NFL Football anyone?

[Ramesh]

I'm a huge Bucs fan. After the Bucs, I really enjoy Dallas. I'm a HUGE T.O. fan. Hopefully the Bucs can beat the pattern of winning the division then ending up in last or 3rd place in the division in the following year.

Anyone else into NFL football?

[kokogirl]

Bucs let Simms go. We follow the Bucs here.

[Ramesh]

Yea, I know. I REALLY follow the Bucs from here, too. :) It's too bad, I think he had a hell of an arm, but needed consistent play time. Oh well, I like Johnson (rookie) a lot, and hopefully he can be the QB of the future.

[psylichon]

http://www.firstandtensportsden.com/store/images/product_images/VINYLMAGNET-EAGLES.jpg

[lady_bugz22]

Dallas Cowboys!!

[Starry]

http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k14/xox0xo/aerocharm/sports/football/dallas-cowboys/05.gif

Nuff Said!
:2cool:

[harleygold]

NFL? What's that stand for? ;)






















kidding!...im a Colts fan!

[jjvaldez]

niners the colts!

[aggieman]

Yea, I know. I REALLY follow the Bucs from here, too. :) It's too bad, I think he had a hell of an arm, but needed consistent play time. Oh well, I like Johnson (rookie) a lot, and hopefully he can be the QB of the future.

there are persistent rumors simms will end up here in Dallas backing up romo.

Hey ramesh have you already done the fantasy draft? I've been so busy with work and the wedding and honeymoon I've not been able to keep up

[acosmichippo]

Foos-ball? Buncha overgrown monsters man-handlin' each other...

[Ramesh]

there are persistent rumors simms will end up here in Dallas backing up romo.

Hey ramesh have you already done the fantasy draft? I've been so busy with work and the wedding and honeymoon I've not been able to keep up
Yep. Log in. you need to update your individual dbacks and dline.

[aknightstale41]

Gints
3595

[OJsakila]

Vvvvvvvvvvv

[OJsakila]

http://i247.photobucket.com/albums/gg144/OJsakila/da049a9e.jpg

[aggieman]

http://i247.photobucket.com/albums/gg144/OJsakila/da049a9e.jpg

does dallasnews have a wallpaper of Marion the Barbarian? Crayton blew that playoff game last year and sucks balls.

[Hondamaker]

Start the flaming, but I'm a Bengals fan! Maybe someday they'll get their **** together.

[spampy22]

I'm a bengals fan too, some day when I'm old a grey I will see another winning season.

[aggieman]

bengals suck but I like the hell out of Carson palmer and ocho cinco

[OJsakila]

How about this one.......

http://i247.photobucket.com/albums/gg144/OJsakila/2008sked_rwilliams1600x1200.jpg

[aggieman]

How about this one.......

http://i247.photobucket.com/albums/gg144/OJsakila/2008sked_rwilliams1600x1200.jpg

ha you are getting worse instead of better. Roy Williams couldn't cover my slow old ass!

[OJsakila]

Start the flaming, but I'm a Bengals fan! Maybe someday they'll get their **** together.


http://i247.photobucket.com/albums/gg144/OJsakila/soapdish.jpg

[aggieman]

OJ are you a falcons fan?

[OJsakila]

ha you are getting worse instead of better. Roy Williams couldn't cover my slow old ass!


Dude! The guy's a tank! Like 8 or 9 pro bowls or something... yea he's old and not really a pass guy but he's the man you want on run support!

[OJsakila]

Falcons are cool but I liked the Cowboys at like 8 years old so I gotta stick.

Roger the dodger and Tony Hill drew pearson tony d hollywood harvey martin too tall bennie barns pat donavon john fitzgerald, danny white cliff harris charley waters dd lewis robert newhouse jay saldi billy joe dupree blah blah

[aknightstale41]

Might have better luck with the Browns this year.
btw, what the heck is a Brown? Aside from a dismal color tha belongs on a ups truck, the name lacks pizazz.

[OJsakila]

Might have better luck with the Browns this year.
btw, what the heck is a Brown? Aside from a dismal color tha belongs on a ups truck, the name lacks pizazz.

ITS A DOG. Where are you from, Pluto?


j/k of course. And by the way, The Browns own one of the most storied football pasts... I dig the browns....Brian Sipe almost got them past John Elway...Anyone remember that AFC Champoinship game?

[aknightstale41]

lol, Didnt know that...you get a thanks for educating me juice...

[Hondamaker]

Might have better luck with the Browns this year.
btw, what the heck is a Brown? Aside from a dismal color tha belongs on a ups truck, the name lacks pizazz.Brown is the color of poop, and that describes the Browns to a 'T'.

[Hondamaker]

http://i247.photobucket.com/albums/gg144/OJsakila/soapdish.jpgLMAO! Good one! :tounge:

[MileHighRob]

Start the flaming, but I'm a Bengals fan! Maybe someday they'll get their **** together.
Sorry but I couldn't resist... it's not very often my Saints' D gets to an opposing QB this badly:

http://i36.tinypic.com/2ppbyj8.jpg

[Ramesh]

lol. I'll be popping in to talk some smack after the bucs/saints games, rob. :D

[MileHighRob]

lol. I'll be popping in to talk some smack after the bucs/saints games, rob. :D
Cool... I'll be at the game providing it's still going to be held at the Superdome.

[Ramesh]

Cool... I'll be at the game providing it's still going to be held at the Superdome.
There's talk of the NFL swapping the games. If that happens, the Bucs will have 1 home game in 2 months, late season.

[MileHighRob]

There's talk of the NFL swapping the games. If that happens, the Bucs will have 1 home game in 2 months, late season.
Our schedule is already whack as it is with the London "home game"... and we've got a six week stretch during that time between home games.

I'm hopeful the home opener will be played Sunday in the dome.

[Starry]

Sorry but I couldn't resist... it's not very often my Saints' D gets to an opposing QB this badly:

http://i36.tinypic.com/2ppbyj8.jpg

Uh hate to ask what the hell happened to HIM? LOL

[MileHighRob]

Uh hate to ask what the hell happened to HIM? LOL
Got sacked and had his nose broken. :gasp:

[Starry]

Oh Ok... Thanks :)

[We Beat U]

the 3kings beat all you guys.

[MileHighRob]

the 3kings beat all you guys.
the 3kings?

[Ramesh]

the 3kings?

maybe he meant the "tripplets"?

[aggieman]

ITS A DOG. Where are you from, Pluto?


j/k of course. And by the way, The Browns own one of the most storied football pasts... I dig the browns....Brian Sipe almost got them past John Elway...Anyone remember that AFC Champoinship game?

