View Full Version : How to take an iPhone to a school where phones are banned?
danielspencer2
12-25-2007, 05:04 PM
I have been reading that some high schools in the usa have banned cell phones and some have metal detectors when students enter the school. So will the iPhone set off a metal detector? If so, if you put the iPhone inside a box will the metal detector still go off?
kdarling
12-25-2007, 05:06 PM
Why take a chance on losing your iPhone at a school that might confiscate it (or someone steal it)?
Leave it at home.
So will the iPhone set off a metal detector?
Yes.
If so, if you put the iPhone inside a box will the metal detector still go off?
Yes.
The only way to make an iPhone not set off a metal detector is to not pass it through. :)
acosmichippo
12-25-2007, 05:30 PM
well, there is a ton of metal in it, so if the detectors are halfway decent, they will find it.
Elbacanazo920
12-25-2007, 07:23 PM
don't take the chance. The dean might try to keep it for himself and say he never got it I'd someone came in his office and stole it. (could happen)
Lincoln
12-25-2007, 07:54 PM
Just don't take it. Simple.
- John
scandalex
12-25-2007, 08:01 PM
Why take a chance on losing your iPhone at a school that might confiscate it (or someone steal it)?
Leave it at home.
Great answer!!! Why take the chance unnecessarily? And it seems like these days, they're not looking to confiscate the lil cheapie phones- but the most expensive ones- and then hold on to them until the end of the year.
I've quite a few friends, that upon learning their kids phone was taken, showed up at the school before the teacher had a chance to stash it, and retrieved it.
Personally, I think it BS that a child cant have their phones in school. I live in Killadelphia where the murder rate in the middle of Dec. was 369!
Instead of worrying if children are carrying phones, concentrated efforts should be placed on all the guns that get it.
Medeiros2227
12-25-2007, 08:28 PM
seiously you just asked if a METAL phone will be detected by a METAL detector ... Hmm seems silly , the onpy way they wont find it is if you put it in a lead box . And you shouldnt leave it at home , you bought it to use it .
kokogirl
12-25-2007, 08:35 PM
Sneaking a phone into school when it is not allowed does not seem like a good idea. If you think the rules are unfair, then make an intelligent decision to try to change them. Write the school board, get signatures, get your parents involved etc.
I have no idea why you cannot have a phone in school (my kids can if I sign a waiver and they keep them off during school hours). It seems like a good rule to try to get changed. You can make a difference if you go do it the right way.
acosmichippo
12-25-2007, 08:42 PM
a lot of schools disallow cell phones to prevent drug dealing... and a more practical reason because they're a distraction... texting or watching videos while in class isn't very helpful in an educational environment.
seiously you just asked if a METAL phone will be detected by a METAL detector ... Hmm seems silly , the onpy way they wont find it is if you put it in a lead box . And you shouldnt leave it at home , you bought it to use it .
He said a metal detector, not an x-ray machine. The metal detector would see both the phone and the box. :)
ColsTiger
12-25-2007, 11:46 PM
The chance of cheating on exams is the reason schools are banning text messaging. We collect them on testing days and then return them after the tests.
dimensiondvdrob
12-26-2007, 12:05 AM
seiously you just asked if a METAL phone will be detected by a METAL detector ... Hmm seems silly , the onpy way they wont find it is if you put it in a lead box . And you shouldnt leave it at home , you bought it to use it .
I went through the metal detectors at Staples Center (where the Lakers play) and had my iPhone in my pocket and the detector did not go off. I attribute it to the following:
Maybe the metal detector at Staples Center was not set to mega-sensitive, or maybe the iPhone has more aluminum in it, which from my experience is not as sensitive to the machines as steel, etc.
scandalex
12-26-2007, 12:11 AM
In my experience, usually by the time a decision has been made to "ban" it's due to outright abuse and almost the only way for teachers/principle/administrators to gain any control.
iMack
12-26-2007, 04:07 AM
The chance of cheating on exams is the reason schools are banning text messaging. We collect them on testing days and then return them after the tests.
hahah my teacher tried pulling this on us last year,i never gave her my cellphone, i just said i do not have one,and then pull mine out right when class was over while walking out the door so she could see :laugh2: and i did it everytime hahaa, i dont think teachers have the right to frisk us for cellphones so i shall keep doing this until that happens :smile:
i dont think teachers have the right to frisk us for cellphones so i shall keep doing this until that happens :smile:
Far be it from me to condone doing something that's against policy, but as a parent, I can assure you that the day a teacher frisks one of my kids will be the last day that teacher teaches.
