I hate you 2.0!!!!

[NickT916]

it crashes! Has bugs! Makes iPhone slower!! I restored, reinstalled still garbage.. Heck I'm typing this right now on my iPhone and everytime I hit a letter the page jumps up and down!! I don't see how they got 2.0 I mean common 1.1.4 is same thing!! 2.0 it's more like 1.1.4.5!!! You can save a picture now and select .com .net .org from same button wow!!! Haha

App store doesn't make it 2.0!!! Someone is missing steps...

1.4
1.5
1.6
1.7
1.8
1.9

All those could have gotten copy paste, java, adobe,3.0mp+ camera, mms sendreceive pics, pause YouTube while going back to home screen, turn off pop up txt, more gay ring tones, heck 2.0 is like 5 years ahead of schedule but yet 5 years behind... Upgrading from 1.1.3 to 1.1.4 was was more beneficial than this hype.

Obviously apple figured they can change the cover, say it's 2.0 to sound more advanced and put a 3G thing in that most phones already have but yet charge more and make people think they are buying an iPhone 2!!! LOL

[NickT916]

I'm going back to 1.1.4!!!! Hmm I wonder if you can make 3G a 1.1.4 .....

[styfle]

well you forgot 1.2 lol
they went from 1.1.4 and they should have gone to 1.1.5 1.1.6 1.1.7 etc

[lman]

i guess i'm lucky, i haven't had any of these issues with speed and crashing

[Saverino]

i guess i'm lucky, i haven't had any of these issues with speed and crashing

:gasp:
You are lucky...

[ChrisTaylor05]

Yeah 2.0 blows... I honestly think its a planned out move by Apple & ATT. I hate to sound like a conspiracy theorist or anything but look at it this way.

We have the new 2.0 Software that is specifically designated for the first gen iPhone. If Apple is trying to fufill their contract with ATT by giving them a certain number of 3G iPhone users for the money ATT is paying Apple for exclusivity (This is evident by the move to make sure users are unable to take unactivated 3G iPhones out of the store so that unlocking does not occur.) So likely they planned to get all us millions of V1 users to migrate over to 3G... I find it convinent that V1 iPhones are having all of these problems that (I will list my own personal problems below.) will force us to buy 3G iPhones. Im sure Apple knows that they built a great phone and most of us users will find it difficult to go to anything other than an iPhone because we are used to it.

So now this is where most of us V1 users stand. We have a 1 year product warranty for a phone that will get phased out for a new phone around the same time the following year. Our phones "Malfunction" and we are unable to get our new V1 from our OEM Warranty and we are stuck no less to either buy a 3G iPhone because V1s are no longer produced or get a random suck phone which is unlikely because we are used to an advanced interface. At this point in my life I need my iPhone for my life cause I need to use Maps, Safari, Mail and a few other features this phone has and no other phone has.

I just think its a pretty big coincidence that right when 3G comes out V1s start to fail on the users. If I walk into an Apple or an ATT store expecting to get my phone fixed which im sure will not happen unless I pay a hefty fee and send my phone away. I will sadly be disapointed because Apple and ATT have played us consumers and forced us to play their little for profit game. Hopefully Apple has a heart and decides to give us V1 users some better software the second go-round. If yall see some kind of 3G only update expect for the problems to get worse. Here are my current V1 problems....

1st Gen 4g iPhone on 2.0 OEM software...

- My phone when in sleep mode will freeze in place for long periods of time and when I unlock it updates the time and I receive all txts and missed calls while the phone was locked or in sleep.

- Edge and Cellular service is terrible now and I no longer get service in places where I was previously able to from software updates 1.1.4 and Pre-Release 2.0. I also get that little [o] box instead of the [E] box frequently.

- Programs are now much slower than on 1.1.4 and hang longer and crash frequently... and this is everything that is important... Phone, SMS, Mail, Safari, iPod, AIM, Clock, Voicemail.

- When attempting to make calls sometimes my handset mic and speakers will not allow me to talk on the phone but speaker phone and head phones work fine.

and thats all I've experienced sofar... What do yall think... Coincidence? Probably not... and yes I'm an Apple lover and yes I love my iPhone I just think im being betrayed thats all.

[OJsakila]

zzzzzzzzzz..