I was just a kid but that is still one of the greatest games I've ever seen.

[Youngbinks]

I am a lifetime Miami Dolphin fan, as is my entire family. Hopefully this season will be less disappointing than last year.

[aknightstale41]

I am a lifetime Miami Dolphin fan, as is my entire family. Hopefully this season will be less disappointing than last year.

I like the fins as well, i thought Marino was the best QB to ever play the game, he should have gotten a ring in his long carreer...he deserved it.

[Youngbinks]

I like the fins as well, i thought Marino was the best QB to ever play the game, he should have gotten a ring in his long carreer...he deserved it.

Ugh, you have no idea how much I agree with that statement. I think it's truly sad that he was never able to get the ring, because he definitely deserved it.

[Ramesh]

I like the fins as well, i thought Marino was the best QB to ever play the game, he should have gotten a ring in his long carreer...he deserved it.
well, wouldn't the "best qb to ever play the game" have gotten a ring?

(being devil's advocate. I am a fan of Marino as well)

[Ramesh]

You can't deserve a ring - you earn it.

[Youngbinks]

I think he certainly did more than his share to earn it. You can only do so much with what you are given to work with.

[Ramesh]

I think he certainly did more than his share to earn it. You can only do so much with what you are given to work with.
true.

/devil's advocate

[Youngbinks]

Rammy, the Bucs should hopefully be solid this year too. I'm a lifetime Miami fan but have lived in Tampa my entire life. My parents were in Tampa before the advent of the Bucs so we have always rooted for Miami. However, we still root for the Bucs as long as they are not playing Miami.

[Ramesh]

Rammy, the Bucs should hopefully be solid this year too. I'm a lifetime Miami fan but have lived in Tampa my entire life. My parents were in Tampa before the advent of the Bucs so we have always rooted for Miami. However, we still root for the Bucs as long as they are not playing Miami.
We'll see. Garcia didn't play preseason, nor Galloway - and the NFC South Champ has sunken to the bottom the following year. No one has repeated. Well, I have my 99 Red Sapp Jersey ready, and my Authentic T.O. Throwback ready to go for Friday and Monday at work. :)

[MileHighRob]

We'll see. Garcia didn't play preseason, nor Galloway - and the NFC South Champ has sunken to the bottom the following year. No one has repeated. Well, I have my 99 Red Sapp Jersey ready, and my Authentic T.O. Throwback ready to go for Friday and Monday at work. :)
Hopefully that will give you an edge come Sunday Ramesh... but I wouldn't bank on that happening.

Just thought I'd get the smack started right away. I'm not patient enough to wait until Sunday after the game. Anyway, I plan on being in the Quarter immediately following the game celebrating the win and won't have time to rib you then.

Of course, I'm still hoping the schedule gods look down upon us and don't make us travel to TB Sunday.

[Ramesh]

Hopefully that will give you an edge come Sunday Ramesh... but I wouldn't bank on that happening.

Just thought I'd get the smack started right away. I'm not patient enough to wait until Sunday after the game. Anyway, I plan on being in the Quarter immediately following the game celebrating the win and won't have time to rib you then.

Of course, I'm still hoping the schedule gods look down upon us and don't make us travel to TB Sunday.
lol - I was being negative. Look at LT. The guy's golden. But he has 14 career carries in the preseason. He usually starts "clicking" around the 3rd or 4th week into season.

Garcia and Galloway are elderly now, but they should have played some preseason. They aren't the type of players that can "flip a switch", evidenced by the playoffs last year....

But - the Saints are going down. I'm tired of hearing the same effing sob story about the hurricane and all that crap - but that's a different thread. This one is about sports.

[Ramesh]

oh and -
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/football/nfl/specials/preview/2008/09/02/saints.ap/index.html

[MileHighRob]

oh and -
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/football/nfl/specials/preview/2008/09/02/saints.ap/index.html
Yeah my dad just called minutes ago to let me know about the decision.

And regarding the "same effing sob story about the hurricane and all that crap", I sincerely hope that neither you nor no one you really care about ever has to go through a natural disaster that completely shatters life as you know it.

[Ramesh]

Yeah my dad just called minutes ago to let me know about the decision.

And regarding the "same effing sob story about the hurricane and all that crap", I sincerely hope that neither you nor no one you really care about ever has to go through a natural disaster that completely shatters life as you know it.
I have - Hurricane Andrew in Miami, and in the mid 90's up in NC. So I understand... I apologize for sounding rough and heartless - so I'll PM you to clarify.

So I guess it's a go for Sunday after all. Saints are heading back Friday it seems.

[psylichon]

http://www.firstandtensportsden.com/store/images/product_images/VINYLMAGNET-EAGLES.jpg

Bump for 38-3. [Ahem] It's on...

[Ramesh]

Bump for 38-3. [Ahem] It's on...

Yea, yea.... Stupid Saints. It was a good game though....

[aggieman]

Bump for 38-3. [Ahem] It's on...

I wouldn't get too excited over beating a barely better than high school level Rams team.

You will be much less happy come next Monday night.

[Ramesh]

I wouldn't get too excited over beating a barely better than high school level Rams team.

You will be much less happy come next Monday night.

hehe, go Cowboys. T.O. got a TD, I was happy that one of my teams won. (Cowboys are my number 2 team).

[Youngbinks]

Both the Dolphins and Bucs games were disappointments, hopefully it'll be better next Sunday.

[Tex]

I wouldn't get too excited over beating a barely better than high school level Rams team.

You will be much less happy come next Monday night.

Yeah, that Browns team; such a STOUT defense, and a powerful offense....really a tough game for you guys too, huh? :rolls eyes: What a lame comeback for such a dominating performance. You must be saying the same about your win. LOL.

I am happy that you choose to dismiss the Eagles so easily. It will make it hurt that much more when you get a swift kick of reality to the balls next week. ;)

You are going to be crying in your beer next Monday night. Mark My Word. :)

[Tex]

You'll be seeing more of the same next week..something the cowgirls are good at - crying:

Wittle Womo needs a hug.
http://blogs.king5.com/seahawks/images/romo_botched.jpg

It Hurts.... LOL!

http://assets.espn.go.com/photo/2008/0115/pg2_a_owens_200.jpg

Get yourself ready to get "Romo'ed" again.

(Bracing self for typical lame cowboys fan posting of McNabb puking on the field due to dehydration in 5....4...3...2...1.....)

