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jjjj1047
07-15-2008, 09:52 AM
I upgraded my 1st generation iPhone (which I've had since the day it was released last year) to the 2.0 software. Ever since I did, it seems to be sucking the life out of the battery. Before the upgrade, I had no problems with battery life. I've downloaded a few of the new applications, but I've done nothing else different than I've been doing for the past year. Anyone else having the same issue? Also, since the upgrade, the operation of the iPhone has slowed down (going from application to mail to browser, etc.). Anyone else?

nealh
07-15-2008, 10:00 AM
Try turning off location services
http://www.everythingicafe.com/forum/iphone-software/for-those-with-slow-apps-and-or-poor-battery-life-after-2-0-update-31705.html

jjjj1047
07-15-2008, 10:09 AM
Try turning off location services
http://www.everythingicafe.com/forum/iphone-software/for-those-with-slow-apps-and-or-poor-battery-life-after-2-0-update-31705.html

Thanks for the suggestion. I will try that and see how it works. Sorry that I didn't see the other thread. There are so many issues between hardware, software, applications and it's really hard to find what you're looking for in many cases.

jUeLz23
07-15-2008, 10:11 AM
maybe becuz ur using ur phone more?
these battery problems threads are getting outta hand

nealh
07-15-2008, 10:13 AM
Thanks for the suggestion. I will try that and see how it works. Sorry that I didn't see the other thread. There are so many issues between hardware, software, applications and it's really hard to find what you're looking for in many cases.
NP
Just link to thread to give the correct person credit for the idea

seems to have helped some

jjjj1047
07-15-2008, 10:22 AM
maybe becuz ur using ur phone more?
these battery problems threads are getting outta hand

No, I'm using it no more or less than I have for the past year. I have never had a problem with the battery life until I upgraded to 2.0, so I have to assume that it's the 2.0 that is causing this. Some of the battery complaints might be unfounded, but this is a legitimate issue as it applies to my iPhone. Face it, Apple knows and has admitted that battery life has been a concern from day one on this product, and we all know that not having a replaceable battery is a big negative for the iPhone.

jpm
07-15-2008, 08:47 PM
I noticed 2.0 runs slower and the screen seems to be less sensitive. Hopefully fixes will come with the next update.
As for the battery, I used to be able to go two days between charges and now I just make it though one day. But I don't think it’s because of power usage from the operating system, it’s because I use it so much more with all the apps.

ColsTiger
07-16-2008, 01:31 PM
2.0 definitely requires more battery and appears to be a little sluggish compared to 1.1.4.

todesto
07-16-2008, 09:20 PM
2.0 definitely requires more battery and appears to be a little sluggish compared to 1.1.4.

I totally agree. Apple, we need improved 2.1! :wink:

jpm
07-17-2008, 12:56 AM
I posted this in another thread about battery usage.

If ya all didn't know when you updated to 2.0 a new link in your web shortcuts was created, the iphone users guide. If you read that you will see that location services are to tag locations to your photos and for maps. It even gives a note that says "to conserve battery life, turn off location services when you're not using it".

nealh
07-17-2008, 07:13 AM
I posted this in another thread about battery usage.

If ya all didn't know when you updated to 2.0 a new link in your web shortcuts was created, the iphone users guide. If you read that you will see that location services are to tag locations to your photos and for maps. It even gives a note that says "to conserve battery life, turn off location services when you're not using it".
Where did you find this...I would like to see this help file

whale_hunter
07-17-2008, 07:21 AM
Do you use a bunch of different fonts on the iphone for no reason like you do on here?
That might be your problem.

jpm
07-17-2008, 09:38 PM
Where did you find this...I would like to see this help file




Open the browser on your iphone. Hit the bookmarks button, scroll down the list (Mine was second from the bottom) to the iphone users guide.


If ya all didn't know when you updated to 2.0 a new link in your web shortcuts was created, the iphone users guide. If you read that you will see that location services are to tag locations to your photos and for maps. It even gives a note that says "to conserve battery life, turn off location services when you're not using it".

nealh
07-17-2008, 09:51 PM
Open the browser on your iphone. Hit the bookmarks button, scroll down the list (Mine was second from the bottom) to the iphone users guide.


