Ojsakila. It really sums up what most of us are hoping for. I have a terrible worry thought that tomorrow will come and nothing will be mentioned regarding a new firmware.

[OJsakila]

Great article Ojsakila. It really sums up what most of us are hoping for. I have a terrible worry thought that tomorrow will come and nothing will be mentioned regarding a new firmware.

**knocks on wood like a crazed woodpecker**

[OJsakila]

ok it's 7:40 am EST and I'm licking my chops! Comon' update!

[kenneth]

haha I just got off work hoping that it would have released and everyone would have started the mayhem.

[cdelauz]

it prolly wont be released till after the 1:00pm lets rock show

[Owgasm]

keep me updated. Have been holding off my dls cause on the edge of being capped. Will dl 2.1 though

[musicmanmu]

2.1 will be out this Friday - "big update, fixes a lot of bugs. Fewer dropped calls, big batter life imporvements. No crashes with apps. Backing up is faster."

Per Steve Jobs.

[Owgasm]

"...No crashes with apps..." lol.
I wish. Another law suit if its not true?

[Lincoln]

Please discuss the 2.1 firmware in the 2.1 Sticky. Thanks.

[OJsakila]

The police are here

[firewire]

The police are here
Why aren't you arrested then? :tounge:

[jareknyc]

any new news?

[MileHighRob]

any new news?
waiting with as much patience as one can possibly have... tired of the "this version of the iPhone software (2.0.2) is the current version" message though