[aggieman]

You'll be seeing more of the same next week..something the cowgirls are good at - crying:

Wittle Womo needs a hug.
http://blogs.king5.com/seahawks/images/romo_botched.jpg

It Hurts.... LOL!

http://assets.espn.go.com/photo/2008/0115/pg2_a_owens_200.jpg

Get yourself ready to get "Romo'ed" again.

(Bracing self for typical lame cowboys fan posting of McNabb puking on the field due to dehydration in 5....4...3...2...1.....)

nah I actually like McNabb. I won't post that pic.

I do think the Eagles get beat at Texas Stadium, probably close to the same fashion the Cowboys dismantled Cleveland in the Dawg Pound.

However, I think Philly hands Dallas the 2nd of their losses on the way to a 14-2 season when they play in Philly in December. Both Cowboys losses will be in PA, the other being at Pittsburgh.

A team that I was really impressed with and is very strong on both sides of the ball is the Steelers. Big Ben is as accurate as it gets, Willie Parker is still underrated, Hines Ward/Santonio Holmes are a great WR tandem, and their defense is always strong.

With Brady out for the year, very uninspiring games on behalf of the Colts and Chargers, I'm now thinking another Dallas/Pittsburgh Super Bowl.

[Tex]

You really underestimate this strong Eagles team, thinking the Eagles will lose to Dallas in a similar fashion that you saw in Cleveland yesterday. The Eagles D is one of the best in the league. They are going to match up against the Dallas WRs very well, and are going to get a ton of pressure on Romo. We have one of the best pass rushing Defenses in the league, and a pretty damn STOUT run defense too (i.e. Steven Jackson was held to 4o total yards. He isn't a slouch). I think you are gravely wrong if you expect a blow out at Texas Stadium. It's going to be a close, hard fought game IMO.

I agree, I have a feeling that Dallas and Philly might split Ws this year, but I am not going to hope for less than a W both times. It's going to be a fun year, I think. IF (and its a big IF) McNabb stays healthy, we are going to be flying high into the post season.

I am oddly happy to know that Brady is out....I never like a guy to get injured, but I personally think the Brady and the Pats were really full of themselves last year. I hope he recovers to 100% for next year. (Eagles fans know the pains associated with QB injuries...especially ACL tears).

[aggieman]

I'm thinking a 14 point win. It won't be quite as easy, but Cleveland is a pretty darn good team and the Cowboys made them look silly. I think the Eagles are better than Cleveland, especially on defense, but if the Cowboys are clicking there isn't anybody that's going to be able to stop them. They are just that loaded on offense. Defensively if they are healthy they could be the top unit in the NFL as well.

That said, no disrespect meant to the Eagles. If one team in the NFC challenges the Cowboys this year, it will be the Eagles for sure. I wouldn't get too psyched up about stopping Steven Jackson though. He held out of all of training camp. He was getting his first action since last year. We will see how they do against the Barbarian and Felix.

Chicago is another team to watch out for. Looks like they found themselves a nice young running back. Orton played decently at QB, and their defense looked as dominant as they ever have. I'm still not sure if Indy was just that bad though or if Chicago was that good. Indy looked pretty pathetic.

I honestly hope Brady can recover. I'm tired of seeing the Patriots win. I'd hate to see them have an excuse to lose now. I do like Brady, but I'm tired of the Patriots/Red Sox/Celtics ****iness coming out of the Northeast. You always wanna beat a team when they are at their best, and if they do miss the playoffs or somehow make the Super Bowl again, whoever does beat them should want to do it with them at full strength.

BTW, did anybody see that performance by Michael Turner yesterday? I always knew he was good but was not gonna play much behind LT in SD, but wow, just wow. He may just be the leading rusher this year.

[MileHighRob]

Yea, yea.... Stupid Saints. It was a good game though....
All ears here waiting for the smack Ramesh. LOL

Anyway, it was an exciting game. I'm hoarse now from screaming my lungs out. The Dome was louder than when we took the Eagles out of the playoffs in '06.

I really expected a close game. Afterall, 14 of the last 17 games between these two teams were settled by 7 points or less. However, I didn't expect the Bucs to have an opportunity to take the win driving in the final seconds of the fourth quarter though. Carolina beat us last year in the final seconds at home and I was experiencing a bit of deja vu there for a minute... It was pretty unnverving.

The NFC South looks pretty tough again this year. Freakin' Michael Turner put up over 200 yds on the ground yesterday for Atlanta. I also don't know of many people that predicted the Panthers to take that one from the Chargers. Should be an interesting season for sure!

[Tex]

All ears here waiting for the smack Ramesh. LOL

Anyway, it was an exciting game. I'm hoarse now from screaming my lungs out. The Dome was louder than when we took the Eagles out of the playoffs in '06.


Ah, the year Garcia almost single handedly brought us back to the SuperBowl...That was a CRAZY year. That, also, was one hell of a game by both teams. Hard fought, hard hitting, and great scoring. Best Hit in YEARS happend at that game....I remember the bar just lit up with hundreds of audible "BOOOOOOM"s from the crowd. LOL. Great night.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b6ZOK8okDRA&feature=related

Props to Drew Brees btw, and al the Fantasy Football points he gave me, and will continue to give me. Always liked the Saints....even though I have a secret hatred of Reggie Bush (Hint: USC and Heisman.....didn't belong to him ;) ).

[aggieman]

Ah, the year Garcia almost single handedly brought us back to the SuperBowl...That was a CRAZY year. That, also, was one hell of a game by both teams. Hard fought, hard hitting, and great scoring. Best Hit in YEARS happend at that game....I remember the bar just lit up with hundreds of audible "BOOOOOOM"s from the crowd. LOL. Great night.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b6ZOK8okDRA&feature=related

Props to Drew Brees btw, and al the Fantasy Football points he gave me, and will continue to give me. Always liked the Saints....even though I have a secret hatred of Reggie Bush (Hint: USC and Heisman.....didn't belong to him ;) ).

It doesn't matter, neither Bush or VY are near as good in the NFL as they were in college. Bush never should have been drafted as high as he was. He has flashes of brilliance but he is never gonna be a star as an every down back. If he was on my team I'd move him to WR. At least VY has the excuse of Tenn not ever giving him any receivers to work with. What's up with that anyways? Do they have something against drafting a receiver? They could have had VY's buddy Limas Sweed in the draft.

