1 COP bought 6 w/o waiting in line....

[Lazarus]

Only in Miami does this kinda of shyt happen. Listen to this and forgive my typing cuz my hands our shaking like crazy due to all the trauma the cops caused me. 1st the facts, they came out at 6pm and said they had only 50 and I was #46 in line so I was kool. so at 6pm they let in the 1st batch of people to buy the iPhone (they also said 2 per person so most of us before 50 we're worried to say the least also 3 Miami Beach COP cars had been posted outside 2 COPS per car since 5:30pm for "crowd control" so we thought) and 1 COP went in also, no big deal at the time no one payed it any mind but low and behold 15min later a couple of proud new iPhone owners walk out with a little bag that bought 1 and 2 little bags that bought 2.
Needless to say they were happy as hell and practically ran to their car. Well 5min after that the COP comes out with a HUGE bag so the next guy in line confronts the COP saying "hey how are you able to buy what looked like to us 6 iPhones" givin the number of COPS that were there without waiting in line? I have been here since 9am. that COP made a mad dash past him got in the car and took off, while the COPS physically man handled him throwing him out of line up against the cop car asking him "Why are you harassing that officer?"
meanwhile I am recording all of this on my cell and like a dumbass not trying to hide the fact. Well 1 COP noticed and did the same to me threw me up against the cop car demanding me to hand over my phone, well after a long 2min of wrestling him he told the other officer to help him put the handcuffs on me. With that said I gave up and told him plz I will delete it look. So i did and he let me go.
I jumped back in line to my 46th spot and by the time I did turned around and all the COPS took off with their lights on only. So to make a long story short, to late I know. Remeber they said they had 50 and I was #46 well when it came time for me to walk in the door and buy one they said we are sold out. So at that point we all in line figured it out that the COPS were not there for crowd control (even tho AT&T had their own security officer there) they were just there to buy 6 iPhones, my iPhone.
Needless to say I will be crying for the next couple of days or weeks it might be till I receive mine. Anybody else got a story to tell? Misery loves company ya know.

[EJW2202]

Wow! That really sucks.

[Lazarus]

tell me about it, thx for your time

[Platinum]

I am sorry to hear this happened to you, that really sucks. Were you at the Lincoln Road Apple store? I live in Miami and went to Fort Lauderdale to get my iPhone to escape the madness down there. Too many corrupted people around Miami.

[Lazarus]

dam I wish I could of done the same, nah I was in DownTown Miami. So how was it over there? mad line? sold out?

[DD0]

Ya they let a bunch of people cut where I was too. I was #6 and I ended up being 10.

3 people in front of me had a friend, mom and dad show up with about 20 mins left. Each was just like we want to go in and look at the phone while our kid/friend buys theirs. I saw all of them buy a phone and no one said I word. I told the guy he better sell me 2 since they let that happen, but he refused. Was pretty lame. Hope no one lost a phone cause of them.

[Sobe]

Reasons why I went to the Apple Store in the Aventura Mall.

[zeluiz22]

Only in Miami does this kinda of shyt happen. Listen to this and forgive my typing cuz my hands our shaking like crazy due to all the trauma the cops caused me. 1st the facts, they came out at 6pm and said they had only 50 and I was #46 in line so I was kool. so at 6pm they let in the 1st batch of people to buy the iPhone (they also said 2 per person so most of us before 50 we're worried to say the least also 3 Miami Beach COP cars had been posted outside 2 COPS per car since 5:30pm for "crowd control" so we thought) and 1 COP went in also, no big deal at the time no one payed it any mind but low and behold 15min later a couple of proud new iPhone owners walk out with a little bag that bought 1 and 2 little bags that bought 2.
Needless to say they were happy as hell and practically ran to their car. Well 5min after that the COP comes out with a HUGE bag so the next guy in line confronts the COP saying "hey how are you able to buy what looked like to us 6 iPhones" givin the number of COPS that were there without waiting in line? I have been here since 9am. that COP made a mad dash past him got in the car and took off, while the COPS physically man handled him throwing him out of line up against the cop car asking him "Why are you harassing that officer?"
meanwhile I am recording all of this on my cell and like a dumbass not trying to hide the fact. Well 1 COP noticed and did the same to me threw me up against the cop car demanding me to hand over my phone, well after a long 2min of wrestling him he told the other officer to help him put the handcuffs on me. With that said I gave up and told him plz I will delete it look. So i did and he let me go.
I jumped back in line to my 46th spot and by the time I did turned around and all the COPS took off with their lights on only. So to make a long story short, to late I know. Remeber they said they had 50 and I was #46 well when it came time for me to walk in the door and buy one they said we are sold out. So at that point we all in line figured it out that the COPS were not there for crowd control (even tho AT&T had their own security officer there) they were just there to buy 6 iPhones, my iPhone.
Needless to say I will be crying for the next couple of days or weeks it might be till I receive mine. Anybody else got a story to tell? Misery loves company ya know.