[YvilKittyInSpace]

i guess i'm lucky, i haven't had any of these issues with speed and crashing

I must be lucky as well.

[Lincoln]

They don't have to go from 1.1.4 to 1.1.5 to 1.1.6, etc, until they reach 2.0. And exactly how do you expect a software update to add a 3-megapixel camera? Firmware updates upgrade the software, not the hardware.

[coop1701]

I must be lucky as well.

Me too... I have had no issues on 2.0. I'm happy with a lot of the changed they made.

The only problem I've had is my Ringtone volume keeps changing. I'll set it at 100 percent. Check it a hour later and it's at about 55 percent. No idea why it keeps changing.

[Eragon]

Yeah 2.0 blows... I honestly think its a planned out move by Apple & ATT. I hate to sound like a conspiracy theorist or anything but look at it this way.

We have the new 2.0 Software that is specifically designated for the first gen iPhone. If Apple is trying to fufill their contract with ATT by giving them a certain number of 3G iPhone users for the money ATT is paying Apple for exclusivity (This is evident by the move to make sure users are unable to take unactivated 3G iPhones out of the store so that unlocking does not occur.) So likely they planned to get all us millions of V1 users to migrate over to 3G... I find it convinent that V1 iPhones are having all of these problems that (I will list my own personal problems below.) will force us to buy 3G iPhones. Im sure Apple knows that they built a great phone and most of us users will find it difficult to go to anything other than an iPhone because we are used to it.

So now this is where most of us V1 users stand. We have a 1 year product warranty for a phone that will get phased out for a new phone around the same time the following year. Our phones "Malfunction" and we are unable to get our new V1 from our OEM Warranty and we are stuck no less to either buy a 3G iPhone because V1s are no longer produced or get a random suck phone which is unlikely because we are used to an advanced interface. At this point in my life I need my iPhone for my life cause I need to use Maps, Safari, Mail and a few other features this phone has and no other phone has.

I just think its a pretty big coincidence that right when 3G comes out V1s start to fail on the users. If I walk into an Apple or an ATT store expecting to get my phone fixed which im sure will not happen unless I pay a hefty fee and send my phone away. I will sadly be disapointed because Apple and ATT have played us consumers and forced us to play their little for profit game. Hopefully Apple has a heart and decides to give us V1 users some better software the second go-round. If yall see some kind of 3G only update expect for the problems to get worse. Here are my current V1 problems....

1st Gen 4g iPhone on 2.0 OEM software...

- My phone when in sleep mode will freeze in place for long periods of time and when I unlock it updates the time and I receive all txts and missed calls while the phone was locked or in sleep.

- Edge and Cellular service is terrible now and I no longer get service in places where I was previously able to from software updates 1.1.4 and Pre-Release 2.0. I also get that little [o] box instead of the [E] box frequently.

- Programs are now much slower than on 1.1.4 and hang longer and crash frequently... and this is everything that is important... Phone, SMS, Mail, Safari, iPod, AIM, Clock, Voicemail.

- When attempting to make calls sometimes my handset mic and speakers will not allow me to talk on the phone but speaker phone and head phones work fine.

and thats all I've experienced sofar... What do yall think... Coincidence? Probably not... and yes I'm an Apple lover and yes I love my iPhone I just think im being betrayed thats all.

Chris,

I think you make a number of good points. You have to remember, however, that Apple views the iPhone 3G as it does any other Apple platform: loyalty is to the here and now. Apple products are made to last. Newer products are continuously brought to market.

2.0 to the iPhone V1 strikes me in the same way as Leopard 10.5 is to the Power PC Macs. Apple will let us stretch the product life of our purchases only so far. At some point, Apple has to pull chocks and cut off earlier hardware incarnations.

There is nothing keeping you from enjoying 1.1.4, jailbroken and unlocked. If 2.0 does not function well on your device, downgrade.

Good luck. :smile:

[llrickman]

i am having all the issues listed here plus when i click camera. It tells me "camera wants to use your current location", programs crash all the time, my RT volume changes on its own. Sometimes it take 5 minutes to type one fricken word in a text message cuz it locks/slows down

ive had it tell me "safari wants to use your current location"

2.0 sucks big time

plus it takes almost an hour to sync my 4GB ??? wtf

[ChrisTaylor05]

Chris,

I think you make a number of good points. You have to remember, however, that Apple views the iPhone 3G as it does any other Apple platform: loyalty is to the here and now. Apple products are made to last. Newer products are continuously brought to market.