[MileHighRob]

I don't think Payton's going to even attempt to use him as anything that even remotely resembles an every down back this season. He had 163 all purpose yards yesterday and, you guessed it, the majority (112) was receiving. With all the offensive weapons that Brees has to choose from, if Bush puts up numbers anywhere close to his rookie year I'll be pleased. When the defense has to account for Colston, Patten, Shockey, Henderson, Meachem and whomever else Payton decides to throw into the mix I'm confident Reggie's gonna get his numbers this year. And I don't expect 'em to come from up the gut either.

[Ramesh]

I don't think Payton's going to even attempt to use him as anything that even remotely resembles an every down back this season. He had 163 all purpose yards yesterday and, you guessed it, the majority (112) was receiving. With all the offensive weapons that Brees has to choose from, if Bush puts up numbers anywhere close to his rookie year I'll be pleased. When the defense has to account for Colston, Patten, Shockey, Henderson, Meachem and whomever else Payton decides to throw into the mix I'm confident Reggie's gonna get his numbers this year. And I don't expect 'em to come from up the gut either.

I agree with Jason (and you to some degree). Bush is not as good as he thinks he is. He still hasn't figured the outside run doesn't work all the time, or very often in the NFL. He still bounces all around looking for the hole.

[MileHighRob]

I agree with Jason (and you to some degree). Bush is not as good as he thinks he is. He still hasn't figured the outside run doesn't work all the time, or very often in the NFL. He still bounces all around looking for the hole.
True... and he scored the winning TD yesterday sending the Bucs back to TB with a big L!

Whether he's being used an everydown back or a decoy, he's very valuable to this offense. He's going to give DCs headaches again this year trying to game plan against him and the crazy formations in which Payton will use him.

[Tex]

Reggie has never been an up the middle back. That isn't his skill set. He is an back that was always utilized in the passing game, and for runs on the outside. That is where his successes came at USC. Joining the ranks of the NFL, he had to bulk up since college.....taking away some of his trademark "elusivness". He is still an elusive back in terms of NFL RBs, but the NFL regulates him to a much less important role compared to how he was used in college, but still important overall as defenses need to account for where he is on the field at all times. That alone is an important asset.

[Tex]

I agree with Jason (and you to some degree). Bush is not as good as he thinks he is. He still hasn't figured the outside run doesn't work all the time, or very often in the NFL. He still bounces all around looking for the hole.

The holes don't come as easy in the NFL, either. He certainly has learned that. N.O.'s O-Line is that great, are they (I am asking)?

Bush was a tandem back in college (LenDale White was their up the middle back).

Bush still can provide the lightening. High expectations seemed to cause some grumbling, but overall, he has been steady enough to warrant respect. He can only improve. If used right, he could be as good as Westbrook.

[MileHighRob]

The holes don't come as easy in the NFL, either. He certainly has learned that. N.O.'s O-Line is that great, are they (I am asking)?

Bush was a tandem back in college (LenDale White was their up the middle back).

Bush still can provide the lightening. High expectations seemed to cause some grumbling, but overall, he has been steady enough to warrant respect. He can only improve. If used right, he could be as good as Westbrook.
I'd say pretty good... Look at the protection Brees gets and I'm almost certain we allowed the fewest sacks in the league the last two seasons.

[Tex]

I'd say pretty good... Look at the protection Brees gets and I'm almost certain we allowed the fewest sacks in the league the last two seasons.

Good at Pass protection....how about run blocking? I mean, Deuce does alright for himself (when he plays healthy), so I imagine that have a decent O-line to open holes.

[Ramesh]

The holes don't come as easy in the NFL, either. He certainly has learned that. N.O.'s O-Line is that great, are they (I am asking)?

Bush was a tandem back in college (LenDale White was their up the middle back).

Bush still can provide the lightening. High expectations seemed to cause some grumbling, but overall, he has been steady enough to warrant respect. He can only improve. If used right, he could be as good as Westbrook.

Personally, I don't think he'll ever be as good as Westbrook. Westbrook is a great hybrid back. Bush has no power to pound guys. He's 100% finesse - which is fine and will work for NO when used properly. My overall feeling is that he was drafted WAY too high for his skill sets - but I guess that could be said for many.

[psylichon]

Westbrook is a great hybrid back.

Watching him strongarm a dude twice his size into the turf on an opening run yesterday was a thing of beauty. B-West is da man.

[Ramesh]

Watching him strongarm a dude twice his size into the turf on an opening run yesterday was a thing of beauty. B-West is da man.

Westbrook is an underrated back, although he's starting to get his dues.

[IphoneTony]

For those of you that know me on here.... GIANTS BABY SUPERBOWL CHAMPS....

WEEK 1 WIN

[Tex]

The Raiders looked crappy again. Great tandem in RBs they have, though. McFadden is going to be a BEAST in the NFL (just like Peterson is becoming a BEAST). Russell looked horrible...didn't throw a pick, which is good.

Jay Cutler looked awesome for the Broncos. Their rookie WR was NAILS as well. I am picking him up in both my FF leagues today, for sure.

Aaron Rodgers looked solid for GB last night. He will fit in just fine at GB. Tavaris Jackson looked not so good, but was very mobile last night. He had the good presence to get the yards they needed when they need them. But, he didn't really air out the ball much. AD AP looked amazing, and while I used to hate the guy as a Sooner, he is an amazing guy on the field.

[MileHighRob]

Shanahan is really opening up the play book for the Broncos' O this season. I don't expect them to even try to get the yardage on the ground. Cutler to Brandon Marshall, Eddie Royal, Brandon Stokley or Tony Sheffler is going to give some defenses fits this year.

Jamarcus Russell is, well, Jamarcus Russell. I was actually hoping he was going to show something last night. I agree McFadden is eventually going to be a beast but I don't expect him to have anything near the rookie season that Peterson had last year.

[miggs1310]

For those of you that know me on here.... GIANTS BABY SUPERBOWL CHAMPS....

WEEK 1 WIN


Yeah, they looked great........ :tounge:

worst qb and team to ever win a superbowl

Hint: Read between the lines...:2cool:

[MileHighRob]

Yeah, they looked great........ :tounge:

worst qb and team to ever win a superbowl

Hint: Read between the lines...:2cool:

If I remember correctly they knocked the cowgirls out of the divisional playoff round last year.

[Ramesh]

If I remember correctly they knocked the cowgirls out of the divisional playoff round last year.

Dude - Giants got LUCKY last year. Their front 4 was a huge part of it. You can't honestly say Eli has been consistent ever. He showed up for what, 4 games? If they were in the AFC, they wouldn't have even made the playoffs.

