Live Post As We Listen To The Wwdc '07 Keynote

[WTEngel]

So I am setting up this thread for those of us listening live to the keynote address live to post big news and happenings during the keynote. This way anyone who can't connect on the server or who cannot listen at work can read the updates as we post them.

I figure we can start by posting quotes and other big information from the keynote, and once someone has announced on the thread that the keynote is over, we can begin discussing the specific points brought up in the keynote under new threads that are appropriately titled and categorized etc. Sound good to everyone?

[jphawkins]

Sounds good to me, but I bet Steve, if he says anything about the iPhone, won't say it until the very end.

I'm game.

[WTEngel]

Sounds good to me, but I bet Steve, if he says anything about the iPhone, won't say it until the very end.

I'm game.

What the heck, we will post it whether it is iPhone related or not, that way the folks can discuss it in the appropriate threads later...

[wot_fan]

Wouldn't it be easier just to go to MacRumors (http://www.macrumorslive.com/)?

[ColsTiger]

What the heck, we will post it whether it is iPhone related or not, that way the folks can discuss it in the appropriate threads later...

Yep. Glad I logged on at 12:30 instead of 12:45. The servers already maxed out.

[ColsTiger]

Damn! The music went off for about five seconds. I thought we were starting up. There it goes again. We're live!

[WTEngel]

Alright, the music has stopped, I can hear random voices now...sounds like things are fixing to begin

[ColsTiger]

Alright, the music has stopped, I can hear random voices now...sounds like things are fixing to begin

I hope it gets better than this.:frown:

[WTEngel]

It might be easier to go to Macrumors, but it is cooler to say we have live updates on EIP!

[jphawkins]

Alright, the music has stopped, I can hear random voices now...sounds like things are fixing to begin

It doesn't seem like this is going to work...

Wait...I can hear a voice!

[WTEngel]

Stev just stepped up and welcomed everyone, talking about the huge attendance...950,000 Apple developer connections

[Spin This!]

The audio stream sucks...

[WTEngel]

1200 Apple engineers at the conference to help developers...
asking everyone what they were talking about at WWDC '06

talking about all the challenges they overcame transitioning to intel processors

[ColsTiger]

It doesn't seem like this is going to work...

Wait...I can hear a voice!

Not too bad right now. I can hear Steve's welcome.

PC guy in video dressed as Steve Jobs with jeans and mock turtle neck.

[WTEngel]

I am using my Shure headphones, I can hear it alright, but yeah, it does suck...

[WTEngel]

He just called up the Intel CEO to the stage...

[WTEngel]

he is giving the Intel CEO an award for helping with the transition to the intel processors over the last year

[Spin This!]

fyi: the apple store is now down... new products here we come!

[jphawkins]

Games?

Partnership with EA

[WTEngel]

Intel CEO thank you speech was short and to the point...still no mention of the iPhone

Now he is talking abotu Electronic Arts gaming company coming back to the Mac "in a big way"

Electronic Arts guy is on stage talking now

[WTEngel]

Battlefield 2142 and Halo 3 I think coming to Mac. Need for Speed also...Harry Potter and the order of the Phoenix (wow, I can hear the nerds going nuts right now)

Now it sounds like they are demoing the Harry Potter game for the crowd, not sure

[jphawkins]

Command and Conquer 3 is coming to Mac...not Halo 3.

[WTEngel]

EA guy is off the stage now...

[WTEngel]

Anybody check if the AT&T store being updated...

[jphawkins]

Madden and Tiger Woods 08 coming in the fall

[WTEngel]

Someone is on stage talking about a program he has been working on for a while, some sort of image photo editing software, I could not hear exactly what he is talking about because of the feed...

[iPhoneObsessed]

Anybody check if the AT&T store being updated...

No updates there...

[WTEngel]

talking about 22 million Mac OS users currently...90% running the most current version

Now he is showing a final look at Leapord, which will ship in October

Leapord is shipping 21 months after the last revision of Tiger

[jphawkins]

Leopard Feature #1: New desktop

[Remain Nameless]

Keep it coming! :)

[ebrunn]

He's moved to Leopard now, if he was going to talk about it he would have by now.:frown:

[WTEngel]

Feature number 1 is old news

New desktop

He just showed an image that people laughed at, must have been a joke

Talked about everyone putting there own digital photos on the desktop anyway, so the stock desktop images aren't too necessary

something new to help cleanup desktops, I couldn't make out what it was called

[jphawkins]

Part of the desktop feature is something that cleans it up (icons and such)..I didn't grab the name though.