If ya all didn't know when you updated to 2.0 a new link in your web shortcuts was created, the iphone users guide. If you read that you will see that location services are to tag locations to your photos and for maps. It even gives a note that says "to conserve battery life, turn off location services when you're not using it".
Thanks :laugh2:

scott99
07-18-2008, 01:24 PM
You can also find this in your settings>general>Location Services. Mine was on, so I shut it off. Thanks for finding this !

jjjj1047
07-20-2008, 11:32 AM
I have found that Location Services turns itself on without letting you know, but even when it is off, the battery life in my original iPhone is really terrible with 2.0. I have done absolutely nothing with my iPhone for the past day and I have less than 50% battery remaining after charging it fully. You can say "turn this off" and "turn that off", but why the heck buy this product if you can't use it? It's like saying that a Hummer is fuel efficient and affordable if you leave it in your garage. WTF? I made this purchase a year ago and have loved the iPhone, but between getting dorked with initial price drop and the new model and the 2.0 software, it looks like Apple really doesn't give a rats butt about their customers. At least if there was a replaceable battery, I'd feel that I can swap when needed and use it as much as I want or need to. It looks like Apple has lowered themselves to the cell phone company mentality that we all have witnessed over the past few years. Apple has always said "Think Different" about their company. I wish they remember that with their phone ventures.

nealh
07-20-2008, 12:03 PM
I have found that Location Services turns itself on without letting you know, but even when it is off, the battery life in my original iPhone is really terrible with 2.0. I have done absolutely nothing with my iPhone for the past day and I have less than 50% battery remaining after charging it fully. You can say "turn this off" and "turn that off", but why the heck buy this product if you can't use it? It's like saying that a Hummer is fuel efficient and affordable if you leave it in your garage. WTF? I made this purchase a year ago and have loved the iPhone, but between getting dorked with initial price drop and the new model and the 2.0 software, it looks like Apple really doesn't give a rats butt about their customers. At least if there was a replaceable battery, I'd feel that I can swap when needed and use it as much as I want or need to. It looks like Apple has lowered themselves to the cell phone company mentality that we all have witnessed over the past few years. Apple has always said "Think Different" about their company. I wish they remember that with their phone ventures.
I agree

Try this for battery life..I used to charge via usb and wait till it was 100%

I have found if I use the wall charger and charge overnight, the charge "seems" better and lasts much longer(it addition to turning off location services and auto brightness)...I do have BT on all the time in settings

I am not a big surfer, txter etc....but this has helped my battery life. I do try to let the battery run down as much as I can given my daily needs for use

I do notice much faster battery drain on 2.0 with using EDGE than 1.1.4

goobs22xx
07-20-2008, 01:17 PM
Do you use a bunch of different fonts on the iphone for no reason like you do on here?
That might be your problem.

Thanks for contributing to the thread.

YvilKittyInSpace
07-20-2008, 01:28 PM
As of now, I have 3 days 2 hours on this latest charge. I have email along with Mobile Me push going on, WiFi enabled and i have location services off.

I've used it a few times to make calls and play a game for a few minutes.

Wish I could get this on my 3G.

jjjj1047
07-21-2008, 08:01 AM
Do you use a bunch of different fonts on the iphone for no reason like you do on here?
That might be your problem.

I appreciate the feedback, but I don't even know how to change the font on the iPhone. I use the browser, listen to music, under-use my minutes on the phone, and read my e-mails. If I respond to e-mails, I use whatever font that automatically comes up. I don't ask for too much from the iPhone. I put it on charge every night and I should not have to worry if it will go dead during the day.

Elbacanazo920
07-21-2008, 08:11 AM
I have found that Location Services turns itself on without letting you know, but even when it is off, the battery life in my original iPhone is really terrible with 2.0. I have done absolutely nothing with my iPhone for the past day and I have less than 50% battery remaining after charging it fully. You can say "turn this off" and "turn that off", but why the heck buy this product if you can't use it? It's like saying that a Hummer is fuel efficient and affordable if you leave it in your garage. WTF? I made this purchase a year ago and have loved the iPhone, but between getting dorked with initial price drop and the new model and the 2.0 software, it looks like Apple really doesn't give a rats butt about their customers. At least if there was a replaceable battery, I'd feel that I can swap when needed and use it as much as I want or need to. It looks like Apple has lowered themselves to the cell phone company mentality that we all have witnessed over the past few years. Apple has always said "Think Different" about their company. I wish they remember that with their phone ventures.

