View Full Version : Apple loves the kids
Bhay99
10-29-2007, 12:09 PM
http://cbs13.com/topstories/local_story_104012157.html
LOL
spampy22
10-29-2007, 01:11 PM
im a parent myself and i am shocked to think that this girls parents would expect a billion dollar company to responed in a personal letter. Some parents just are so stupid and now the girl is hurt by it. FYI, next time try explaining to your kids what may happen just in case.
Ramesh
10-29-2007, 02:10 PM
im a parent myself and i am shocked to think that this girls parents would expect a billion dollar company to responed in a personal letter. Some parents just are so stupid and now the girl is hurt by it. FYI, next time try explaining to your kids what may happen just in case.
This made me laugh out loud. Totally agree with you here.
scandalex
10-29-2007, 02:37 PM
im a parent myself and i am shocked to think that this girls parents would expect a billion dollar company to responed in a personal letter. Some parents just are so stupid and now the girl is hurt by it. FYI, next time try explaining to your kids what may happen just in case.
I think its what the response entailed that has the mom quite put out. Maybe she did expect a nice warm and fuzzy letter from Apple; but that isnt what her daughter got.
Personally, I dont see where mom was in the wrong. Children write to companies all the time; they just dont get the kind if response this child got.
jaydoc1
10-29-2007, 02:47 PM
im a parent myself and i am shocked to think that this girls parents would expect a billion dollar company to responed in a personal letter. Some parents just are so stupid and now the girl is hurt by it. FYI, next time try explaining to your kids what may happen just in case.
First off, schools do these kind of projects with kids all the time. Yes the parents should have warned the child that it was likely the letter would not be responded to. But hey, way to show how your company is waaay friendlier and "less corporate" than Microsoft, Apple. Maybe they can incorporate this into their next "I'm a Mac, I'm a PC commercial." It could go something like this:
"Hi I'm a Mac and I freaking HATE kids who use my company's products and have useful suggestions about them."
"..." (PC guy just stares at him and edges nervously off camera)
Nice one.
jaydoc1
10-29-2007, 02:48 PM
Still buying an iMac, though. All corporations are *******s. Wish I owned one (a corporation) so I could be one too! :smile:
mittenman
10-29-2007, 02:49 PM
Sounds like a cookie-cutter response that anyone would get if they wrote a letter of this sort. Just because she's young doesnt make her any different. As stated, they do not take unsolicited ideas.
Mangoiphone
10-29-2007, 02:50 PM
I feel the letter could have been nicer definitely. However, let's analyze how many people make suggestions daily. It becomes bothersome. I design websites and many times I receive so many suggestions on one specific project that I end up telling people off. Just imagine, one of my recent websites is a hotel in Las Vegas with over 50 departments and over 300 pages. If I had to listen to every suggestion I would never finish the job. Comes a time when you just tell people to get off your back.
The letter by Apple was definitely uncalled for, nevertheless!
Never idealize a company like the woman did. Apple is educational? Sure. They just don't know how to write letters.
Ramesh
10-29-2007, 02:58 PM
I feel the letter could have been nicer definitely. However, let's analyze how many people make suggestions daily. It becomes bothersome. I design websites and many times I receive so many suggestions on one specific project that I end up telling people off. Just imagine, one of my recent websites is a hotel in Las Vegas with over 50 departments and over 300 pages. If I had to listen to every suggestion I would never finish the job. Comes a time when you just tell people to get off your back.
The letter by Apple was definitely uncalled for, nevertheless!
Never idealize a company like the woman did. Apple is educational? Sure. They just don't know how to write letters.
Let's go out on a limb, and say this girl typed out this letter, and didn't state her age. For all we know, Apple could have thought this letter came from someone older. Yes, perhaps the letter could be nicer from Apple, but people need to have a realistic expectation instead of having their heads up their... well you know.
minivini
10-29-2007, 03:06 PM
Wow, Apple's stock may be through the roof right now, but in the past four or five months they've gotten more bad press than most companies could handle! I'd hate to be on their PR team - talk about having to work 24/7...
iamtko
10-29-2007, 03:22 PM
are you serious?...
this "news story" pisses me off so much..
first of all, this is a corporation, not a letter to grandma. do you really expect apple to hand write an explanation to this 9 yr old explaining the legal process behind this?! seriously.. what the little girl got was a standardized letter to what she sent.
and would she rather apple steal her idea, make millions off of it, and the her not see ONE DIME? yeah that would be something to cry about.
and just an fyi little girl, i thought of that **** when i got my first gen iPod. YOU STOLE THAT IDEA FROM ME!
it's all whatever though. you can say that a corporation is "mean" because it doesn't nicely put this girl down.
and actually the only thing that really made me mad was that this was on television as a newstory at all. and also how the "adults" acted..