[WTEngel]

Sounds like the new desktop is a very friendly work space...

[jphawkins]

He's moved to Leopard now, if he was going to talk about it he would have by now.:frown:

Not really...they save the hype for last...just like they did with the iPhone when they announced it in January.

[jphawkins]

They Are Watching The Iphone Ad

[WTEngel]

He is showing a feature that organizes the movies and pics you have on your HD...he is showing an iPhone commerical right now...I can hear it in the background...

He just said "I think you have seen that!" to everyone as he showed that video...people laughed

He is showing some other vids now

[jphawkins]

They just watched the iPhone ad "Calimari"...

[ColsTiger]

leopard backgrounds look like vista.

[WTEngel]

Alright, he just did something cool...everyone clapped...LOL, wish I could tell you more!

[jphawkins]

Stacks is the thing on the right, which cleans up the desktop

http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.engadget.com/media/2007/06/dsc_5210.jpg

[WTEngel]

New feature makes it easier to browse and share files on networks. talking about .mac's "Back to my Mac" new feature...and some varioation of coverflow for the Leapord OS files and icons.

[WTEngel]

Anyone think the 12th icon might have something to do with "Back to my .Mac" ???

[ebrunn]

Damn the mac is awesome

[WTEngel]

"Back to my Mac" can connect to any computer you have the IP address for and have access to...i.e. all your Apple computers like work, home, school, etc.

[everythingiphone123]

just skip all this i just want to hear about the iphoneeee

[brianhyp]

hell yeah the new lepard uses core animation for the first time for visual effects and so does the os x for iphone

[WTEngel]

Steve was talking about .Mac connected to all his computers "Family mac, work mac, even that windows machine up in the attic..." LOL

[WTEngel]

Sounds like you might be able to search all of your computers simultaneously for a file remotely through .Mac now...

Very cool

[WTEngel]

Quicklook allows you to "infinitely" preview all of your files without opening the application. It communicates with all the popular apps on mac.

[Spin This!]

Steve wasn't kidding when he said .mac is going to be better.. I expect more updates in this department as well.

New Finder looks awesome...

[brianhyp]

just skip all this i just want to hear about the iphoneeee
patience my friend i have a feeling it will be worth the wait

[DMcGrew]

patience my friend i have a feeling it will be worth the wait

Bet he doesnt say jack about the iphone...

[WTEngel]

Leapord is 64 bit from top to bottom...

[ebrunn]

Leapord is 64 bit from top to bottom...

One version as well. pretty sick

[Spin This!]

Leapord is 64 bit from top to bottom...
That would mean new 64-bit hardware is iminent...

[WTEngel]

Yeah, take that Vista!

[ColsTiger]

Alright, he just did something cool...everyone clapped...LOL, wish I could tell you more!

Works pretty good if you watch the pic update on engadget.com (http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/11/steve-jobs-live-from-wwdc-2007/)while listening to the live audio feed. You can keep up with what he's talking about.

[WTEngel]

64 bit and almost every computer Apple ships is 64 bit capable...talk about a superior product

[brianhyp]

this is freaking boring he should just hand out a fully functional iphone to all members in the audience and anounce its on sale today with 5 millon units ready and by the way they changes the specs on the phone now its got a 5 megapixel camera, gps, 250 gigabite harddrive, 9.99 data plan and they droped the price to 99 dollars! (wakes up)

[WTEngel]

this is freaking boring he should just hand out a fully functional iphone to all members in the audience and anounce its on sale today with 5 millon units ready and by the way they changes the specs on the phone now its got a 5 megapixel camera, gps, 250 gigabite harddrive, 9.99 data plan and they droped the price to 99 dollars! (wakes up)

LMFAO! and Apple stock has gained $5,000 a share and he is offering every member of EIP 100,000 free shares


BTW he is talking about new bootcamp features

[WTEngel]

http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.engadget.com/media/2007/06/dsc_5250.jpg

10:42AM - "Very high production values, very low effort to add it -- it automatically brings in GPU acceleration. For the demo, if you've seen the Apple TV, we took the opening movie and made it live and interactive." This is insane, he's zooming over a grid of hundreds of live-playing videos. "I can search for this since it has tags... I'm gonna look for anything with water." They all swing to the front. Unreal!

From Engadget

[ebrunn]

He's already on #7 with about 40 mintues to go

[everythingiphone123]

this is freaking boring he should just hand out a fully functional iphone to all members in the audience and anounce its on sale today with 5 millon units ready and by the way they changes the specs on the phone now its got a 5 megapixel camera, gps, 250 gigabite harddrive, 9.99 data plan and they droped the price to 99 dollars! (wakes up)
hellz ya!!!!