2.0 to the iPhone V1 strikes me in the same way as Leopard 10.5 is to the Power PC Macs. Apple will let us stretch the product life of our purchases only so far. At some point, Apple has to pull chocks and cut off earlier hardware incarnations.

There is nothing keeping you from enjoying 1.1.4, jailbroken and unlocked. If 2.0 does not function well on your device, downgrade.

Good luck. :smile:

Thanks Eragon,

Yeah I agree they view it as the same as other platforms... technologically and business wise I think thats a smart move. Im just alittle upset as a consumer thats all. Im bummed that I was a 1st day iPhone adopter got screwed when they did the price drop to make more money but I didnt complain. Now a die hard Apple and iPhone fan im just wondering how far Apple is willing to go to make a quick buck. Im already paying 120$ a month for my plan and while I dont mind paying that high a price for the value its a great deal. I just dont like the fact that most of us who were satisfied with the V1 are now in a stranglehold and will be forced to buy a 3G and pay more for something I wont need.

I thought about downgrading but herin lies the problem. I payed for a product that Stevie boy said would last for years in continuous software updates so sticking around on 1.1.4 would basically be screwing myself out of what I payed for in the first place: Great Hardware with an Updatable GUI that would keep up with newer produced Hardware phones. Im just hoping that this does not keep up or else whats gonna happen next year lol You made a cut here and got something slightly better but end up paying more. Whats to stop this from happening every year and continuously getting worse.... Wrap this around your brain lol... July 11th 2010 iPhone V4 with a 3.5mp Camera with Flash, Broadband Internet Speeds, Safari with Flash, Cut and Paste, MMS Support, Video Chat, 32g base model 64g upgraded with 9 Diffrent colors, and all for the low low price of $199 Voice Plans Start at 89$ a month and Media Net is 40$ a month no txt but for 200 txts 5$ more and 20$ for unlimited text. So after its all said and done your paying damn close to 200$ for a cellphone with crappy service but it looks cool and is a nice piece of hardware lol... Think about it...

[Eragon]

I really feel your pain. I bought a 20" iMac two months prior to its refresh. I could have waited for the new machine, but I decided I needed it then. I really wanted a Mac Pro so I could easily switch out components as they aged or failed. Fast forwarding to today, my iMac is still competitive. I have it loaded out with 10.5.4, maxed out on RAM, etc. I'm really glad I didn't think with the wrong brain. :wink:

I am, gulp, old enough to remember the PC switchover from MS DOS to Windows 3.1. My PC was immediately put out to pasture, even though I had recently spent a good deal on the system. I was extremely aggravated, and promised myself I would never let that happen to me again.

Unless you are made of money, you'll never be able to keep up with the latest and greatest. Milk out your current device as long as you can. Phone. iPod. Mail. And so forth. If there is something you have a burning need to run, but can't use yor existing device, you may be looking at needing to upgrade.

Think about what is really important about your use of the iPhone and go from there. I didn't need to upgrade from V1 8GB to V2 16GB. I let my other brain do the thinking this time. :tounge:

[nealh]

2.0 to the iPhone V1 strikes me in the same way as Leopard 10.5 is to the Power PC Macs. Apple will let us stretch the product life of our purchases only so far. At some point, Apple has to pull chocks and cut off earlier hardware incarnations.


WTF..so those of us who bought an iPhone in the spring not knowing Apple had a new thing on the way(4 mo later) are trying to stretch our hardware....IMHO a real stupid idea and makes no business sense at all

A 1 yr product cycle and then no support or piss/poor support to force an upgrade on a new user

No loyalty there..screw them if you are correct, the iPhone is nice but far from perfect ...there are other choices out there

I am not a fanboy but will call a spade a spade....