[miggs1310]

If I remember correctly they knocked the cowgirls out of the divisional playoff round last year.


Yep, they owe Patrick Crayton a super bowl ring.....

[aggieman]

Yep, they owe Patrick Crayton a super bowl ring.....

yes I agree I have been dogging Crayton hard on the various Cowboys blogs since that game. 2 sure TD passes dropped. People can call Romo a choke artist all they want, but Romo did what he had to in that game. Crayton was the choke artist there. Now the Seattle game the year before, yeah, all Romo.

However, Crayton has tons of potential. He really impressed me against Cleveland. Still, instead of trading him for a bag of peanuts, I'll only move up to trading him for one of those $7 16oz plastic Miller Lite bottles at Texas Stadium.

[aggieman]

by the way, why is a Saints fan calling the Cowboys cowgirls? They are still the 'Aints. When was the last time they were relevant? Oh yeah! Never! One good season in the last 20 years does not make them anything. I think they are more like last years team than the one that made the playoffs and rode the emotions of Katrina the year before. Yes a great story, but they are an average team when matched up against the Cowboys, Eagles, Giants, or Bears.

Agreed they plucked a great coach from the Cowboys staff but they haven't done anything and they will falter again this year in a way that would make the Jeff Blake/Aaron Brooks teams of the past proud.

[MileHighRob]

But the whole fact that you guys are missing is they freakin' won the whole thing and our team(s) didn't. They went out on the road and beat every team they faced throughout the playoffs... even your Bucs and Cowboys.

[MileHighRob]

by the way, why is a Saints fan calling the Cowboys cowgirls? They are still the 'Aints. When was the last time they were relevant? Oh yeah! Never! One good season in the last 20 years does not make them anything. I think they are more like last years team than the one that made the playoffs and rode the emotions of Katrina the year before. Yes a great story, but they are an average team when matched up against the Cowboys, Eagles, Giants, or Bears.

Agreed they plucked a great coach from the Cowboys staff but they haven't done anything and they will falter again this year in a way that would make the Jeff Blake/Aaron Brooks teams of the past proud.
Tell me one thing... When the last time the Cowboys beat the Saints???

Go look that one up for yourself because you obviously don't know the Saints have owned the Cowboys too!!!

Do I need to remind you of the last 42-17 spanking we handed you on the road on nat'l television the last time we met?

You've go much further back in history to find a Cowboys win over the Saints and their wins have never been that lopsided!!

[aggieman]

Tell me one thing... When the last time the Cowboys beat the Saints???

Go look that one up for yourself because you obviously don't know the Saints have owned the Cowboys too!!!

Do I need to remind you of the last 42-17 spanking we handed you on the road on nat'l television the last time we met?

You've go much further back in history to find a Cowboys win over the Saints and their wins have never been that lopsided!!

we don't play them every year, and I recall being at a game that we beat them in, I don't remember when it was. The Cowboys sucked from 98-05 I'll give you that. I wouldn't gloat too much about beating the Cowboys in those years. It's kind of like our baseball team. The Rangers suck and they have owned Seattle for the past two years. Who cares, when a bad team beats a bad team, does it matter who owns who? The win in 06 was a great story indeed. That team rode an emotional wave and everyone in America was pulling for them. It was one game. Just like the Bears whipping of Indy last night. Everyone knows the Bears are not better than Indy. The Cowboys were not all that strong on defense then and Romo was just getting his feet wet as a starter. It was T.O's first season and we were still sticking with Julius Jones for whatever reason. This Cowboys teams is drastically improved while the Saints are for the most part the same team. Brees is awesome, Colston/Henderson/Bush are very talented, and the defense is decent. It doesn't change the fact that the Saints have really done nothing. they have a decent team this year but they are not even close to Dallas, Philly or the Giants. They also don't have 5 Lombardi trophies.

[MileHighRob]

For the record the last 10 meetings going all the way back to 1988 the Saints are 7-3 head-to-head against the Cowboys.

I would say we've owned the Cowboys over the last 20 years.

Lombardi trophies or not... you've been owned by the Aints - Period!

[aggieman]

For the record the last 10 meetings going all the way back to 1988 the Saints are 7-3 head-to-head against the Cowboys.

I would say we've owned the Cowboys over the last 20 years.

Lombardi trophies or not... you've been owned by the Aints - Period!

except for the super bowl years :tounge:

I've completely washed 98-2004 from my memory. My high school could have beat the 88 and 89 teams Dallas fielded. The same as during the Quincy Carter era. The win in 06 was over a quality Dallas squad and you can't take that away from the Saints.

BTW, Colston is out 4-6 weeks. just read on ESPN. That sucks.

[MileHighRob]

Yeah I know about Colston. Although he's hard to replace, fortunately it is the one position in which we have a lot of depth. Hopefully our #1 pick (Meachem) from last years' draft will step it up. He looked unstoppable during preseason.

[aggieman]

Yeah I know about Colston. Although he's hard to replace, fortunately it is the one position in which we have a lot of depth. Hopefully our #1 pick (Meachem) from last years' draft will step it up. He looked unstoppable during preseason.

do they still have Terrance Copper? I liked him while he was here in Dallas.

[MileHighRob]

Yeah Copper is solid. He's made some clutch catches over the past couple seasons.

I think we'll see a lot more of Patten, Henderson, Moore and Meachem and some 2-3 TE sets. It looks like the Shockey acquisition just became a lot more valuable especially in the red zone.

[Ramesh]

Henderson is freakin' quick. I keep waiting for him to mature as a receiver. When he does, he'll be even more dangerous.

Giants thing - yes, they beat our teams. I get that. My point is they are overrated. They don't have a very explosive team, and they weren't dominant at all. I feel cheated having the Giants win. Don't get me wrong though, I'm glad they won and not the stupid Patriots.

[MileHighRob]

Ramesh - How are you feeling about Brian Griese starting this weekend over Garcia?

[Ramesh]

Ramesh - How are you feeling about Brian Griese starting this weekend over Garcia?
I feel he gives the Bucs a better chance to win. Garcia's rusty from no preseason. I've always like Griese. I think he has a good arm. He's afraid to get hit though; if he manned up, he'd be really good, imo.

[aggieman]

man Kurt Warner is rolling today. I guess my qb situation isn't as bad as I thought. 2 weeks in and he is looking like a solid waiver wire pick up. And if Carson palmer keeps playing like crap I may just try to ride the whole season out with Warner.