That wouldn't happen in Boston- F* that. Completely gross.

[Lazarus]

Ya they let a bunch of people cut where I was too. I was #6 and I ended up being 10.

3 people in front of me had a friend, mom and dad show up with about 20 mins left. Each was just like we want to go in and look at the phone while our kid/friend buys theirs. I saw all of them buy a phone and no one said I word. I told the guy he better sell me 2 since they let that happen, but he refused. Was pretty lame. Hope no one lost a phone cause of them.
where were you at? that's bs they should of sold you 2 cuz a lot of people bought 2 in downtown Miami.

[Lazarus]

Reasons why I went to the Apple Store in the Aventura Mall.
details plz how many did the store have? did they sell out? how many ppl were in line? I love to torture myself

[Twinnie]

You take their badge numbers? If you do and you complain they will probably not do anything, but if the police department gets numerous complaints about the same officers they'll stop assuming it's a one off.

Personally I wouldn't have let them delete the video.

[Platinum]

dam I wish I could of done the same, nah I was in DownTown Miami. So how was it over there? mad line? sold out?

Whell about 1:30pm I went to the Apple store at the Galleria Mall in Fort Lauderdale, there was a huge line about 200+ people that was all split up to avoid blocking shops... so I left for the AT&T store on Sunrise, there was only about 12 people there so I got in line. There was alot of FtLaud police all over so there wasnt really any problems.

AT&T had major computer problems when the first group of 6 went in for their phones and it took them ages to come out, some longer than others. I was # 13 in line and ended up getting in at 7:00pm because of all the problems. There was prolly around 75+ people behind me, so they are probably still there.

[Sobe]

details plz how many did the store have? did they sell out? how many ppl were in line? I love to torture myself

About 300 people lined up.

They had more than enough.

With 2 per person.

[Lazarus]

Whell about 1:30pm I went to the Apple store at the Galleria Mall in Fort Lauderdale, there was a huge line about 200+ people that was all split up to avoid blocking shops... so I left for the AT&T store on Sunrise, there was only about 12 people there so I got in line. There was alot of FtLaud police all over so there wasnt really any problems.

AT&T had major problems when the first group of 6 went in for their phones and it took them ages to come out, some longer than others. I was # 13 in line and ended up getting in at 7:00pm because of all the problems. There was prolly around 75+ people behind me, so they are probably still there.
did the store say how many they had? this info makes no sense to me cuz they all say "O we don't know" I said look I work in shipping and receiving just go look at the packing slip and it says the amount you received.

[Platinum]

The manager was there outside the door keeping guard with a cop and alot of people asked how many he had and he always said he didnt know.

The AT&T store had problems with their computer systems for some reason, he said they had a nation wide emergency ticket out to fix the problems. It took each person like 20+ minutes to get out, I think alot of people had trouble getting their credit cards and stuff to work.

[theraker007]

gather some witnesses and file a complaint

[Platinum]

Luckily it seems as Apple has given most of its stock to the stores, so check the availability thing tommorrow morning early and head out. I am pretty sure you may be able to find one somewhere still.

[Lazarus]

gather some witnesses and file a complaint
I'm waiting to find out cuz the guy that "harassed" the cop works for the state attorney's office so just to show you how pissed he was he forfeited his place in line which was like #8 and just gathered names and numbers the whole time. so wish us luck

[Lazarus]

Luckily it seems as Apple has given most of its stock to the stores, so check the availability thing tommorrow morning early and head out. I am pretty sure you may be able to find one somewhere still.
yeah i was wanting to but said to hell with it and just ordered it in the store

[DD0]

where were you at? that's bs they should of sold you 2 cuz a lot of people bought 2 in downtown Miami.

I was in Dallas. It was lame.

[Lazarus]

but you got one right? be happy :angry:

[DD0]

but you got one right? be happy :angry:

I did get one, that's true. I was saying it was unfair to those at the end who might have lost out.