You'll be happy again soon once 2.1 is out. I have also noticed that 2.0 sucks battery life and makes me feel like I'm using windows Mobile with its crashes and all that other not good stuff, But in due time you'll make a post saying that you are finally happy again; So just hold On a little bit longer (I Know You Can do it) :laugh2:

jjjj1047
07-21-2008, 08:14 AM
You'll be happy again soon once 2.1 is out. I have also noticed that 2.0 sucks battery life and makes me feel like I'm using windows Mobile with its crashes and all that other not good stuff, But in due time you'll make a post saying that you are finally happy again; So just hold On a little bit longer (I Know You Can do it) :laugh2:

From your mouth to Job's ears.....I hope you're right! Thanks.

Elbacanazo920
07-21-2008, 08:18 AM
So do I cause my experince really went downwards. Most of my Apps from the APP store crash, Mail takes even longer to retrieve and all programs that even came with the iPhone take longer than usual to close and start up.

lman
07-21-2008, 11:22 AM
I've turned the location services off and also have kept the same battery saving techniques that i used on the 1.1.4 software (checking for mail settings, wi-fi) and have found my battery is relatively the same on 2.0, it still can last a day+ with average use and heavy internet and game use a day.

rmfnla
07-21-2008, 01:25 PM
Thanks for contributing to the thread.


lol.......

YvilKittyInSpace
07-21-2008, 01:34 PM
On my recently upgraded first generation iPhone running 2.0, I had my best battery performance since upgrading to 2.0: 3 days 16 hours. I finally had to put it on the charger after making some calls. I used to be able to do this all the time before 2.0, glad to see it can still happen.

I am also on 1 day 12 hours on my 3G iPhone.

tharmsen
07-21-2008, 01:42 PM
Face it, Apple knows and has admitted that battery life has been a concern from day one on this product, and we all know that not having a replaceable battery is a big negative for the iPhone.
Since Apple had admitted it and we all know about it already, why are we discussing it yet again?

I don't have battery problems, but then I understand how to use my iPhone so that it's not an issue. If you think the battery life in the iPhone sucks, try a Moto Q sometime.

nishant_81
07-21-2008, 01:51 PM
quantifying this: how much battery usage do people get, in terms of actual number of hours used? I barely manage to get beyon 4:30 - 5 hours before the warnings, and I only mostly use email, some web, some apps (no games though), and 20-25% call time. Would be good to know how many "actual" hours people get out of there old/new iphones.....!

thanks.

jjjj1047
07-21-2008, 02:01 PM
Since Apple had admitted it and we all know about it already, why are we discussing it yet again?

I don't have battery problems, but then I understand how to use my iPhone so that it's not an issue. If you think the battery life in the iPhone sucks, try a Moto Q sometime.

I think it's because it's getting worse rather than better that we keep discussing it. At least they let you post honest opinions and concerns on this board instead of deleting similar posts as they seem to do on the Apple "Pleasantville" discussion board. Discussion is healthy. We all love our iPhones and want them to perform they way they should.

lman
07-21-2008, 03:06 PM
lol.......

hey mr negative I was just saying that I've had succes reverting back to the battery saving techniques used during previous firmware releases.

rmfnla
07-21-2008, 04:42 PM
hey mr negative I was just saying that I've had succes reverting back to the battery saving techniques used during previous firmware releases.


Look again, pal; I was responding to goobs22xx's posting (which I quoted in my reply).

Little jumpy there, don't you think..?

lman
07-21-2008, 04:48 PM
Look again, pal; I was responding to goobs22xx's posting (which I quoted in my reply).

Little jumpy there, don't you think..?
I thought you were quoting it as a way of repeating it to apply to my post, my apologies. I knew it was either that or you were just laughing at the other post, knowing my luck i should have guessed you weren't responding to me.