[everythingiphone123]

He's already on #7 with about 40 mintues to go
number 7? huh?

[WTEngel]

New movie Widget for Leapord for finding movies and purchasing tickets on Fandango.com

[ebrunn]

number 7? huh?

hes showing #10 features of leopard

[Spin This!]

new widget: movie times....

I would be very surprised if that one didn't make it onto the iPhone.

[everythingiphone123]

hes showing #10 features of leopard
oo gotcha ty

[JeffBobula]

why would he not talk about the iphone at this? does he just assume we are already going to buy one...dangit!

[Spin This!]

why would he not talk about the iphone at this? does he just assume we are already going to buy one...dangit!
this is a mac developer's conference.... the iPhone is not a Mac.

[everythingiphone123]

the crowd should start chanting iphone...iphone...iphone...iphone...iphone...iphon e...iphone...iphone...iphone...

[JeffBobula]

good point...but technically it does run OSX...so its a surrogate Mac!

[ebrunn]

still alot of time left

[sammyb]

the crowd should start chanting iphone...iphone...iphone...iphone...iphone...iphon e...iphone...iphone...iphone...
Some times no news is good news:laugh2:

[ColsTiger]

why would he not talk about the iphone at this? does he just assume we are already going to buy one...dangit!

Saving best for last.:2cool:

[Spin This!]

I think new hardware will be last...

[ccarlson6]

Saving best for last.:2cool:
I feel like a little kid on Christmas Eve:2cool:

[ColsTiger]

The guy with the mic is in love.

[Daywalker7]

Unfortunately, I think we are all going to be real disapointed today.

[sammyb]

What time is this over may be i can go to work for an hour.

[ebrunn]

What time is this over may be i can go to work for an hour.

2:30 eastern

[sammyb]

Ok but its 2:02 now that does not leave much time to talk about any thing else

[everythingiphone123]

no iphone today...

[DMcGrew]

Almost done with Reotard...

[ebrunn]

no iphone today...

Nobody ever said their was going to be. We just want more info about it.

[WTEngel]

He is on feature # 10 already and he still has time left...he has to talk about SOMETHING. I refuse to believe he will make no mention of the iPhone today.

BTW He is talking about "Time Machine" a file recovery feature of any .mac enabled mac with Leapard.

[ebrunn]

What the hell was the point of all that? Their were zero new important features. What a waste of time.

[ColsTiger]

maybe not. give it some time.

[WTEngel]

everyone in attendance is getting a version of Leopard. Basic for 129.99, He just introduced premium version, I think they are the same version, same price and all..awesome! Just one version that supports everything.

[T-HAN]

What the hell was the point of all that? Their were zero new important features. What a waste of time.

Why do you say that? The back up is very important. Also the 64 bit is nice too...

[lasquintanas]

i read full version...

[ebrunn]

Ooooooooo, burn

Basic version:$129
Premium version:$129

:laugh2:

Have some ice Microsoft

[WTEngel]

He is talking about Safari now...

18 million users currently

Market share is 5% of all browsers.

Explorer is 78%

Firefox 15%

Other browsers 2%

[Youngbinks]

everyone in attendance is getting a beta version of Leopard. Basic for 129.99, He just introduced premium version, I think they are the same version, same price and all..awesome! Just one version that supports everything.

Yeah the same price for everything, that's awesome.....

[ebrunn]

Why do you say that? The back up is very important. Also the 64 bit is nice too...

We have known about backup for like 2 years now

[T-HAN]

How much is Vista?

[WTEngel]

i read full version...

I didn't hear full version, but I didn't hear beta either...I corrected my post to reflect that...thanks

[sammyb]

How much is Vista?
An Arm and a leg and your first born.

[ebrunn]

damn, safari on windows. I think that was the big news. No iPHone stuff today.:frown:

[WTEngel]

New Safari is twice as fast as M$ Internet explorer...and it is the fastest on any windows machine also...with Google and Yahoo search built in

[ColsTiger]

everyone in attendance is getting a version of Leopard. Basic for 129.99, He just introduced premium version, I think they are the same version, same price and all..awesome! Just one version that supports everything.

safari for windows.:laugh2:

[SmartAlx]

What about a comparison between Safari and Opera!