[Ramesh]

man Kurt Warner is rolling today. I guess my qb situation isn't as bad as I thought. 2 weeks in and he is looking like a solid waiver wire pick up. And if Carson palmer keeps playing like crap I may just try to ride the whole season out with Warner.
Man, even w/Aaron Rodgers I lost today.

[aggieman]

Man, even w/Aaron Rodgers I lost today.

I didnt pay for the live scoring option but im assuming with the day that warner, burress, and portis had i am in decent shape.

What positions are you weak at ramesh? If you need a rb i dumped selvin young a couple days ago. The way denver is playing on offense that might be a solid pickup.

[Ramesh]

You're winning 146-81. I might look into S.Y. I have both Ronnie and Ricky, but they aren't doing so hot....

[aggieman]

You're winning 146-81. I might look into S.Y. I have both Ronnie and Ricky, but they aren't doing so hot....

I think you'll be alright at RB with if the Jones brothers keep playing the way they are. Interesting stat lines for the season for them both:

Julius: 172 yds rushing, 1 TD
Thomas: 171 yds rushing, 1TD

My team may turn out to be alright even though I missed the draft. I've kinda put together a rag tag team out of waiver pickups but it seems to be coming together. I'd still like another option at QB however as Palmer seems to have gone to crap and I don't think Warner will stay healthy the whole season, but while he is healthy he should put up good numbers with Boldin and Fitzgerald to throw to.

[aggieman]

http://imagecache2.allposters.com/images/pic/PHO/fb_AAHM172_8x10%7ETerrell-Owens-Posters.jpg

[Ramesh]

http://imagecache2.allposters.com/images/pic/pho/fb_aahm172_8x10%7eterrell-owens-posters.jpg

lmao. .

[Youngbinks]

Pretty sweet move by DeSean Jackson...

[aggieman]

Pretty sweet move by DeSean Jackson...

the one where he threw the ball back before crossing the goal line? lol

[Youngbinks]

the one where he threw the ball back before crossing the goal line? lol

Haha yup. I was in a bar and all the Eagles fans started to celebrate and I just told them all to wait a minute. They weren't too happy.

[aggieman]

Haha yup. I was in a bar and all the Eagles fans started to celebrate and I just told them all to wait a minute. They weren't too happy.
lucky for them it just delayed the score for one play.
unlucky for them they were playing the cowboys :2cool:

the eagles are probably the 2nd best team in the league. I'm convinced after tonight they are a very good team. The NFC East with the Cowboys, Eagles, and Giants is a beast again this year. Just like the old days! If the Redskins come along it will really be like the old days.

[Ramesh]

Awesome game. One of the best I've seen.

[free2rhyme590]

how bout dem cowboys!!! that was a great game between philly and dallas!!
38-41!!! cowboys had me on my toes a couple times there but it was great...

[Youngbinks]

I agree that it was one of the best games I've seen in a while. Lots of turmoil and issues on both teams but both still performed very well. Romo's double fumble was pretty funny...

[free2rhyme590]

I agree that it was one of the best games I've seen in a while. Lots of turmoil and issues on both teams but both still performed very well. Romo's double fumble was pretty funny...

i know! oh gosh that was horrible! i couldnt believe it! i was yelling at the tv screen the whole time... but he had some good passing plays... but wow that play with felix jones on the kick-off return was the highlight!!! he doesnt play like a rookie

[psylichon]

"I'll get you next time, Gadget.... NEXT TIIIIIIIIIME!"

[Youngbinks]

Oh Doctor Claw. Classic cartoons before they were desecrated by current creators.

[Tex]

What a game. I a proud of how well the Eagles played. Both teams went balls to the wall, and put on one of the best NFL shows I have seen in years. This is going to be a game that is talked about all season. Philly and Dallas each made their claims that they are the 2 best offesnive teams out there. Both defenses are typically stout, b ut last night was an offensive showcase of the 2 best teams the the NFC, and most likely the NFL. This should make for an interesting rematch in Philly the last game of the season. I hope it is dumping snow, and -5 degrees.

Congrats Cowboys fans. It hurts, but with such an amazing game like that, you can't help but coming out feeling good (win or lose). It is going to be a good year for both of these teams. The final game is going to be a highly anticipated affair (come on McNabb, stay healthy!!!!!! ;) ). Eagles will win the Division.

[harleygold]

Ask yourself this question:

What was he think'n?

http://video.yahoo.com/watch/3513466/9752460

[Tex]

Rookie. I can guarentee he is never going to celebrate ever again this season..Andy Reid and the team won't have it from a Rookie after that.

The one knock on DeSean is that he can be full of himself. Mix that with inexperience, and you get boneheaded plays.

Refs made the right call....it basically acted as "spiking the ball". We got lucky, but I guarantee you everyone in Philly was cursing his name after that....but the dude is WICKED talented, and is by far one of the best draft picks we have had on offense in a while. 2 stragiht weeks of 100+ yards by a rookie WR.....never happened before. That shows he has a very birght future in the NFL.

Cowboys fans, don't forget Leon Letts early celebration pre-TD in thw 93 Super Bowl......stupid things like that have happened before. You can only pray that it doesn't ever happen again....I know DeSean got a smack of reality after that.

But, Eagles got a TD next play (WESTY!!!!!!).

Eagles still one of the best on the field....last nights game proved that for BOTH teams. To close to call. Let the rest of the season play out. I see both teams heading into final game with 2-3 losses max. It will make for one hell of a shoutout in Phillly in late December.

[OJsakila]

...providing Donovan and Westbrook can stay healthy through the WHOLE year. Which they haven't done in some years...

[Tex]

...providing Donovan and Westbrook can stay healthy through the WHOLE year. Which they haven't done in some years...

Agreed. We shall see how this plays out from here. Everything so far points to a very productive season. OUr next loss could come to Pittsburg next week (they are a very good team as well). After that, it could be cruise control if the team is healthy. Reggie Brown and Kevin Curtis should be ready to play in the next 2 weeks. That should add a lot more weapons to our potent offense (Rookie Jackson can not carry this team....great start to his career, but Curtis and Brown are the support we need to complete the WR package....they aren't the best in the league, but they are the other 2 top weapons none-the-less for D-Mac to utilize).

hard pill to swallow when a close game like that comes down to the first major mistake made by your team in the 4th Qtr.....But, like I said, there are a ton of positives that come out of that game, and like D-Mac said, they can only take this as a tool to learn from your mistakes, and improve upon them. That is good news. Both Defenses will improve throughout the year. The next match up in December will not be as much of a shootout, but looks like should be another great matchup.

