Sarah Palin

[iCafe]

http://images.newsmax.com/ap/7eb3c9da-22ae-4c14-b79f-5c9b239cc291.jpg

She must be a good cook!

[Lincoln]

The McCain campaign did a good job of bringing the surprise right after Obama's speech.

Nonetheless... Obama's speech was great.

[Ramesh]

The McCain campaign did a good job of bringing the surprise right after Obama's speech.

Nonetheless... Obama's speech was great.
Obama does seem to be pretty popular with the younger crowd I'm finding....

[Hondamaker]

That's all Obama does is give a good speech. And Sarah Palin is hotfor an older woman!

[Tex]

That's all Obama does is give a good speech. And Sarah Palin is hotfor an older woman!

You are right on all front's. I want her to slowly let down her hair, and take off those glasses......*Rowr*. I bet she is a hell-cat........

[iCafe]

Bush messed up our economy and has us in a pointless war.
we need change. not 4 years of the same crap.

[Tex]

Bush messed up our economy and has us in a pointless war.
we need change. not 4 years of the same crap.

Palin has nothing to do with Bush, honestly. Bush is a tool, yes, that is quite clear. Don't change the subject. The subject is the cougar in the picture. Discuss. :2cool: ha.

[psylichon]

That's all Obama does is give a good speech. And Sarah Palin is hotfor an older woman!

I agree, he is a great speaker. But to limit his ability to that alone seems, in my mind, just a bit dismissive of the man.

Experience is great, but Washington experience carries a lot of baggage. I'm lookin' for a new guy this time around. I think he'll do just fine.

Biden was a great pick, too... it seems even the right and left can agree on that.

But ya gotta wonder about McCain's pick. Do you really want this woman a heartbeat away from running our country? That phrase carries increased urgency given McCain's age. It really seems a political decision rather than one of sound judgement for the best of the country.

Nothing against her, but I'll be she's as surprised about all this as the rest of us are:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J9pnzQ96kWA

[Hondamaker]

You are right on all front's. I want her to slowly let down her hair, and take off those glasses......*Rowr*. I bet she is a hell-cat........
Yeeeaaayyyyy, booyyyyyyy!

[psylichon]

Hillary has brought us so far

:D

[iCafe]

Palin has nothing to do with Bush, honestly. Bush is a tool, yes, that is quite clear. Don't change the subject. The subject is the cougar in the picture. Discuss. :2cool: ha.

A poor record: Her only political experience has been a few years as mayor of a small town in Alaska and less than two years as governor of that state. Her record wasn’t so great: the small town she left behind is now in financial ruin.

She has no experience with national level politics. At the time of this posting, many of her views on national policy issues were unknown simply because she is so inexperienced that she hasn’t even made public statements about them. Presidential history scholars believe she may be “the most inexperienced person on a major party ticket in modern history.”

She has no foreign policy experience. None.

Iraq War? Our country is in the midst of a war, and Palin’s son is going to fight in that war. However, Salon.com reports that she hasn’t even given much thought to the Iraq War, and has no clear opinions about it. Great.

She is a creationist, and she wants “creation science” to be taught in public schools.

She doesn’t believe in man-made global warming. Maybe that’s why she supports drilling in the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge?

Not only does she think the government should be telling people who they can and cannot marry, she also thinks that same sex couples should be denied benefits given to straight couples.

Palin has been accused of abusing her power as Alaska governor to try to get her ex-brother-in-law fired as a state trooper. An investigation is underway.

She has messed up views on wildlife protection. Enivornmentalists are appalled by her support of a $150-per-wolf bounty program. She’s also supported the use of government money to educate people about how great it is to shoot bears and wolves, and she doesn’t want the polar bear to make it onto the endangered species list.

Even if they aren’t true, rumors about her pretending to be pregnant to cover up her teenage daughter’s accidental pregnancy are not going to help her image.

Ninja editing: Her Wikipedia entry needed to be cleaned up before the public announcement that she was McCain’s VP pick.

She has no clue about the role of the Vice President.

It is quite clear she was chosen just because of her gender (most Republicans have never even heard of her), and she’s being used as a trick by the McCain campaign to gain some of Hillary Clinton’s supporters.

[Tex]

Argue those points all you want...it won't matter...she isn't going to be the V.P., anyway. It was clear from the start that she is an image, with no substance behind her. I was just trying to lighten up the thread. Even though the #s are close now, there is no chance in hell McCain wins the election (barring some catastophe with the Obama campaign, which I highly doubt).

Ease up, if you are an Obama-lover, you have nothing to worry about.

[psylichon]

Oh I wish I shared your confidence, Tex. It's not so cut and dry in this country.

[eye-Fone]

Biden was a great pick, too...
Ha! Obama's slogan is all about "change", right?

Here's what I heard on TV the other night about Biden (from a comedian)... "Nothing says change like a guy who's been in the Senate for 35 years!" LOL!!


:tounge:

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[psylichon]

Yeah, but one of the biggest complaints against Obama was lack of experience. So in that respect alone, Biden was a smart pick. Hey, compared to McCain's pick, Dan Quayle would look like a safe bet right now.

[psylichon]

By the way, we're doing great so far keeping this civil. Let's keep it up... it's fun. EIC can buck the trend of political discourse on the internet, I feel it in my bones...

[Tex]

Oh I wish I shared your confidence, Tex. It's not so cut and dry in this country.

You'll be fine. I don't trust the guy and his message, but I am pretty sure he is set. If the Dems blow this, it can go down as one of the worst campaigns ever. The white house is theirs for the taking, they just need to finish and execute properly. That is what I am waiting to see, in order for the to get my vote.