TonyTHT
07-21-2008, 04:59 PM
I've had similar experiences on mine with v2.0 - decreased battery life and sluggish response. I was in my local Apple Store at the weekend and one of the guys at the Genius Bar acknowledged these issues, and said he had heard the same from many people. He also indicated it would probably be resolved in a future software update, but of course its too early to say when that would be.

T

rmfnla
07-21-2008, 06:09 PM
I thought you were quoting it as a way of repeating it to apply to my post, my apologies. I knew it was either that or you were just laughing at the other post, knowing my luck i should have guessed you weren't responding to me.


It's cool.

tharmsen
07-21-2008, 10:54 PM
I think it's because it's getting worse rather than better that we keep discussing it. At least they let you post honest opinions and concerns on this board instead of deleting similar posts as they seem to do on the Apple "Pleasantville" discussion board. Discussion is healthy. We all love our iPhones and want them to perform they way they should.
The last time I checked, they were performing the way they should for the vast majority of users... A couple of people saying their phones suck on a form don't speak for the nearly 1 million new 3G owners out there who are happy with their purchases (not to mention the couple million v1 owners).

I'm not advocating the deletion of posts. I'm just asking how many freaking battery threads do we need a day? Can't people use the search functionality? Can't they just post to an existing thread vs. starting 10 new ones with the same topic?

The iPhone battery life rivals, if not exceeds anything the competition is offering. Yes, the amazing battery life got shorter with the software update. Why people are surprised is beyond me... I mean, people say they want certain functionality but when it comes they complain about the cost...

"The phone got bigger!", "the battery life sucks now!", etc.

If you don't want to use push email and you would rather have longer battery life - disable push email. If you don't want to use a bluetooth headset because it kills your battery, disable it. If you don't want to run a 3G transmitter, disable it. At least Apple gives you the option.

Like it or not, batteries are stuck in the stone ages. Apple can't turn water into wine so they, like the rest of the world, must wait until battery technology catches up.

jjjj1047
07-22-2008, 10:05 AM
The last time I checked, they were performing the way they should for the vast majority of users... A couple of people saying their phones suck on a form don't speak for the nearly 1 million new 3G owners out there who are happy with their purchases (not to mention the couple million v1 owners).

I'm not advocating the deletion of posts. I'm just asking how many freaking battery threads do we need a day? Can't people use the search functionality? Can't they just post to an existing thread vs. starting 10 new ones with the same topic?

The iPhone battery life rivals, if not exceeds anything the competition is offering. Yes, the amazing battery life got shorter with the software update. Why people are surprised is beyond me... I mean, people say they want certain functionality but when it comes they complain about the cost...

"The phone got bigger!", "the battery life sucks now!", etc.

If you don't want to use push email and you would rather have longer battery life - disable push email. If you don't want to use a bluetooth headset because it kills your battery, disable it. If you don't want to run a 3G transmitter, disable it. At least Apple gives you the option.

Like it or not, batteries are stuck in the stone ages. Apple can't turn water into wine so they, like the rest of the world, must wait until battery technology catches up.

Maybe if there was an "iPhone Battery" topic there would not be so many threads relating to batteries. The battery life issue crosses over many of the topics on this forum, so it's really difficult to narrow down the threads given all the topics.
As far as comparing the battery life of the iPhone with the "competition", I think that the biggest difference here is that we cannot change the batteries. If I was able to have 2 or 3 batteries and change them when needed, I would have no worries or complaints about battery life. It's not about the cost of the batteries, it's more the inability to use my iPhone when and how often that I want to or need to. I think that would eliminate most of the battery complaints that you are hearing about.

tharmsen
07-23-2008, 05:26 PM
I don't carry around spare batteries even when I had phones that could use them like the Moto Q (which killed a battery in 2 hours with heavy use). I don't need a pocket full of batteries nor do I need to carry around a bag for phone accessories.

Some people want to and that's cool.

Most people use car chargers and have extra chargers at home or at the office. My phone can easily go 5 hours with heavy use before it needs a charge. That gives me ample time to get to a charger vs. carrying around 2-3 batteries which would just got lost or broken by me anyway.

If you want to carry a back-up battery, get a recharger kit. They're everywhere.