Novembers Paul
12-26-2007, 04:26 AM
Far be it from me to condone doing something that's against policy, but as a parent, I can assure you that the day a teacher frisks one of my kids will be the last day that teacher teaches.
Sadly, these days the school board would certainly take the side of the teacher. You're best option would be to enroll your child in a private school. Public schools can get away with a lot due to the way kids are these days. I agree with you though, if my daughter was frisked, I would raise hell, and do all I could for the board to take action.
Sadly, these days the school board would certainly take the side of the teacher. You're best option would be to enroll your child in a private school. Public schools can get away with a lot due to the way kids are these days. I agree with you though, if my daughter was frisked, I would raise hell, and do all I could for the board to take action.
I wouldn't lie down that easy. That school board would be on the dark side of a massive election campaign revolving around teachers taking liberties with students in what should be a parental matter. And let's not forget the litigation and, depending on the circumstances, the criminal complaint.
I don't care about the other kids and how their parents (do not) raise them. The teacher doesn't get to lump my kid in with them until I've been given a chance to deal with the behavior issue and have failed to correct it.
Sorry for the rant, but parental responsibility is a hot-button issue with me. Now back to your regularly scheduled iPhone discussion already in progress.
stevetim
12-26-2007, 11:54 AM
There is a fair amount of metal in an iPhone.
I think most detectors are set to find the density of metal found in a knife or a gun. Half of the iPhone is glass, plastic, and circuit board silicon.
You could carry a couple dollars worth of quarter in your pocket to see just how sensitive the detector is, but I would honestly leave the phone at home. Once some envious student sees it, they may have a big mouth and the whole campus will soon know you snuck a phone in.
My son is in the 3rd grade, and I see many other students who have them. In fact even in his 2nd grade class.
His school (1000 students) does not have metal detectors
bllzll
12-26-2007, 01:26 PM
a teacher cant just frisk you down.. but being on school property your locker, your car and anything on you is always subject to being searched.. so they could DEFINANTELY search your pockets and stuff if phones are banned and they think you have one... its rediculous that you cant have a phone on you.. sometimes kids need them to call their parents after school and stuff..
as far as the metal detector goes.. just bring a gun with you to school.. that way they will find that, and not even worry about the fact that you have a phone in your pocket... and if they find your phone... well, you have a gun
hah
iCafe
12-26-2007, 01:33 PM
i cant imagine being told what to do.
Napoleon_PhoneApart
12-26-2007, 04:59 PM
seiously you just asked if a METAL phone will be detected by a METAL detector ... Hmm seems silly , the onpy way they wont find it is if you put it in a lead box . And you shouldnt leave it at home , you bought it to use it .
I bought a car, too, but I'm leaving it outside the school...
Napoleon_PhoneApart
12-26-2007, 04:59 PM
i cant imagine being told what to do.
How old are you, iCafe?
dimensiondvdrob
12-26-2007, 05:12 PM
as far as the metal detector goes.. just bring a gun with you to school.. that way they will find that, and not even worry about the fact that you have a phone in your pocket... and if they find your phone... well, you have a gun
hah
Now that is funny s#!t!
dimensiondvdrob
12-26-2007, 05:13 PM
Sorry for the rant, but parental responsibility is a hot-button issue with me.
I agree with you! I am not a parent, but parental responsibility is definitely a hot-button issue with me as well.
I am a parent, my son is in the 3rd grade and just turned 9 on the 10th, and I have worked in the classroom twice a month since kindergarten, and there are many kids since 2nd grade with phones, but I never see them in the classroom. The kids are responsible and I could easily give one of my phone to my son now, but my responsiblity is to evaluate if he needs one, and I just do not see it at the moment. The school is throwing all kinds of learning things at them and they are growing up so fast at an early age.
So I have to evaluate when I give him one.
Sleeper
12-26-2007, 06:00 PM
Far be it from me to condone doing something that's against policy, but as a parent, I can assure you that the day a teacher frisks one of my kids will be the last day that teacher teaches.
Would you condone your kid lying to their teacher if they did have their phone then?
Would you condone your kid lying to their teacher if they did have their phone then?
Nope, not at all. But the problem is mine to address, not the school's. If they think that my kid has a hidden phone despite denials, the first thing they should do is haul my kid to the office and call myself or my wife to ask if my kid HAS a cell phone at all. If so, then put me on the phone with my kid and I'll straighten it out. If it turned out that it was true, bye-bye cell phone, and the school can impose detention or whatever they deem appropriate for such violations. But frisking? Hell no. Even the police can't frisk you unless they have probable cause - in the two states I have lived in, anyway.
iCafe
12-27-2007, 01:23 AM
How old are you, iCafe?
