I think I'm done.

[Daywalker7]

Everything in me is screaming WARNING when it comes to purchasing this Iphone.
Here we are a little over 2 weeks away from release and we still don't really know anything that we really need to know about this phone.
The only new thing we have learned since the introduction of this phone is the day we can buy it. Doesn't this concern anyone?
Nobody knows for sure what the data plans are going to be, nobody knows for sure what the price will be, even some of the features remain a mystery.
As a smart consumer, or just as someone about to make a major purchase of $600.00 it wouldn't be smart to blindly purchase something this expensive.
Making the consumer wait right up until the moment you walk up to the register to find out about your purchase is just disrespectful.
If I'm wrong, I'll be back here to eat some crow, but I don't think so.

[chris]

Everything in me is screaming WARNING when it comes to purchasing this Iphone.
Here we are a little over 2 weeks away from release and we still don't really know anything that we really need to know about this phone.
The only new thing we have learned since the introduction of this phone is the day we can buy it. Doesn't this concern anyone?
Nobody knows for sure what the data plans are going to be, nobody knows for sure what the price will be, even some of the features remain a mystery.
As a smart consumer, or just as someone about to make a major purchase of $600.00 it wouldn't be smart to blindly purchase something this expensive.
Making the consumer wait right up until the moment you walk up to the register to find out about your purchase is just disrespectful.
If I'm wrong, I'll be back here to eat some crow, but I don't think so.

I have to disagree. I think we know plenty about the iPhone. First off, it's an iPod, albeit only an 8GB iPod. If you look at the iPod portion, we've got a number of enhancements.

Coverflow
Widescreen
Larger screen

Next, it offers smartphone capabilities:

Able to sync contacts, calendars and music to your iPhone
Full POP email support
The "Real" Internet

Now, let's sprinkle a few new features that by all counts not many people have used. That doesn't diminish the excitement after seeing the demos:

Multitouch technology
Revloutionary phone interface
World class design


I also believe Apple is working hard to develop "Web widgets" to make for a more rich mobile web experience.

The possible pitfalls:

Will the keyboard rival QWERTY keyboards
Lack of 3G


All in all, I think it is worthy of the price. I also believe in Steve Jobs. This is Apple's next big thing and it's critical to their continued success. It hasn't been rushed and I believe he's making sure this thing delivers.

That's my 2 cents.

-Chris

[DaveNYC]

You've got a good point, but it's a good bet that before the 29th, we will be fully aware of all the features and price plans. I'm assuming we will be able to play with the store display that I'm hoping will be set up between now and then.

[Daywalker7]

My point is that we knew all the things you brought up when the phone was introduced.
The only new thing that we know for sure is the Jan 29th date of release.
It doesn't concern you that AT&T or Apple is making you wait till the very last second to tell you wether or not you will need a data plan and how much it will be?
What about camping out all night for it and being told that you are not eligible to buy the phone for whatever reason. Not saying this will be the case, but we don't know for sure. Every AT&T stoer I've been to is giving me a different answere.
As far as features, my main concern is the Iphone having AD2P because I am planning to purchase Bluetooth stereo headphones. There are a few other feature concerns but that is my main one.

[Daywalker7]

You've got a good point, but it's a good bet that before the 29th, we will be fully aware of all the features and price plans. I'm assuming we will be able to play with the store display that I'm hoping will be set up between now and then.

If AT&T is smart, they will keep that display phone behind bullet proof glass.
I've seen the way some people let children play with the display phones and drool all over them.

[Spin This!]

All in all, I think it is worthy of the price. I also believe in Steve Jobs.
I have to agree here. The iPod and phone capabilities in one device sold it for me (since I was already in the market for a new phone). The web browser/wi-fi combination was the icing on the cake. Apple's stamp of elegance certainly will make it worthwhile.

I'm a little worried about rumors flying around about data plans but I have a feeling all the current options will stay in place or we'll get even better options. The $499 and $599 price points will stay. They certainly can't be that arrogant and getting 10 million people to sign up, unless those 10 million are (rich) idiots or zealots. (10 million is 1/5 of AT&T's current subscriber base.) And the zealot thing seems to be non-issue... if that were the case, more than 50% of Macworld's subscribers would be getting the phone...

[brinox]

you know, you dont have to buy the iphone right when it comes out... i personally think the iphone is going to rock my socks off (among other things, err). but simply because we as outside straight-up consumers dont know ALL of the facts of the device shouldnt affect your judgement on the thing. thats just how i think and feel though - could be just me.

there is a lot more at work here than just the release of a revolutionary knew product/type of product. ive spoken about stocks and whatnot here once before, in a previous post. you are going to find that a LOT with situations like these.