[ryfone]

can't say i'm too happy with 2.0 either, however, phonesaber makes it all better... ;)

[ChrisTaylor05]

I really feel your pain. I bought a 20" iMac two months prior to its refresh. I could have waited for the new machine, but I decided I needed it then. I really wanted a Mac Pro so I could easily switch out components as they aged or failed. Fast forwarding to today, my iMac is still competitive. I have it loaded out with 10.5.4, maxed out on RAM, etc. I'm really glad I didn't think with the wrong brain. :wink:

I am, gulp, old enough to remember the PC switchover from MS DOS to Windows 3.1. My PC was immediately put out to pasture, even though I had recently spent a good deal on the system. I was extremely aggravated, and promised myself I would never let that happen to me again.

Unless you are made of money, you'll never be able to keep up with the latest and greatest. Milk out your current device as long as you can. Phone. iPod. Mail. And so forth. If there is something you have a burning need to run, but can't use yor existing device, you may be looking at needing to upgrade.

Think about what is really important about your use of the iPhone and go from there. I didn't need to upgrade from V1 8GB to V2 16GB. I let my other brain do the thinking this time. :tounge:

Whew man I would have totally exploded if I had to use DOS as an OS lol but on a different subject yeah I agree about your above post. I will have to milk what I can off of the V1 but as an ethical person I will only take so much crap out of respect for business practices and need for share holders to make money off of their stocks. But once that line is crossed Apple has lost a good customer that doesnt care to pay high prices for something of value (as most iPhone users are evidently.) I expect yall to do the same because after most of us seem to forget how much leverage we have over Apple as a consumer market we are relatively small and its easy to change stuff we are unhappy about... not like the market of car owners that are pissed about having to pay high gas prices to use what they value lol Actually thats in a nutshell exactly whats happening lol Maybe somebody upstairs @ ATT saw the pattern and came up with the plan.... :D

[greenjbhsd]

I have a v1 phone and have not really had any issues with 2.0 except that I cannot sync my photos folder. I find that during the sync operation it will sync everything but that and then I have to stop the sync as it sits there and never ends. It does appear to be syncing everything except the photos though.

[psylichon]

I have a v1 phone and have not really had any issues with 2.0 except that I cannot sync my photos folder. I find that during the sync operation it will sync everything but that and then I have to stop the sync as it sits there and never ends. It does appear to be syncing everything except the photos though.

Oh man, I had that happen to me before. Exact same thing you describe. I've been sitting here for 5 minutes punching myself in the head trying to remember what it was that solved it. I aaaaalmost wanna say it was a bad cable! Sounds crazy huh? Got another cable you can try, though?

[greenjbhsd]

I might, I will see. I think we have a half dozen of them from all the ipods we have gone through. Let me check that out. Good starting point if nothing else!

[ChrisTaylor05]

WTF..so those of us who bought an iPhone in the spring not knowing Apple had a new thing on the way(4 mo later) are trying to stretch our hardware....IMHO a real stupid idea and makes no business sense at all

A 1 yr product cycle and then no support or piss/poor support to force an upgrade on a new user

No loyalty there..screw them if you are correct, the iPhone is nice but far from perfect ...there are other choices out there



Yes lol this is exactly what im talking about... There is too much overwhelming evidence based on Apples moves. LOL I hate to dig in and bring my personal life into this but Im a Dectective by trade so I kinda look at everyones actions as a puzzle.

That move that you described above with Apple telling all V1 users that adopted the phone right around the time of the release of the 3G can get new iPhones free. While on the surface that seems like a good customer service tactic to prevent angry customers. What they didnt tell you is you have to resign a 2 year contract and pay higher everything. This might have even on the smallest scale been a "good and just" idea but the fact still remains that Apple got payed alot of money to bring a certain number of users over to ATT. Now imagine this... What about those who are uneligable to buy one at the subsidized price and are stuck with a crappy phone that Apple will likley not help you fix your old phone because there is a much easier fix... Buy a 3G and sign the contract... Im saying this because I know several GoPhone Iphone users who use the iPhone as a second phone and they basically got screwed... But there are an overabundance of examples of how many people are being screwed by these 2 companies and because somany people are happy being screwed most people who enjoyed what they had are now being "cattle ranched" around in this and can do little but give up a product you love and go to something you dont want or play along with their game... Pretty sad... but Ill go along with it for a while...