I love the Fall. ;)

[miggs1310]

What a game. I a proud of how well the Eagles played. Both teams went balls to the wall, and put on one of the best NFL shows I have seen in years. This is going to be a game that is talked about all season. Philly and Dallas each made their claims that they are the 2 best offesnive teams out there. Both defenses are typically stout, b ut last night was an offensive showcase of the 2 best teams the the NFC, and most likely the NFL. This should make for an interesting rematch in Philly the last game of the season. I hope it is dumping snow, and -5 degrees.

Congrats Cowboys fans. It hurts, but with such an amazing game like that, you can't help but coming out feeling good (win or lose). It is going to be a good year for both of these teams. The final game is going to be a highly anticipated affair (come on McNabb, stay healthy!!!!!! ;) ). Eagles will win the Division.


Excellent post, well said.

The only thing I'm gonna say is........Eagles won T.O.P., turnovers, and penalties/yardage. Tony Romo tried his hardest to give the Eagles the game in the first half. The Eagles got a gift pass interference call that put them on the 1 and sparked a 14 point in 14 second sequence that changed the momentum a ton...........and the Eagles still lost

Booyah!!!

[aggieman]

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[Tex]

Excellent post, well said.

The only thing I'm gonna say is........Eagles won T.O.P., turnovers, and penalties/yardage. Tony Romo tried his hardest to give the Eagles the game in the first half. The Eagles got a gift pass interference call that put them on the 1 and sparked a 14 point in 14 second sequence that changed the momentum a ton...........and the Eagles still lost

Booyah!!!

The cowboys also got lucky on several occassions - 2 missed Face Mask calls by a cowboy defender on Westbrook, and a late hit out of bounds that was not called. It went BOTH ways last night.

In the end, you can not say one team deserved more than the other to win. It came down to who made the last mistake....Probability was on the Eagles side until the mishandled handoff to Westy.

It is going to be a great year for both of these clubs, without a doubt.

[miggs1310]

The cowboys also got lucky on several occassions - 2 missed Face Mask calls by a cowboy defender on Westbrook, and a late hit out of bounds that was not called. It went BOTH ways last night.

I respectfully disagree, yes the facemasks happened, NO they don't automatically put you at the 1-yard line changing the flow of the game dramatically. Cowboys were up 14 - 6, and without the BS interference call it's 14 - 9, Cowboys still rolling. Instead, Eagles gained the momentum.

Don't compare facemasks to free touchdowns...



It is going to be a great year for both of these clubs, without a doubt.


I agree 100%, it's gonna be a lot of fun!!!:2cool:

[Tex]

I respectfully disagree, yes the facemasks happened, NO they don't automatically put you at the 1-yard line changing the flow of the game dramatically. Cowboys were up 14 - 6, and without the BS interference call it's 14 - 9, Cowboys still rolling. Instead, Eagles gained the momentum.







:2cool:

I guess it is kinda like last year when Texas was called for offensive pass inteference on a TD reception in the endzone, when it was clearly the A&M defender that had a handful of jersey.....Yeah, I know how that feels.

;)

[Ramesh]

Rob - how about those Saints? :) We were robbed in week 1. Already the 'Aints are back. :D

[MileHighRob]

Rob - how about those Saints? :) We were robbed in week 1. Already the 'Aints are back. :D
Dude you have no clue as you obviously didn't watch either loss the Saints' have taken over the last two weeks.

We gave up a 9 point lead in the 4th quarter to the Skins and beat ourselves here in Denver this past weekend.

Gramatica missed 2 field goals, we didn't convert a two-point after td AND we were stuffed on a 4th and goal... if my math serves me right there's at least 10 points that we failed to capitalize on this past Sunday. We put up over 500 yards offense dude. Denver didn't beat us, we beat ourselves.

But think what you may... before long you'll be cheering for your "second favorite" team (which is a joke, btw) because the Bucs will get implode before long.

It's the NFL bud... it takes talent, some luck and the ability to avoid injuries to be truly successful. It won't happen with just one of those three key elements in play.

There's a couple 3-0 teams that should be 1-2 right now and a few 1-2 teams that could be 3-0.

Fortunately we're not 0-3 like we were last year at this time and we've got four winnable games coming up.

And yes, the league is certainly taking notice of Reggie this year!

[Ramesh]

Dude you have no clue as you obviously didn't watch either loss the Saints' have taken over the last two weeks.

We gave up a 9 point lead in the 4th quarter to the Skins and beat ourselves here in Denver this past weekend.

Gramatica missed 2 field goals, we didn't convert a two-point after td AND we were stuffed on a 4th and goal... if my math serves me right there's at least 10 points that we failed to capitalize on this past Sunday. We put up over 500 yards offense dude. Denver didn't beat us, we beat ourselves.

But think what you may... before long you'll be cheering for your "second favorite" team (which is a joke, btw) because the Bucs will get implode before long.

It's the NFL bud... it takes talent, some luck and the ability to avoid injuries to be truly successful. It won't happen with just one of those three key elements in play.

There's a couple 3-0 teams that should be 1-2 right now and a few 1-2 teams that could be 3-0.

Fortunately we're not 0-3 like we were last year at this time and we've got four winnable games coming up.

And yes, the league is certainly taking notice of Reggie this year!

Whoa dude, settle down. I was just ribbin' ya. I feeeeeel for you Saints fans. We had G-matica, and then he went SOUR right after the Bucs' superbowl. I can't believe he's kicking again for a team.

Bottom line - a win's a win, a loss is a loss.

[MileHighRob]

Whoa dude, settle down. I was just ribbin' ya. I feeeeeel for you Saints fans. We had G-matica, and then he went SOUR right after the Bucs' superbowl. I can't believe he's kicking again for a team.

Bottom line - a win's a win, a loss is a loss.
Well he was actually a breath of fresh air coming in to clean up after Mare last season. Gramatica went 8 of 8 for us but since then he's missed the last two attempts.

I knew once he missed that first one that he was done emotionally.
http://i37.tinypic.com/255rsc8.jpg

[Youngbinks]

How about those Dolphins? Sure Brady wasn't there but that doesn't account for the score Miami put up. At least it gave us something to be proud of.

[MileHighRob]

That was a huge win Phil.

[Youngbinks]

Thank you sir. I know that it isn't the same Patriots as last season but there's no denying that a recovering (and struggling) Miami was able to bring an element of surprise to the table that the Pats weren't able to account for.

[MileHighRob]

Thank you sir. I know that it isn't the same Patriots as last season but there's no denying that a recovering (and struggling) Miami was able to bring an element of surprise to the table that the Pats weren't able to account for.
You're right... and noone, including Parcells, expected Miami to pull off that blowout win even with Brady out.