Steve and his financial advisors are trying to keep the tight lip on this partly because there are certain features we STILL dont know about, and when they become known the plan will hopefully put more rise in the stock price of apple.

just my $.02

[Daywalker7]

[quote=brinox;11317]you know, you dont have to buy the iphone right when it comes out...

You are right. I think I will take that approach.
I am just as exited about this phone as anyone else here, but I'm also rational.
When someone keeps tight lipped about something it's because they have something to hide.
I guess I'll wait until I read or hear a few consumer reports on this thing before I rush out and buy it.

[Lips2000]

If AT&T is smart, they will keep that display phone behind bullet proof glass.
I've seen the way some people let children play with the display phones and drool all over them.

Sorry if I offend but...

Who says you have to buy it the day it comes out? Wait a bit, check it out in the store, play with your friend's iPhone and then decide for yourself.

Who knows, by the time you rationalize the purchase for yourself, it may have dropped in price and you can afford it.

As for me, I decided in January that is was the next phone for me...but that's just me. ;)

Mark

[brianhyp]

I have to disagree. I think we know plenty about the iPhone. First off, it's an iPod, albeit only an 8GB iPod. If you look at the iPod portion, we've got a number of enhancements.

That's my 2 cents.

-Chris
I agree chris. Apple is going to make sure this is going to be a success. If this phone is not the best phone on the market and ahead of its time it will fail and they know this. I know apple is not going to let that happen.
Im looking foward to the iPhone.
brian

[jamesdemien]

I can understand a bit of trepidation...I want that thing so F'ing bad I can't stand it.

I don't think apple is gonna release anything that has the potential to flop...they're way to safe and smart for that. Sure the battery may blow up or something but they've replaced all of those and generally make good on any problems.

Go for it...or wait a minute...maybe you're on to something... No one should get one to ensure there's one left for me. HA!

[Daywalker7]

[quote=Lips2000;11322]Sorry if I offend but...

Who knows, by the time you rationalize the purchase for yourself, it may have dropped in price and you can afford it.

If I couldn't afford the phone I wouldn't even think about buying it.
There is a difference between being able to afford something and just throwing your money away.
I am the type of person who likes to know all the facts before I make a purchase.

[hmlaa]

I can understand a bit of trepidation...I want that thing so F'ing bad I can't stand it.

I don't think apple is gonna release anything that has the potential to flop...they're way to safe and smart for that. Sure the battery may blow up or something but they've replaced all of those and generally make good on any problems.

Go for it...or wait a minute...maybe you're on to something... No one should get one to ensure there's one left for me. HA!

i have to agree with you! HOPEFULLY AS WE GET CLOSER AND CLOSER we will find out more and more about the release...i don't think apple will release anymore tech specs though...

[Saiko]

i have to agree with you! HOPEFULLY AS WE GET CLOSER AND CLOSER we will find out more and more about the release...i don't think apple will release anymore tech specs though...

Most of us are fine with the current tech specs - its the pricing, availability, and activation information that we NEED to know now. I'm sure we'll know more from them as we get closer to the 29th... Not to do so would be a very bad decision.

[hmlaa]

Most of us are fine with the current tech specs - its the pricing, availability, and activation information that we NEED to know now. I'm sure we'll know more from them as we get closer to the 29th... Not to do so would be a very bad decision.

yeah and apple has gotta be smarter than that

[jtlax3]

I agree with most of you. I really think that they will release more information in a week to a week and a half. Probably by the 22nd.

[ebrunn]

This isnt Apple's problem, its AT&T's. Apple is not going to make announcements like that, AT&T has to. So direct all your hate and rage towards them.

[ColsTiger]

This isnt Apple's problem, its AT&T's. Apple is not going to make announcements like that, AT&T has to. So direct all your hate and rage towards them.

Good point. apple sells the phone, but At&t sells the plan. We know when we can get the phone and how much it will cost. What we don't know, is how much it will cost to use it.:confused:

That sounds like At&t's fault to me.

[everythingiphone123]

I have to disagree. I think we know plenty about the iPhone. First off, it's an iPod, albeit only an 8GB iPod. If you look at the iPod portion, we've got a number of enhancements.

Coverflow
Widescreen
Larger screen

Next, it offers smartphone capabilities:

Able to sync contacts, calendars and music to your iPhone
Full POP email support
The "Real" Internet

Now, let's sprinkle a few new features that by all counts not many people have used. That doesn't diminish the excitement after seeing the demos:

Multitouch technology
Revloutionary phone interface
World class design


I also believe Apple is working hard to develop "Web widgets" to make for a more rich mobile web experience.