................22
Scottshotz
12-27-2007, 02:27 AM
(to the original poster) why don't you try telling em its an iPod touch?
OJsakila
12-27-2007, 05:59 AM
why don't you try "learning" something in school for a change instead of playing with your toys? Here in lies the problem with today's youth...
J/k. Children will be children...
Sleeper
12-27-2007, 07:57 AM
Nope, not at all. But the problem is mine to address, not the school's. If they think that my kid has a hidden phone despite denials, the first thing they should do is haul my kid to the office and call myself or my wife to ask if my kid HAS a cell phone at all. If so, then put me on the phone with my kid and I'll straighten it out. If it turned out that it was true, bye-bye cell phone, and the school can impose detention or whatever they deem appropriate for such violations. But frisking? Hell no. Even the police can't frisk you unless they have probable cause - in the two states I have lived in, anyway.
Fair enough. Can't argue with that.
Mackjr
12-27-2007, 10:50 AM
I actually have a iphone that I bring in to school with me every day, just because it is my phone and I need to contact people after school. There are no metal detectors at my school, and about it getting stolen, its just like any other phone. Dont flash it around, and dont walk down dark alleys alone with it. Plus, its slim enough that it isnt noticeable in your pocket, and i even have a pretty bulky case for it and no one notices. As for it getting taken away by school people, the polivy for my school at least is taht you just can get it back at the end of the week.
jjvaldez
12-27-2007, 11:33 AM
i agree with the ipod touch thing, just tell them that it is a ipod ....
meiphones_brill
12-27-2007, 01:26 PM
I'm a governor of a school that has students from the age of 5 up to 19. We encourage our children to carry a mobile phone. The mobile phone is one of the most efficient safety aids a child or young adult can possess. If a teacher has control of a class, phones aren't a problem.
Ramesh
12-27-2007, 03:52 PM
I'm a governor of a school that has students from the age of 5 up to 19. We encourage our children to carry a mobile phone. The mobile phone is one of the most efficient safety aids a child or young adult can possess. If a teacher has control of a class, phones aren't a problem.
Luckily, I went to a private school and graduated before this mass hysteria of children w/cell phones. Personally, my children will get phone when they can pay for one (says the guys with no kids :laugh2:). I agree w/JoeT in this. Call the parents first, don't touch my kid.
On Topic just don't bring it to school.
iCafe
12-27-2007, 03:54 PM
this should be moved to the children forum
danielspencer2
12-30-2007, 08:14 PM
what about wrapping the iphone in tinfoil and putting it in your bag. won't that beat the school's metal detectors?
meiphones_brill
12-30-2007, 08:16 PM
what about wrapping the iphone in tinfoil and putting it in your bag. won't that beat the school's metal detectors?
THINK!!!!!!!!!! Brains are wonderful things.
jjvaldez
12-30-2007, 08:20 PM
i suggested the ipod thing but got no response, what HS do you do to , and if you dont want to tell that then where is it . like in what state??
i know that there are no phones allowed but i have not heard of metal detectors...
Napoleon_PhoneApart
12-30-2007, 09:05 PM
THINK!!!!!!!!!! Brains are wonderful things.
But isn't tinfoil an alloy of plastic and Marmite?
Dang if my school did that I'd be so pissed, it's actually the opposite at mine, they just started to allow phones durng school hours.
meiphones_brill
12-30-2007, 09:14 PM
Polymarmelite!. Napoleon, lend me your motorbike quick. I've got to get to the patent office before it shuts.
skinsgamer
12-30-2007, 11:56 PM
we don't have metal detectors but I have my old phone with me. If my iPhone goes off I can just give them my old phone. Now that's good thinking.
JoHnOfDaDeAd
12-30-2007, 11:58 PM
Just click iPod, and say it is an iPod lol:p
But seriously don't do it.
Napoleon_PhoneApart
01-01-2008, 02:25 PM
Polymarmelite!. Napoleon, lend me your motorbike quick. I've got to get to the patent office before it shuts.
On second thought, just have the OP coat his iPhone with Marmite. Nobody will go near it.
monkeysrock0622
01-01-2008, 07:06 PM
Just click iPod, and say it is an iPod lol:p
But seriously don't do it.
hahaha i would so do that, but in my school we arent allowed to have iPods at all. but i have no need for that cause we are allowed to have iPhones since technically it is a phone. so im one of the few in the school that can listen to their "iPod" during school ithout getting it taken away =]
in my hs we are allowed to have them as long as they are turned off. but nobody follows that rule. every one txts during class, and depending on the teacher, we txt right in front of their faces lol
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