RAWR~
Mangoiphone
10-29-2007, 03:26 PM
Wow, Apple's stock may be through the roof right now, but in the past four or five months they've gotten more bad press than most companies could handle! I'd hate to be on their PR team - talk about having to work 24/7...
I agree with you. Even the strongest comapny can't benefit from so much bad publicity. The $200 discount was enough to create detractors out of otherwise loyal clients/fans. Someone is screwing up out there and it may be the Jobster himself!
iamtko
10-29-2007, 03:30 PM
Someone is screwing up out there and it may be the Jobster himself!
in this case it is his fault since he didn't waste his time writing back to a 9yr old girl instead of trying to improve upon the lack of CUT&PASTE.
FlyersPhanatic9
10-29-2007, 04:17 PM
Honestly, her PARENTS should have known better than to get their little girls hopes up about this.
This made me laugh, good read.
OJsakila
10-29-2007, 04:47 PM
If you listen to the story to the end it mentions that Apple is making changes for this sort of thing and their policy will change. Apple even called and apologized to the little girl...
Nothing wrong with the child writing these letters. Shame on you that don't think so. She certainly shouldn't have expected too much but there is nothing wrong with letters.
I wrote President Carter when I was a kid and it took forever but i got some mail back from the White House. Pretty cool...
Ramesh
10-29-2007, 05:02 PM
If you listen to the story to the end it mentions that Apple is making changes for this sort of thing and their policy will change. Apple even called and apologized to the little girl...
Nothing wrong with the child writing these letters. Shame on you that don't think so. She certainly shouldn't have expected too much but there is nothing wrong with letters.
I wrote President Carter when I was a kid and it took forever but i got some mail back from the White House. Pretty cool...
Nothing wrong with her writing, I think it's funny that they didn't expect a letter like this. Would you expect a letter from Steve Jobs, if you had an idea to make the phone better? The only reason this is "news" is because the girl was 9 (I think). And again, in my prior post, perhaps Apple didn't know the letter came from a little girl. Even so, should she have gotten a letter saying:
"Dear Little Girl of 9 Years of Age,
I thank you so much for your letter to me, Steve Jobs. I didn't realize that the Nano didn't have a sing along version for your Disney tracks. I am glad you brought that to my attention. Here is $100 credit for your next Apple purchase. I applaud you, Little Girl of 9 Years of Age, for your ability to see a feature that is so awesome and then to write me a letter about it.
God bless you, your family, and America,
Steve Jobs"
:laugh2:
iamtko
10-29-2007, 05:19 PM
"Dear Little Girl of 9 Years of Age,
I thank you so much for your letter to me, Steve Jobs. I didn't realize that the Nano didn't have a sing along version for your Disney tracks. I am glad you brought that to my attention. Here is $100 credit for your next Apple purchase. I applaud you, Little Girl of 9 Years of Age, for your ability to see a feature that is so awesome and then to write me a letter about it.
God bless you, your family, and America,
Steve Jobs"
:laugh2:
lmfao.
um the nano also doesn't have a the karaoke function.
she should ge a scholarship or something. the little genius.. XP
jaydoc1
10-29-2007, 05:26 PM
None of you ever had an assignment to write a letter to a company when you were in school? Really? It's usually standard fare in an economics or sociology course. Again this doesn't mean you should expect to get a nicey-nice letter back from those corporations but you all act as if the parents and the kids were idiots for this letter being written.
Customer feedback, folks. Wave of the future! (doesn't really matter how old the kid was)
jjvaldez
10-29-2007, 05:29 PM
how was apple soposed to know that this was a legit 3rd grader that was sending the letter...
if it helps her. JOBS never replies to my emails.... :(
Lincoln
10-29-2007, 05:30 PM
True, you can't really expect to get a personal letter back from a leading billion dollar company's CEO.
I suspect Steve never even saw the letter - it probably arrived, was read through, sent to the legal department, and they replied. I'm sure he's heard about in now, but I doubt he was ever even notified in the process. I'd bet money that it wasn't the first time a kid's written to him.
cdinca
10-29-2007, 05:47 PM
If you listen to the story to the end it mentions that Apple is making changes for this sort of thing and their policy will change. Apple even called and apologized to the little girl...
Nothing wrong with the child writing these letters. Shame on you that don't think so. She certainly shouldn't have expected too much but there is nothing wrong with letters.
I wrote President Carter when I was a kid and it took forever but i got some mail back from the White House. Pretty cool...
Yeah...I wrote Reagan, and got a nice little generic letter back.
If Steve Jobs is gonna be a rock star, he has to get some new form letters.
Ramesh
10-29-2007, 06:17 PM
None of you ever had an assignment to write a letter to a company when you were in school? Really? It's usually standard fare in an economics or sociology course. Again this doesn't mean you should expect to get a nicey-nice letter back from those corporations but you all act as if the parents and the kids were idiots for this letter being written.