[WTEngel]

Safari on Windows, that is ice water for M$

[DMcGrew]

Firefox still rules just because of the awesome extensions

[SmartAlx]

Opera is the fastest browser on Windows. It's even faster than Safari on the Mac! It has never lost that race.

[ebrunn]

What about a comparison between Safari and Opera!

nobody uses that so nobody would care

[WTEngel]

Three versions of Safari

One for OSX

One for XP

One for Vista

All developers are getting the versions

[SmartAlx]

Firefox still rules just because of the awesome extensions
Wrong. Opera rules if you want a fast reliable small browser without having to set up .... oooo iphone.

[WTEngel]

IPHONE EVERYONE!!! Shipping on June 29th

[sammyb]

Windows who?

[ColsTiger]

iphone! HERE WE GO!

[WTEngel]

Talking about a solution for developers to make apps for it

A very sweet solution for deveopers...talking about it now

[everythingiphone123]

Yes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!

[lasquintanas]

iPhone!!!!!!!!!!!!11

[ColsTiger]

IphONE WITH FULL SAFARI.

[ebrunn]

damnnnn:laugh2::laugh2:

6pm on the 29th

[WTEngel]

The solution involves the fact that iPhone has full Safari on it

[everythingiphone123]

damn engadget post faster

[Spin This!]

yeh firefox is certainly a developer's best friend...

as a web developer, this is great news. Anything to help un-surp IE's reign on the market.

[WTEngel]

Developers can go live with thier apps on June 29th because all the info they need to write the apps is available now

iPhone software head is speaking now

[everythingiphone123]

6pm? so much for the campers

[DMcGrew]

yeh firefox is certainly a developer's best friend...

as a web developer, this is great news. Anything to help un-surp IE's reign on the market.

yeah gota love firebug and web dev toolbar

[T-HAN]

What does he mean by "ships"????

[Youngbinks]

damnnnn:laugh2::laugh2:

6pm on the 29th

But what does that mean? We don't be able to get it at opening on the 29th anymore?

[ebrunn]

6pm? so much for the campers

Ill still be at the store the night before

[sammyb]

But It wont be sold untill 6pm?

[everythingiphone123]

Ill still be at the store the night before
if it ships on the 29 that means stores wont get it till the 30th at the earliest

[WTEngel]

Wow, 6 P.M. It is going to be one hot day of waiting here in Texas. Maybe I can sell bottled water and make some money to buy my iPhone

[ColsTiger]

But It wont be sold untill 6pm?

I guess they don't want people camping out.

[ebrunn]

if it ships on the 29 that means stores wont get it till the 30th at the earliest

It is just like when they launched Leopard. You go to the store at 6pm buy it.

[WTEngel]

When they say ship that means the available date I do believe...

[lasquintanas]

trouble typing on the keyboard?

[Spin This!]

still doesn't rule out a pre-order option...

btw: the apple store is still down.

[sammyb]

Just said June 29

[WTEngel]

Leopard looks AMAZING...!!!

iPhone news....LAME!!!

[ColsTiger]

Guess it's over.

[sammyb]

Now its time to check out youtube

[everythingiphone123]

well that was a waste

[DMcGrew]

all that did was add to the confusion... so does that mean we can't get it until the 30th????? what a waste of time

[mc751n]

YAY for not clarifying ANYTHING.

[mav]

I'm disappointed. Jobs didn't clear up anything on activations, contracts, etc.

[JeffBobula]

6PM...sweet! Thats right when I get done with my internship at Epitaph...I'll just walk over to the store and buy it!

[everythingiphone123]

ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

[T-HAN]

This is making my head hurt...:frown:

[lasquintanas]

Yeah. We need some clarification fast on what all this means.

[iPhonematic]

Guess it's over.

So they are going to start selling the iPhone on June 29th @6pm ???

[JeffBobula]

and no, it ships on June 28th, iPhones will be available to buy on the 29th...remember what I said weeks ago...? not to be a dick, but they will be there at 6PM on the 29th

[T-HAN]

Can you tell it is many of ours first Developers Conference??? :wink:

[ColsTiger]

It is just like when they launched Leopard. You go to the store at 6pm buy it.

didn't think leopard had been launched yet?

[brianhyp]

taht was wack. now im more confused that before. it ships on the 29 at 6pm does that mean there going to sell it on the 29th or on the 30th am i gonna get in line on the 329th for 8 hours just to have them come out and tell me there not selling it until tommorow im very dissapointed

[Spin This!]

Just because Jobs didn't personally announce anything doesn't mean anything....

For one thing, the Apple store is still down. Apple could easily make another announcement/more details on the site.