[Lazarus]

yep that would be me, man I hope that 2-4 weeks they are saying is a worse case scenario or else I'm gonna die

[iPaul]

In the words of N.W.A.... **** THA POLICE. Hope u get one soon mate.

[Jempast]

Personally, I'm not surprised that cops get special treatment. My sister is a sergeant for a police department and she acts like she is better than everyone my brother-in-law is the same he is a police officer as well. All COPS are *Think* they are big shots when they are *NOT*.

[Platinum]

Luckily the cop at my store was actually working and didnt even buy an iPhone. Miami has a ton of corrupt police, its sad to see the iPhone bring them all out.

[Lazarus]

thx for the support ppl i'm really hurtin over here, i wanna kill that mofo

[Shere Khaan]

This is why Apple need to get the video recording straight to youtube up and running pronto.

[Marksman]

Sounds like you are making all kinds of assumptions with a bit of exaggeration and some hyperbole thrown in.

You don't know how why the officers got the phones, and frankly it was none of your business or the other guys business. For all you know it was part of their payment for filling in off-duty to secure the place and one of the officers was taking them all.

The only person I have issue with here is the idiot who felt he needed to confront the cop about it. It was stupid, and like I said none of his business.

If he had a problem he needed to take it up with the store.

[Jempast]

Sounds like you are making all kinds of assumptions with a bit of exaggeration and some hyperbole thrown in.

You don't know how why the officers got the phones, and frankly it was none of your business or the other guys business. For all you know it was part of their payment for filling in off-duty to secure the place and one of the officers was taking them all.

The only person I have issue with here is the idiot who felt he needed to confront the cop about it. It was stupid, and like I said none of his business.

If he had a problem he needed to take it up with the store.


You have a LOT of nerve......jerk!

[captain4004]

That simply is not right, I am sensitive to your plight, keep your head up and what goes around comes around.

[Lazarus]

yeah that's all i can tell myself to stop me from going crazy, as it is i can't sleep. Yes i have issues and this didn't help. I just wish i could be there sometimes when it did come around.

[Fat Man]

Police brutallity at is worst. That is aweful, they should be ashamed. God, and to think they are responsible to make sure the city functions flawlessly. Someone should smash them against a car, and shove their iphones where the sun dont shine tbh:foot:

[Platinum]

yeah that's all i can tell myself to stop me from going crazy, as it is i can't sleep. Yes i have issues and this didn't help. I just wish i could be there sometimes when it did come around.

You will get one soon, just be patient. Maybe you can go out today and look for one, if you find one buy it and then just cancel the online ordered one.

[Lazarus]

wish i could but i spent money i don't have just to buy one as it is, i can't buy another one. I'm screwed I just hope that the 2-4 weeks they say is just a worse case scenario.

[Lazarus]

Police brutallity at is worst. That is aweful, they should be ashamed. God, and to think they are responsible to make sure the city functions flawlessly. Someone should smash them against a car, and shove their iphones where the sun dont shine tbh:foot:
you said it, the thing that lets them get away with it is the system. NO MONEY=NO JUSTICE and I can't afford an attorney so...

[Fat Man]

you said it, the thing that lets them get away with it is the system. NO MONEY=NO JUSTICE and I can't afford an attorney so...

Yeah, and to add insult to injury, they trashed your evidence too. I feel really bad for you. It hasnt even happened to me but i am angry about it.

[Sobe]

Sounds like you are making all kinds of assumptions with a bit of exaggeration and some hyperbole thrown in.

You don't know how why the officers got the phones, and frankly it was none of your business or the other guys business. For all you know it was part of their payment for filling in off-duty to secure the place and one of the officers was taking them all.

The only person I have issue with here is the idiot who felt he needed to confront the cop about it. It was stupid, and like I said none of his business.

If he had a problem he needed to take it up with the store.

Don't go using logic around these parts.

This forum is for regular postin, nor fancy postin.

[Fat Man]

Sounds like you are making all kinds of assumptions with a bit of exaggeration and some hyperbole thrown in.

You don't know how why the officers got the phones, and frankly it was none of your business or the other guys business. For all you know it was part of their payment for filling in off-duty to secure the place and one of the officers was taking them all.

The only person I have issue with here is the idiot who felt he needed to confront the cop about it. It was stupid, and like I said none of his business.

If he had a problem he needed to take it up with the store.

Even if that was the case....they could have handled it a LOT BETTER and MORE PROFESSIONALY.:angry: All the cops had to do was explain the situation..... not too much to ask

[MomPOM]

Ummm... yeah, sorry. Cop or not, wait in line. The freaking ATT people couldn't get their phones earlier so why should cops be able to cut in line?