[tharmsen]

No crashing or speed problems on my end. I mean, I have one app that is crash happy and that's EA Games' Tetris. Everyone knows that it's the app crashing and not the phones fault (read the reviews). Otherwise, I LOVE 2.0 and I wouldn't go back to 1.x anything if you paid me. My phone does everything I want and need it to now.

[Pimpboy51]

I also get some slow response times. The pictures icon takes a gfew seconds to load now, and the games sometimes don't work and go back to the home page on their own. OMG I NOTICED IF U CLICK A VIDEO IN THE MUSIC BUTTON (BY ARTIST) IT PLAYS THE VIDEO IN THE 2 SIDES OF LANDSCAPE!!! LOL!

[Lincoln]

I wasn't planning on updating my current iPhone, but just getting the 3G; I broke down today and updated. I've been using the phone non-stop on 2.0 now for several hours and not once has it crashed, slowed down, nor have I experienced any decrease on battery life.

[tharmsen]

I wasn't planning on updating my current iPhone, but just getting the 3G; I broke down today and updated. I've been using the phone non-stop on 2.0 now for several hours and not once has it crashed, slowed down, nor have I experienced any decrease on battery life.
...and chances are you won't experience any problems. But, you will get a HUGE smile on your face after you discover the some 30 apps you can't live without (free even) on the App Store. :)

2.0 rocks!

[NickT916]

i really hate txting, its hecka slower, trying to erase something is even worse, because of the lag it deletes like 3 more words after i stoped deleting, the whole "use current location" thing sucks with the camera because the other day i had to use a camera really quickly and this stupid pop is starting to get annoying.

i had a hard time going back to 1.1.4 so i had to go back to 2.0... i will try again later following this link http://www.iclarified.com/entry/index.php?enid=1504

[rj5620]

I installed 2.0 and my V1 is:

1. slower on everything, screen changes, camera is slower..
2. Crashes x2 per day
3. Screwy Wi-Fi sometimes finds my router sometimes not
(always did on 1.4)
4. Cellular signal less bars at my home
5. Crash Band.. and most of the apps ocassionally crash first time.
6. Battery life 70 % as good as before.

If I could, I might go back to 1.4

[Lazarus]

hey anyone know when you dl the file thru iTunes ya know just download not install, where does the file save to cuz I can't find it plz?

[Lincoln]

I installed 2.0 and my V1 is:

1. slower on everything, screen changes, camera is slower..
2. Crashes x2 per day
3. Screwy Wi-Fi sometimes finds my router sometimes not
(always did on 1.4)
4. Cellular signal less bars at my home
5. Crash Band.. and most of the apps ocassionally crash first time.
6. Battery life 70 % as good as before.

If I could, I might go back to 1.4

It's not 100% guaranteed to work, but here's a method (http://sleepers.net/news/?page_id=216)to downgrade.

[wrhutch]

2.0 is buggy on V1. I bet that we see an update soon.

[Fred87nc]

Wow I thought I was the only one, 2.0 sucks My screen is all laggy now, response time sucks, I type on forums and the screen keeps moving . wtf I don't want this sh7t on my phone, I want to downgrade, is the method listed above not even 100% gurantee it work?

[nealh]

Wow I thought I was the only one, 2.0 sucks My screen is all laggy now, response time sucks, I type on forums and the screen keeps moving . wtf I don't want this sh7t on my phone, I want to downgrade, is the method listed above not even 100% gurantee it work?
I have noticed something else...often when my phone is "alseep" and I hit the home button it will sometimes open an app...like contacts, text etc not the home screen even though I closed whatever app I was using when I "slept" the phone

I dont get how Apple did not get this to be a smoother FW upgrade...they have had months to get it working on the V1

It no doubt slower, more battery hungry, has bizarre behavior,EDGE seems to work less well...much slower overall(I live in Tampa)...I am wondering if the fw has somehow slowed EDGE perfromance, I figured the EDGE network might be a bit faster since less users with 3G out

[Disasterpiece]

i guess i'm lucky, i haven't had any of these issues with speed and crashing
Me either. Got 2.0 a couple nights ago, been perfect since.