Customer feedback, folks. Wave of the future! (doesn't really matter how old the kid was)
To answer your question - No, I didn't have to do that in school as an assignment. I'm not making fun of the kid and parents for writing it, I'm making fun of their shock.
And yes, the age matters here, otherwise this wouldn't even be "news" to begin with! To top it off, make her confined to a wheel chair, have one eye, and the unable to say any word with the letter "L" in it, and THEN Jobs would be voted straight to hell.
Again - the age is key here. 43 year old male writes a letter, gets the same thing, and what? We get a national story out of it?
--all written in good fun--
Ramesh
10-29-2007, 06:45 PM
HAHAHA, ok, so I watched the clip, and didn't just read the story. So this "child wonder" did appear to have hand written the letter to Apple. So, I am wrong on that. So while the letter could have been nicer, I think Apple as a company still needs to cover its butt and state they do no want ideas nor are soliciting ideas. Someone pointed out - what happens if they are like "hmmm great idea. Let's do that." Prodigy child doesn't get any money or kick-back, prodigy child's mom gets mad and sues Apple saying it was her prodigy child's idea.
Ok, I think I'm done with this horse. :D
x999x
10-29-2007, 07:01 PM
Theres a story about Steve Jobs in a similar situation as a kid. Apparently he phoned HP with regards to some hardware he had that was made by them, he couldn't sort something out and managed to get a hold of the top brass for some answers. Stevie was only 12 at the time.
Astounded, they humored his call, gave him the answers he was looking for and even hooked him up with a summer job.
Karma.
Does anyone believe in that anymore?
Ramesh
10-29-2007, 07:06 PM
Theres a story about Steve Jobs in a similar situation as a kid. Apparently he phoned HP with regards to some hardware he had that was made by them, he couldn't sort something out and managed to get a hold of the top brass for some answers. Stevie was only 12 at the time.
Astounded, they humored his call, gave him the answers he was looking for and even hooked him up with a summer job.
Karma.
Does anyone believe in that anymore?
Earl :tounge:
jaydoc1
10-29-2007, 08:10 PM
HAHAHA, ok, so I watched the clip, and didn't just read the story. So this "child wonder" did appear to have hand written the letter to Apple. So, I am wrong on that. So while the letter could have been nicer, I think Apple as a company still needs to cover its butt and state they do no want ideas nor are soliciting ideas. Someone pointed out - what happens if they are like "hmmm great idea. Let's do that." Prodigy child doesn't get any money or kick-back, prodigy child's mom gets mad and sues Apple saying it was her prodigy child's idea.
Ok, I think I'm done with this horse. :D
Absolutely agree that Apple has to protect their own interests by not accepting unsolicited ideas. No question. You'd think they could afford a better P.R. department though. One that would at least tell their lawyers, "If you get a hand-written letter from a kid, try to sound nice when you crush their little dreams under our bootheel.":laugh2:
Ramesh
10-29-2007, 08:12 PM
Absolutely agree that Apple has to protect their own interests by not accepting unsolicited ideas. No question. You'd think they could afford a better P.R. department though. One that would at least tell their lawyers, "If you get a hand-written letter from a kid, try to sound nice when you crush their little dreams under our bootheel.":laugh2:
Ok, I'll agree with this post. No rebuttal here. :wink:
Bhay99
10-29-2007, 08:17 PM
not gonna fault Apple here, BUT
Don't you think they could have realized it was a 9 year old girl by the way the letter was presented and written? You'd think.
LoL, I'm 28 and I think I'd be pissed if I got a letter back like that, rather not see anything at all....:tounge:
"hmmm great idea. Let's do that." Prodigy child doesn't get any money or kick-back, prodigy child's mom gets mad and sues Apple saying it was her prodigy child's idea.
:D
Thanx for the idea!
I think I'll write apple now and suggest a 3G phone in the future and add cut/paste, ummm what else....
And by god if they ever release a new iphone with these features I'm gettin' paid! Or just sue.....
:wink:
Everyone has great points here, but the bottom line is Apple get something else to fix PR wise.
I doubt this will keep anyone from buying their products, but it definitely will make a large amount of consumers look at the corporation as the "Big Bad Wolf".
I do feel for the child however, who knows if the parents thought she would get a response. If I was the Mom, I would have never thought they would right back. Heck, I may have created my "own" letter and pretended to be Apple thanking her, and telling her to be good every day for her parents :laugh2:
But it definitely is a bummer for the little girl, that kind of response is pretty darn cold.
askewed
10-30-2007, 02:30 AM
The family is dumb... and looking for the spotlight. He writes back, thanks her and an idea that I'm sure someone at Apple has already had is lost. The second they add it this bunch of chuckleheads sue them.
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