The possible pitfalls:

Will the keyboard rival QWERTY keyboards
Lack of 3G


All in all, I think it is worthy of the price. I also believe in Steve Jobs. This is Apple's next big thing and it's critical to their continued success. It hasn't been rushed and I believe he's making sure this thing delivers.

That's my 2 cents.

-Chris
yet you posted nothing about at&t's announcments, or lack of them...

[ebrunn]

Good point. apple sells the phone, but At&t sells the plan. We know when we can get the phone and how much it will cost. What we don't know, is how much it will cost to use it.:confused:

That sounds like At&t's fault to me.

Yeah, Apple has held up their end of the deal. The ball is in Att's court now.

[3dg]

Personally, having a "Mac" smartphone is worth the price for me. I've tried the Treo, the 8125, MDA, and Blackberry. They're all the same, and equally annoying. So, I welcome the Apple approach to this market.

[itsabouttime]

Everything in me is screaming WARNING when it comes to purchasing this Iphone.
Here we are a little over 2 weeks away from release and we still don't really know anything that we really need to know about this phone.
The only new thing we have learned since the introduction of this phone is the day we can buy it. Doesn't this concern anyone?
Nobody knows for sure what the data plans are going to be, nobody knows for sure what the price will be, even some of the features remain a mystery.
As a smart consumer, or just as someone about to make a major purchase of $600.00 it wouldn't be smart to blindly purchase something this expensive.
Making the consumer wait right up until the moment you walk up to the register to find out about your purchase is just disrespectful.
If I'm wrong, I'll be back here to eat some crow, but I don't think so.

There's a very simple solution to your problem...Don't get one. :wink:

[Cantwait4iPhone]

Everything in me is screaming WARNING when it comes to purchasing this Iphone.
Here we are a little over 2 weeks away from release and we still don't really know anything that we really need to know about this phone.
The only new thing we have learned since the introduction of this phone is the day we can buy it. Doesn't this concern anyone?
Nobody knows for sure what the data plans are going to be, nobody knows for sure what the price will be, even some of the features remain a mystery.
As a smart consumer, or just as someone about to make a major purchase of $600.00 it wouldn't be smart to blindly purchase something this expensive.
Making the consumer wait right up until the moment you walk up to the register to find out about your purchase is just disrespectful.
If I'm wrong, I'll be back here to eat some crow, but I don't think so.

If you are frustrated by the lack of information, I recommend waiting and seeing how it plays out. Give it at least a few weeks before you decide. Then you will be educated on whether you really want to give up or stay with it and get this phone. It is not a small investment, so second thoughts can be good in this kind of scenario.

Don't give up on us or the iPhone yet. I would recommend staying on this site, especially at the time of launch, so your questions will be answered and you will be well educated and on your way to a smart and reasonable choice.

[mav]

I have to disagree. I think we know plenty about the iPhone. First off, it's an iPod, albeit only an 8GB iPod. If you look at the iPod portion, we've got a number of enhancements.

All in all, I think it is worthy of the price. I also believe in Steve Jobs. This is Apple's next big thing and it's critical to their continued success. It hasn't been rushed and I believe he's making sure this thing delivers.

That's my 2 cents.

-Chris

However beyond this, what else do we know? Other than it is coming out on 6/29 at 6PM, not much else.

How will the iPhone be sold to current AT&T customers? No idea.

How will activation at the Apple Stores work? No idea.

What are the available data plans? No idea.

Are there any eligibility or qualification requirements? No idea.

The lack of information is very frustrating. I just hope the info will be coming soon.

[Daywalker7]

There's a very simple solution to your problem...Don't get one. :wink:

There is a simple solution to your nastiness, don't read my post.
I'm not saying that nobody should get one or that I don't want one.
I'm simply expressing my frustration over the lack of info.
Not getting angry, not attacking anyone.
Do you own Apple stock? Do you work for Apple?
Why such an ******** attitude towards someone expressing an opinion that is obviously shared by a few other people here?

[ColsTiger]

Let's be nice everybody. Chris will be closing this one too.

[TrippalHealicks]

There is a simple solution to your nastiness, don't read my post.
I'm not saying that nobody should get one or that I don't want one.
I'm simply expressing my frustration over the lack of info.
Not getting angry, not attacking anyone.
Do you own Apple stock? Do you work for Apple?
Why such an ******* attitude towards someone expressing an opinion that is obviously shared by a few other people here?

Do you? If so, where can I get a job, and how? lol

[ebrunn]

I thought this guy was "done" around 1pm yesterday afternoon? Kina thought he was done posting. Guess not.

[Daywalker7]

I thought this guy was "done" around 1pm yesterday afternoon? Kina thought he was done posting. Guess not.