I am sure as hell not voting for McCain, but I am not sure if I can vote for Barrack or not...I will see what he does and says in the coming weeks before I make my final decision about wether to go independent, or cast my vote for him. I have my reasons, and all are valid. Rhetoric is all good, and "change" is a wonderful idea, but I have yet to get a clear understanding about what he thinks will be the proper avenue for the "change" he keeps hammering on (I have heard them all, so you don't need to try to sell me b/c up to this point, I still do not think he has been clear enough on the "change" issue). "Hope" is an awesome thing to have, but he has to give me a clearer picture than he has. He has not convinced me to this point. I don't trust politicians, and he really is not different...he just plays the game with more "umph" than most. A good speaker is DEFINITELY a plus over what we have to deal with currently, I agree. He has been very vague up to this point on several topics of interest for me, but I hope as the election draws near, he will start answer questions more clearly and being more specific as the debates draw on....and, it would be nice to not see the negative ads for a change in an election (that is a distant request).

Not knocking the dude, but I believe I have every right to not be sold up to this point. I do not believe that I should have to settle for only 2-parties. Realistically, there isn't much difference b/w the 2 sides when you get to the meat and bones of it all. They are both tied to special interest groups, and their parties politics, which makes all this so old and bland. It has become a popularity contest almost, now. Change is needed for sure, especially in the parties themselves. The Dems have also severely disappointed me in Congress since they took control (Republicans were just as much of a Do-Nothing-Congress as well. It is sad when both sides are both not getting the job done).

I hope to see economic improvement, and domestic issues addressed in the coming years. I hope for many things. We shall see how this plays out.

[cdinca]

By the way, we're doing great so far keeping this civil. Let's keep it up... it's fun. EIC can buck the trend of political discourse on the internet, I feel it in my bones...

I am also very impressed that you guys aren't taking each other's bait. I don't have that kind of self control. I had to tell my friend of 20 years not to talk to me until Christmas. :frown:

[Caliphone]

She is a fine choice. As Rush put it, "Guns, babies, & Jesus, hot damn!"

[Youngbinks]

Have we not noticed what has happened to the economy in the two years since the democrats took control of the House?


At any rate, she certainly is a VPilf.

[psylichon]

We have. We just didn't place the sole blame on House dems. Like Tex said, they've basically done nothing.

Now, there's this really expensive war going on...

[Youngbinks]

They have done nothing. That's the problem. They won't do anything of course at this point, because, sadly, they know that any action on their part will only reflect positively on the Republican side.

[psylichon]

I hate conspiracy theories


















But this one is pretty fun:

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/8/30/121350/137

[Youngbinks]

I liked the one with Mel Gibson and Julia Roberts too though.








But for reals, interesting.

[monkeysrock0622]

She looks like she should be Tina Faye's hot older sister lol.

That is my great contribution to the thread :smile:

[Ramesh]

IMO - Obama has a chance to win on pure popularity. I have yet to hear him answer a question in a direct manner. McCain has a chance to win on experience.

I was a Obama supporter, but the more I listen to his "speeches of change" I pretty much jumped ship.

Did anyone happen to see the civil forum held at Saddleback a few weeks ago? If so, what did you think?

[Lincoln]

Ia agree that Obama's "change" can get tiring. Every speech that he or any supporter of his makes has to be centered around changing the country. But at the same time, McCain's "he doesn't have enough experience" get tiring as well. Just because he's 47 does not mean has any less experience than McCain.

By the way, great thread. It's nice to be able to have a political discussion with immediately locking it.

[FlwrPwer]

Just because he's 47 does not mean has any less experience than McCain.



His experience has nothing to do with his age, but rather the amount of time he has been in Washington. If I'm not mistake, if he gets elected he'll have only been a senator for one term. Compared to past presidents, this is not a lot of experience.

As for me, I'm registered independent and can honestly say that at this point, I agree with Tex. I don't really see Obama bringing change, but I do not want to vote for McCain either.

I've heard conflicting numbers about what Obama thinks is middle class vs. upper class, but one of the numbers I have heard puts me clearly in upper class, which I find unbelievable as I truly live paycheck to paycheck to survive costs of living here in NY. If this number is true, that means I'm an upper-class white woman. Which, in Obama terms, means a lot more taxes for me. It also means he's not going to do anything for me if he's in office. Of course, if McCain wins, I'm clearly middle class and he won't do anything for me if he's in office.

And people can spew about how it is for the country and all that stuff, but what it comes down to is politics is a very personal thing. You vote for the person you think will help you, and the country, the most. At this point, I'm not sure either candidate will really benefit me in the long run...or the country for that matter.

I think the idea of "change" is nice, but I don't think it's going to happen in the next four years.

[OJsakila]

They have done nothing. That's the problem. They won't do anything of course at this point, because, sadly, they know that any action on their part will only reflect positively on the Republican side.


That's pretty close to the STOOOPIDEST thing I've ever heard! So the senate and congress won't do anything because it will look good for republicans? Is that what you said? Use your brain, please. If you really believe that you're either 14 or a complete idiot.

I've been monitoring this thread and I just can't bite my toungue anymore. Prepare for this thread to be locked.

[chris]

That's pretty close to the STOOOPIDEST thing I've ever heard! So the senate and congress won't do anything because it will look good for republicans? Is that what you said? Use your brain, please. If you really believe that you're either 14 or a complete idiot.

I've been monitoring this thread and I just can't bite my toungue anymore. Prepare for this thread to be locked.


You need to start acting appropriately here at EIC. Continued name calling and insults will result in a not so great result.

Discussion on politics, religion, et all are probably not the best topics for an iPhone forum. Thread locked.