I'm glad it was very cool where we were. WE had a list set up that everyone signed as they got in line. When they made us move the line it was a godsend because they just read off the list and everyone got back in order.

Go look around, I bet you can find a phone. The mall by my house didn't sell out last night at the Apple Store and still had some this morning when I was there.

[Lazarus]

i want to go try and find one but can't

[Austinsdc]

Dude, you do realize that even though you deleted that video you can still retrieve it. There are programs out there.........I know for a fact that a guy on the forums of Keithandthegirl.com did this to catch his g/f cheating on him. I think he retrieved some pics that had been deleted from a camera. His name is Spooky. Look him up on that forum. He also has a podcast called Spooky In the City. You've got a mighty fine news story there and a lawsuit to boot. My husband is a police officer and i find this behavior absolutely disgusting. They should all be fired and jailed for this behavior. Don't let this go unnoticed. Those people should not have the privlege of wearing a badge.

*EDIT* BTW, if you retrieve this video. Don't worry about paying for a lawyer, they'll be begging to represent you.

[Austinsdc]

Sounds like you are making all kinds of assumptions with a bit of exaggeration and some hyperbole thrown in.

You don't know how why the officers got the phones, and frankly it was none of your business or the other guys business. For all you know it was part of their payment for filling in off-duty to secure the place and one of the officers was taking them all.

The only person I have issue with here is the idiot who felt he needed to confront the cop about it. It was stupid, and like I said none of his business.

If he had a problem he needed to take it up with the store.

Are you out of your mind. Police officers are not above the law. I can see if Marge at the local diner saves you your favorite table when you're on duty or something, but this crosses the line. I'm pretty sure this officer commited a felony or two. You sir are plain wrong.

[zeluiz22]

You have a LOT of nerve......jerk!

Yeah- we all know that cops as a class are reasonable people who never abuse their authority.

[Austinsdc]

Yeah- we all know that cops as a class are reasonable people who never abuse their authority.


It's definately not "never". We've all seen and heard stories like this in the news. Most cops are good people. I know my husband is awesome. Please don't make the mistake of lumping them all into one stereotype.

[Marksman]

Are you out of your mind.

No are you?


Police officers are not above the law.

There is no law about how many iPhones someone can buy. Perhaps you are confused.

I can see if Marge at the local diner saves you your favorite table when you're on duty or something, but this crosses the line. I'm pretty sure this officer commited a felony or two. You sir are plain wrong.

What line does it cross. They were not likely on duty. They were hired as security in an off-duty capacity. City's do not normally pay to protect merchants when they have sales. When you see a cop doing security like that, it is usually just like that, as a security guard. They are getting paid by the store to work there. If the store chose to give them an iPhone for part of that compensation whose business is it besides theirs and the store.

[Marksman]

You have a LOT of nerve......jerk!

Yes nerve, common sense, life experience and perspective. They are all troubling qualities to possess.


:laugh2:

[Austinsdc]

No are you?




There is no law about how many iPhones someone can buy. Perhaps you are confused.



What line does it cross. They were not likely on duty. They were hired as security in an off-duty capacity. City's do not normally pay to protect merchants when they have sales. When you see a cop doing security like that, it is usually just like that, as a security guard. They are getting paid by the store to work there. If the store chose to give them an iPhone for part of that compensation whose business is it besides theirs and the store.


It crosses many lines, and not about buying the Phones. Buying the phones the way they did falls under the catagory of *********gary.

If this guy is telling the truth, these officers assaulted him under the color of authority. I believe that is a felony.

It's fine if the store had a deal with them. If they did I'm sure they would have reacted in a different manner. Obviously from the way they reacted i think any reasonable person could conclude that they were doing something they didn't feel that great about/knew wasn't exactly fair.

[Marksman]

It crosses many lines, and not about buying the Phones. Buying the phones the way they did falls under the catagory of *********gary.

The only *********s were the guys in lines hassling the police.


If this guy is telling the truth, these officers assaulted him under the color of authority. I believe that is a felony. He was being a *********. he deserved it. He was not assaulted. You must not know what asault is. Police touching someone is not assault. Like I said, his fairy tale is woven with hyperbole and exxageration to try and make his position more sympathetic. I don't care if the police were out of line or not. The idiots IN LINE were being idiots, so I have no sympathy for them. If they would have minded their own business known of it would have happened.