[lasquintanas]

Usually when the word "shipped" is used, it means in the process of being delivered. That's why there is confusion.

[sammyb]

Is that only for Apple stores or ATT as well

[Spin This!]

The keynote was about what I expected... interesting there's no new hardware though... usually they announce something.

[ColsTiger]

this music still sucks!

[sammyb]

I think Im going to an ATT store now and see if they know anything.

[ColsTiger]

Is that only for Apple stores or ATT as well

He didn't specify. Damn! Listen hoping to get some more specific details and come away even more confused.:confused:

[stuart9682]

apple.com web site being updated as we speak with new Safari downloads

[sammyb]

Apple store up and running

[Juniaz]

Apple store back up!

[stuart9682]

cool new tabs!! droooll

[lasquintanas]

Im downloading Safari. Might as well give it a try.

[sammyb]

New pix on apple store http://www.apple.com/iphone/gallery/index5.html

[iPhonematic]

and no, it ships on June 28th, iPhones will be available to buy on the 29th...remember what I said weeks ago...? not to be a dick, but they will be there at 6PM on the 29th

Did they make this decision to sell it at 6pm so people won't camp out ??

[lasquintanas]

Super Fast.

[WTEngel]

New pix on apple store http://www.apple.com/iphone/gallery/index5.html

The iPhone looks smaller in the hand now than in any other ad pic I have seen yet. Suppose they were making it bigger to show it off in earlier ads and now they are showcasing the small size of it? Anyone else notice this?

Open these two links in seperate windows and compare side by side

Current AT&T ad with old pic
(http://www.wireless.att.com/cell-phone-service/specials/iPhone.jsp?source=IC9801j02R00n300&WT.mc_id=IC9801j02R00n300)
Apple ad with new pic (http://www.apple.com/iphone/gallery/index3.html)

[Juniaz]

The iPhone looks smaller in the hand now than in any other ad pic I have seen yet. Suppose they were making it bigger to show it off in earlier ads and now they are showcasing the small size of it? Anyone else notice this?

Open these two links in seperate windows and compare side by side

Current AT&T ad with old pic
(http://www.wireless.att.com/cell-phone-service/specials/iPhone.jsp?source=IC9801j02R00n300&WT.mc_id=IC9801j02R00n300)
Apple ad with new pic (http://www.apple.com/iphone/gallery/index3.html)

The first one looks like a lady holding the iPhone, and the second one looks like a guy with bigger hands holding it.

[jtlax3]

The iPhone looks smaller in the hand now than in any other ad pic I have seen yet. Suppose they were making it bigger to show it off in earlier ads and now they are showcasing the small size of it? Anyone else notice this?

Open these two links in seperate windows and compare side by side

Current AT&T ad with old pic
(http://www.wireless.att.com/cell-phone-service/specials/iPhone.jsp?source=IC9801j02R00n300&WT.mc_id=IC9801j02R00n300)
Apple ad with new pic (http://www.apple.com/iphone/gallery/index3.html)

wow, it looks ginormous in the att pic!

[WTEngel]

This kind of reminds me of Zoolander where David Duchovny lays the "most famous hand model ever."

Do you think there was an audition where people had to submit a hand resume and all...

[Hondamaker]

Available at 6pm---is tha pacific, central, or eastern time?

[WTEngel]

Whatever time zone the store you are at is in. I guess if you lived in Cali close to Nevada or something you could drive half an hour to get iPhone an hour earlier...however I guess you could also spend that half hour getting a life too...decisions, decisions. LOL :tounge:

[wjp09]

This kind of reminds me of Zoolander where David Duchovny lays the "most famous hand model ever."

Do you think there was an audition where people had to submit a hand resume and all...

Hand modeling :gasp:

[everythingiphone123]

Im downloading Safari. Might as well give it a try.

i downloaded it on my sony vaio and it is wicked fast!!!

[wjp09]

links please ^

[ColsTiger]

links please ^

Guys, when Steve said it SHIPS at 6PM on the 29th, I think he meant it LITERALLY. That would be about the time that Apple.com ships its daily orders for the day. I think the retail outlets will have regular business hours. He wouldn't have said SHIPPED if he meant they would go on sale then. You buy it (maybe sooner than we think) on Apple.com and then it will SHIP that day at 6PM. Phones sold in Apple stores and At&t stores will probably go on sale at the normal times.

[the PHDs]

ya dude,
thats GOTTA be it
SJ wouldnt do that to us....
its gotta be when the stores open