[miggs1310]

http://static.nfl.com/static/content/catch_all/nfl_image/M_Barber_080921_2_QT.jpg

[aggieman]

Whoa dude, settle down. I was just ribbin' ya. I feeeeeel for you Saints fans. We had G-matica, and then he went SOUR right after the Bucs' superbowl. I can't believe he's kicking again for a team.

Bottom line - a win's a win, a loss is a loss.

hey Gramatica was pretty good a couple seasons ago for the Cowboys. I think he's a pretty good kicker, just a head case like most other kickers.

It's all mental with most of those guys. Just look at Vanderjagt. He went from being one of the top kickers to being out of football in less than 3 games.

[Ramesh]

Just a shout out for the Bucs - 3 and 1. Great start so far. Griese's gotta stop handing the ball over though...

[aggieman]

Just a shout out for the Bucs - 3 and 1. Great start so far. Griese's gotta stop handing the ball over though...

is "Greasy" now the full time starter or is Garcia still hurt?

[Ramesh]

is "Greasy" now the full time starter or is Garcia still hurt?

Starter - for now. Knowing Gruden, that could change at any time.

[MileHighRob]

Congrats Phil on another incredible 'Phins win today. That's both teams from last years' AFC Championship game that have fallen prey to Miami this year... something to be mighty proud of my friend!

[clearwaterphin]

Been a Dolphin fan since 1971 and still have my jacket from the undefeated 1972 season.....Last year was simply terrible and was hard to even wear a dolphins hat in public....

Back to back wins.......been a couple years since we had that so yes...its a huge milestone,LOL

[Napoleon_PhoneApart]

I'm feeling pretty good about my 'Skins so far...

[The Apple]

I know I have spied a few cowboys fans in this thread. What's your take on the "Pac-man" situation????

[psylichon]

Sounds like dude needs new bodyguards. wtf?

[miggs1310]

I know I have spied a few cowboys fans in this thread. What's your take on the "Pac-man" situation????


he's an idiot, but I hope he doesn't get suspended. the cowboys have said "there will be no disciplinary action taken by the team" but the NFL is conducting an investigation. there were no charges filed and no arrests so this will probably blow over soon enough. he is an idiot though....

[The Apple]

I know if I am his bodyguard, I am not happy about my client blindsiding me at the pee-pee recepticle. I am thinking if he is inebriated enough to have lost his ability to use proper judgment, I probably stand a shot at kickin his butt! Believe me, "pac-man" could use 25 good "attitude adjustments"

[The Apple]

he's an idiot, but I hope he doesn't get suspended. the cowboys have said "there will be no disciplinary action taken by the team" but the NFL is conducting an investigation. there were no charges filed and no arrests so this will probably blow over soon enough. he is an idiot though....
I know if I was in the NFL main offices or the Cowboys team offices I would have to do something. If I was an NFL representative I would want him removed from the league permanently. He has had too many incidents. You are an employee of the NFL and lucky enough to make big NFL bucks, grow up and act like someone with common sense. I don't put my job in jeopardy like that and I make piss compared to what he makes. The Cowboys should look to suspend him (so it looks as if they are concerned about their reputation), and hope the NFL does not decide to take the proper action (which would be a permanent release of employment!!)

[miggs1310]

I know if I was in the NFL main offices or the Cowboys team offices I would have to do something. If I was an NFL representative I would want him removed from the league permanently. He has had too many incidents. You are an employee of the NFL and lucky enough to make big NFL bucks, grow up and act like someone with common sense. I don't put my job in jeopardy like that and I make piss compared to what he makes. The Cowboys should look to suspend him (so it looks as if they are concerned about their reputation), and hope the NFL does not decide to take the proper action (which would be a permanent release of employment!!)

You make good points, but it was just a little scuffle. I've been in a few heated, alcohol induced arguments or "scuffles" before and not lost my job over it. Hell, in training camp Flozell Adams ripped a players helmet off and started swinging at people and we all laughed and thought it was cute. It's being overblown because of who he is, but yes, he should know that is going to happen by now and use better judgement in those situations. Supposedly it started as "horseplay" that crossed the line, so the body guard should've known better too.

[The Apple]

You make good points, but it was just a little scuffle. I've been in a few heated, alcohol induced arguments or "scuffles" before and not lost my job over it. Hell, in training camp Flozell Adams ripped a players helmet off and started swinging at people and we all laughed and thought it was cute. It's being overblown because of who he is, but yes, he should know that is going to happen by now and use better judgement in those situations. Supposedly it started as "horseplay" that crossed the line, so the body guard should've known better too.
The first reports made it out that he punched the guy in the back of the head while he was takin' a piss, they scuffled and broke a mirror. It would not be surprising to me to find out that the initial reports were exagerated and "hyped up". The most recent reports make it out to be that they were "playing around" and broke a little onamental trinket. I have no doubts that Jerry Jones has had the "facts" doctored to make it look like it was an inncocent occurance, so his player and his team can avoid a penalty. Nobody except for the involved parties knows what exactly happpened, and I am sure what actually happened will never be known. Jerry Jones has swept the incident under his million dollar rug and will stand on it until everyone loses interest. What we do know for sure is that "pac-man" has a bad track record. It is very possible that it was an inncocent horseplay incident, but it is also possible that the original report was true and it got swept under the rug.

One thing is for certain. The people in the Titans organization are happy to be rid of him!!! LOL

[miggs1310]

The first reports made it out that he punched the guy in the back of the head while he was takin' a piss, they scuffled and broke a mirror. It would not be surprising to me to find out that the initial reports were exagerated and "hyped up". The most recent reports make it out to be that they were "playing around" and broke a little onamental trinket. I have no doubts that Jerry Jones has had the "facts" doctored to make it look like it was an inncocent occurance, so his player and his team can avoid a penalty. Nobody except for the involved parties knows what exactly happpened, and I am sure what actually happened will never be known. Jerry Jones has swept the incident under his million dollar rug and will stand on it until everyone loses interest. What we do know for sure is that "pac-man" has a bad track record. It is very possible that it was an inncocent horseplay incident, but it is also possible that the original report was true and it got swept under the rug.

One thing is for certain. The people in the Titans organization are happy to be rid of him!!! LOL


hahaha, this isn't the first time Jerry has had to do that, police reports always seem to change when they have to do with the cowboys LOL!!!

that's why I love him though, dedicated to winning!!!