[nealh]

Me either. Got 2.0 a couple nights ago, been perfect since.
I thought so too. After a couple of days, I noticed the lag opening things, camera was dirt slow

I hope all stays well for you

[Disasterpiece]

I thought so too. After a couple of days, I noticed the lag opening things, camera was dirt slow

I hope all stays well for you
Thanks man. I also hope not to see that.
If anything changes and my iPhone starts to act up ill post in here again.
Apple IMO didnt so things right. As much as i love having apps, and the new things that 2.0 brought to the v1 iPhone, i do not think Apple should have thrown us this update the day the new iPhone comes out. They should have waited AT LEAST 2 months.

Long story short, i waitied with buds in line for the 3g for 20 hours. The time came friday at 8am, i walked in. Due to complications, AND FALSE ADVETISING i walked out with my v1 still as my phone. 20 hours, no iPhone 3g. Basically they said if i bought my iPhone before May-xx-08 i was not eligable for the 200$-300$ pricing. I would have to pay full price even though i was a Apple iPhone exsting customer. I said Efff you and walked out.:angry: So apple pissed me off there, now they are effing up the update for my current iPhone.....Not happy man....

[iLLGT2]

Glad I'm not the only one, typing on this nownis death with page jumping up and down and terribly slow/laggy.

No joke, I'm going back to my ex iPhone with 1.1.2 software, I'll miss the apps but it was fast and flawless, I never updated to 1.4 cause they ran like this 2.0 but not as bad LOL.

[JimD]

hey anyone know when you dl the file thru iTunes ya know just download not install, where does the file save to cuz I can't find it plz?

PC or Mac?

Mac - I don't know.

On a PC the file is placed in the directory "C:\Documents and Settings\YOUR USER NAME HERE\Application Data\Apple Computer\iTunes\iPhone Software Updates"

[raezilla]

my batt life is shorter and for some reason itunes will show a song being played but no sound even with the volumes at full

[tharmsen]

There must be something where it causes some phone problems and others work fine. My v1 phone is still working flawlessly. I have 3 pages of apps, I surf all the time and I've not had any of the problems mentioned here yet with the phone being slow, Edge being slower than normal (which isn't fast to begin with) or odd behavior with the home button.

I've had my iPhone since iDay a year ago and I've had v2.0 since the early pre-release... which I upgraded to the release version on the 11th.

Strange...

[ryfone]

maybe it depends on when you did the upgrade. i made the mistake of upgrading the night of Friday the 11th - took 2hrs to upgrade. i've experienced many of the problems people are talking about in this thread. hope apple comes out with another upgrade soon...

[Muckcityjustin]

i've never been more unhappy with my phone since i downloaded 2.0 and i just downloaded it a few days ago. So its not like i downloaded on the 11th and got stuck with early issues. I miss my 1.1.4 ziphone... i should of listened to his blog...

[Swagger]

I have noticed since installing 2.0 on my v1 iPhone (Yes I still love it and won't switch). My phone has become very unstable. The touchscreen is unresponsive at times, the phone crashes, the phone signal is horrible, the touch to response time, has slowed considerably and calls are being sent to voice mail. I have tried restoring but, still the same problems.

Apple had plenty of time, to figure out this update and get it right. I think jailbreaking the iPhone was more stable than 2.0. I guess my only choice is to return to 1.1.4.

I'm just wondering, is Apple going to release a patch/update to address these problems? I see that many people are having the exact same problems as I. I really expected more out of Apple. Had this have been Microsoft, I would have just written it off as business as usual...Mark

[mac29]

The only problem I have with 2.0 is that every once in awhile it vibrates uncontrollably for no reason, oh yeah it sometimes lags.

[iLLGT2]

We will just have to wait it out, blah.

[DYoakum]

I am having most of the same issues as everyone else. At first I thought it was because I adapted to 2.0 early and maybe it was unstable. But as I see other's same responses, I guess it's not just me.

Oh the topic of them phasing out the V1, I was thinking of something today. Expect to lose all product R&D for new accessories. Companies are now gonna be making products for the new 3G, and no longer for the V1. (I'm thinking products with docks)

[frizz]

What really sucks is that they (AT&T & APPLE) have known about j/b and u/l, and this may be their answer to stopping it from happening. What happens if they do this every 2 yrs, or every year, to stay ahead of the dev teams? Do I sound paranoid? What if?