I posted this today ******.
I love all the internet tough guys coming to defend a freakin phone.
Why is it that you asses can voice a concern but I can't?

[Macster]

The tough part of gathering all the facts about the iPhone and using it is the fact we are depending upon two large companys to provide inforamtion. unfortunately, both of these large companies have been tight-lipped when it comes to letting loose of the info. This has been the main source of my heartburn.

My approach, which sounds like the approach a lot of folks are planning on taking here, is to have others buy the 'holy grail' iPhone, use it, then post here on everythingiphone the good and bad. From what I have seen, I no doubt will get a good picture of the strengths and weaknesses. Then, when the lines die down at AT&T or the Apple Store, I will likely make my purchase, knowing full well what to expect out of the iPhone and AT&T, thanks to you folks who forged ahead before me.

The only reservation I have now is the data plan rate. I can almost swallow the $480 buck a year for myself, but I have to buy two, one for me, one for my wife. But, I will wait, be hopeful of a cheaper plan, and will see.

[itsabouttime]

I posted this today *******.
I love all the internet tough guys coming to defend a freakin phone.
Why is it that you asses can voice a concern but I can't?

No one is "attacking" you, I'm simply voicing my opinion as you did.
Keep in mind this is a pro-Apple site, so don't be so surprised when you get
posts disagreeing with you.
Your profanity is not allowed and not welcome here.

[ColsTiger]

this is getting worse and worse.

[chris]

Let's keep this on topic. The OP has every right to question whether the iPhone is worthy of his dollars. He's looking for reasons TO buy the iPhone. Please keep on topic, no personal attacks and no foul language.

Thanks!
Chris

[robhon]

I really get the feeling that everyone is coming to their wits end waiting for this product. Take heart folks!! We're coming around the last bend to our final destination. Soon we are going to be posting all about our first impressions of our new iPhones. We're going to talk about what it took to actually get our hands on one (who we had to beat up, pay off and sell our bodies to). We'll tell everyone how we felt opening the box, getting our service turned on or switched over, getting all our data uploaded... No more speculations at that point. It'll all be the real deal; what we're all experiencing and how we feel about it.

I keep saying this is a do or die product for Apple Inc. Their long term prospects are tied to the success of this product. I'm a long time Apple fan and hope that this product exceeds all of our expectations, and that there are even better versions on the horizon.

Just remember: We're almost there.

[everythingiphone123]

i have to agree with daywalker on this one... i think im done too :-D

[robhon]

i have to agree with daywalker on this one... i think im done too :-D

Me? I think I'm just getting started. :2cool:

Not gonna give up before they even open the starting gate.

[mav]

Daywalker isn't the only one who feels this way.

There are other threads on other Apple and iPhone forums, including Apple.com own discussion forums, expressing these same concerns over the lack of information and unknown variables.

[Daywalker7]

No one is "attacking" you, I'm simply voicing my opinion as you did.
Keep in mind this is a pro-Apple site, so don't be so surprised when you get
posts disagreeing with you.
Your profanity is not allowed and not welcome here.

I welcome a healthy debate. That's what message boards are all about.
I respect a difference of opinion.
What I can't respect is someone attacking me for voicing the same concerns that a lot of people have and then lying about it being a personal attack.
If you say something, stand behind it.

[chris]

I welcome a healthy debate. That's what message boards are all about.

I agree and on that note, let's get back to our regularly scheduled program.

This is not pointed at anyone specifically, but I'd like everyone to get back on topic or this thread will be closed.

Thanks!

-Chris

[Daywalker7]

I agree and on that note, let's get back to our regularly scheduled program.

This is not pointed at anyone specifically, but I'd like everyone to get back on topic or this thread will be closed.

Thanks!

-Chris

Maybe it would be best if you did just close this thread.

[wjp09]

No need if the debate is still alive and well, just keep it respectful

[Daywalker7]

No need if the debate is still alive and well, just keep it respectful

The problem is I'm the only one that gets attacked when I give an opinion, and I will not stop defending myself when attacked.
So lock this thread and someone else can start the exact same thread with my exact same opinion so that it can be discussed in a civil manner.
For some reason I cause a lot of hatred.

[chris]

The problem is I'm the only one that gets attacked when I give an opinion, and I will not stop defending myself when attacked.
So lock this thread and someone else can start the exact same thread with my exact same opinion so that it can be discussed in a civil manner.
For some reason I cause a lot of hatred.

As per your request, the thread has been locked.

For the record, no hatred here... I respect your views and you have every right to ask questions about the iPhone. I hope that you continue to be part of this community. This site is about the iPhone, but doesn't require you drink any Kool-Aid®. Debate is healthy.

-Chris