It's fine if the store had a deal with them. If they did I'm sure they would have reacted in a different manner.Why is that? The police are out there working a second job protecting the store and protecting the people at the store and a couple of *********s start making a scene. Why would they behaved any differently. How old are you?


Obviously from the way they reacted i think any reasonable person could conclude that they were doing something they didn't feel that great about/knew wasn't exactly fair.That is a ridiculous assumption. The store sold them the phones. They did not steal them. There was nothing the least bit untoward or wrong about it. There wasn't even any way for it to be the least bit untoward.

Tell me again, what did they do wrong? They didn't do anything wrong. The one officer came out with a bunch of iPhones. Like I said, whose business is it of the guy who popped off or the original poster?

[ahactor]

That is bull crap. Exactly why I am waiting to get mine. They can't make you delete a video on your phone, it's against your rights, because it was your personal property. Also, they cannot cuff you without an arrest, and catching a bad officer doing bad things is NOT a reasonable offense. Also, wrestling you to take away your private property is assault and attempted robbery. if the cop had a gun, then it would be armed assault and attempted armed robbery. Stick it to the man. I would have sent it to someone personally. I would go right down to the station and report them in person. An AT&T Representative would remember them going in there and buying iPhones. I'm really sorry this happened to you. you have grounds for a law suit, at least in my mind. As I read these things, I am regretting less and less my decision to wait until the end of July. Hope your search for the iPhone becomes fruitful eventually.

[iPaul]

[quote=Marksman;30966][quote]

...and what exactly do you do for a living, "Marksman"?

[zeluiz22]

It's definately not "never". We've all seen and heard stories like this in the news. Most cops are good people. I know my husband is awesome. Please don't make the mistake of lumping them all into one stereotype.

There are the good and the bad among police, just like any other group.

[Austinsdc]

You are obviously not able to look at this with a reasonable persons intelligence and have no grasp of the laws in this country. I will not be having this ridiculous discussion with you anymore. If you are a cop, you are not a very informed one. Have a nice day and enjoy your phone. Anything you post after this will not be read by me.

[Austinsdc]

There are the good and the bad among police, just like any other group.

Exactly!!!!!!!!!

[Lazarus]

thx a lot yeah I hope we have a case against them, I should of called their bluff and just stood my ground.

[Fat Man]

The only *********s were the guys in lines hassling the police.


He was being a *********. he deserved it. He was not assaulted. You must not know what asault is. Police touching someone is not assault. Like I said, his fairy tale is woven with hyperbole and exxageration to try and make his position more sympathetic. I don't care if the police were out of line or not. The idiots IN LINE were being idiots, so I have no sympathy for them. If they would have minded their own business known of it would have happened.


Why is that? The police are out there working a second job protecting the store and protecting the people at the store and a couple of *********s start making a scene. Why would they behaved any differently. How old are you?


That is a ridiculous assumption. The store sold them the phones. They did not steal them. There was nothing the least bit untoward or wrong about it. There wasn't even any way for it to be the least bit untoward.

Tell me again, what did they do wrong? They didn't do anything wrong. The one officer came out with a bunch of iPhones. Like I said, whose business is it of the guy who popped off or the original poster?

Twat alert. It wouldnt surprise me if you were the police officer who went in to get the frixin phones. The police were out of line for line jumping and taking more than the allowed 2 per person. The guy had every right to confront him for being unfair. The officers man handeled him and he hadnt touched them at all. That my friend is ASSAULT.

[zeluiz22]

Twat alert. It wouldnt surprise me if you were the police officer who went in to get the frixin phones. The police were out of line for line jumping and taking more than the allowed 2 per person. The guy had every right to confront him for being unfair. The officers man handeled him and he hadnt touched them at all. That my friend is ASSAULT.

OK. I hate to be the schoolmarm here, but here's the law. An 'assault" is not a "battery." Assaulting someone is doing a physical act (raising a fist, moving toward someone aggressively) that puts someone in fear of a battery.

A "battery" is touching another person without their consent- usually that means a punch or smack os some sort, but can be as simple as patting someone on the head, so long as it was without consent.

Finally, (and, as a defense attorney, I am no apologist for the police in general) the police do have broader powers (or "rights", loosely) to put their hands on people in furtherance of making an arrest, investigating what they reasonably suspect is criminal activity or protecting the public.

So, when it comes to the police keeping the peace, touching someone is not criminal or civil battery.

[zeluiz22]

"What line does it cross. They were not likely on duty. They were hired as security in an off-duty capacity. City's do not normally pay to protect merchants when they have sales. When you see a cop doing security like that, it is usually just like that, as a security guard. They are getting paid by the store to work there. If the store chose to give them an iPhone for part of that compensation whose business is it besides theirs and the store."

As for you, Marksman, using your influence as a public official of any kind to get benefits that the general public cannot (from private or public entities) is in fact a crime, although usually ignored. It also violates internal police codes of conduct and can (and should) lead to termination.

More importantly it is unethical and also just looks bad, which deteriorates the public trust in government and, in this case, police in general.

[mav]

Were they Miami Vice?

[zeluiz22]

Were they Miami Vice?

Don Johnson, naturally, gets a pass.

[Spin This!]

That's sucks... for every cool cop, there's 10 more crooked ones that abuse their powers. I have zero respect for officers that power trip like that. Everyone who counters me on saying that always say things like "I wouldn't want to be a cop.... they have a hard job." I agree but nobody's pointing a gun to their hand forcing them to be a cop.

That's a real shame you got suckered into deleting the video—I guess those "cops" didn't want to be posted all over YouTube for acting stupid.

Watch eBay for those phones to show up...

[mav]

Don't let one bad act give cops and the great city of Miami a bad name.

[Lazarus]

I don't let one, I let several

[hitnrun]

Only in Miami does this kinda of shyt happen. Listen to this and forgive my typing cuz my hands our shaking like crazy due to all the trauma the cops caused me. 1st the facts, they came out at 6pm and said they had only 50 and I was #46 in line so I was kool. so at 6pm they let in the 1st batch of people to buy the iPhone (they also said 2 per person so most of us before 50 we're worried to say the least also 3 Miami Beach COP cars had been posted outside 2 COPS per car since 5:30pm for "crowd control" so we thought) and 1 COP went in also, no big deal at the time no one payed it any mind but low and behold 15min later a couple of proud new iPhone owners walk out with a little bag that bought 1 and 2 little bags that bought 2.
Needless to say they were happy as hell and practically ran to their car. Well 5min after that the COP comes out with a HUGE bag so the next guy in line confronts the COP saying "hey how are you able to buy what looked like to us 6 iPhones" givin the number of COPS that were there without waiting in line? I have been here since 9am. that COP made a mad dash past him got in the car and took off, while the COPS physically man handled him throwing him out of line up against the cop car asking him "Why are you harassing that officer?"
meanwhile I am recording all of this on my cell and like a dumbass not trying to hide the fact. Well 1 COP noticed and did the same to me threw me up against the cop car demanding me to hand over my phone, well after a long 2min of wrestling him he told the other officer to help him put the handcuffs on me. With that said I gave up and told him plz I will delete it look. So i did and he let me go.
I jumped back in line to my 46th spot and by the time I did turned around and all the COPS took off with their lights on only. So to make a long story short, to late I know. Remeber they said they had 50 and I was #46 well when it came time for me to walk in the door and buy one they said we are sold out. So at that point we all in line figured it out that the COPS were not there for crowd control (even tho AT&T had their own security officer there) they were just there to buy 6 iPhones, my iPhone.
Needless to say I will be crying for the next couple of days or weeks it might be till I receive mine. Anybody else got a story to tell? Misery loves company ya know.

My BS meter has just pegged.:rolleyes:

There are two sides to every story. Unlike some folks that are quick to jump on the poster's bandwagon, I will refrain from judging anyone else, REGARDLESS of profession, and absent direct evidence until I hear from each side. To do otherwise would be rash and imprudent.

[Lazarus]

you must be 1 of the cops, well you would be singing a different tune if they would of let me keep the video now wouldn't you.

[jptolife]

WOW, that really sucks. The ones who should be setting the example come and do this? Not acceptable. The store is also not doing the right thing here, they shouldn't do this type of things... this is really not cool.

[hitnrun]

you must be 1 of the cops, well you would be singing a different tune if they would of let me keep the video now wouldn't you.



YES! Clearly because I didn't side with you (or the cops involved), I must be one of the cops involved! Try to follow along slowly if you have to... This is why my BS meter is still pegged. That and your blatant inability to form a logical argument.

[tharmsen]

I would file a complaint with the department, then notify your local paper about the story. If what you say is true that's a clear case of police harrassment.

[JSchu22]

I'd be willing to bet that Marksman is or was affiliated with law enforcement and like many of those who are corrupt (which I certainly do not believe is all police) think the ignorance of the general public will save them from repercussion.